nothing threatens life, said the minister of the interior, but the question remains, why did it happen, that is the first question, and the second is how the country will develop further, and i think that now many people in slovakia are thinking about what can be done to prevent confrontation, which can lead to some civil, if not skirmishes, then conflicts, at least that can put. endanger the common civil life immediately after the assassination attempt immediately after the assassination attempt on prime minister fitz and the current president of slovakia mrs. chapotova and the new the head of state, mr. piligrini, they held a joint meeting among themselves, they made a joint statement related to the fact that it is necessary to unite in society, which is necessary so that there is no discord in... it is clear that this

attracted attention, because in essence, it was the first case of the union of people from two hostile parties or camps, peter pelligrini represented the ruling coalition, why is she considered an apologist for liberal democratic forces, this appeal was undoubtedly heard by society, but one of the parties seems to be the most important the party, robert fizo's death party, said it was not ready for such a meeting. it seems to me that this is connected first with the fact that robert fitze is in the hospital, and there may be some considerations about his speedy recovery.

that he does not want this party to take him first, it seems to me that this is connected with the fact that he participated in such a meeting, because the politicians of this party play such a game, pointing fingers at those who are visible, of course, the liberal opposition, as they actually call it,

i consider myself an opponent of this party, but i am that this is not a reasonable position, i understand that, i think it would be better if they took part in such a meeting of all parties, it would be a signal to all citizens, because the situation, i would say, is very extraordinary, but people are worried about how it will continue, although outwardly everything is working normally the state. if we talk about the participant of this attempt, the person who was going to kill, robert fitz, it can be considered that this person is simply a victim of such an atmosphere in society, it happens that there is no atmosphere, but just people gently saying no very much in control of their actions. you are correct that the atmosphere. indeed, it is an atmosphere

of polarization, but polarization did not appear in recent weeks, months or years, this polarization began from the very beginning of the slovak republic as an independent state, our party system is polarized, the confrontation is very powerful, and of course this is a known fact, that in such an atmosphere people are not very balanced mentally, with some personal problems, probably they become radicalized and try their... about how the country should develop, this is how to find out, in general, i really liked the comment of one of our analysts, tomasz nacer, that he said that this man is dr. jack and mr. hight. why? because he was known in narrow circles, he lived in löwwitzen, a small town, he was formally a member of the writers' union, he is already... retired for 71 years, and as they say, he

showed himself by the fact that he participated in measures of various social and political forces. in 2016 , he performed at... slovak hunters chi volunteers, and highly praised them. this organization, in addition to being radical-nationalist, was also known for being very loyal to russia, they spread pan-slavic ideology, spread russian narratives, and as a writer, he wrote a book. some essays devoted to the problems of the roma national peak, the minority, i'm sorry, and this book contains such distinct russian prejudices against the roma.

in 2018, he already spoke at protest rallies against the murder of jan kutsep, these events were organized by the civil society. and 2018 it was last year, but recently he took part in one of the big rallies in bratislava, judging by the photos, and he joined the people who protested against the government, i think that it is very difficult to define him ideologically, who he is, unknown, his neighbors say that he... always tried to be in the center of attention, to be first. it seems to me that this man has suffered from some such lack of recognition, and it is very unfortunate and unfortunate for robert fitz and all the countries and in fact he is

a man with such a biography that can to use a representative of any political force, someone can say: he was shot by a left-wing liberal, that's what the opposition does, someone can say he's ultra-right. it was a person from the electorate of fize who shot at him, so in fact, this is such an amazing story. you know, it is interesting that at the first moment, when it was not known who he was, what kind of person he was, then people from the government coalition made a statement when they began to accuse the opposition, that he is your liberal, some kind of leftist, etc. later it turned out that he participated in those events right-wing extremist, pro-russian forces. and indeed, if we take a pro-russian position, then he was closer, if we were to look at it from the current point of view, to robert fiitzo, because

