literally two weeks before the release of the house, the word for rental appeared, and it is at the same time such interest, young people who listen to the brewer, and here is a feature film, and tell everyone about skorupiya, immediately tell everyone about the son, beat the drum of sadness in my heart cried out to this song, of course geo shkorupia, well, he conveyed it brilliantly, then of course the song is not a poem, geo shkorupia, but it is important that it is... the idea itself, the idea itself is taken, here you know, well, regarding, regarding this , and this is popularization, just before that there was a project that was done about poets and writers peasant revival, unfortunately, i didn't delve into it very much, probably foxtrots, coveted and worse, and there, but, but it is important that it remains such a mystery that you want to join, if we talk about the mystery that cinema reveals , i know that you lived in...

words in order to work, but tell me more about energy, about the history of this building, let's say, about its beginning and about the end of this place, where there really was such magma, hot ukrainian creativity , because there is a story in china about how, well, i watched like this teaser, because i'm going to the cinema, i haven't seen the movie yet, there and there is a story about how stalin gives money for a house, the word is that ukrainian writers went to moscow, and there they were supposed to bring this big suitcase full of money, well, that is, it is such a cool story, but how was it in reality, the story is cool, because it was invented by ostap vyshnya, so, well , pavlo gubenko was a genius, he was a genius, as they say, an inventor, but here is the beginning, prosperity and decline of this house, the word , which...

most importantly, the owl house, by the way , was handed over quite late, that is, most of what we we know about our 20s, it happened to the slovo house, it was started to be built, it is a writer's cooperative, i want to remind you that it was not the state, not the party, not the government that gave out apartments in this building, the writers built it with their own money, and at the moment, when this money was not enough, and they already wanted their own housing, where they could live and work normally, they... during the week of ukrainian culture in moscow and during the meeting with stalin, which they did not know about, this meeting was organized, organized kaganovich, i understand, is present at it too, and during the conversation, in which, by the way, ukrainian writers demanded that bulgakov's turbine days be filmed in mkhata, while stalin is responsible for the national issue in the party, and it was a rather heated conversation, and... at the end

a note arrived, no longer in the form of an oral speech, but a note arrived with a request to support the construction of a house, the construction of a house for writers, and stalin ordered, of course, that it was no no no no valiska that stapa vyshnya would import, he invented it already after the second world war world war these stories, and it was passed down as a legend, well obviously, taras was so impressed by her that taras used her as a bottomless fact in the film, let me remind you... it is also an artistic one, so in addition to the actual facts, it also contains an artistic conjecture, fiction, and even real facts can be overgrown with such artistic interpretations, and but really her party, the state, the government, i don’t know who, but by order of stalin, they allocated the last grant, let’s call it that, the last contribution to the construction, and the writers settled there in the spring of the 30th year, and the 30th year... well so

full of hopes, desires, you can imagine their own spacious, luxurious apartment, where everyone seems to be their own, well, no, it was not a cooperative, friends, not at all, there lived writers of various and, members of various literary organizations, literary opponents lived, let's say, i lived in a literary residence in the house of the word, in the apartment of the writer and journalist. semenka and nataliya ozhvai, on the second floor above us lived our sworn enemies, ivan mykytenko, lived in that entrance, there was the critic volodymyr koryak, a proletarian critic who was a forester, opposite the door of mykhailo's apartment he oppressed all of them and didn't particularly like them, he simply beat mykhailo semenko and valeriyan polishchuk at one of the parties, and polishchuk covered his head with his hands and sat and endured it, that is , they were very different people, of different political backgrounds. orientation, but they were aware

that they were all writers, they were artists, by the way, by the way, it should be remembered that not only writers lived in the house of the word, les kurbas, he is in the film, but... artists also lived there , anatol petrytskyi, vadim meller, there were many actors there, because ostapa vyshny, his wife, actress, varvara maslyuchenko, natalia uzhviy, semenko's wife, well, either she is semenko's wife, or semenko's husband is lively, it can be called in different ways, that is, it was such a house in which a creative, creative bohemian gathered and... and petro lisovyi is the pseudonym of the writer, his real name is svashenko, and his brother, semyon svashenko, is an actor, a star of dovzhenko's arsenal, that is, it is obvious that dovzhenko often visited that house, for example, as a guest of various

