on the use of ukrainian, ukrainian weapons, which are provided by the united states of america as part of military aid, the spokeswoman of the us department of defense, sabrina singh, announced this at a briefing. let's hear what she said. we have not changed our position, we believe that the equipment, the opportunities that we provide to ukraine, and that are provided by other countries, should be used to give back. ukrainian sovereign territory, we asked for this publicly, we would like to emphasize that the weapons that are provided within the limits of contact group on the defense of ukraine is intended for use on the battlefield. in his conversations with minister umyerov, the state secretary also spoke about the fact that these opportunities can best be used on the territory of ukraine. mr. valentin, is it possible to return the sovereign territory of ukraine without hitting the territory of the russian federation? the response to

this is given by the armed forces of ukraine almost every night and every day, attacking and destroying, that's right, enemy objects on enemy territory, and you are objects that directly relate to of russian aggression against us, directly support or are military objects. moreover, these are no secrets, we are talking with american partners, i, as a member of the parliament, mr. blinkin's delegation, was the secretary of state in kyiv. i met with this delegation, today, the remaining people, i also worked with them with this delegation, we further explain to them that it is extremely important for us to get and destroy the carriers of russian terrorist missiles, such as tu-95, mig, 31 and so on further, the enemy and the aggressor hides them on their territory at a great distance from of the armed forces of ukraine, but this is exactly the kind of missile terrorism that is the biggest cause of... the biggest cause of death,

by the way, of peaceful ukrainian civilians, for some reason no one is talking about them, but we are talking and convincing our american partners that we need long-range weapons not just as, but as a means of destroying terrorist planes, terrorist missiles, shahed and so on, but at those airfields of the base from where they take off and from where the same missile terrorism begins, so this is the first argument, secondly, i am professional. i can explain to our tv viewers why the american side does not yet give a possible permission to use the latest weapons, such as atakams and others, outside the borders of ukraine, and because these missiles and their guidance depends on american a-technique b- experts, in our opinion , this is the third argument, precisely based on the results of the visit of us secretary of state blinken. agreed

and we are creating a fund for an additional 2 billion dollars, and from this fund will be invested and supported ukrainian developments and ukrainian production is just for long-range weapons, there was not enough american investment, now in the near future, as soon as they leave, i think that our own production, our own missiles, this is the first thing that the armed forces will start with, and we sincerely want to distance them.. . so that our missiles with a range of 700 km will again be at the disposal of our armed forces as soon as possible. this is such an important step. and the last thing, f-16 fighters are universal, they will really appear in the ukrainian sky in the near future, and that is if the airfields are not destroyed the enemy will allow, at least in the sky, the ukrainian sky to more effectively repel terrorist attacks with missiles, rockets and even aircraft. these guided bombs,

from which the ukrainian kharkivs are currently suffering the most. does president zelenskyy disagree with ukraine's ban on using western weapons to attack russia? president zelenskyy stated this during a meeting with journalists. i will quote the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine. i do not believe that there should be any bans, because this is not about the offensive of the ukrainian army from the use of western weapons on the territory of russia is protection, it is the same as preventive sanctions. which we all talked about before the full-scale invasion, this is the same, this is a warning - said zelensky. mr. valentin, what are the americans afraid of if their weapons are used on the territory of russia? that is, they are afraid that there will be a response with a nuclear strike on the territory of the united states of america? no, the answers i heard and hear from high-ranking american officials and experts.

military and even journalists' decisions the administration of the white house of the united states, the administration of president biden, is such that it is not allowed to be involved in... the war against ukraine, which is being waged by russia, to involve additional forces and to remove those restrictions that the russian aggressor can use to his advantage, well, more specifically, supply and the use of long-range missiles already on russian territory, the american administration clearly believes that it will give russia the opportunity to ask for, and most importantly receive, more long-range missiles, either from china, or from iran, or from that this is actually the approach of the american administration, but i emphasize once again that we know how to gradually lift this ban, and it is lifted by the steps that i have already announced: the creation of a fund to finance the ukrainian defense industry, the creation of

