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indeed, mr. svobozhenko is worried about the fact that there, in particular, we can continue to investigate there, for example, the issues of his business, taxes, income and other things, and therefore we do not have answers to this question, what actions can be taken, we will also be able to familiarize in a legal way, since i also have a status in this case. therapeutic, that is, i can familiarize myself with the materials of this case, see what work is being done. laris, we have seen that over the past five years, well, it will be may 20, may 20, five years since on the day of president zelenskyi's inauguration, we see how during this entire period the president selectively communicates with ukrainian journalists, or representatives of the president's office reprimand journalists there.
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because of these telegram blunders, they came to yuri nikolov's door, knocked, shouted that he was a dodger, well, that is , there were very, very many different events that testify to the fact that what is happening to the weaver is obvious, it is obviously being shaped by the current team, attitude towards journalists, that's why there are these cases in the state, as the weaver recalls 12 criminal proceedings, well, this is too much for one magazine. why do you think zelenskyi's team, which is currently focused on western aid, why does it not take into account that for our western partners this indicator of freedom of speech, attitude towards journalists, the civilized world looks at it in a completely different way, that is, such things are all unacceptable and are investigated much faster than in our situation. i agree with you, sergey, that the beginning of all this. there is
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the attitude of the authorities towards journalists, i.e. misunderstanding of the benefits of a free press, because press questions should not be rude, a journalist asks you a question, you can give an answer, thereby relieving the tension that exists in society, because usually journalists ask questions at press conferences, those that people discuss in the kitchen, so they may not be very... you like these questions, but that's why state institutions exist, that's why the state exists, to anticipate these questions, to understand that they will be asked and to give them a broad and detailed answer that will reassure society, that's what a free press is the tool through which the authorities establish contact with society, not with journalists, but with society, journalists are only intermediaries here. so, when the government does not
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understand the benefits of a free press and begins to snarl, then humiliate, then ignore it, obviously everyone, everyone else down the vertical, begins to behave in the same way with approval and with snobbery, and that is why i do not know, for example, now these threats, why this businessman, he is doing this, it is his own initiative, or he was told so, you can, but the point is let's remember, one of our topics today will be... the attack on mr. fico, but let's remember why fico's government collapsed last time, because of the murder of a journalist, because of a mafia criminal case, and because these are businessmen from their own initiatives, because they caught god forbid there, or something else, are beginning to threaten the free press, the authorities are threatened by this, and russia, in fact, can do just that, realizing that there are certain journalists in society who... are
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important for people , who are the voice of truth for the people, simply through their agency or through threats of such strange inadequacies, here he threatens himself, and the russian agency, for example, thinks to himself, oh, that’s interesting, this can now be stirred up and set against the authorities, against kyiv, for example, there and washington, all over the world , we, we understand that the government should protect journalists as it protects itself. because these are reputational losses, and losses of trust, and the threat of certain disturbances, uprisings, misunderstandings with society, what can, what can the enemy take advantage of, instead we see neglect, or a desire to flirt and make fun of loyal ones, and such, you know, neglecting, ignoring those you don't like. thank you, larisa, tetiana, how do european structures react, is there any certain reaction. we know that the state department
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of the united states of america in its report for the 23rd year indicated the problems that exist in ukraine with freedom, words with tv channels that were illegally turned off from t'. with a single telethon, for europeans, what is happening in ukraine with the press, during the war, this is a marker of whether they perceive it as, well, as a necessity, what is possible there some kind of regulation, military censorship, well, you can somehow consider that during the war it can be completely different, well, yes, official europe tends to criticize ukraine a little officially now during the war, you rightly noted that. but i would like to draw attention to another point, it is not only freedom of speech, not only freedom of speech is important for europe, but also, for example, if we analyze the publications in the european media in recent weeks and months regarding threats to ukrainian journalists, and these publications are , because actually journalists
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are famous, journalists are investigators, and that's it this is precisely the problem for the ukrainian authorities, because due to the persecution of ukrainian journalists, investigators, due to threats to them, the ukrainian authorities suffer reputational losses, in fact, because if the european media writes about threats to the same weaver, it mentions in parallel that he exposed criminal schemes, corruption schemes, including, for example, in the ministry of defense, in other ukrainian ministries, and thus we have more and more publications about the fact that the ukrainian government is corrupt. and that the ukrainian authorities actually, for example, the ministry of defense of ukraine itself, actually inflates the prices of some services, or there, for example, food products, and actually steals money, and this is a very big problem, because even if the european leaders do, they all exactly they tolerate all this, they are committed to
