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oleksandr, good day, congratulations, glory to ukraine, good day, glory, let's start with this topic, which everyone discusses under the sauce of turning off the lights, inconvenient, uncomfortable, the air conditioner, sometimes it is not possible to turn it on, but let's look at it from the other side, when there is a shutdown for industry, for that industry, which works on the front, then it is all much more serious and complicated. how can these unlocks now slow down the process of supplying weapons to the front line, and do they have as much importance as we now assume? well , first of all, the issue of power cuts is not about comfort at all, many people do not understand that after all, there is a war in the country, and it is not a question of comfort at all, it is a question of the life of measures to prevent the enemy's influence on our critical infrastructures, including supplies. of electricity, it so happened that in

we are quite normal in this country, everything felt normal before the war, we lived and built critical infrastructure, that is, we have a centralized power supply system, everyone knows ours, mr. oleksandr, i am very sorry, we will leave this issue relevant, just a very bad digital undermining of connection, we will try to rearrange it now, because these are important things that need to be heard, unfortunately, it is very difficult to understand, why are we from this side. oksana and i take a look, the new york times even writes about it, yes, because we usually measure everything by those inconveniences that i didn't have time to load the washing machine, vacuum it, and in general i need an air conditioner, because you promise +30 here, that's what quite a lot of people are now measuring in the rear, this shortage of electricity, which will persist. ukrenergo warned that the deficit, unfortunately, is greater than the possibility of solar power generation. blocking all

the needs, actually cutting off the electricity, this is the last step, the last thing that energy companies resort to. to somehow see the gaps, and now let's measure your question at least on the example of the capital, yesterday the deputy of the small parliament of the yemets metropolitan council, he was just speaking, he says that kyiv is preparing for a shortage, when blackouts in winter can last up to a week, there are also defense industrialists in kyiv, that is exactly what we are asking oleksandr dmitriy about, mr. oleksandr, we hope now the sound will be good, so... resumption of production and shortage of electricity, how does it affect? look, of course, this primarily affects in the way that many businesses have to get their own or buy their own generating plants, simply put, generators, of course, the cost of

production increases, but at the same time there is a diversification of the risk of disconnection from the centralized power supply system, such as blackout and the more... the sooner the industry is restructured to alternative, let's say, sources of electricity, it is meant, own generating plants, someone, well, the majority take powerful generators, those enterprises that can afford it, because the cost of a kilowatt from a generating plant is much higher than from a central power supply system, someone there for solar electricity, but there are also industries that consume too much electricity, of course already here. the issue of state support of the state so that they are not disconnected from being launched through reserve lines or from reserve sources of the general network, but i want to emphasize that this is not a matter of discomfort, nothing is unknown there, it is war, and in war, the enemy finds our

vulnerabilities, what the sooner we adapt, the sooner we rebuild, the less it will affect us, yes, mr. oleksandr, we know that you are actually an advisor on... issues unmanned systems, against this background there are scandals with defense facilities and funds in the kharkiv region, now there is a special parliamentary commission, and as the deputies told us when they contacted us, oh, i think we lost, no, no, there is a connection, only the picture has turned around, yes, so two key issues will be considered by a special, temporary special commission of the parliament, these are defense structures and... as they said, unmanned systems, i.e. drones, maybe you can tell us, maybe you know more, what then , questions in all these programs, we have an army of drones drones are working, there are many different projects, why

did it suddenly become a question of a special commission of the parliament, so i got back in touch, mr. oleksandr, so what are they going to investigate the parliamentarians on drones? well , look, control, any control, it's not a bad thing, it's finding out the realities that have been going on, because we have, well, let's say, society is irritated by what's going on, or indeed there is some inefficiency in the use of public funds, and any investigative measures, in my opinion, is to find out if it actually happened, if happened, then how to prevent this in the future, i think it is better that... communicates after the investigation takes place, the commission itself, in my opinion, there are very few unmotivated people today who have remained to work for our victory, they become the further, the less, but there are definitely some possible situations that

worsen our condition, maybe even saboteurs, who knows what this commission is investigating, but i am sure that there will be a normal objective assessment, ugh, mr. oleksandr , a little in the other direction, because we they talked about drones, we are talking about electricity, the military says, they do not connect it with any kind of sabotage, but the fact remains that for some time, at least a week, something with communication at the front, we remember when 10 in may , the russian operation began in the kharkiv direction , there was halepa with starink, they say that the same story continues. and some say that maybe the russians, others say that maybe there is something hidden somewhere, others say that there were very strong flares in the sun, in fact the most powerful in decades, and this could also have an effect, do you know anything about that, well, i'm certainly