writers, namely mykola khvylovy, who actually had a last name again fitilov, as far as i understand, and as far as i remember, i should remember, and what do you think, or? indeed, this is the suicide of the author of yaromantika, it is such a concentrated, concentrated pain of this tragedy of the house of the word, well, that is, everything else can be woven into it and kulish and kurbas, and in kyiv at that time kosynka was also killed and pluzhnyk was sent to solitary confinement, that is, it is not it happened only in kharkiv, but the whole and yalova, all these tragedies can be influenced by this concentrate, which was discovered in the history of the wave or? justified it and would you agree that khvylovy expressed the most, perhaps tragically and emotionally, precisely the collapse of the house of words, undoubtedly the wave leader of the generation, that is , his shot for everyone who lived in the house,

who lived outside it, in other houses, kharkiv, kyiv, it was a huge sign, and this was tragic. a sign for them, they understood that this would not be the case in the future, i will remind you that this is the second year of the famine, that is, the famine began already in the fall of the 32nd year, the 33rd year, the waveman went to harvest bread, and saw with his own eyes everything this, and the seen impression from of the ukrainian village became the last straw, although the desire... uh, to put a bullet in his forehead has been there for a long time, he admits to mykola zerov in letters of the 23rd year that he went out of town several times and wanted to shoot himself, but lacked the strength , and therefore this is not the act of a timid person, not a coward, as the soviet authorities tried to present it at the time, in order to somehow explain why the most famous

writer, and he was really the most famous writer of this generation, after his first books, all subsequent ones, the youth who came in literature, she wrote everything under the clock. they simply could not get out of his influence, in the same way in all memoirs you can read about the fact that in ordinary human communication, he had a simply magical impression, made everyone fall for him, well, if not in love, then bewitched by him, memories of how they came to kyiv at the end of the 23rd year, and there was a party in the current theater of lesya ukrainka, where kharkiv writers read their texts, and when it was noisy and the theater was huge... there were no amplifiers, microphones, loudspeakers only, and wavy read when he here are the pines, how the pines feed the pines of the asian land, the silence stood, simply dead, and his voice in this silence, it is to kikia humenna remembers, sounded, well, if not prophetic, but like

a voice from above, a testimony, and a person who is such an impression does in personal communication, which has... simply a primary importance in the cultural and literary life of this age, she lays hands on herself, puts a bullet in her forehead, in the presence of her closest friends in the next room, of course, i think that in the nearest half a year among writers, among intelligentsia, there were no other conversations at all, except about the act of the waveman, did they understand that they would come to them just as you came... to yalovy, i don't know, sometimes i think about the fact that not all of them, not all of them were afraid, but over time, this is the 34th year, when the shot rang out in leningrad, and it has much more significance, yes, in december, at the beginning of december

of the 34th year, kirov was shot in leningrad and mass arrests began all over the country, all over union, but in ukraine they were especially brutal because there were arrests. in kyiv up to about 40 people, 37, it seems persons, they were sentenced to be shot within two weeks and shot the next day, among them was, for example, 26-year-old poet oleksa vlysko. a deaf-mute who did not even hear the shot that killed him. and there is so much symbolic, terrible, dramatic in this whole story, tragic, in the end, and it seems to me that semenko, johanson were arrested already in the 37th year, that they fully understood, were aware of this tragedy, understood that the same would come for them, that it will not be possible to survive. in the end, i will remind you of the tragedy of pavlo tychyna, who is not heard the sounds of gunshots, but... he was killed back then in the early 30s, he did not revive as a poet, even after de-stalinization,

by the way, stus wrote very well about him in the phenomenon of the age and the ascent to calvary of glory, the actual work, which began the collapse of his career, both as a literary critic and as a poet, but not the collapse of his personality, because stus actually became a great poet thanks to his suffering, but there he wrote that i saw a stamen twice and twice dead, first in the hall presidium. then in the coffin, well, rila experienced his about, his torture, his tragedies, but rylskyi still did a lot for the ukrainian language, for ukrainian literature, as scientific, revived, there is rylskyi, there is mykola bazhan, let's not forget his philosophical poetry of the second half of the 20th century, this is an achievement of world literature , you don't see that stream as a person, as a singer of the unr era, and his first collections are a dream. chernihiv, he, it was brilliant, and, by the way, i read critics

