the greek region has a draft of the relevant resolution of the government of the russian federation, and this draft was prepared by the ministry of defense of russia, as it is believed in sweden, the master of the kremlin plans to gain control over the island of gotland, which, in order to control the baltic sea itself, this island is located in the middle of this baltic sea, and the one who controls gotland, the one... what the commander-in-chief of the swedish armed forces, mikael büden, said in an interview with r&d. yes, i am sure that putin even has both eyes on gotland. putin's goal is to gain control of the baltic by sea, he probably also set his sights on the åland islands. the russians closely monitor what is happening at the entrances and exits to the baltic sea. well, here is the baltic sea, it... has always been of interest to russians and even in

distant times, in stalin's time, stalin quite often spoke about the fact that the main thing is the baltic sea, the black sea - there is something, not something unclear, but this is the main baltic the sea, from there we can repel the british and all europeans, as far as these plans, which are talked about in sweden and in general in the western europe regarding intentions. putin about the baltic sea, to what extent can they be implemented by putin, given that both sweden and finland are still members of the north atlantic alliance? well, in general , the entry of finland and sweden into nato was a strategic defeat for the russian federation, since the russian federation is actually limited in its maneuverability in the baltic sea, as well as finland, which borders the polish peninsula. actually provides additional

opportunities for the nuclear deterrence of the russian federation, since it is on the kola there is a nuclear flak on the peninsula, which hurts primarily the united states, and now russia is somehow trying to provoke nato, to show that it is reliable, that there is no consensus, because once again ulaf scholz will appear and say that it is not worth starting the third world war and destroy the world, but i think we need to see more. widely on the map and do not separate the baltic sea from the northern seas, from the northern sea route, which is the so- called signature project, i.e. such mr. putin's favorite project, well, the same goes for the black sea, because what is happening, for example, in the black sea in the 14th year, was worked out there, certain approaches are being worked out, which are then applied in other seas, and actually... that's why it's very important , so that

nato and our other partners respond adequately to what is happening in the baltic sea, but in the black sea and in the northern seas, only in this way can the implementation of the general strategy of the russian federation to expand and expand its influence be stopped, most importantly under on undermining the unity of nato exercises. regarding the fifth article of the washington treaty, this is not, is not, you know, a question. automatism, it is a matter of consensus among the members, if even a few nato members, or one, are not ready to go and defend every inch of the national territory, it will mean that in fact this whole structure does not work, and the russian federation has also been defeated, so we will to hope for an adequate reaction, the reaction of the finns was very restrained, they said... they said that they

are examining the situation, keeping it under control, the russian federation did not contact with any requests for border revisions, and of course they will be looking at how russia will proceed. mr. oleksandr, one more important question is, in the context of these russian encroachments on part of the baltic sea, whether in this situation ukraine could help nato countries with its naval forces. well , the question immediately arises as to how ukraine can integrate into the north atlantic alliance, use its experience of fighting in the black sea with the russian invaders, whether such use is even permissible and whether it can be? well, you you know, this is absolutely correct, the correct direction of thought, since we are in a de facto, that is , in a legal state of war with the russian federation, this means. and the means and forces

of the russian federation could be a target, a legitimate target for an attack on ukraine. we remember perfectly how recently. there was information that our special services worked very well in sudan, and actually destroyed there the russian employees of the russian central intelligence agency, and it is clear that we can act in other places, it is clear that in order to act in in the baltic sea, we have to do this in cooperation, or at least with the permission of our partners, we cannot violate the airspace of our... partners who help us, especially in the kyiv countries, or poland, you can of course try to strike through the territory of the russian federation, but of course, this option is embedded with pro systems and other things, i understand

that we do not have such a large number with a large radius, the same can be said about naval drones, they must somehow be sent to the baltic sea. but in principle it seems to me to do correctly and it would be an additional contribution of ukraine to the security of the european continent. you know, when we rejoice that another russian trough is sent to the black sea, it is not only the joy of ukrainians, it means that fewer platforms of seeds, calibers or other weapons destroy ukrainian ones. this is also our contribution to european security, since these stools... they were designed from the very beginning as a means of terror, as a means of intimidating our european partners, and therefore it seems to me that such cooperation of ukraine with the baltic states would be in the interests of both of the baltic states, as well as in europe in general. mr. oleksandr, thank you for