robert fiitz is not a pro-western politician, he is a pro-russian politician, so it would be strange that such a person, such a man with such figure, suddenly made up my mind... fortunately, i think that precisely thanks to those publications and what journalists found in the archives, there will now be no such dispute as to who is directly to blame, this is all in the essence of the matter expressed by the ruling party coalitions, they are trying to convince their supporters... behind all this is the politics of the opposition parties, and also the media, the media, the so- called, the mass media, if you give me a minute and a half, i want to say that they blame the media mainstream, the so- called liberal know that they allegedly

increased the level of hatred in society, confrontation, etc., but in reality there is more in slovakia. the other or the second part of public society are oppositional conspiratorial platforms, i will not even name them, all of them as one pro-russian and pro-government, that is , they were the ones who increased the level of hatred, spread some fake news, fake information, some conspiracy, it was people from these small, but numerous, generally fighting online platforms, mostly who spoke on the side of the government, pro-government parties , helped them make such verbal attacks

on hryhoriy masezhnikov, political scientist, head of the institute of public relations in bratislava, we talked about the situation surrounding the assassination attempt on slovak prime minister robert fitz, now we are literally for a few minutes. we will take a break, but stay with us, there are still many interesting conversations ahead. tired of heavy and heavy saws, then strong saws from rozpak tv are just for you, they will easily cut trees and shrubs, they are convenient to use for carpentry work, it is an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 999 . choose a basic model or a model with a telescopic handle and order now, free shipping is available. check with consultants. cut branches, cut a beam, chop firewood, you will do all this. in one movement with strong forks, just look how quickly they handle even thick branches. strong forks

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of ukraine and our armed forces against russian aggression, that is, this is the budget of the armed forces of ukraine, and from how they work enterprises, entrepreneurs, how successful, how much they actually develop business, how much they are able to pay more taxes to the state budget, generate more jobs, depends on how much our armed forces have today and the ability to buy military equipment, to buy weapons, to buy all the consumables to defend, to counterattack and then to hold and liberate our territories, god forbid that this happens, so the fact that the council started working today... it is very good, but forgive me, that as in the classics, when we taught and studied at school, it was somehow to my grandfather's village, that is , to my grandfather's village, today the council has neither an address, nor a telephone, nor a secretary, we wanted to send there from some western enterprises that are investors in letters to ukraine to this council, what did you ask them about, you even talked to the members of this council who

were elected and appointed in accordance with the president's decree, but in the end they all admitted that they do not have an address, they do not have a building, they do not have a secretary, they do not have telephones, and this and the series that we will show something very well somewhere there, well on tv, on tv, but in reality we, what this council can do, what it has done and in general what are the results, the answer is simple, there are no results, nothing has been done, legislative initiatives, if they were, then they are not adopted by the parliament, although we understand that when the parliament needs it, it simply stamps laws, and today we are the last laws. as for mobilization, the rest we see this, that is, unfortunately, the result is zero. and tell me, in principle, how easy is it to preserve the investment attractiveness of ukraine in conditions when we do not have a clear understanding of the terms and conditions of the end of the war? vitaly, it is impossible to do at all, because if there are no deadlines,

there is no understanding of when it will end, under what conditions to maintain any investor confidence. it is impossible to maintain any understanding that it is necessary to support jobs, to invest. today you can only do one thing, those who already today have large investments, huge, millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions, billions of dollars of investments in ukraine, today they are forced by their economic actions to protect their investments, i.e. continue to invest, finish projects, try to preserve these investments, try to somehow protect them, and therefore these are those investments. which today the only ones who can somehow continue work in the ukrainian economy, continue work in the economic space, and it is precisely those investors, precisely these subjects and objects of economic activity, economic activity in ukraine that must be supported and helped with all the fibers of the soul , because in this situation they should

feel that the state thinks about them, the government understands them, and thanks to this they get more jobs and pay taxes. to the local state budget, generate gross domestic product and do all that, about as i said at the beginning, taxes are paid to local budgets so that doctors and teachers receive salaries, so that housing, housing and communal services in the cities and towns of our country are supported, the most important thing is that the money goes to the state budget, so that after that we financed all the expenses of the armed forces of ukraine, well, the expenses of the armed forces of ukraine and mobilization, how in principle to get a balance between the need for mobilization measures, which i think are clear to every sober-minded person, and the need preservation of the economic potential of the country, which is also clear to every sober person, but it is not so easy to get it on these terraces, i think it is not easy at all, but we are not the first country in the world that faced war, and we, unfortunately, not the last war, a country in the world that will face

