and for further assistance to ukraine, what will they say, you know, we have already made a decision, these funds will be enough, they will not be enough, because i emphasize once again that ukraine needs about 40 billion dollars annually just to survive now, for recovery and for compensation, it is hundreds of billions of dollars, so i would separate these two tracks, the first track is aid to ukraine, which is given by international financial organizations and our allies, the second track is... confiscated funds, which should be directed first of all on the restoration of ukraine, but it is clear that by the time there is a recovery, we need to win the war in general, and in order to win the war, we will not win it without money, but here the question is again about the european countries, how ready are they in general, are they ready to leave on a decision that, according to many experts in the european union, can undermine the confidence in the european financial system on the part of such countries as russia and china, of course. as of today

, they are generally, what i see, they are not ready to go forward with this decision, and the first person who is categorically against it decision, this is the head of the european central bank, the former managing director of the international monetary fund, christine lahart, she says about what it means, well, it violates sovereign immunity in general, she says that it can have a bad effect on the financial system, that is, a lot. .. i have a very simple, not simple, but clear answer, that is, a violation of international law by russia, illegal aggression, an act of aggression against a sovereign state, this is not an undermining of international law, lack of responsibility for the act aggression against ukraine, this is not an undermining of international law, i am not talking about the fact that the fables that it can undermine the euro, it is not true at all, as of today, only one thing can undermine the euro and the dollar, the defeat of ukraine in this. no, because that

would be a defeat for the west, and just as the pound sterling was once the world's key reserve currency, once the british empire collapsed, it ceased to be the key currency, i.e. the loss of power of the democratic world would mean the loss of power of the currency issued this democratic world, and not the other way around. to what extent do you think european and american politicians understand this, and by the way, secretary of state blinken said that the united states could benefit. it is the right to confiscate assets, but the main money is not in america, absolutely correctly, a little more than 5 billion dollars is concentrated in the united states. by the way, the congress of the united states, when it made the decision to provide ukraine with 61 billion dollars, also provided for the special powers of the us president to confiscate this money. but there are 5 of us billion does not solve anything, because the russians clearly understood that the assets that are located in the united states will definitely be blocked, and that is why they transferred all the money. to the european

jurisdiction, and that is why the main money, which is more than 260 billion euros, is located in europe, but we must also honestly say that part of this money is not just euros, it is dollars, and if it is dollars, then the us federal reserve system is relevant to this i.e. the us has jurisdiction over dollars so in summary the us have already adopted the relevant legislation, this is the first, secondly, canada has already carried out the relevant confiscation, thirdly, at the level of the european union. there must be consensus. and here will be the key problem regarding consensus. and i think that as soon as the decision is made for the european union to adopt the appropriate legal framework, which is lacking today, it will be immediately blocked. let's guess who is with you? well, first of all, hungary. therefore, europe needs to work seriously, but even from a political point of view, for their politicians, for theirs establishment, this decision would be correct, because then they would explain to their taxpayers. we confiscated russian

assets, at the expense of these assets we help ukraine, not at the expense of your money. but there is another question: to what extent, in principle , can we hope that these discussions will lead to such an unexpected result. and in the war itself. we talked with you about the joint statement of the president of the people's republic of china and the president of the russian federation. maybe china just wouldn't want to allow such a precedent. to resolve the issue of confiscation of assets, and as a result we will find out with you that china is demanding that russia put an end to the war before such a decision can even be made? well, i will once again return to the first point, that now china has actually united with russia and is fighting against confiscation, because china considers it a threat to itself as well. well, by the way, the politician wrote and published an interesting article, where, in principle, she is. consistent with

your thesis where they say that the absence of confiscation, but the presence of frozen assets is one with an element of pressure on russia to negotiate. i am a skeptic, in general i tell you in this approach, that is, i do not believe that 300 billion dollars that are frozen can change the course of the war, i do not believe that at all, i believe that 300 billion dollars that are frozen can change the course of reconstruction, more precisely, the process of receiving reparations from russia after the war is won at a certain stage, we will not discuss for a long time what a win is, but this is the only mechanism to receive reparations from russia. of for the chinese to put pressure on russia in terms of stopping the war, it is not profitable for them now, because for china the weakening of the west through the help of the west in ukraine and by the hands

of russia is a good thing, moreover, i believe that this is generally part of their new geopolitics, which they drew for themselves, their geopolitics is... a multi-polar world, well , i don't see multi-polar there, i think that it is bipolar at best, in general, somewhere far in their minds, it is uni-polar, only china instead of the united states. and tell me, in principles, if we are talking about the situation, which is now connected with the vision of european politicians on how to achieve an end to this war without any financial pressure on russia. do you see any alternative, let's say , at least economically. vitaly, without financial pressure it will be impossible to stop this war. because this is actually a very comprehensive approach to pressuring russia. as long as russia continues