participating in the program, it was oleksandr hara, a diplomat, and i remind friends that we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms, please subscribe to our pages and also take part in our survey, today we ask you this, should the responsibility for breaking the curfew be increased? yes, no, it's pretty easy on youtube if you have your own please leave your opinion in the comments under this video, and if you watch us on tv, take your expensive smartphone or phone and vote if you think that responsibility for curfew violations should be increased 0.800 200 11 381 no 0800 211 382 i would like to introduce our next guest, this is igor reiterovych, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development, mr. igor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, congratulations,

mr. igor, let's start with information, which has been quite actively discussed over the past two days, and... the situation that has developed in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, that is , european solidarity yesterday blocked the meeting of the verkhovna rada, demanding consideration of two issues, the creation of a temporary investigative commission on the fortification and provision of the armed forces of ukraine and on the consideration in the verkhovna rada the question about the ukrainian orthodox church, or rather, about the moscow churches that work on the territory of ukraine, or? one can perceive this attempt at european solidarity as an attempt to restore the subjectivity of the parliament, when people's deputies demonstrate that they are the very force that shapes the agenda in ukraine,

appoints the government, and accordingly is a sufficiently proactive group that actually gives back. this is the subjectivity that i am asking you about, look, this story, strangely enough, it is so, you know, ambivalent, on the one hand, it is certainly an attempt to remind about a certain subjectivity, that is, there are representatives of the opposition who publicly for several days, at least before that, they demanded consideration of certain issues, and these issues, they are extremely urgent, especially the issue that is connected, for example, with the construction of fortifications in ukraine, but since they did not see any adequate reaction from the side. uh, well, monomajorities, they resorted to uh, such a mechanism, such a tool, which is used quite often in various parliaments in the world in general, that is, it is not only about the ukrainian parliament, in this way the opposition can draw attention to a certain issue, well and try to force,

for example, the pro-government majority there to bring it up for consideration there. on the other hand, why me valentne told you, these events are essentially a statement. the long parliamentary crisis that we have today, as we see that the monomajority, it rarely votes for any serious issues recently. sometimes, and if they vote, it requires very serious parliamentary mobilization, and why is it extremely rare, because they simply do not have enough votes, that is, they have a certain problem, and apparently they do not coordinate these issues with the office of the president, because everyone perfectly understands that today's decision is for the monomajority is definitely accepted at the bank, and this is an attempt to attract attention that was criticized there, i know the representatives of the monomajority, but they are not very right, because they do not have the right to take away from their colleagues the opportunity to express their position. on one or another issue, especially if these issues are related to national security and defense, then this attempt, well, it

showed that, in fact, the parliament as a whole should think about what is happening and what is the society's attitude towards the supreme council, unfortunately, the verkhovna rada on today, it is the absolute leader in terms of the rate of decline of trust in it, if compared with other state institutions in the country, and the second point, well, for the monomajority it could become... a chance to consider some things there without looking at the bank itself, but judging by what we have seen and judging by the statements made by the speaker today, she is not going to do that, so the issues with subjectivity remain, the issues are very serious, the opposition, i am convinced , will still try to somehow change this situation , but objectively, they simply do not have enough strength for this yet, because according to tradition, and if you look at the entire previous history of ukrainian parliamentarism, certain changes have occurred since the time when some rational core or some constructive group actually appeared in

the pro-government of the majority, when it started somewhere to jointly vote with the opposition for certain decisions, unfortunately i have not yet seen such a group, with a few exceptions, those who are conscious deputies in a monomajority, they cannot create a numerical advantage so far, perhaps the situation will change it will change when the overwhelming majority of people's elected representatives, including the monomajority, will understand that they have a way to disappear altogether. or they will remember that they are people's deputies, and they can consider some decisions themselves, and not by coordinating them exclusively there, well, with the cabinet of ministers, that would be a good story, and not by coordinating with the office of the president, well, the cabinet of ministers they are appointed and can in principle introduce some kind of discussion on equal terms, and the office of the president in this situation is not that a subject who can indicate something in the verkhovna rada of ukraine. may 22. er, the rada did vote for the creation of a temporary investigative commission, a special, or rather