long-range weapons systems by ours in ukraine , our own and their application, but mr. valentin, well... the americans already have much more opportunities to help ukraine and provide more military aid, doesn't it look like the united states of america is giving ukraine belatedly as much as it is necessary for ukraine not to lose, but also not to win. i do not share these sentiments, the only thing i admit is that the delay in approving the defense package in the us congress is just right. created those gaps from which our defense, our armed forces really suffer, that is , there was a certain shortage and it is possible of certain types of weapons, but the artillery shells are gone and there are more of them for the armed forces, and this will continue, by the way, to spread and

accelerate, further missiles for heimers of these systems of serious salvo fire which are called, by the way, the finger of god, this means that if you already got there... hymers, then there is no enemy left there, the american side is also supplying missiles to hymers now, and with a range of 80 km, and we are all experts convinced that these are the hymers with such missiles are now urgently needed in the kharkiv direction in order to eliminate even those 5-6 km that the enemy crossed the russian-ukrainian border into the gray zone, i think that this is temporary, as soon as our weapons ... forces are received such systems for heimers, such missiles will be destroyed and these groups that entered even the kharkiv region, well, i already mentioned the third atacoms, these are ballistic army missiles from the united states of america, and i will also mention that within the same approved package there will be an additional

patriot system and maybe not one, but definitely with american ones as partners we say, okay, one + one +2 +3, but it must be constant. addition and constant supply of what is produced, by the way, by the only manufacturer, it is in the united states of america, it is the patriot air defense system. kharkiv now must be defended, and this is the absolutely correct position of the bet and the supreme commander-in-chief, and the american partners understand this. further, from lviv to odesa, there is not just a necessity, an extreme necessity for us, which can be obtained as soon as possible by additional air defense systems. christopher cavoli, the supreme commander of nato's combined forces in europe, says that since the start of the full-scale invasion, the russians have improved their logistics, but the quality of their troops has deteriorated, so they are not currently capable of a large-scale breakthrough, and

let's actually listen to what christopher cavoli himself said. the russians do not have the required number of people. for a strategic breakthrough, we don't believe it, moreover, they don't have the skills and capabilities to do it, to operate on the scale necessary to exploit any kind of breakthrough, to gain a strategic advantage. mr. valentine, do you agree with this opinion? yes, our nato partners, general, general cavoli, knows what he is talking about, the only thing, together with the nato partners, is in addition to what i talked about. in relation to the american ones partners, with nato partners, we are working to ensure that, first of all , joint training, training of our military personnel, especially those who are being mobilized and trained for the armed forces of ukraine, and on the territory of ukraine, will begin,

first of all, it is faster, secondly, it is cheaper and thirdly, it is more effective for us, for the needs of the armed forces of ukraine, and secondly, we are seriously working to ensure that, after all, joint patrols of the ukrainian sky at least on the western border of ukraine, joint, joint is possible energy and civil protection objects along the western border of ukraine. from this, we believe and insist that it is possible and necessary to start joint efforts between ukraine and nato, but not exclusively in the form of conferences or meetings or conversations, already in specific joint combat operations, anti-aircraft operations, joint, and in the adjacent territories of ukraine, and yet everything related to the ukrainian sky. yes, as we understand it, i mean ukraine and myself, including... everything will start precisely with the first use of the f-16, the first two or three

squadrons and their strengthening, possible equipment, possible radars and not only nato member countries, our partners. and do you know, mr. valentin, when the first f-16 aircraft will appear in the sky of ukraine? it is known, but not for the enemy, so we do not voice it on the air, but i can tell you that ukrainians will hear and see. then it is already clear that no one will hide this date. the new york times writes that ukraine has allegedly asked its nato partners to help train 150,000 recruits closer to the front line for faster deployment. the united states of america said no, but the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff believes that the deployment of nato trainers seems inevitable. was there a conversation with the americans who were with blinkin. in kyiv about the need to deploy these

instructors from nato and as americans in a live conversation, what do they say? firstly, nato member states, great britain, poland, lithuania, estonia and others, even up to spain, have previously trained the ukrainian military, especially air defense, and continue training, by the way, of pilots, and romania should not be forgotten, and yes, among these member countries. nato, as i called them, there are already those countries that have decided and agreed that they can send their instructors, they call them trainers, but military instructors for the training of special units, well , i mean sappers, special forces, air defense, special forces operations, i.e., such specialties for de nativ military and vnativ teachers and trainers have a greater higher phage, need our weapons. strength and it is precisely such instructors that we want, wants the general staff of ukraine is on our territory,