the first to know that there are any problems because communications is a critical infrastructure for our military, certainly because of the... there were outbreaks, i talked to experts on radio communication, it really happens, in certain bands there was noise that communication could not take place in principle. the second issue is that in the frequencies in which starling operates, they are quite high, and the effect on these frequencies was not even investigated, the fact that there were communication problems is a fact, that they are eliminated and now everything is working, it is also a fact, will there be further, will it be the influence of the russians, will it be the influence, well, i am not sure that it is the influence of musk, it is more likely, after all, the circumstances are connected with the obstacles in outbreak, well at least to this... everyone is inclined to whether

the russians will continue to influence or try to influence, well, of course, we are at war, they find means to hinder us in our capabilities, and for this we need the combat capacity of our troops , when there is no communication, well, communication is generally as critical as shells, without communication no army is at war, and i will ask you as a specialist, in fact four states on... are suffering from the fact that the fesbshniks from koningsberg, which they call the kaliningrad region, are beating with rebs, creating obstacles in navigation, including for civil aviation , you've seen these stories in the north of poland and so on, what kind of cool thing is that they have that nato can't fight back and they attack like that with rifles, well , look, radio electronic warfare is not so unknown. which is like a magic wand, these are certain physical properties

elements, these are means, these are technical means that can make banal noise, occupying the opportunity of this or that frequency, to listen to their signals there, for example, they made noise there in the 430 mhz range and to a certain power, here is a question of power, and to a certain diameter this frequency will be occupied for any cases... for example, the same alarms, many people have even experienced this in domestic conditions, when the alarm key fob near the television does not work, where some serious generator of electric waves is working, that is, it is banal noise of the range , it's a pity which can be used, implemented exclusively at the expense of a powerful source, yes, but i mean to counteract, it is impossible to counteract it, because it is elementary. physics except how to take and slap and destroy the very source of radiation or how, what does it look like? completely

you all, only. mr. oleksandr, and i’m still here, because we started talking about the rebs, and i wanted to ask about such smaller ones, we understand that the struggle of the rebs, who is more inventive, who will arrange where, it continues, we already showed this footage today, we will show once again, where is the russian man for himself straight to the point. i touched on it, and i want to ask you how much it is in general, how it affects the territory where the hostilities are taking place, if everyone starts to touch like that now, then those guys will start killing each other there among themselves, but no, in general, how is it it works, it’s just, well, now we’ll show these photos, well, an individual rap on the head, so that’s it, a person decided to protect himself, well, let’s put it this way, ingenuity to... happens differently, including such a funny, actually, question not whether it's in his head or somewhere, the question is

what is the power of this means of electronic warfare, if a drone flies at it at a certain speed from a height of 50-100 m, having already aimed at it, this helmet will not help him, the question is, if he puts a power of 50 w there, then i think because for a certain time he will simply beat his brains with such power on his head, no, well, we wish them to... at maximum power, so that what is still stored under that helmet, and everything else - for a second i will return to the fact that, as they say, it did not happen treasonous treason, we were told about the large number and scaling of the production of various types of drones, reconnaissance, strike, and so on, how do you assess how well the words match the processes? do you mean the scaling of our production or so here's an army of drones, a million drones by the end of the year,

we heard all this from politicians, but we want a professional analysis from you, to what extent the words do not differ from the action, we have really increased production very much, in we have really increased the number of productions, in we are now really increasing the manufacturability of these products, i really hope that in terms of quantity we have. in the near future , attention will also be paid very much to qualitative indicators, because this is efficiency, because the enemy quickly adapts to our means, including communication, communication, and so on. and i would really like our manufacturers to be financed by our partners, because today ukraine is, without exaggeration , the mecca of unmanned military systems, because everything that can now be quickly tested at the front can only be done in ukraine, because

a modern war, a big war is taking place in our country, accordingly, our manufacturers are in a certain profit from this, although it is not very much... such really cool conditions that there is a war, but technologically they adapt to changes on the front faster. accordingly, the question of the resource, how much can we allocate for the purchase of these drones, there is a lot of it, it would be good if we had an even greater advantage over the enemy, technological and caught up with him in terms of quantity, because to be honest, the russians have the resource, but as financial, so and human more than ours, therefore ours the advantage can only be technological. thank you sir. oleksandr, oleksandr dmitriev, adviser to the command of the ground forces on unmanned systems and the coordinator of the ochi project was with us, and we already have the next contact, the next guest at our contact, vitaly kotsenko, head of the carriers of the western region, mr. vitaly , glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, and we will talk with you about the situation, how critical or non-critical it is recently, because in

