we don't have many options, so this, this system is electro, system, yes, some kind of database, it has the right to life and it has to be empowered by law to communicate with our men directly, medical restrictions, reservations, reservations for enterprises, all this can grow into what can... grow and must grow reserve plus. a number of issues can be digitized in the process of developing this system. as for the development of automated systems on the battlefield, i repeatedly repeated on the air that war of the future, the war of the present is a war of robots, and we can win the war in the russian federation only by having a technological advantage. your previous story about atakam is just for it. the proof that i am right,

we already have this technological advantage, in particular in ground drones, in certain types, strategic and operational drones, there are entire data transmission systems, the creation of false targets, electromagnetic targets, i think that ukrainian missile weapons are also in particular the neptune project, it has unique opportunities for its development and scaling, i think that it is with by acquiring such a capability, we will save the lives of our military and win this war. mr. pavle, at the same time, one often hears about the fact that too much paper reporting falls on commanders of various levels, the impression is that this paper reporting is getting bigger and bigger, how to deal with it, like this... a step away from paper reporting

army to go digital and how to avoid this paper component in the life of our armed forces? well, paperwork is also an element of trust, why don't they want to leave it, because they don't trust it. i think that with the appearance, with digitization of this process, with the appearance of even a small electronic signature and a corresponding protected gadget in every commander, such technologies in the ukrainian army. yes, i think that we will simplify this process as much as possible to three clicks from the platoon commander, four or five clicks for an answer from the company commander, the write-off processes really need improvement, i am grateful to the ministry of defense that they have already adopted such an order for simplification, the only thing is that you need to immediately review the amounts, because the amounts are indicated, they are somehow too small, because the company commander cannot more than... 100,000 uah of property should be written off, i

remind you that a night sight costs more than 100 uah, and it is actually a consumable for an infantry commander, so these amounts must be reviewed, the control procedures, in particular the dbr and nabu, must be simplified, they too have to see online these processes that happen with military property, and i think that such databases will be... implemented by september of this year, and this process of paper work will go into electronic form, if the army does not cope with it, should be invited new mail managers to unify this process. and finally, i would like to ask about our new weapons, because during the week i have repeatedly heard the thesis that the ministry of defense has returned to its old ways while talking to directors of various enterprises. in the process of testing and

acceptance of armaments and provision and supply for armaments, don't you feel that in fact more energy is needed again in these processes, so that the dialogue with industrialists is faster, more rational, more effective, to be honest, no, because i today i even went to the tests and my supervisors are currently on the tests, this... new technology is a robot, a ground robot, which can independently destroy targets, i think that today these tests are already final, we will see even today the adoption to arming with new equipment, so it is premature to talk about it, if anyone does not have the contacts of the relevant military administration bodies, contact me, i will tell everyone, i do not see any obstacles in our commune...

these are no obstacles, today the ministry and the general staff do everything that depends on them so that these processes take place as quickly as possible, it is another matter, what is the legislative example. is limited, in particular, financial legislation limits the possibilities to conclude long-term contracts, so we will insist on this, so that the manufacturer has the opportunity to conclude three- to five-year, perhaps even ten-year contracts for the production of this or that equipment and military weapons. mr. pavle, thank you for the explanation, for being on our air and for what you are doing to accelerate techno. dramatic changes in our armed forces. let me remind you that it was palo kishkar, lieutenant colonel, senior officer of the ground forces command. these were the main military results of this day, and more international and economic news later on vasyl zima's big broadcast. so stay tuned to espresso. thanks to serhiy zgurets, thanks to his

guests for this conversation, thanks for this information. let's continue the great etr continues and now we will collect for the repair of armored vehicles, this is what our military asked us to do, and we ask you to contribute with the amounts that are possible for you today, that are available for you today real, so we ask you to join the collection for the repair of heavy armored vehicles in the combat zone in the solodarsk and zaporizhzhia directions, the repair and restoration regiment works mainly on the contact line or in the so-called gray zone, that is, where... neither ours, nor yours, just sky in any weather day and night, so for the emergency recovery and return to the battlefield of damaged military equipment, in particular, we are talking about tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, a minibus is needed to deliver to the combat zone, mobile repair groups and equipment, as

well as pneumohydraulic jacks for prompt repair of ground machinery. our goal remains unchanged at 630 hryvnias, i want to say how much you have already collected. for these needs, well, with our help as an intermediary, you were able to donate uah 334,695 for the needs of the armed forces of ukraine, specifically for this need, we have already crossed the mark of half of the required amount, i think that in the near future we will be able to close this issue, i understand that now almost all residents of our country have financial problems, well, but we understand that for this we should at least... sacrifice what we can, and sometimes what we want. thank you very much in advance. well, now i will add yevhen bilov to the conversation. he is the head of the volunteer organization free kharkiv movement. mr. yevgeny, i congratulate you. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. let's start with