a war, so such issues were decided before us, such issues are decided by us. today such issues will be decided by other people on other continents, god forbid that there should be as few such conflicts as possible, but they will still be equal, and conflicts will be resolved, and therefore today, of course, a balance is very necessary, it is necessary to find such a, you know, stable, clear result so that the armed forces get everything they want, but fairly and correctly, so that there is no dilemma and debate between the leadership of the country and the leadership of the armed forces and the general staff, that yes, no, we do not need... and we believe that the 5,000 that the military invited is not true, it is actually needed, and maybe there can be less, that is, it is necessary , so that this is done by competent people from one and the same on the other hand, and that the military, when they say, responsibly say that if it is necessary exactly this number of people, then exactly this number is necessary in order to fulfill all the tasks that actually

exist today before the general staff and the armed forces of ukraine, and as for the leadership of the state, it is definitely not necessary to follow... in this situation either populism or any insinuations, but one must either trust the leadership of the ministry of defense and agree with their figures, or if one does not trust the ministry of defense, or not trust the general staff, then look for other people whom the leadership of the country and the people of ukraine will trust. as far as the balance is concerned, the balance must definitely be sought, and when we send men to the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, the only solution for us today is automation, it is so impossible to achieve it quickly, because it requires investment, money and time, and the second is today the only way to solve this issue, we are doing at all enterprises that are actually responsible in the economy of ukraine, this is through the fact that we hire more and more

women in those specialties that yesterday were still purely male, that is, today those women who want to help our country today, those women who want to help today's enterprises and their cities where they live and working, those women who want to help the armed forces and their husbands or sons in. they are leaving today and they are being retrained, and we have already been at war for more than two years, and it was possible to retrain a lot, and in fact, mature, intelligent and smart entrepreneurs in their enterprises are they started doing it a year and a half or two years ago, and today they are already actually replacing men in those specialties, in those fields, in those professional positions, men for women, where today purely male professions have already been studied and received by women for the first time. and the most important thing is that today they perform these important economic tasks for the economy of the state no worse than men. well, do i really understand that these should also be measures for

career guidance of people? definitely, definitely today, you know, there were some, let's say investment projects are big, for which people, builders, engineers, they were all there yesterday working on these projects, because there was money, there were investments, there was an understanding of the future, and all this movement. forward, today, when there is no such thing, all these projects, they have been curtailed, that is, people have been freed, and today these people are returning to the main positions in the workplace, the main positions in the production, and if they today professionally, or yesterday did not know how to do it , then they professionally reoriented themselves, and everyone else yesterday there were, let's say, i don't know, heads of, let's say, engineering divisions, today they start doing... things that are purely industrial, today they manage production processes at metallurgical, machine-building, light industry enterprises, any

enterprises that are necessary today for the economy of the state, which are necessary today for the armed forces to receive everything we need, and what the ukrainian economy can provide in order to defend itself and to liberate its territories. thank you sir konstantine, konstantine dzhevago, investor, entrepreneur patron was with us. in touch, thank you for participating in the broadcast, but there is also , of course, a very important topic related to how to get money for economic development in ukraine from russia itself, from a country that by and large destroys ukrainian infrastructure, we have in touch arseniy yatsenyuk, politician, economist, lawyer, former prime minister of ukraine, congratulations, mr. arseniy, congratulations, mr. vitaly, so we are going to have some real conversations about the confiscation of russian assets, how much is really true it can be assumed that this is reality. i know that there was a discussion of the kyiv security forum, of which you are the founder, precisely related to the possibility of transferring these assets, so what, in principle, did you, so to speak,

agree with the participants of this conversation, the well-known western politicians and experts there, there is such a leading global financial publication, the financial times, and we in the financial times published a large appeal signed by more than 40 world luminaries, from the economics of jurisprudence, about confiscating 300 billion russian dollars assets, well, i will explain to the audience that we are talking about 300 billion dollars of assets of the russian central bank, that is, these are dollars, euros, pounds, francs and other freely convertible currency belonging to the government of the russian federation, the direct owner of which was the central bank of russia, and after that, when russia launched a full-scale invasion of ukraine was an unprecedented move. which, actually, putin did not expect, because if he had expected it, then he would have taken all the money out of the european union. the decision was made by the g7 countries