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their promises to help ukraine until the last moment as much as ukraine will need it, but european voters, people who read... poor people who hear these reports that ukrainian investigators, anti-corruption officers, persecuting them, for example, threatening them, these people change their point of view, change their attitude towards ukraine, and this results in the fact that they come to the elections and vote for radical movements that say, let's stop supporting ukraine, let's stop the war, sit for the negotiating table with putin and so on, that is , there is still a very big danger in this, because an information background is created, which demonstrates. that ukraine is still a corrupt state, and it is clear that there is a lack of communication or proper communication between politicians and journalists in ukraine create these stories about the fact that the government does not explain whether it is the president or the prime minister, and why, for example, oleksandr kubrakov was dismissed,
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they did not explain to politicians or society, they simply took and dismissed the vice-premier of the prime minister, the person who managed the infrastructure in ukraine, kamysh may become the new minister of infrastructure. and this is reported by novoye vremya with reference to sources in the government, the appointment will probably take place as early as next week. the publication also predicts two internal transformations government first, the ministry of strategy and industry will become part of the ministry of infrastructure. secondly, the functions of regional policy will be transferred to the ministry of economy. a relevant department is being created in yulia sverdenko's department. well, actually, it's larisa, it's all these events. and all these plans, they need one way or another some kind of explanation from the authorities, as in the last two years, especially as the authorities, in your opinion, have the authorities unlearned how to explain to society and journalists, because journalists still carry out
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fulfill their mission and social role for society your role, what do you say about this whole situation, another reorganization? there is something else, well, that is, they will tell us everything again in a single telethon, or, after all, in the current conditions, there are still more journalists than there are 10 people who met in private with the president of ukraine today, they still have to somehow communicate with government officials , with the president and the prime minister. well, you see, serhiy, there is, we generally have an institutional problem, we do not have, for example, such a practice of daily or weekly briefings key ministries. as it happens in the same united states, where john kirby comes out and tells something, for example, and this happens there almost every day, we really do not get explanations, these explanations, the essence of explanations, the essence of the communication of power by journalists, and the constant , is
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that it relieves the level of tension, the level of aggression, the level of mistrust in society, so that society does not fall into these treason-victory. did not become fodder for russian propagandists or some adventurers, adventure seekers and audiences such as for example the same sharia, in order for society to be at peace, it is necessary to talk to it, there is no other way to talk to society than through daily briefings, so in this case we really are, i agree with you, we do not understand why the resignation took place, why the reorganization took place, we have the impression that something is really being done under someone, we still have not understood why the good man was dismissed, but there is simply no explanation, no explanation at all... i don't think that the authorities have lost their minds, we started with the fact that i am you no one is to blame for anything, this is exactly
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what started all this, and all these press conferences at futkor, it was all such an imitation, it was all, it was true, but this is not a frank conversation with society, the authorities perceive journalists and journalism , the press as enemies, and not as a tool, precisely a tool of the government, because... the press is the fourth power, the fourth branch, as a tool that the government can use to communicate with society, because everything we talk about is corruption and collusion freedoms, all these are the suspicions that fall on the authorities, because the authorities have not failed institutions, certain institutional practices, open, transparent, understandable, because in fact, in any society, in any country, there are corrupt officials. when the press writes about them, society does not, for example, understand, get hysterical, that oh,
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america is corrupt in our country, or holland is corrupt, because we found a minister there who paid with a card, no, everyone perfectly understands that this is corruption, that this person is a corrupt person, and the state eliminates this corruption, fights it, it reacts and so on, everyone understands, everywhere there are attacks on journalists, everywhere there are for... for journalists, from mafia structures and so on, because there is an investigation, but no one blames the state for this phenomenon, everyone understands that the state is on the side of freedoms, a free press, and it will persecute those who who dares, everything is completely different here, so the problem, it seems to me, is much deeper than that of zelensky, not zelensky, it’s generally just such a lack of an institution, an attempt to constantly seize... to rule by one’s own hand, like god on put the soul down, instead of to build