to sell oil and gas, and let me remind you that oil and gas make up 40% of revenues, total revenues of the russian budget. as long as oil is at the price it is. it is today, and not below the price ceiling, as predicted, until the moment when russia can finance its military budget, which is 120 billion dollars a year, this is only what we see, the war costs it, due to the sale of oil and gas and at the expense of circumventing sanctions, until the moment when china will continue to help russia in the supply of dual purpose goods and in the acquisition of its energy resources. well , there is little reason to say that this war will stop not to mention the fact that look at the changes in the russian leadership, it would be better to remain the ones that were, and in fact now the group of another war criminal chemyzov, for the audience, these are oligarchs who are

the head of rostech, that is, in fact, this is a key russian corporation that earns the most in the war, she received all the key quotas in russian. in the government, the first vice prime minister, the minister of defense, these are all natives, and chemyzov's courtiers, that is, we are talking about the fact that the restructuring of the russian economy on exclusively military rails, for a war of attrition, so it would be better if scumbags like shoigu and patrushev stayed there. thank you, mr. arseniy, arseniy yatsenyuk, a politician, economist, lawyer, former prime minister, chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, was in touch with us. now let's move on to the internal ukrainian topic, quite important, which i think worries everyone today, these are energy problems. oleksandr kharchenko, director of the energy research center. i congratulate you, mr. oleksandr. good evening, well, literally on the eve of our broadcast, i received a message that there will be

power outages across the country the next, the next day, how can you even explain the need for these outages in the summer? well, the situation is quite transparent with the amount of generation that was lost after march 22, starting from march 22, we simply do not have anything to produce electricity in sufficient quantity physically, that is why these restrictions of consumers are happening, and how do you explain when it happened recently across the country except energy, energy for the whole night, and a lot. who has already built some conspiracy theories, you can do it explain? well, you see, several factors have come together at the same time: firstly, there is actually no import at night, due to the fact that the restrictions artificially kept by the regulator, the ukrainian national commission for

the regulation of electricity markets and utilities, it has set certain price limits on the market, and at night these restrictions are so low that it is practically impossible to buy something from the european market. and on that particular day, two more important factors came together: the first had to be pumped into hydro-accumulating power plants, simply into the other time, it was impossible to do it and... it was necessary for the energy to go there, and as if we had much more serious problems both in the morning and the following evening, the third parameter was that several power units of other hydropower plants had to be stopped due to certain - the technical problems that arose there, they have already been solved, but nevertheless we had to suspend the hess, so these parameters converged and as a result it was a very difficult night, that is, we can say... that it is unlikely that there will be a repetition of just such global blackouts, well see limitations are what we are

now we will live, and we will live, well, for the next couple of years, at least, i do not see any ways or tools that could quickly lead us out of the situation in which we are now, now the repairs of nuclear power units will begin, and this will further limit to ... the available amount of electricity in the system, therefore such restrictions, they will simply be a constant norm, and what will the situation look like in winter, will it differ from summer? and look, july-august, they are very similar to the amount of electricity consumed winter months, there is no fundamental difference here, and what there is... there will be restrictions there inevitably, but there is hope that by winter it will be possible to restore a certain number of power units and

thermal and hydroelectric power plants, and accordingly we will have a larger resource that can be operated , but again it's impossible to predict this 100% because we don't know the attack schedule and what it looks like and how successful it will be, but the question arises: have the russians already destroyed everything they could from an energy point of view, do they have more resources? destruction? i would said yes, there is more to destroy, but it will be much more difficult for them than what has already happened. to what extent, in principle, are some new schemes for energy survival of ukraine possible under these conditions: alternative energy, green energy, creation of some local electric junctions, what can we do to make the situation easier for ourselves. in the following years, because we are talking about two years at least, but if the war continues and we will repair, they will

destroy, we will repair, they will destroy, it may not be two years then, but 22 in such a system in which we are, and it is difficult not to agree that it is quite clear what to do, here is green energy, what is the nuance, no matter how much we love solar and wind electricity, but at the moment when we are talking to you, they they don't give us anything, that is, solar electricity is not available now, there is little wind today, and accordingly wind generation is minimal, so unfortunately these sources of energy are not stable and they are not of much help to us, let's say on december 20, at this time, at 21:30, they are nothing they won't help us, and now the most effective way for ukraine, and there is actually no discussion among energy experts, is... the so-called gas piston and gas turbine generation, these are relatively

small power plants, which will be very difficult to destroy all of them and which are very difficult even to attack all, except for gas piston installations, they are quite portable, they can be installed in such a way that it is difficult to physically even reach them, there, for example, for kharkiv, they discussed installation in reserve subway tunnels, there in certain underground... parking lots and so on and so forth, because in kharkiv, for example, there is direct shelling, protection is very difficult there in general, so this is our way, we need to bring the amount of such generation we need into the country as soon as possible, it is, in principle , available to the world market and the european market and on the american one, that is, there are capacities that can be brought very quickly, very quickly in this context, it is 8-9 months, then... a really, really large volume must be contracted and planned and

