friction within various branches of government and institutions, it continues, and at the moment we simply see how the parliament shows its teeth or its subjectivity in relation to other institutions, but for us the task is not that the parliament is in a cold war with the government, with the president's office, with other institutions, on the contrary, in that there was a constructive working atmosphere and normal relations, and this is already broader, to the task of the authorities as a whole to ensure this communication and this this model of work, institutionalization, re-personalization, it is even more correct to say, within the government itself, because now, first of all, the source of this tension is the relationship within the ruling team itself, which is divided into various institutions, regarding decisions and incentives, it is clear that the parliament has this role, it is absolutely organic in being full " yaznyam " society and rebroadcast,

aggregate this public interest to other authorities, and at least the parliament is a place for discussion and raising these issues and searching for these solutions, that is why there are resolutions, not only laws, this is one of the mechanisms that is in parliament just for such a case, such as statements, and appeals and others, because parliamentary activity is not only to pass laws, it is also many other functions performed by parliamentarians, in particular, in relation to other branches of government regarding. regarding the draft law on the church, here i have quite, let's say, a complex position, ambiguous, because the draft law that is currently in place will not satisfy the demand in society, due to the fact that it is already being communicated precisely as a draft law on the banning of the moscow church, and this in he doesn't have it, he doesn't forbid her, the next one a day of life will not change, it creates a mechanism so that it is possible to ban in court and... this is just the right way,

although it is a long way, because if it were otherwise, then in court you could give such a decision and we would prove through the european court of human rights that in this way we do not violate the right to freedom of conscience, and accordingly we do not persecute citizens on the basis of religion, therefore this draft law is only the beginning of the judicial, and therefore politically it will not give an effect here and now, on the contrary. even its passage may cause a certain wave of disappointment, for the next day will not be what the people expect from the bill, but he cannot give it away, but now its passage may be used by our enemies of the united states, as the election campaign enters its final phase , and we remember as a thesis about and how much money, in particular libyan money, russia poured into this thesis of promotion in the united states, about the fact that orthodoxy is allegedly banned in ukraine, as was said, or christians in general, as taylor herself wrote

green and other, to put it mildly, very radical pro-russian subjects in the united states, and now to receive another wave of actualization of the church, where no one in the crucible of the election company will understand what exactly is prohibited, in what way and that in general no one does anything forbids, but only create judicial mechanisms, but nevertheless it will definitely be used against us, the russian federation would pay us here , since we would pay half... they would do it for them now, it is quite profitable for us, maybe it is the question just needs to be postponed until the end of the election campaign in the states and then adopt the mechanism and then really engage in this issue seriously. thank you, mr. olezh, gentlemen, should the results of volodymyr zelenskyi's presidential term be postponed until the end of the war and the arrival of a new president? the president of ukraine himself stated in an interview with foreign journalists that my five... years have not yet ended,

they are still ongoing, and therefore, in principle, let people evaluate how i cope with it, but people cannot to evaluate, because there are no elections now and, accordingly, it is not possible to hold everything a general poll of ukrainians there, whether zelensky fulfilled his promises, whether they are actually satisfied with president zelensky himself, mr. oleksiy, the fact is that the presidential team... slipped on may 20, 2024, when in principle the president could have left to the verkhovna rada and have his say, after all, it has been 5 years since the inauguration of the president, and it would probably be right for him to say something in the conditions when his powers are extended and it is not known to what extent. yes, it was right, it was right, i think. what would happen

that's right, if the president made a meaningful, annual address to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, it would be important, because it is an opportunity to share, actually, to indicate his... vision of ways of development for the coming year of the foundations of foreign and domestic policy, despite the fact that war, the president should have a dialogue with the verkhovna rada, that is, the bank should not perceive the parliament, sorry for the words, as subjects, should not perceive that they have a control panel, like a television one, they press button one - it is there servant of the people, point 2, a trust group that will add votes, you cannot work like that , you need to... communicate with the parliament, and then, by the way, there will be no bacchanalia in legislative work, there will be no complete chaos, then there will be priorities, there will be strategies, there will be a vision, but oleg has already started talking about the example with the church bill, what is the problem, the problem is that no one in power

wants to look at least a year ahead, understand the consequences, look a little further, everyone looks very simply, spend sociology, yes, people are in favor of banning the moscow patriarchate, we will adopt a bill with a beautiful name. what do we want to get as a result? indeed, we will receive a draft law that fundamentally will not solve anything, the effect of which may extend over time for years, even decades. the issue will not be resolved. there is another way, a simplified mechanism for the transition of parishes. yes, this is the way, this is the mechanism, and i am convinced that 80%. uoc clergy, especially when it comes to parish clergy, can freely transfer to the orthodox church in ukraine, especially those as for the western regions, central regions of ukraine. of course, the situation with the episcopate is completely different, that is, you understand,

