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mr. serhiy, this is fresh news, i literally read about the kherson region, kyivpost writes about the fact that the russians hold classes there, where they teach our teenagers how to write reports on their parents, on their acquaintances, how to identify extremists and terrorists in general, in order to then tell about these extremists, terrorists of the occupation. to the authorities, these are lessons, trainings with videos, like video instructions, this is how it all happens, what should we do with it, because these are some, these are some practices of the soviet union, the return, and it is clear that the children's camps, they are not strong , they, they, listen to the elders, lesya, i just stopped the soviet union, so normal the soviet union, and... i don't remember that in

the soviet union there was anything very similar to what is now in putin's russia, but really, there we had those stands where a soldier from the red army. besides, i still remember in those soviet schools, but there was no such level of morass, wait, but at the beginning of the soviet era, khrushchev was dismissed with the wording that he wanted to dissolve the academy of sciences, imagine what putin is being dismissed now , who, by the way, is retired because the russians are leaving. putin's russia broke down, it is far from what it was in the soviet union. mr. serhiy, what other practices of the russians do you encounter with regard to ukrainian children in the occupied territories? unfortunately, the children's psyche is really

plastic, and we can say so, evolutionarily, it is programmed to listen to adults and adults have a huge responsibility. what exactly do we invest in a child, what kind of environment do we create for him, and our organization has observed the entire children's town following practices in the occupied territories from the very beginning from the 14th year of the war, we worked in the conflict and often helped children who left even then, and we even saw the first manifestations of the influence of propaganda, re-education of the so -called, in essence, programming, and now on... of course, it is increasing, historically, yes , you correctly noticed that totalitarian systems sometimes strengthen, sometimes weaken, and in periods of strengthening it is very important for them to transform children to reduce them to one

primitive function, at the maximum, this in soviet history was embodied in the system of boarding schools, which was precisely what was called from.. . to simplify, to make the child's psyche flat, one-dimensional, you are a worker, you are a soldier, that's all, and we inherited this system, it is still with us, so we are naturally horrified by how the totalitarian system of russia transforms the psyche of adults, and especially children, but we must look more broadly, and totalitarian practices are present in everyone. totalitarians, sorry for the taftology of the countries of the world, and we also carry certain such false practices in our system, and we must focus on positive, european models, to which we aspire and want to enter the european union, and for this we must

not only to reform politically and militarily, but also to change our society as a whole, the heart of society is the family, the family must be supported, the family must be... and then the child in the family, in a natural, kind environment, will be formed creative, critical, intelligent, active, not the kind that a totalitarian system needs, yes, but the kind that needs a democratic society, a part of the european western model, where everything is about the individual, everything is about the rights of the individual, it starts with the rights of the child . by the way, this process is very interesting, that's why what... what is that we look at, for example, russian society, and i also remember the beginning of the 90s, when there was a lot of talk that russians, russian, russian, russian electoral mass, so to speak , it is more progressive than the ukrainian one, that

a communist reserve may be formed in ukraine, that all the authoritarian practices of the soviet ukrainian ssr may remain in ukraine, and to some extent, by the way, these fears have come true. one must be frank, but at the same time russia, where it seems there were many bright democratic leaders, where quite serious reforms were carried out, that gaidar and so on, who, by the way, also pointed out that russia had better economic indices of freedom for decades and attracted much more investments than ukraine, ikea came to them much, much earlier, for example, than to ukraine, and this too, by the way, is the result of the fact that we were less ready for this. not russia anymore, but i am just leading to the point that we see how russia has actually degraded over 30 years, where children have become worse than even their parents, here, in some reverse processes are taking place in ukraine, but they are also explained by the fact that in our country, it seems to me, children very often