brought and installed, and these should be dozens of installations with a capacity 50-100 mw and hundreds of installations with a capacity of 1.5-2 to 5-7 megawatts, which will be distributed in cities and throughout the country, and which will cover critical infrastructure, self-heating, sewage, and everything related to this. and in principle will help us to restore generation, but tell me, if we talk about what is happening with the purchase of energy. and in european countries, this will continue as a trend, do we even have such opportunities? and we have such opportunities, but they are limited, we have restrictions from europe on the import of electricity of 1.7 gw, and even for of the best schedules, the physical limitation is approximately 2 g, that is, more than two, a maximum of

2 gvv 100 mw, we cannot physically pull from europe, and this is not up to... a sufficient volume even to compensate for the deficit that we already have today almost a day. and as for tariffs, what will happen to them? well, you know, my name is not denys anatoliyovych, and my last name is not shmyhal, and maybe there are some other names that need to be remembered, because what will happen to them, i won’t tell you, i don’t know, but that that we will not survive... in the old soviet regime, in which we are now, that's for sure, because no private investor is in the situation, well, sorry, but again , soviet prices for the population for the main energy carrier will not enter the sector, without private investments, we will not

rebuild it, sorry, and even now, if we talk about the fastest recipes, these are precisely private investments. the first thing that happens that i 'm already seeing a lot of businesses bring in equipment to help their businesses operate in an outage is the first thing that they do it because it is cheaper for them to bring gas-piston engines there, install them and provide themselves with electricity, than to go off the grid and die in their technological cycle, which lasts three weeks there. there are enough such businesses, but all these businesses are now working to ensure the general. but for now, this generation will not bring them profit, it will simply allow them to survive, and they need to bring profit, then they will be much more lucky. and where do you need to start with the industry, if we are talking about tariffication, or with the population. and in our industry actually lives in completely market conditions, that is, we have two parts: one part is

the industry market, where prices vary from one hryvnia. er, per kilowatt/hour until then, now it will be up to 10, well, now up to 8 uah, where there are very different prices during the day, where there is always trading, where you can work as in the real market, but because of the fact that in our there are a lot of such soviet relics, for example, yes, the price of electricity is set at the level of 40% in the tariff of water utilities. from the market price that make water canals in this situation, accordingly they do not pay, but it is impossible to turn them off, because what it means to turn off the water canal for a large city is to kill the city, it will not be possible to live without a water canal, without sewage and water in the city, accordingly, this kills the idea of ​​the electricity market, because constantly

debts accumulate, someone does not pay, someone is not paid, and this someone has no interest in working then. in this market and what to do in such a situation? and changes must be made there, all these artificial restrictions must be removed, introduced real market prices, i will remind you of the situation, you know it for sure, vitaly, in 2013, we had gas consumption of 72 billion cubic meters, and in 2015 it was 31, simply because keyin prices were introduced to the market at that time. and they reduced consumption, and significantly changed the situation, and introduced targeted subsidies, yes, there was a crazy political uproar, but no one died, and people received subsidies, and everything worked normally, so the same should be done with electricity, return it to gas and to make warm,

targeted subsidies to those who really need them, everyone else has to pay, we don't otherwise we will survive physically, this war accelerated the process, well, i don't want to say the word reform, yes, because it is already at the throat of everyone, but without these changes, we will not rebuild the energy industry, or disconnection, or changes. well, you understand that what we are discussing with you is very unpopular in society, people will say that, you see, we are losing money anyway, the standard of living is falling, the dollar is rising, tariffs will continue to rise here, it is necessary, listen the situation is simple once again, vitality, electricity will become less, and at some point people have to choose, do they have no electricity 12 hours a day? do they have a market price, that is, this can also happen, do you think that there will be no electricity for 12 hours, and what are the reasons for her to return, as long as there is no

financial incentive to rebuild the electricity industry, and it is expensive and long, well , really expensive and long, charming the wand does not exist, it will not happen instantly, and the amount we need right now is somewhere under 3 billion dollars, right now, and then in three years we will have normal electricity again, well , that is, if we repair everything and nothing not will be bombed again, well, let's build a distributed decentralized system of a completely different format, not soviet, and so on and so forth, but 3 billion, well, now the cabinet of ministers has allocated 1.5 billion for the restoration of thermal power plants, i understand that it's not about that, right? well, these are different billions, then hryvnias, then dollars, first of all, this money is... just plugging holes and repairing what can be restored after the attacks, there is a part of the capacities that can be restored, they must be restored before season, this is critically important, and