in our training centers, for our defenders, and i confirm that the answer is yes, from nato partners. the united states of america, by the way, you mentioned, in fact, for the united states of america and did not formulate such a request: ukraine, we understand very well how far the united states of america is, and its, even military bases, those in europe, there limited staff, so we work directly with those nato member countries such as the uk and others who have sufficient instructors, personnel in order to train our defenders on the territory of ukraine. mr. valentin, obviously, the future development of events on the russian-ukrainian front also depends on today's meeting between the two leaders of china and the russian federation, putin arrived in xijin pin, the two-day visit to... putin's country is coming to an end, according to the statements that would have already been made and according to the

rhetoric voiced by both putin and xijin pin. which means that china will continue to trade some preferences in the west in exchange for the fact that beijing will influence moscow's policy, that is, how do you assess this visit and the prospects of china joining the civilized part of the world? well, let's go. let's say in fact that what happened is not that russian propaganda is rebroadcasting or lying, but that in fact, russian propaganda received an entry from china, as is the russian leader, because you remember, you are a professional journalist, sergey, let's also remind the tv viewers, how it seems , one of putin's advisers even before his arrival in china already stated that no, china will not go to any peace conference, we are in charge here, almost they don't rule china, they came and what they got in the face, because china... that we will decide ourselves, including regarding participation in a peace conference in switzerland based on

the ukrainian peace formula. second, xi jinping, the leader of china, officially came out and confirmed that china adheres to and will adhere to and calls for other un principles and the united nations charter on the territorial integrity and sovereignty of un member states. i mean and think, first of all, like each of us, about ukraine. and we are the founder of the un, which is precisely what we demand the ukrainian peace formula of complete withdrawal and restoration of our borders, withdrawal means the troops of the aggressor, as well as many other things that were left behind closed doors, but i think that russian propaganda and putin himself are happy that it is good that even though behind closed doors, therefore, if everyone saw what china actually answered and how leader xi really treats putin, then i think that the collapse would be complete, but there is a very important fact that really for putin, china

remains the only window of hope, opportunities , as and trade, and really... the kremlin regime is taking unprecedented steps regarding the economy, the return of land, energy resources for almost nothing to china, for the sake of at least some support, for the sake of at least some image that russia has not become an outcast, in my opinion and my conclusion , russia is becoming an international outcast, not even any support, it is the support of china that the russian leader did not receive, and this is true. i think very serious changes, god forbid, it's just that these changes that have started now in beijing, in china, that they will still be implemented in june in switzerland and then the international community, together with the global country, china, nevertheless moved completely to support ukraine and to condemn

russian aggression. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation, this was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine. and the former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, i want to remind you that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms. please subscribe to our pages as well take part in our survey today. today we ask you about whether the uoc mp threatens the national security of ukraine. the question is serious enough, the question is debatable, but it is important for us to know your opinion. if you watch us on. on youtube, please vote yes, no, or leave your opinion about the existence of the uoc imp in ukraine, its future existence. if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and call. if you believe that the pcmp will threaten the national security of ukraine. 0800 2111-381, no 0800 211-382. all calls

to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. yes. we are in touch with oleksiy hetman, military analyst, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. mr. major, i welcome you and i am glad to see you on our air. i congratulate you. mr. major, let's start our conversation with the situation in kharkiv oblast. the defense forces managed to stabilize the situation with the advance of russian troops in the north of the kharkiv region, and the enemy was able to advance no more than 10 km deep into ukraine, he said. said volodymyr zelenskyi during today's press conference, in addition, he says that the russians in the kharkiv region were able to reach only the first of the three lines of defense, i will quote mr. zelenskyi. the first line is not a border, it is impossible to build there, because due to the appropriate weapons used by the russians, our people died, they are approximately there now