commission, on the arrangement of fortifications and the purchase of drones, but the issue of the bill banning the moscow patriarchate in ukraine was never put to a vote, ruslan stefanchuk, speaker the parliament says that this law must be passed without violations, so that later there is no possibility to cancel it through the constitutional court, listen. what he said chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, what our shouters instigated yesterday is a direct violation of regulatory norms, and i, as a lawyer, will tell you that this is a direct reason for the further cancellation of this law in the constitutional court of ukraine. that is why my colleagues and i gathered yesterday and discussed a very clear order. we need to see that there is the necessary number of votes in the hall, as soon as these signatures are collected, this bill will be immediately introduced into

the hall. mr. igor, is this caution of stefanchuk motivated in the matter of by the moscow church, because this issue has been discussed and debated for so long , and it is clear that the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate has a choice either to go to the light side, or to remain on... the dark side, and the parliament can push the uoc-mp before this, but it does not do this, what is the motivation for this caution, that the constitutional court can consider any issue or any draft law that has been adopted during the last two years in relation to violations or compliance with regulatory norms, and by the way , i do not know where does the honorable speaker have the confidence that the constitutional court would unequivocally interpret this... not in favor of the law that would be adopted, but maybe the constitutional court would, on the contrary, say that there are no questions, and

it corresponds to the constitution and should actually be implemented in practice , but in this statement we saw how mr. stefanchuk, you know, is fighting two, well, two of his dishes, on the one hand, purely as a speaker, as a person who is the head of the supreme council, a certain caution of his, she understood, he wants, to make sure there is a guarantee. that this law will it was voted that all deputies will be present there in the session hall, that there will not be any, well there will not be any violations, possible procedural appeals there and so on, it is possible here. to understand, because the law is really important enough and so on, but you understand, his legal opinion is completely covered by the political one, he stated with this statement that we just listened to, that the monomajority de facto restores, refuses to support this law, i.e. there is no required number of votes through the position of the monomajority, which should, in theory

, be the initiator and which should move this law to... introduce it to its logical conclusion, because the opposition, which advocates, well, it is simply not physically enough, let's not forget, there are a couple of deputies groups, there are former opzhniks, on the contrary, they will vote against it, i do not rule out that if when, or rather not if, when this draft law comes to consideration, well, we will see, they will also rush to block the rostrum there, they already there will be nothing to lose and they will try to take advantage of this moment, but in fact what did the speaker state? that it is the majority, she doesn't want to, i'm not saying, she can't, she can, they have enough votes, she doesn't want to consider this bill, and that's why he, on the one hand, is a speaker who is not related to a certain political force , but de facto has, we all understand this very well, he will look for as much as necessary, or as much as he can, some procedural points in order to prevent this bill from being brought up for

consideration in the session hall, i do not see now on a great pity, the political will, both in... the parliament, and including in the president's office, in order to bring this law to its logical conclusion, although it seems to me that after that story with the american lobbyists that this moscow church hired in ukraine, with the help of certain oligarchs, the decision had to be made instantly, and the verkhovna rada itself had to demonstrate its subjectivity just then, because it was undisguised pressure, and the pressure is very manipulative, with direct interference in... the affairs of ukraine, but i, well, i remember that there was a corresponding appeal, there was a meeting of the committee, but that's all, but the best answer would be to really consider this law, vote for it, then, well, who would apply to the constitutional court, so the constitutional court would consider it, for how long, well, everything would depend on how and how quickly this submission would be submitted, or maybe it would be such that

nothing would be brought to a logical conclusion, there was no appeal actually, that is why the absence political will. including the leadership of the verkhovna rada, to a great extent unfortunately, consideration of this really important law is currently blocked, well , it leaves us in such an elevated state, when we have uh, well, i won’t say directly russian agents there, although judging by the cases opened regularly by the sbu, which concern precisely the priests of the moscow patriarchate, they are engaged in purely agent affairs, but from the point of view of a certain such leader of some narratives that the aggressor country uses against us. well, you too. you are right, mr. igor, that the constitutional court is just that the constitutional court of ukraine, and it should proceed from the interests of the state interests of the ukrainian state, and from the point of view of national security and defense, that is , during a war, imagine that the constitutional court will make an illegal decision that will contradict the concept of national security and