repeat the path of their parents, i don’t know how it is there, but this story is now with blinken, because the problem is not that , that blinkin came and played, you know, blues guitar, no no. neil young, and the problem is probably that ukrainians know neil young better than nikolay baskov, and we continue to live in this paradigm, and to some extent children even now copy experience, tastes, which means... the main thing is to focus on values ​​of parents who do not always correspond to our foreign policy course, for which the country is currently fighting, how can adjustments be made here? a difficult, huge question, but here we have to trust human nature, and values ​​are formed from, again, from the nature of a person, from the nature of the family, give the family peace, give them parents, children... independently build their relationships and support them with the help

of community resources, there is no need to interfere and then a healthy personality with the right values, values ​​of mutual respect, values support the russian system was really intellectually ahead of us in the previous generation, and in my sector, psychology, pedagogy, social work, we learned a lot from moscow and st. petersburg specialists, and we were very surprised what happened to them now, where did these intellectuals and these teachers of ours go, when mass crimes against the rights of the child, against the rights of the family began, now, and here is precisely the problem that in them the natural environment of the family and intellectual communities has become actively and obsessively system intervene totalitarian states. which became more and more totalitarian, and the family was

unable to resist, and the natural association of professionals was unable to resist, and they suppressed their own values ​​in favor of totalitarian power. fortunately, we have these natural communities, families, specialist associations, public associations, it turned out. strong enough to resist, and we saw it during our maidans and smaller protests, that we preserved this - the natural environment of the people from the authoritarian machine of the state, were able to resist, and this is our strength, this is our weakness, because we are not like a robot machine, as in fascist systems or communist systems, we need a lot of time for arguments, for making decisions, but... for that , our decisions, which we later come to, are more natural, they give

more freedom, greater freedom of the individual, and with this we win, this is our strength, and we are oriented towards the european model, which is precisely built on human rights, i again and again i return to this question, what is necessary to build such a system that respects the child's personality, preserves his inviolability, protection and the child himself develops into a free, independent individual. will overcome any obstacles, in fact, of an adult, and this free personality seems to be the emphasis on this, to educate a personality, and not just a cog that will work effectively in the system. thank you very much for this conversation, serhii lukashov was with us the director of the children's town of ukraine. well, now a little bit about the vitamin, it's a call sign, a female perfumer from the special forces, ukrainian in the army in our 14th year, and she told khrystyna parubiy about her story. of course, i

want to reach the kremlin, like all soldiers. my call sign is vitaminka, i serve in the 47th brigade of mavor. in general, it started from the maidan. it is not possible otherwise. historically important events take place, such as this one, i may not take part in them. amazingly. it all gradually increased, increased, that is , first the maidan, then everything went like a crescendo, that is, everything increased, the tension increased, who took what job. that's what he did, and so much, as much as i wanted, there were no

responsibilities, so i took on the medical job, because i at least understood a little bit about it, at first i lived in tents, then i moved to the kmda, because there was a shower there, eh -er, separately, chotota sokil, then there were... there were maidan riots, it was interesting, it was dangerous, at that time i didn't want to kill, er, that is, i had... upbringing and that's all, i wanted exclusively to do some essentially humanitarian things there, in the army it changed a little, on the maidan i realized one of my peculiarities in some critical situations when someone is super, someone

is hysterical, someone else has some kind of reaction, i am very calm, i don't know what will happen after, but right at the critical moment, i am calm, i am not afraid of explosions, i can be useful why vaidar, because at that time it was the only good job at the ministry of defense, that is, i did not want to go to the ministry of internal affairs. well, it seems to me that after the maidan it is very logical. aidar is... this is the aidar of the 14th model - this is a typical cossack army, there was no army, this is what made me still very triggering, because what i call army people is what we have in common with the russian army, it confuses me a lot, well, in aydar, i was 22, 23, 24 years old at the time,

and it was just years, who lived without parents. the first ones, well, accordingly , a worldview was formed, certain life attitudes were broken, i understand that one must kill the enemy, but on the other hand, this is murder, as it were, well, i had an argument, that is today , i believe that it is even, well, how? preventive medicine, in fact. in the 15th year, i returned physically to civilian life. morally, this path was much harder and longer. i'm very sensitive to smells, er, and so is my mother. and