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ukrainian structures, practices, and traditions that will advance us to the civilized world. thank you, larisa, tetiana, if the authorities asked you, the ukrainian authorities, to draw a brief conclusion and give a short piece of advice for the occasion. to be primarily predictable, because just as they do not give explanations to ukrainian journalists or ukrainian society, they do not always give explanations to european partners regarding some actions, and regarding, for example, the release of kubrakov, i want to remind such an unfortunate episode, that on the day of his release, the minister of economic development of germany came to him to hold a meeting. about the organization of a summit on the reconstruction of ukraine in berlin on june 11-12, and while
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she was traveling for almost a day to get to ukraine by car and train, during this time the minister was fired and it turned out that she had come to visit kyiv and had no one to meet with, and such moments should somehow be thought out in advance by the ukrainian authorities so that there would be no such incidents, and that is why predictability is needed. you need to explain yours actions, and of course, it is necessary to fight corruption. well, one more topic, colleagues, this is the attempt on fiyco, the prime minister of slovakia was shot, this week a writer was shot, and now, according to official sources in slovakia, he is in a rather serious condition, he has one more operation. did, although, in principle, the critical days,
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hours and days, as they say about fico's condition, they have already passed, at the same time, hungarian prime minister viktor orbán said that robert fico, who was injured, is still in a critical condition, let's hear what said orbán. we pray for of the prime minister and. we root for slovakia, we wish him a speedy recovery and return to work. robert fitzo is on the verge of life and death. we are waiting for elections, which are not only. will determine the members of the european parliament, but together with the elections in the usa can determine the course of war and peace in europe. in this situation, we would really need robert fico and the conciliatory position of slovakia. after the attempt on fitso, european politicians began to report threats to their address, serbia announced the arrest of a person who
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could pose a threat to security president vučić. the prime minister received threats. from poland, donald tusk, well, in short, everything that is happening now in eastern europe looks like part of some plan of the russian federation to destabilize the situation in europe, before that there were many statements about the fact that the kremlin is preparing to destabilize or commit acts terror on the territory of western europe or eastern europe. in this case, larisa, is it possible to assume that everything we see now and the unfolding of all these events, including sfitso, despite the fact that he is a pro-russian politician, despite the fact that there is sympathy for him, putin has publicly expressed that, that the russian special services are not trying to destabilize eastern europe so that
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there will be instability there too, and this eastern europe also thought that anyone.. . who will make various statements there or towards ukraine, or somehow curtsy towards russia, anyone can become a target for some 71-year-old writer, who is there, i don't know how he shot, to be honest, i really it's hard to imagine that this person shot, well shot, the question of why only, well, i agree with you that this is why he shot. and whether he is an agent, whether he was associated with some pro-russian organizations banned there, all this is clear, but in fact we have to say that there is one event, and this event should be investigated by the investigation, but there is something that unfolds after the events the information company, and this information company, it is
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very similar to the arson of reystag, because what orbán is talking about, the elections. trump in the united states, i'm like that too, i love russia, i want to talk to putin, here's the facts, here you see, that is in principle, they begin to appeal to the voter, to the common man, that there is some kind of position, there are some doves of peace who suffer some kind of wrong from them from the bad war parties there, this is how they show it, and we understand that they do it. right-wing politicians, who in their essence have never been peace-loving, and for whom the issues of freedom, human rights and everything else are so secondary to orban, that is why in this case i am very worried that the elections in united states, i would not be surprised if trump declares threats and
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dangers in his life, because as we know, we remember these... stories, that all attempts are present or imagined, that they are very good in terms of the electoral plan, an opportunity to turn. and now, by the way, there are elections to the european parliament, where we see that in fact, the right, the right can increase the number of their votes. thank you, larisa, and what does tatiana say in european structures about this whole story? because well, it is clear that fitzo is a prominent figure, he made a lot of statements with about how peace should come in ukraine, in particular, and he was a supporter of the fact that he is a supporter of the fact that ukraine should negotiate with russia, these are very strange statements from the slovak prime minister, as well as from the hungarian one, but also