who said that the stream, it really was, could be, but at least in its embryo, on his beginning, was indeed by all indications, perhaps the greatest poet of the 20th century could have become, for sure, that, but such a person was broken, by the way, in russia, putin, i say putin, well, it’s basically here according to freud, stalin , he was already such a cynical bastard, who, let's say, to... samgusta svitaeva, whom he brought back from france, actually, then she committed suicide, but he allegedly left the block, they left akhmatov, but they closed her mouth immediately in leningrad, they left bulgakov, but again above him mocked, very subtly, i'm not saying that these people, they somehow loved ukraine, it's not an attachment to ukraine, it's an attachment to the fact that it was annihilation, but in ukraine, what 's interesting, well, most prominent nobody did not hesitate and here the question, you know, is important, because here are these russian narratives, well, this is not stalin,

this is what was done on the ground, there khrushchev, kosior, kaganovich, those people who actually carried out the holodomor in ukraine, well, this is not stalin , this is the local central committee of the communist party of ukraine, it was they who did these things in ukraine, symonenko from the communist party tried to justify crimes for this , is it true or should we say that no, it was the general line of joseph stalin himself in... stalin's lists, these are the lists for execution that he personally signed, not all ukrainian writers are there, let's say signed, these are lists with many people, hundreds, thousands of people, but there is a personal list, stalin’s signature on these lists, they are on the internet, the russian memorial scanned them a long time ago, posted them, you can look at it, he is personally guilty of the great terror , all the rest his... their executors took turns removing yagoda, yazhova, in the end beria came, that is, people

changed, the executors of his will changed, but his will was the same, and they suffered the same from all this, well, but in the end we are not interested in their fate, we are interested in ukrainian writers, they often say that there was terror in all soviet republics, that everyone suffered equally, but no, this can be traced, even, even more so, when compared with, compared to russian literature, where there oberiuts, let's say, were shot, alenikov, well, there are only a few it's simple, or boris pilniak, or, that is, they should be mentioned, babel, yes, they should be mentioned, you just take the best writer of the 20s in our country, and he is definitely shot, the bully died himself, but he was just sick with epilepsy.

moreover, we want to think that it was very scary, in fact it is the banality of evil, as in a totalitarian society, everything was very simple, very... rationally, today we look at auschwitz and rudolf hess, it was roughly like this however, this did not coincide with the shooting of moss sanders not read before the october holidays, that's later. fiction, because it seemed to us that it somehow sounded more tragic that way, in fact it was, they had nowhere to put the prisoner, and they decided to simply reduce the number of detainees, and they also shot them thoughtfully, not with one bullet, because that it would be fantastic if a bullet pierced two skulls and it was possible

to knock out people in this way, but they were not shot once more, they were taken out, they were undressed for... a charge before the execution, because clothes could still be needed, all this is terrible, i don't know, or it was about representatives of the creative intelligentsia, but the fact that barges were flooded with people somewhere in the northern seas in russia, i also read such stories, it’s much simpler, the barge is old, it’s not needed, and plus you you will still drown several hundred people who are definitely not from it, well , maybe it was, but ukrainian writers, the vast majority were shot at the beginning of november 37 in the tract of sa... tormog, their graves are there, later shootings in december, it seems that this this tract is called ladeinaya field, it is somewhere near leningrad, there in particular, geoshkurupii was shot, uh, and later they made a training ground there, a military unit and the russian memorial were still there, they did not allow excavations to be carried out there, so we do not even know the number of victims, and there was no exhumation

of human bodies, how many still lie there under leningrad . by the way, to the question about the victims of political repressions, we are saying that these days ukraine honors the victims of political repressions, just like, say, in belarus, where creative intelligentsia were also killed, lukashenko still does not allow to carry out some serious work on disbanding it, and the bullpen, let's remember the horsk, vasyl simonenko, then les tanyuk also joined it, in my opinion, but the story of lygorsk ended very sadly, well , supposedly there... or who is there some such supposedly everyday story, but everyone understands that it is not everyday, beaten at the train station in smila, if i am not mistaken, vasyl symonenko, actually beaten, i once spoke with professor vasyl vasyliovych yaremenko, who was almost the last to see symonenko still alive in the hospital, and here he is talked about what it was, then they started

saying that it was a serious illness from which symonenko died, but in principle it was a beating by the police, when they found out that it was symonenko, they started beating them. with even greater passion, but these are people who tried to find out what was in the bullpen, well, actually, this ended up being such a story for them, it was already there at the beginning of the 60s of the last century, it is about how the soviet authorities not only did her crime, but continued to hide it, and now the russians are actually doing the same thing, but ukrainian writers from those famous stories that we know, and amelina died in an enemy terrorist attack... vakulenko, his diaries remained, he was simply killed by the enemy, and now we see what the enemy continues to do, this can be explained as that this is simply russia in relation to ukrainian culture, and here you can even see that there is no longer stalin, there is only ying, they had lenin, stalin, putin, but it continues,