, this is the first line that was built during the war under constant fire by our military. the first and the second. the line is built by the military, the third line is built by local authorities, it is the most powerful, not because it is better than the military, but simply because it is farther from weapons, from shells, from shelling. mr. major, how do you assess the current situation in kharkiv oblast, how much did the enemy accomplish, did what he wanted to do and did he succeed in doing it, well, you know, the fact is that when we look at the map, there when we analyze the statements of, for example, the president, by the way, he said quite the right things, he can be used here to be supported by everyone, i am sure that he had advisers who were aware of the matter, and what he told is in accordance with military regulations, the first, second line, third line is the most powerful and so on, that is, here and there it was normal to say, it's good

that you conducted it, in relation to, and then the military begins, as they say , the nuance. which, looking at the map, there are many kilometers wide or deep or not many, and this is not something that people are not told about, and there are strange analyzes sometimes you hear, let's say these two areas that they created in kharkiv oblast are two bridgeheads they are wide and deep up to 10 km, and yes, these two are for nothing, if you measure them lengthwise, they will be approximately 13-15 km each, this is exactly the front along which it is advancing. brigade, well, there is a certain section of the front, 3 km there, 3-5 km there is a battalion, well, well, and so on, that is, there are certain regulations. and they are used militarily not because they like the regulations, because that is how they are calculated, as they say, statutes written in blood, especially combat statutes, regardless of

which army is conducting hostilities, the russians have many outdated regulations there, but here are these actions, they are written in their battle statutes and they are similar to other battle statutes, because the tactics of warfare in the field are infantry, they have not changed, almost not, the essence has changed since the napoleonic times... and maybe even earlier, the means by which it can be to hit the enemy, and to me this is all that provides people to perform these tasks, and the logic is the same: a certain front line, a certain number of people on this front line must hold the defense, a certain number of people must advance, as it should, as i should be built fortifications, they are complicated, before it was usually rare, now it is a little more difficult, especially... the line there should be multi-story, two-story dugouts, there should be capsules for storing the personnel of massed shelling, there should be communication and passages between

the first, second and the second and third line, the so-called conductive connection of the so-called palovka must be installed behind, because they cannot be silenced by raps, well, it can break from an explosion, but here , even as in the second world, you have to go and look for its rifts. to connect, because guys, you can turn off wireless wired communication, here is communication, here you need wired, and so on, that is, there are many nuances, the fact that they now have these two sections 13-15 km wider, this is just according to the standards, it should be so the brigade is advancing, this is roughly its section of the front, there is information that they want to expand it to 70 km, the syrian commander said that they are trying to expand it, this is not a very good sign. because they wouldn't expand it just like that, just 70 km is a section, well, up to 100 km, 50, 60, 70, it should start already there, this is the length of the front, the length of the front along which

the division should advance, most likely this 18th division, which is located there, they used again according to the prescribed combat rules, according to the combat statutes, 10-15% of the personnel, other main the forces were preserved and... the extended section of the front means that this division will try to advance, whether they succeed or fail to advance to the second or third line, well , this will show how well they are built and how many of our troops should be there, because on such a section of the front , well, let's do this, for example battalion, but it has to maintain defense there 3-5 km, well, for example, and up to 2 km deep, well, that is , there are certain standards, that is, we don't always say reserve there. attract something else to each section of the land at a certain distance there are certain standards, how many mines should be laid, how many guns should be

standing, how many heavy equipment should be there, how many people should be there, how many automatic weapons should be, how many should be machine guns, mortars and so on, that is, no one sits around and invents all this, it is all written down in combat statutes, in general, in the statutes of armed forces forces, and this is the tactic when it is being built. it is based on regulatory documents and according to them, well, there are many nuances, you can change some of the cunning tactics there, but you can add it, do better, that is, mr. major, there is a military science that, in principle, gives answers to all questions, you can to go deeper, just to tell how where the machine gun should stand, where the snipers should stand on the defensive, and so on, that is, it is written down, it is not someone who sits and invents, that is why people who are far from military affairs are starting to get very annoying... analyze, draw some arrows on the map, where to move there, or someone starts saying, let's do it, write me a war plan, that is, it's a head disease that is already