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slovakia , and hungary obviously depends one way or another on russia, on russian gas, on russian business. or any mercantile interests, what is said in europe about this attempt and who is hinted at in this situation? well, actually, in the statements of european politicians regarding the attempt on the fizo, the most the word used was shock, because indeed european politicians were shocked that in the 21st century a political figure was being assassinated while she was meeting with the voters, and of course everyone ... started trying this situation on themselves, and there is growing talk that in fact there is a polarization of the political process in the european union and... it is not only about eastern europe, but also about central and western europe, because in virtually every state there is, as you rightly pointed out, a strong, extreme right-wing structure that
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rushes to power and indeed in the elections to the european parliament there will be significantly more winners from the far-right camp in almost again in every state, and for the same orban and fitz. also already accused some left-wing, as he said today forces , that they wanted to destroy the fizo, the fizo who stands for peace, that's exactly what we were talking about just now, that is, russia is really interested in making europe uneasy, that there would be such a polarization of opinions and aggression in europe, and unfortunately it still has it turns out, and elections to the european parliament. may bring us many unpleasant surprises, because the same fico, even before the assassination attempt on him, could double the number of european deputies who will be elected from
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his party, and now he may have an even better result, because his supporters will be even more of him support. that is, you believe that all the events that are happening now in slovakia are somehow related to internal european politics, perhaps, which it wants to influence. putin yes, this is a general trend, and this is actually what putin is trying to achieve and what russian propagandists are inciting, in order to oppose one part, each state of europe, to another part, i.e. pro-ukrainian, anti-ukrainian, for war, not as if, yes, for peace, for negotiations against, counter-negotiations, this is how the russians really work in the eu. well, again, the question is how ukrainians work. on the ground there is, this is also a question, larisa, we know that the deputies of the verkhovna rada in one way or another are limited in moving around the world, pro-government
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deputies can safely work with european structures, and in general with oceanic structures, and representatives of the homeland, european solidarity and voice, no, again, we will lose again in this situation. so obvious, because i even understand the reasons why they are limited, well, because they are not under control, and so they will go, say something to themselves, and not to the dungeons, you see, and even the question is not that they are bad dungeons, for example, the provisional government sent its deputies, gave them theses, those they go around and spread the word, and if the homeland or european solidarity or the vote goes, you won't put a stun gun on these deputies, and this... it's fear of something that i don't control. actually, it's a lot of infantilism because, you know, uh, safety is where there's total control, and it's not,
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where there's total control, it's just very dangerous, because all the sociological theories point out that why authoritarian countries lose to democracies, because there is total control, and accordingly the center cannot control everything, and from here ... this just an effort, i mean, these deputies are not released because it is impossible to control them, on the other hand, their very presence abroad, where they say something, listen to them, agree with something, disagree with it, but the very realization that the opposition at the same level as the government, he goes and defends the interests of the country, talks to someone, because the opposition parties are members of certain unions. there are certain lobbies there, the same homeland, well, yulia tymoshenko was the prime minister, and petro poroshenko was the president, respectively, they have their own connections, informal, that is, it
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is useful, but it is not controlled, and therefore the authorities need, well, our team, the president and the people who are his five effective managers, they finally have to understand that in the modern world the question of power, strength is not a question of control, it is a question of... influence, they do not influence, they have never learned to influence, adjust, be in a team, work together with the same western structures, look for allies, that is, be in partnerships , you and i are equal, that's them have to learn thank you, larisa, thank you tetiana for participating in the program, larisa voloshina, tetiana vysotska were guests of today's journalism club. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel and we want to present to you the results of the survey, the television survey that we conducted today, whether the uocp is under threat.
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everything else, i think. this is a video about how hail works from the territory of the belgorod region, well, it works, i must say, it is right there from the road, i hope they will show us where the civilians are standing, you can see the cars, and here it is moving somewhere in the direction of kharkiv, most likely, uh, that is, on a normal road where civilians drive people, and you know that later, when the answer comes to this... hailstorm, the russians will shout: "oh, they hit the civilians, their arms, hands, legs flew somewhere." and all this will be a lie as always, just as it is an absolute lie now, when the russians are trying to tell that they are attacking kharkiv because belgorod is being shelled there. thus, belhorod was not shelled until february 22.

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