here i fully support the cabinet, it is necessary to do, but you have to understand, again, that this is the restoration of 50-year-old coal-fired power plants, into which rockets flew, no repairs will save them in two or three years, but who will give us 3 billion, you may ask? well, it’s very simple, either we made changes and our private investors went into this business, or no one, well, we had so -called private investors in the energy sector, our cloud energy belonged to various leading business groups, why didn’t they reform all this at all , but you can simply say, this is a rhetorical question, of course, but simply of course it is rhetorical, they privatized it, they didn't build it, they didn't buy it, they... trawled, well, let's be frank, and you and i remember well the period of privatization, what happened, well, theft of assets, who

got what, everything , which came cheaply, is not valued, it is logical, in principle, i understand that we have several critical periods there, that's right, but now it will be june, it will be less serious, then july, august is more serious, then autumn and. .. and then with winter, the months that will be more difficult due to the heating season, yes, that is, before that it is absolutely fair, absolutely fair, difficult , difficult july, difficult august, easier in the fall, and a very difficult period begins from november and lasts until february, but in fact we now have to realize that it can be corrected, at least until winter season, that's right, and we have p... everything that can be done now at the tactical level, sometimes crookedly, sometimes obliquely,

but it is done as intensively as possible, and technically the work is carried out as tightly as possible, there are many different problems, but believe me, that at the level of performers, at the level of real people who do it with their hands, work really goes on 24/7. well, i understand correctly that the capabilities of such companies as detek are now significantly limited due to these accidents, that we no longer have those monopolists on the market that used to exist and those large holdings that used to exist? and it is, well, in fact , the energy industry of ukraine now has a unique opportunity to get rid of monopolies, to get rid of a significant part of that, well, frankly, corruption, which has eaten away a lot of the energy industry. years and still continues partially, because the changes we are talking about say, they will deprive many people of large cash flows, even now, today, but

these cash flows are already much smaller because of the war, well, that is, in fact, new players, smaller but more efficient, should come, and they are, and there are many medium-sized businesses in ukraine, who have already announced that they... are very interested in going into this industry, they are different, there is a new post office and an epicenter, and i can now list those who have already started their work in the energy sector, and they can shape it, because energy is the business the road is long, you can't get there without capital, you can't go there without a team, you can't go there without management, all this is necessary, but the average ukrainian business can be formed now in ukraine. competitive and normal energy industry, in which at the end of the war and immediately after the war, foreign investors will want to go and

start giving real money. thank you, mr. oleksandr, oleksandr kharchenko, director of the energy research center. fm, galicia. listen to yours. i remember bitargin. the morning will be without a hangover. tingling, numbness or crawling of ants in the limbs occur spontaneously and are disturbing you. a special complex of active substances of dolgita antineuralgia helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia promotes the return to usual activities without subjugation and numbness in the limbs.

dolgit capsules anti-neuralgia help. on your nervous system. the final of the europa league is only on mego. will atalanta spoil bayer leverkusen's best season ever? turn on the climax of the euro season. may 22 at 22:00 exclusively on meggo. there are discounts represented by coco discounts in may on fenstyl 15% in pharmacies plantain bam and oshchad. didn't see the classics underpants never what? i wrote a children's poem here, will you listen? tractor in the field dir-dir. then why are we for peace? in the latest edition of the magazine ukraine. bill 5655, reform or corruption trap, investigation of the country. when and how crimea will return to ukraine, an interview with the chairman of the mejlis ryfat chubarov. how did the defense of kyiv actually take place? colonel oleksandr vdovichenko of the zsu. memories of a brilliant

ukrainian translator. mykola lukash and many other stories and analytics with the country in the center of the main ask the magazine country in points of sale. to feel life, not heartburn, take hyalera. hyalera - victory over heartburn. your country is located in the region where you are currently. of the great patriotic war, the leg of a soviet soldier stood, we are not from this region, we will not leave, i congratulate you, this is svoboda live on radio svoboda, we have already come to the snake itself. footage

can shock you, news from the scene live, drone attacks, kamikaze, political analysis, objective and meaningful, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front, freely and impartially, you draw your own conclusions. to take the wounded from the battlefield in time means to save his life, a bc ride, a boys ride, a quad bike is a way from zero to our life. at this stage of the war, an atv is the best solution for evacuating the wounded from scratch. we encourage everyone to donate to the collection from zero to life on a quad bike for the 93rd brigade of kholodny yara in the direction of time.

2:00 p.m. in ukraine, for your attention , a news release on the spresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers, russians tried to go on the offensive in luhansk region, tried to break through the in the region of bilogorivka, but suffered heavy losses, reported the head of the region, artem lysohor. 17 times the russian army attacked our positions in this direction, the occupiers also concentrated their troops near stelmakhivka in the kupyansk direction. vovchansk in kharkiv oblast was already evacuated more than 10 years ago