social networks they especially spread treason that oh... aleppo, there is no one to drive, there is no one to drive cars, and to transport other goods, because here are the new rules of mobilization, and on the other hand , we know that there are many people who can drive despite the mobilization, there are many women, who are not conscripted, who are learning to drive and can do work that used to involve male drivers, we want to hear your point of view. yes, good day, studio, good day tv viewers, my point of view and that of my colleagues is obvious, there are facts and you can go to the website of the electronic queue, yes the so-called e-queue and see that today, there are practically no cars for crossing the western borders of european states, drivers

are afraid to drive, drivers are frightened, importers, exporters are in despair. shocked by this situation, we were faced with the fact of this mobilization without such a more urgent warning, and i call it a banal, banal safari on people, i won't call it any other way, i want to ask where is the recruitment, where is the motivation, where is the justice, and where is the understanding of all this, unfortunately, we cannot answer to get us, on may 19, the spokesman for the border guards e-e allowed us to travel for another two months without registration, then, as they say, god willing, this is the norm of the law up to 60 days to update the data and here and here

it did not depend on him, yes it is written in the law, mr. vitali, what about you, you are in fact in despair, you? how many of the drivers, truck drivers, for example, from you, have recently been mobilized, as they say, directly from the cab, are these isolated cases or are they mass? no, these are isolated cases, from what i've heard, they are not en masse, but massive checks are underway, and many drivers, who are wanted, have received summonses without them. it is known without a signature, who arrived at the address, and they are now wanted in the base, and they will be removed from the flights, so, as it is set before the fact, at the borders of the tsc will remove these drivers from the flights and take them to the hunting grounds, but they can update their

data and not every one of them will end up in the lkk and not every one of them will receive a summons, well... indeed, it is so in words, but in reality it does not happen like that, everything is very strict there, yes, as i called it, this is a real banal safari, just for people, if they already go to pass the vlk, then almost 90% of the drivers do not leave there anymore, once, but is there an alternative actually, in particular about what i mentioned, i know that when when it comes to the transportation of vehicles for the needs of the military, women often report from the beginning of the war, and now i know that there are even special... courses for women, female drivers who learn to drive not just cars, trucks and so on, they already drive trucks calmly , have you heard of such cases actually? can it be alternative? of course, this can be an alternative, our girls are capable of this, and it is possible, but this, for a certain period

, there will be a pause in studies, passing practice, and everything, you know, driving a car and driving a truck, we are not very good at it adapted infrastructure specifically for this in ukraine, if it is easier to do it in europe. state, then in ukraine you need a little more experience for this, as in loading, unloading, at the entrances to customs, at exits and so on, some kind of culture on the road, it is a little in we are limping on this matter, so women are more careful, and it will set a little different rhythm, of course it is possible, and it is an alternative, but here it is necessary, i think, at least six months to ... launch this project, mr. vitaly , look, you are a public organization, transporters for the western region, you are a force, because you are an organization, the organization can collectively

appeal to the government of a warring country, because we understand that there is simply no alternative to mobilization, well, there will either be mobilization or capitulation, but there are so-called different formulas armor, which is for critically important areas of the economy. and logistics is our everything, especially in the conditions of martial law, then in this case, have you applied, or will you apply, to have a certain percentage of armor made for you, because after all those scandals with various heads and clowns from the circus, i think that they will react sensitively enough to really important things, for example , there is such a reservation for the energy sector, for railway workers, have you applied, and if not, will you? yes. of course, we have several public organizations, associations, we applied and did working groups met, talked, presented

facts, everyone perfectly understands this situation, but no one can do anything against mobilization, we understand the situation in the war, i just returned from the east, where i traveled almost the entire front from pokrovsk to kharkiv, and there very critical. i have never been disappointed in my trips since the first days of the war in the volunteer direction, and now there is a very critical situation there, there are guys who have been out of service for two years, without without rotation, yes they are too, one minute is important, yes do they give you a reservation for carriers for drivers or not, look, it doesn't work, they want to give us this reservation and they said that it is available, but it doesn't work. yes, as they said, it is not an easy path, and first of all it is necessary that our activity be recognized as critically important, for this we need a lot of paperwork, a lot

of time, consideration, so i think that there will be some kind of clarification during these two months, at least until the end of june, so that we understand where we should go next, 15 seconds, literally, how many percent of your carrier association it is necessary to save, reserve... the next six months, so that everything functions 30-50% more, 50 is not enough, 50 is not enough, at least 90 is needed, in order for everything to be delivered, everything to be driven and everything to work, like the economy, as well as strategic cargoes, thank you, vitaly kotsenko, head of the public organization transporters for the western region, well, common sense should be there, logistics and transportation are key, because we depend as much as possible on our partners in everything, on... products and to arms, while we were talking, the marshal of the senate came to kyiv poland, she was already met at the station, the deputy speaker of the verkhovna rada,

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