the message that appeared literally one and a half, maybe two hours ago in kharkiv, loud explosions. kharkiv and kharkiv region, another enemy attack, is it known? something about these explosions that sounded already closer to the evening, and yes, i congratulate you, regarding these explosions, i do not have any information yet, because we went there for our volunteer work, so i do not know yet, i do not have information, and then let's move on to what happened, to this tragic story, which happened yesterday, the enemy carried out a terrorist attack on kharkiv, a printing plant was damaged, seven people were killed, 21 were injured, according to the information... that i already found today, and these damages, these destructions that were caused, i am not talking about what people died, this is the biggest a tragedy in this story, but this strike on a card mill in kharkiv reduced the power of the printing press in ukraine, in the whole of ukraine by 40%, almost by half, this is a powerful attack, let's talk about the consequences and also, of course,

maybe there is more information about the dead, the injured , in what condition the injured people are in, and how kharkiv reacted to it, how the city lives. this is from after such, after such another terrible blow, i will remind you just for our viewers, i think you already remember that just a few days ago in kharkiv, in kharkiv oblast, there was a mourning for the twelve dead after an enemy attack on the territory of the region, please, yes, yesterday the enemy pretended, insidiously pretended to attack the territory of kharkiv oblast and kharkiv, according to the typography, there are, today i read statistics about 50, more than 5 thousands of books were destroyed, and this is our ukrainian publishing house, one of the largest in ukraine, and therefore such statistics on the percentage of losses of book production throughout the territory of ukraine, therefore this is another

crime, first of all, which was directed at civilian population of the people of ukraine, kharkiv, and secondly, for cultural, cultural development, cultural development. of ukraine and publishing houses and ukrainian literature, that's why they are terrorists, that's the only way to characterize them, now... the forced evacuation of children from 36 settlements has been announced and i understand that it is already being carried out, if you know about it, which ones at least part of the region is in question, i understand that to some extent it is obvious that we are talking about the northern part of kharkiv region, although again i do not know, and this forced evacuation, how it is implemented, whether the parents remain, how this process generally looks in reality, and again, if we are talking about forced evacuation. or with parents and why there is no forced evacuation of people, do people

still have a choice, well at least those people who are already adults, they have a choice to stay or not to stay, please yes forced evacuation of the front-line zones from the northern northern side of the region, this is the volochany district, this is the lypiv district, this is the tergachiv district, this is... why children, because children they stay there not because of their will, but because of the will of their parents, and sometimes the parents do not want to leave for certain reasons of their own, but we cannot implement the future of our ukraine in this way, if adults can stay there and for some reason not leave their children, then children they take it out, but it is the services that take it out, they do it, not volunteers, only volunteers. help transport them to the places where these children will be and where they receive help and shelter for a certain time,

now, and then when the parents are either able, or if they want to evacuate, they will come and of course they can take their children to the places where they will stay and visit their children, no one takes them for a long, permanent time, only for a certain time, while there is a risk of shelling of these territories, or large-scale shelling of this. all this is taken by the child safety service and all the bodies involved in the care of children. mr. yevhen, i know that in vovchansk, as my colleagues tell me, the evacuation has stopped, what is the situation there. from what i read today, to the defense forces we managed to stop the offensive in kharkiv region, stabilize the front line, but we understand that we are talking about a rather wide one, about a rather long one, i don't know how wide, but about a rather long one. line, but we say, if we talk about specific settlements where there were the most difficult battles, where local

residents died, shot by the enemy, or killed by ammunition drops from drones, other means of defeat there, then again, what is the situation in vovchan, if the evacuation is stopped , because of what, because a few days ago there was information that vovchansk remained 100 people, yes, in ovchanka - this is a very difficult area and very difficult directions where... the evacuation is carried out, it was difficult from the very first day, when offensive actions on the northern territories of the kharkiv region began again, already on the third day there were risks of entering vovchansk, there were already battles in the center, and because of this, volunteers were not allowed to enter vavchansk, only armored police could pick people up, and volunteers could pick them up from the transfer point, that's because of this whole story. and because there were such safe, secure measures,