you understand this russian phenomenon, a terrible russian phenomenon, well this totalitarian state above all. was, is, i hope that she will never be again, but this is how she destroyed all living things, everything that did not submit, everyone knows the ukrainian people as freedom-loving, freedom-loving, and certainly, well, this would never be possible in a russian totalitarian state to exist, and when it was given for 10 years... in our 20s there from the 21st to the 31st, the period of nep and gentle ukrainization, well why gentle, it was quite harsh to many people, i saw an announcement in to the odesa newspaper that they are looking for a person with a higher education who speaks the ukrainian language, and there they offered some crazy money for

work, because in odesa in the 20s it was difficult to find such people, and they forced them to learn ukrainian. quite seriously, this is not a gentle ukrainization in our country, but this ukrainization simply opened, all the floodgates were opened for culture to develop at its own pace, and it gained momentum very quickly, but everything was stopped abruptly, we moved from and in the economy , and in culture, in everything, it was simply blocked and a great terror began immediately, immediately. famine began, great terror, that is destroys simply physically, destroys the people, destroys the intelligentsia, as the essence of this people, and this was a calculated policy. and it is still being conducted, it was definitely not aimed specifically at amelina’s age, but they are aiming at us, as ukrainians and ukrainian women, as at ukrainian

culture, that is why they kill indiscriminately and die the best writers, writers, how many people have died in this war, you know, i myself we literally have a few minutes left for the end, but after all, we started with a conversation about cinema, the house of words, an endless novel, and... in this movie and in this story in general, even what may not have made it into the script, but what was in this house of the word, and the most important story for you, both in and in the cinema, and in general in the history of the rise and fall of the house of the word, if such a story, which affects you the most, the story of a writer, the story of a book, the story of a fight, maybe somewhere there, or something, well , there were no fights in the house and... there were no big fights, it is still a residential building, for me the most when i lived there, i perceived it as a house in which people live, and they also live in it

they lived there, loved, had sex, gave birth to children, wrote their works, invited their friends to visit them to read these works, and we still do, when i am there, i will be there again in june at the residence to work on a book about the house of the word, a small announcement, i am inspired by the fact that there is a life in it , a documentary book, and the book will be a documentary, no, not fiction, i will not invent anything, i wanted to say, i will make up, but this is not fair to the authors of a feature film, for example, no , it will be a documentary book, but so bright, i hope we will succeed in everything, and then we will talk about the result, and the question is exactly for this time, there is life in the house, the house was damaged during the shelling on march 22. year, in the second entrance, where ostap vyshnya, novelist and playwright ivan dniprovsky lived, the doors were damaged, the windows were blown out, people

killed, obviously they left, but still there is life there, and that's the main thing, you know, i'm ostap vyshnya in general somehow very not unloved by russia, it was not enough that he was sentenced to be shot, then replaced by hard labor for 10 years, his museum was destroyed in the kherson region, where the ukrainian army is fighting with the enemy, and also on this... on the porch where he lived in kharkiv, well, obviously his, his position, it is still, and very, well, literally 30 seconds, but tell me , please, ukraine, now there is no need to gather all the writers in one house, there are many ukrainian writers in different cities, somewhere now maybe outside the borders of ukraine, there are many ukrainian writers at the front , also now my acquaintances and friends, but - how long will it take, even i do not think that the war will end, the war continues, but this one i'm taking time... so that we bloom to the level of plant revival, or are we already reaching this level, it's just that we always modestly talk about ourselves as writing, as literature. it seems to me that we are reaching this

level, i always compare our 1920s and our 2020s, i see many parallels, since the revolution took place then, many perceived it precisely as the ukrainian revolution and... and it seemed to many people that in the ukrainian ssr, what was the name of the republic then, that this is ukraine, independent, independent, which we chose, it is simply in federation with other republics, and this explosion immediately began, plus ukrainization, so it was supported and helped, cultural, we gained independence in 1991, we were rocking for a very long time, we had different conditions, but this explosion began, although it was, if... not in time, but it began, and we are in all spheres, it will really be destroyed by what prevents us and will allow a truly worthy great ukrainian

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