the discussion takes place in the format of slogans, no one wants to look ahead, and the same, i am convinced that now for the presidential team, it is five years, what is important... to realize it is that there is a very serious crisis related to decision-making, a government crisis, a parliamentary crisis, the mechanism is not working, i have the impression that the vast majority of the representatives of the president's team for for 5 years, they still did not understand how the state works, how decisions are made, what needs to be done, this is a problem, but everyone works more in the format, but there is an information topic, it must be stopped. in the information field, they work more like political technologists, not statesmen, not strategists, this is a big problem, well, maybe they work like people who came from television and understand that the ratings of yesterday’s program are in the morning, and

accordingly, they already focus on how they should adjust their policies for that, a very good comparison, a very good comparison, here they are are really measured by ratings, there are peaks. you are there in social groups who are looking at how to break this topic, but you know, here is another key failure in the fact that there are not enough managers at the state level, managers who were in the circle of the president, as advisers, as close people, here i am i always give the example of viktor yushchenko, when in the first years of the presidency, he was constantly treated, he really underwent an incredible number of operations there, but i apologize, he had ivan stepanovich plyushch, who could, who had a statesman's mindset, and who could approach of the president, to say no, viktor andriyovych, i categorically disagree, later there was viktor baloga, who could object, and now the president’s team only knows how to nod their heads forward, and i can’t imagine who from

the president’s entourage could say a different opinion, express other opinion, all the more to deny the head of state, here about the figures, according to the kmis, the sharpest decrease. trust in zelenskyi took place between december 2023 and the beginning of february 2024, when trust dropped from 77% to 60 or 65%. now trust is kept at the same level, moreover ukrainians are more critical of the president and his entourage, but 70-80% are confident that the elections are not at the right time and currently do not question his legitimacy, we do not question his legitimacy. and we, because we understand that president zelenskyi is the current president, which, mr. oleg, these figures show, of course, when i say that the level of trust has decreased from 77 to 60, it is still 60, a large figure for today , and

maybe it is not as big as it was there in december of the 23rd year, and not as big as it was in april 2019, but zelensky was and... remains the most trusted politician, as far as i understand, after zaluzhny, because zaluzhny has now gone to britain. what can you say about these five years and why zelensky refused to sum up and make some kind of a certain summary, ordinary, traditional, no one insists on this, but it would be absolutely logical. it seems to me that this strategy was chosen in order not to emphasize attention, but it seems to me that it is about losing, on the contrary now it would be necessary to make the sweets by force and set the agenda for this annual report, thus demonstrating that the authorities are perfectly aware that now would be

the moment when the powers would have ended, if there had been no russian attack, and precisely under such a narrative it would be possible to have a rather serious, sometimes uncomfortable conversation with society and it would be perceived as a strong step, and actually there are very high-quality and professional pr people and screenwriters in... the team of the current president who can to ensure this process well enough, and it would be beneficial to both the state and zelensky himself. the level of trust that is preserved is an element of the consolidation of ukrainians around the military-political leadership. it is necessary to understand that we are not talking about ratings now, and even more so, not about the ratings of a politician. the level and rating, speaking in this language, of commander-in-chief zelenskyi, the supreme commander. rating of president zelenskyi and candidate zelenskyi, and we can put any surname in these three configurations, this

absolutely three different ratings, both trust and support, attitude, etc. and while we are at war, it is clear that in this case it is about the element of responsibility and consciousness of ukrainian society, and therefore the answer may differ: do you support the actions of president zelensky, the answer will be, for example, no, but do you trust the supreme commander of the president zelensky? so? the answer will be i trust, we need to look at the migration between trust and rather trust, and then we can see what is hidden there just the answer to what the dynamics are, does this trust increase, does it happen, or does it happen in some cases already because of no, regardless of, but i trust, and these are the alarm bells for the authorities and the place where you need to work, because legality of president zelenskyi is currently indisputable, we all understand it... and international practice here is absolutely on the side of ukraine, and our domestic