defense, or well let's say so, then it will contradict. because of what we are doing, defending ourselves from russia, it would be very strange, but in this situation, in your opinion, who are they for, whose political responsibility is it that the moscow church is still working in ukraine? i think so formally, of course, it is primarily a monomajority, because they have the necessary number of votes to vote for it, i think that to a certain extent political responsibility, well, let's be honest, it is possible somewhere under the president of ukraine, in which sensei? i understand very well that... he has more important tasks, he deals with these issues, defense, diplomacy, aid and so on, but, you know, if he would address the verkhovna rada during his regular evening address, as he is did on some issues, and i would simply say that dear deputies, i expect, the entire ukrainian people expect that you will eventually

bring to a logical conclusion, well, for example, such a story that concerns, well, not even a ban... uoc, mp, this is an important point, that's what this law is called, it's not even called a draft law, it 's about other specific points, but if you bring this legislative story to a logical conclusion, then i think that then the political will would quickly would appear to the mind of the majority, but since this issue is at the central level, it is not rises, the president does not mention him, he is not mentioned by other people who are actually responsible for these areas of state policy in the president's offices, the monomajority , well... ignores this issue, because it does not want to take on this political responsibility, if there was a certain group, the people's deputies i mentioned, who would proceed from the point of view of national interests, the subjectivity of the parliament, i think that they could long ago come to an agreement with the opposition, collect the necessary number of signatures, votes, and so on further, and then b even stepanchuk, well, formally, there would be no reason not to actually bring this law

to the session hall for consideration, but since there is no such opening, no one wants to take on this political responsibility, the question was raised, and well, i do not want to sound too pessimistic, but something tells me that it will hang for quite a long time, and it will be postponed as much as possible for later, closing it with some other issues, well, more on... maybe from the point of view of the country's defense. so far, mr. igor, it has not been postponed then the mobilization process in ukraine, and the updated system, and the registration of conscripts, and the mobilization procedure, and the notification of the mobilized, as of may 18, 2024, changes to the law on mobilization came into force, is there already a reserve plus application? the queues of shopping malls are lined up, the participation in military actions is already allowed for convicts, 300 convicts have already submitted applications for conditional early release to participate in

the defense of ukraine, deputy minister of justice olena vysotska reported about this, which are the first conclusions that can be drawn from the change of order accounting and the order of mobilization in ukraine, will everything be as planned, or? it is quite clear what will happen next and whether the steps that were adopted by the verkhovna rada, and now also being implemented by separate resolutions of the cabinet of ministers, are motivated, you know, i have a personal impression, because i, like everyone else, probably most men took part there all applications, updating data and so on, my first impression is that it is very simple, even banal, which could not have been done much earlier, that is, back there from 22... year, in fact, nothing so terrible is happening there so far, there is a certain updating of data, it is clear that there are certain failures in the system, there are queues and so on, but there is a sufficiently prompt response, an electronic queue,

the possibility to receive there, for example, a referral to the tezhvk in electronic format and so on, that is, so far i see, what i see in the first days, there is a certain attempt to stimulate more, to stimulate more, after all, not with a whip, to a certain extent, you know, with a gingerbread man, but it is possible. if there were to turn to some ethical standards, yes, for that the citizens of ukraine, well, first of all , do what is necessary themselves, without any coercion, on the other hand, i think, in principle, i have talked about this more than once, it would be desirable with the start of this law on the 18th numbers, his actions, to remove any street so-called mobilization, well, at least for a certain period of time, namely for these two months, when this data is being updated there, because it creates such a nervous atmosphere for now. well, there are still many questions that it is not known how they will turn out to be decided, here we need to communicate more actively, to explain, including using the examples of some specific cases, and

in the end, you know, so far i have only heard from business representatives and economists, this is a strange story, but i only mainly heard approximates from them numbers, how many people we need to mobilize, it seems to me that the military-political leadership should at least voice it roughly, of course, we don't need direct details. to name numbers, but in the modern world to hide them, for example, from the same russia, we are unlikely to be able to do this, but understanding this number, it seems to me, well, it would also significantly affect society, because at least society would clearly understand who it might affect first of all, how many people can really be mobilized there, in what way it will happen, so continue , but to improve communication and minimize any repressive measures that are in place so far, because they still seem to me to do more harm than good... well, for this mobilization to take place effectively. thank you, mr. igor, for the conversation, it was igor reiterovich, political scientist, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development.

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