for some time i worked with perfumes, i really liked them, i know how to distinguish notes. and so on, i would really like to open a perfume shop, i was waiting for money from the sale of land, the business plan is ready, only i was waiting for money and we are starting, and the money was supposed to come on february 25, of course, it came much later and did not go for the plans i wanted, for the ammunition there and other important things. in principle, veterans are those people who were called sick people, you are waiting there, they want war, but we were the first who did not want war, but we knew that it would happen, so i was waiting for a full-scale one, i was in lutsk in my apartment, that is, the rocket attacks began, i exhaled, went

to sleep, well, they didn't let me sleep much, because there were still certain things to do, i was helping my two brothers. who was in melitopol, to leave, i.e. in telephone mode, after that i went to bed and i did not sleep so well for several years, then, when there was an opportunity, i left for kyiv, i waited until there was training for drones, received a certificate and a good day of special forces, then the woman mobilized in the first brigade of special forces, was a shooter, participated in combat missions in the east of ukraine. after returning to civilian life, many years of psychotherapy, i sculpted myself already without the influence of the war, that is, to become more gentle, more feminine, a person who loves this world, well, in donetsk region, i just sat down,

said, to dating, years of psychotherapy, here we go again. i'm comfortable if i'm alone the bitch that is being talked about on all the tv channels, on all the media, here i was there, what was different, the intensity, well, the intensity, as we had there, it was just the day before debaltsev, when the truce was announced, here until the moment at the beginning of the operations of that minsk-2, i heard statistics that at that time we had somewhere around 1,500 shells flying at our positions. one day, i was lying in the house, somewhere not far away, something heavy fell, that is, i was sleeping, i woke up from the fact that my bed

jumped together with the house and with me, that i was impressed, this is a phrase that was born in my head, but was voiced by my comrade, the commander, something this time is not fun, in may 2022, she got injured after treatment. and rehabilitation again returned to the war. at first it was in sumy oblast, then transferred to the 47th separate mechanized brigade. it's not the 14th year, it's not basically a classic intelligence job, because basically we're doing the job of uh everything we can. well, that is, why i feel comfortable now, because it is similar to aidar, in the sense that, in which unit, you were not, in fact, a universal soldier. you have to do what they tell you, it doesn't matter what position you hold, it doesn't matter what unit you are in,

in the summer we lived in a boarding house, it's like in the song that while the patron dog keeps the district, the boys and i keep the boarding, then it became very cold and uncomfortable, because uh... the landing was at a height, it was, this is the zaporizhzhia region, ugh, and there is water nearby, very, very, very, very many mice, mice gnawed everything, mice gnawed even bandages, hemostatic, uh, well, i was surprised when the bandage somewhere on, well, almost gnawed in half, how it affected me, i have a lot of illnesses, both physical and mental. i hate our neighbors as much as possible, and this is not the kind of hatred that is anger, that

is emotional, no, it is the maximum disgust, they were not responsible for the actions of the last century, nor in this one, nor in the previous one, that is, well, that not the first time when the 30's, 20's happen there, it was not the first time. when its neighbors committed genocide on our territory, for me victory is the disappearance of the russian federation as a state and the isolation of what from her will remain, they must bear responsibility for their actions, for their inaction, these are biological persons who must be isolated, i do not know how civilian life will come for me, well, we do not rule out the moment that i will

lie on the level of -2 m, or it will be some kind of mutilation, or it is already a direct experience of victory, well, not long ago the vitamin got an injury, now in donetsk region, now she is being treated in a hospital. join the ranks of the 100th separate mechanized brigade of the armed forces of ukraine, protect your own. the result of their work is ours with you security. they, the boys from volyn, proved that everyone can be a warrior, strong in spirit, they value the ability to stand side by side with their brothers and sisters, all the way to holy victory. those who pilot uavs understand in iit, prepare, treat, repair, wind kilometers of roads, fill piles of documents, significantly strengthen those who cover the enemy

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