legislation, it is extremely difficult to undermine the continuation of zelenskyi's powers now, but legitimacy is softer and more amorphous after all after all, the category is about the readiness to accept the decision, the readiness to trust and obey, and here it will be dynamic all the time, and will depend... on the level of challenge that will have to be met. certain decisions require a high level of unity and trust of the authorities, and it will be increasingly difficult to meet these standards. in a normal period, elections make it possible to refinance, change one's name, the institution again gains additional trust in society, legitimacy, and it's like a heart pumping blood from election to election, so trust itself in any republic, but when there is none. elections, then it is necessary to activate with double force other cross-border mechanisms of democracy of participation, consultations,

participation in decision-making and implementation, decentralization, deconcentration of part of the powers, all this the authorities need to think about and do now, and it could be part of this agenda, as we we live in conditions where president zelenskyy is still with us for a certain period of the war, despite the fact that he was elected for 5 years and... the authorities could could already create mechanisms to replenish this legitimacy and self-confidence, despite all the complex challenges that will fall before it, and a whole series of image and other losses that they are currently suffering, in particular due to personnel policy, accumulated issues and many other fair critical remarks about the authorities. well, by the way, regarding personnel issues, because this is probably the most painful place that volodymyr zelenskyi's team has, when he went to the elections, he... said that as soon as i find out that one of my people will be there taking bribes or living dishonestly, i will immediately

react to it, and reacts, but not as quickly as i would like, andriy smirnov, who is now the former deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine, and received suspicion today, and it is about acquisition, illegal acquisition of property, including apartments. of a plot of land in the carpathians, precisely during his tenure as the deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine, and as soon as he acquired it. began to consider this case, of course, smirnov himself was dismissed from his position, smirnov today he himself confirmed that the criminal case, or even the suspicion was handed to him, he says that, uh, i confirm the information with the media about the handing over of the notice of suspicion to me, the suspicion is not from the sbu, but from nabu, this is the first, second, the event

has been expected by me for a long time, with given the fact that it was announced almost six months before today by all possible methods... suspicions were served and searches were carried out quickly and delicately, there are no comments to the detectives, and one of volodymyr zelenskyi's promises is to destroy the system that existed before him , that is, he said that we will come, rebuild the entire country, we will not steal at the customs, and they will no longer take bribes, and in general the whole system will be rebooted. mr. oleksiy, or? in your opinion, did president zelensky manage to destroy the system that was passed down from one president to another in 5 years? well, first of all, i am categorically opposed to the very terminology of breaking the system, that is, depending on who puts exactly what meaning into these formulations, because if it turns out, based

on the election rhetoric of the chairman, the candidate president volodymyr zelenskyi, when he talked about the end of the era of poverty, the end of the era of greed and many other such beautiful epithets, exclusively in the emotional plane, there was a certain logic here, and the thesis that we will destroy the system and build such ideal biblical rules in the work of the authorities, on the other hand there are realities, i apologize, there are figures that show that this did not actually happen , to put it mildly, i recall in... in the 21st year , experts who are sufficiently authoritative for me centers indicated that according to their calculations, due to schemes at customs, the state misses out on an amount in the region of 10 billion dollars every year. there were other assessments that said that the situation is even worse, but despite everything

, we are talking about numbers with many zeros, so you can imagine, the implementation of the customs reform is completely transparent. rules of minimization of corruption, what amount of money could be accumulated to the state budget during the hard phase of the war, i.e. drones, ammunition, i think that it could be definitely increased many times over, and obviously we are talking about many things, i.e. misunderstanding on the one hand, on the other hand, it is possible that there is a conscious reluctance of certain representatives of the authorities who are responsible for... certain areas of work there, in particular at customs, on the third hand, it is possible that it is simply incompetence, because a set of measures must be taken for to quickly and efficiently carry out certain anti-corruption steps, and again, i will remind you that the topic of corruption is so powerful now that during the last visit the us secretary of state pointed to the topic of corruption

in a separate block, on the eve of the visit of the us ambassador in ukraine... separately pointed out the need for official kyiv to implement anti-corruption reforms, that is, we will not implement them, it will have the corresponding consequences, including with a delay, even partial, even symbolic, but still a decrease, a delay of other funds of many finances, , maybe even military equipment, that is, the more skepticism there is towards ukraine, the less support there will be, well, the formula can only be this. thank you, mr. oleksiy, mr. oleg, but why didn't zelenskyy do his job? promises to fight corruption, what, what prevented it? well, i would say that here from the very beginning the request was vicious, because it is easy to break and demolish the voting system for zelenskyi, it was a protest vote in which people expressed all that hurt during