incurable and so on, that is, it's all prescribed and everything, everything is calculated, sometimes it happens, that it is necessary to obtain a larger, wider section of the front with a smaller number, we have seen this many times, well, this is where the tactical element comes into play. tactics are those that allow you to have a certain area less, well , you have to maneuver there, you have to counterattack there, you have to do active defense there, i.e. this everything is added, i just want, what is it for, well, i’m almost telling you in detail, there are basic rules of warfare, basic in the united states, in great britain, in ukraine, in the russian federation, basic, you can improve, but you cannot replace the basic . you see, you can’t put a battalion on a 100-km section so that it conducts combat operations, it will simply be demolished and so on, it is impossible to make

fortifications without the fact that there is a rocket road beyond the third line, along which you can quickly move, and that between the first, second, and third lines were the moves you can take to move, it is impossible without this, well , that is, you can try to improve, but you first do what needs to be done, and then add to it so that it is possible to get better, it is possible to do, and when instead of doing the way it should be, some kind of a person who thinks that he knows everything and understands everything perfectly, begins to tell them with a cart what they need to do. well, it causes, you know, no longer people, because they are already furious, furious there grabs at the enemy, calls out, honestly, to me guys, a story that causes apathy, because come cambrikh there or comrades, listen, we were here, but we listened, well, it’s the same there, guys, yes, let them tell, we know what to do with us, yes, the dugout is here, the machine gun nest is here, snipers are there, everything is there, we are holding defense, we are at war, and let them say what they want,

well, you can’t tear up social relations, information that goes to society, so that it goes sometimes simply in the opposite direction, in general, they are completely ignorant of what they know and what they do military on the battlefield, well, it can't make much difference if a person he doesn't understand, well, let him say in general terms, it's also not bad, it's such a strategic, political, economic guarantee, well, when you start telling the league how to fight, how to build defenses, how where someone should be, how to mine or not to mine. military men who studied for this, who passed the tests when they were young men, as they say, young men, and so on, who have been doing it for 15-20 years, and people who give advice want to ask, how do you know this person wants for, yes, i understand that there are a lot of questions, i'm sorry, that's simple, well, that’s it, well, i’m talking with my brothers, well , listen, people, well, at first they were angry, then they laughed, and now i’m just giving apathy some great advice, especially

ironing... when people gather and start drawing some arrows on the map, to whom it is clear, yes, yes, mr. major, british intelligence, as the guardian writes, warned kiev about the preparation of the offensive of the russian federation in the kharkiv region, but unprepared defense lines, the british write, delays in supplies prevented it from stopping weapons, also a lack of manpower, to quote what the british publication writes, it is suicidal for ukraine to have... its main line of defense on the border, where the russians can hit it with artillery and guided air bombs, and the ukrainians, due to american restrictions, do not have available weapons, such as of the hymers salvo fire system to retaliate, the paper quoted military analyst george baros as explaining why russian forces were able to mass safely across the border. mr. major, here is what the british write, what i said today putin, that we are not going

to capture at all... kharkiv, this is not our goal. putin always lies, so we don't even take into account what he says. he went, and in the 22nd year he wanted to capture kharkiv, they entered kharkiv, and in the 24th he did not want to capture kharkiv, well, this is just a lie of the highest kind. in your opinion, the russians want to create a so -called sanitary zone in the kharkiv region, as putin says, well, if he says this about this... sanitary zone, then we can say, and we want a sanitary zone only on that side, belgorod, kursk region, let's make such a sanitary zone as well, and we will strive for this sanitary zone, what the russians want, you know, we constantly listen to what they say, try to analyze, come on they will sort it out between themselves, lovrov and putin, lovrov says that we want to create a sanitary zone there for more than 100 km, and kharkiv falls, and sumy falls into this sanitary zone, putin says that

they... do not want to invade kharkiv, well and we begin to analyze: lying or not lying, what is the difference, whether he is lying or not, we see what is happening, we see the preparatory actions that this group, which is located to the north of kharkiv, is taking now, that they are trying to capture kharkiv, well , of course, one division has such a number of people can't do it, it takes a lot, it's an army, no less, even an army won't be able to do it better, it's necessary to involve two or three armies there, then... you can try, theoretically try to do it, as of today, i'm sure that they just want to get as close as possible to kharkov in order to have it already under fire artillery control, so that it would be possible to shoot the self-propelled guns there, well, all the guns they have, everything there is, so that not only could you use e-missiles and glide bombs, which we shoot at will.