freeze all assets. but from freezing to confiscation, as it turned out, is a very long road. and in fact, we are currently pressuring and putting pressure on our western partners so that a decision is made to confiscate and transfer this money to ukraine for reconstruction. i will remind you that the world bank says that as of today, in a ten-year perspective, ukraine needs 500 billion dollars 500 to rebuild ukraine, i think that these are still very low estimates, but now there is such a, you know, fierce struggle and war for this money and during this discussion, mr. vitaly, information came to light, which can hardly be read at all in the world mass media, it turns out... that russia, together with china, began to put pressure on the member states of the european union in order not to to allow the confiscation of these assets, they simply started threatening and blackmailing europe, first

of all, that the chinese would stop investing, that the chinese would stop buying securities in france, germany, other european union member states, and russia with for its part, it is blackmailing by the fact that, according to the estimates of the russian authorities , the total volume of foreign investments from the west in russia is now 288 billion dollars, although i do not buy this figure, i think they are lying, because... about 100 billion, this is money from cyprus and from the netherlands, most likely it is the same russian money, and that if a decision is made on confiscation, then, accordingly, russia will confiscate the funds of the european union, and the chinese, blackmailing europe, will not invest and will not put money into securities, that is, it is very serious now war, whether a decision will be made at all and why we held the discussion of the kyiv

security forum. because there will be a g7 meeting next month and some decision will have to be made there. unfortunately, i can say that the way things are going, the road to this confiscation is very long. but at least what we should achieve at this stage is to at least force them to send those funds that are currently frozen to such a mechanism that will earn, and the interest earned on the seized russian money should go to... the country, and we are talking about about billions of dollars, it depends on the interest rates of the european central bank and the federal reserve, but it is from three to 5 billion dollars as a minimum, the minimum that ukraine will receive. therefore, strictly speaking, it was i who told you the general picture, which, i think, mr. vitaly, concerns not just the confiscation, it concerns the position of the entire western world in relation to russia and china in general, because you paid a lot of attention in your .

deep analytical studies of the last meeting between putin and president xi, and there is one of points, by the way, mr. vitaly, which was in this joint declaration, that strong condemnation of the attempts to confiscate assets, because china also, i think, looks at this problem from the point of view that the united states, which holds almost... 1 trill of chinese money, because of the securities that china bought in the united states, different mechanisms can also be used in relation to china, so we hope that this will be heard, that it is necessary to confiscate the money, because this is part of the legal responsibility in general russia before ukraine, and this in general, at least some attempts to restore the international order, because now these are just names about the international order, and the second

is what will happen with... the decision to transfer interest income from frozen russian assets to ukraine, because our deficit is simply incredible, well, you understand that the country actually 50% of all state budget expenditures is money given to us by foreigners, if it stops giving this money, well, this is an economic collapse, well, i understand that in any case, any real alternative this transfer of assets, it is that our allies will be... forced to look for their own reserves, right? here, by the way, there is a trap, that's right, but there is a trap, what is the trap, the money that we are talking about now, about 300 billion, this money should go to recovery and reconstruction, and i would very much not like let such a story happen that now this money is confiscated, if it is confiscated at all, and then it will completely remove all other responsibility for further assistance

to ukraine. what will they say, you know, we have already made a decision, these funds will be enough, they are not enough, because i emphasize once again that ukraine needs about 40 billion dollars annually just to survive now, for recovery and for compensation - this is hundreds of billions of dollars, so i would divide these two tracks, the first track is help to ukraine, which is issued by international financial organizations and our allies, the second track is the confiscated funds, which in the first place should be... aimed at the recovery of ukraine, but it is clear that by the time there is recovery, we need to win the war in general, and for in order to to win the war, we won't win it without money. well, here the question is again about the european countries, to what extent they are ready in general, ready to go to a decision that, according to the opinion of many experts in the european union, can undermine the trust in the european financial system on the part of such countries as russia and china, of course.