many, many years of ukrainian independence, all those experiments , and in the end people said that... that now we were mocked, and now we are mocking politicians and here we will show you such a trick with the election of a completely non-system person, non-political, and this will be a kind of evil joke on the politicians, and for what the politicians did to the society, and this opposition, it played an evil joke in this case on the whole society, not only on the politicians, and therefore, when the demand is formed for the demolition of the old system, then i understood... that the new team that came, they actually went with this request, that we just need to change the bad ones to good ones, we good ones came to the office and now everything will work, they sit in their chairs, and it turns out that... they don't work, that the institutions have long since rotted, that the president can really influence little with his decrees, and in general the problem is that it is necessary to create a system

from scratch, nor was there a particular request for this creation, because they went with other slogans, because people wanted to hear other slogans, and they received a mandate for something else, and the actual knowledge and competences among those who came, what is public administration, public administration, what is politics actually? the phenomenon of politics, etc., this is for many a chinese diploma, these are people who did not have a sufficient level of competence, even for in order to understand what issues he is facing, some of them, far from all, but a significant part, and in general, and accordingly we have a situation in which at the moment we cannot say that we just need to take something somewhere to replace or repair something, we need to reinvent independent ukraine, its institution. especially now, during the war with the same customs , an absolutely good example was given, and the problem is not that a team of rascals came, who hacked the customs and are sitting

on schemes. the problem is that the customs itself never worked in the public interest during the time of independence in ukraine, that is , the problem is not that they found some loophole and hacked it, but the problem is that the system itself is built in such a way that it is not viable to work transparently and. .. and in the interests of the state and society, and not in the interests of individual powerful people, leaders, political leadership, simply directing money, pumping it into their pockets, it needs to be reinvented, and the request was to change the elites, the request was to change the bad ones to good ones, but in the end we are now and we have the results of this, i hope that the next request in the elections in society will still be for more meaningful things than just changing surnames and that... to elect nounames, as we saw it in the parliament, to replace the old ones, because they don't like old people. thank you, mr. oleg, mr. oleksiy, you have seen all the midterm elections that

took place in ukraine, and mr. oleg says that it is possible that the next elections will be completely different, and there will be no such request, and people will not vote for those who were voted for in 2019, i understand how you are do you think so? and voters have changed, have voters changed, well, especially in the last two years, will they, after the end of the russian-ukrainian war, vote for the same zelensky again, they will say, well, in principle, he worked well for 5 years, why should n't he work for another 5 years , well, in fact , during the entire history of ukrainian independence, a request for content, a request for programs, a request for professional teams, especially... especially there was no such request, but i even remember at one time there was a political party called ukraine, her called the party of lawyers, because

80% of the first 20 or 30-year-old candidates were candidates for doctors of legal sciences, and even they positioned themselves as a team that can and will write high-quality laws in the parliament, so this team did not have enough votes to it's time to overcome three percent... electoral barriers, because there is always a demand for a beautiful cover, for something that shines, er, people always pay attention no longer to the content, to who jokes, who dresses , who is braver, who is more beautiful, all things, and here, by the way, the ukrainian voter is not special, such carnival approaches to politics, they are typical for both europe and the united states, it is a disease that affects the whole world. by the way, traditional slavery, will there be, will there be a way out? i think, i think that there will definitely be a change in the position of the voters, because the campaign that we got in

2019 and later in the 20th year, the parliamentary campaign, well, actually, in my opinion, these are the least meaningful campaigns in the whole period of ukrainian independence, please remember what i promised president zelenskyi in the 19th year. he promised a country of dreams, but now i can even quote this program, because it said that i dream that there is an advertisement posted in poland looking for a job in ukraine. you know, this program reminded me of another program when, in the early 2000s, one of the political parties went to the elections, where instead of an election program, they officially registered with the cec the poem "volodymyr sosyura, love ukraine, love ukraine, openly cherry-pick your ukraine" ". this was the election program and volodymyr's team zelensky repeated exactly the same thing. and so i think there has to be a voter response. next election, please.

the program, clear promises, the first 20 draft laws, the first 50 points, the vision of strategic reforms, the vision of euro-atlantic integration, these are key issues, how he jokes, how he dresses and what he says, this is secondary. thank you, mr. oleksiy, we have to conclude, oleksiy koshel and oleg sahakyan were guests of our program today. thank you, gentlemen, for participating in the program. on this broadcast, we conducted a survey and asked you about whether it is necessary to strengthen responsibility for violation of the curfew. let's look at the final results of the television survey on the screen: 83% yes, 17% - no. this is the end of it, friends, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your loved ones, see you tomorrow at 20:00, goodbye.

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