the volunteers could not take people because there was constant shelling, the russians see it in the drones that monitor the territory, they see that the volunteers are coming, they see that people are evacuating, the civilian population, they see what is written on i don't care about evacuation, children, but still they work in these territories, in these places, for volunteers, for... and because of such a security situation, the evacuation of the vovchan district, more precisely the samochan district, is now stopped, only the police can go there, people , who remain in ovchansk, if they are physically able, they go out at night through other settlements, where volunteers or the police can come to pick them up, where there is not such shelling as in vochansk itself, that's why, i read today how important this is for an aggressor. the direction that, according to british intelligence, even they deployed the so-called african corps there, well, that is, i understand

that these are the military personnel of the former wagner pmc, or the current wagner pmc, or those military personnel who committed their criminal acts on the territory of africa, we understand that these are not ordinary people, returned, as they say, here in europe and are now fighting against kharkiv oblast, what else i wanted to ask, here i am. information that the sbu is investigating a case of overcharging for wood for fortification, fortification constructions in kharkiv oblast, we are talking about a certain firm from dnipro, we will not. now, to analyze this specific case , a commission has been created in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which should investigate whether everything was done so correctly during these fortification works, whether there was some fault, whether there was a possible lack of work, or as they say, done for marking, not to actually stop the enemy, your assessment is generally from what you know, from what you

understand, whether these fortifications played their part as they should, and again to what extent. .. kharkiv is protected today, we understand that the enemy is now stopped at a certain area, but he does not abandon his dreams of moving further to kharkiv, are these works ongoing, are those lines that are already closer to the city sufficiently built, well, again without revealing any secrets that may not be worth telling ethers, but it is important, because this, as we see, is the life of people, and first of all, yes, first of all, what i want to say is that i am a volunteer, i can only observe and i can only talk about what i i see, i see fortifications, they... as far as they are in good condition , only the military can tell, i am not a military person, so i cannot give an expert assessment, i saw them both near kharkiv and in the territory where the battles are going on, how far is it second or the third or first line cannot sit, because it is not military, so our main for, our the main defense is not even fortification,

it is the fighters themselves, the fighters of the armed forces of ukraine and all the services that defend us, so the main... hope is only in them, in their professionalism, in their knowledge and in their skills, so thank you to them for their work and for protecting us, our life, our peace and ukraine. well, i thank you for your volunteer work, it is very important in this difficult situation, especially in kharkiv region. yevhen bilov, the head of the volunteer organization rukh vilniy kharkiv, was in touch with us. they briefly talked about the situation on kharkiv region, once again we will wait for information about this. of the explosion that was heard in kharkiv, information about it appeared at about 5:05 p.m., so, well, maybe we don't know all the details yet, but we will monitor it, and now we will look at the results of the parliamentary week and talk about the key and important decisions that were made, that were not made. mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, is in touch with us. mr. mykola, i congratulate you. congratulations. glad to see and hear. well, since we

were talking about the kharkiv region, then obviously we are let's continue now with the issue of kharkiv oblast, but specifically... about the enemy's terrorist attack on the printing house, i read this information today that because of the attack, it is besides the fact that the most important thing is that people died, because this is the most terrible thing, it is something that cannot be these are irreversible losses, it cannot be changed in any way, unfortunately, people died, seven were killed, 21 were injured, but the russian attack on the printing press reduced the power of the printing press in ukraine by 40%, and here there is no military significance, humanitarian value. sense, why russia does this, and it is deliberate was done? well, i don't know how deliberately done, they just want to destroy this city, and the blows come to peaceful houses as well, but i am inclined to agree with you, because considering the fact that they destroy ukrainian books on the occupied territories, destroy ukrainian libraries,

it is quite natural that they destroyed one of the largest printing and publishing houses in ukraine. this is a barbaric way of fighting against books and those people who make books, it cannot be called otherwise, i show once again that in fact this war is genocidal during the war, the vivat publishing house is a well-known publishing house, the books of the ranok publishing house were also printed there, 50% of ukrainian textbooks, by the way, when the full-scale invasion had just begun, i suggested to some kharkiv publishing houses that we discuss the situation when the verkhovna rada and the cabinet of ministers would be able to ... to help such publishing houses to relocate their production areas to other regions of ukraine, well, they said that they are patriots of kharkiv, they will stay in kharkiv, work as long as possible, although i think it is possible and necessary was to relocate these productions, which are important for our culture and for our education, unfortunately, summing up, i say once again that this is usually barbarism and a struggle with books and with

people who make books, it cannot be called otherwise. it is very important here that, well, first of all... many public figures, bloggers, authoritative people in social networks have started to write , support book publishers, book reviewers, buy books, order books, and the new mail, well, this is not an advertisement here, i will just say, they are ready free delivery of these books the publishing house of this printing house, to those who will order them, ambassadors of foreign countries also joined with a certain support of book printing and the publishing business in ukraine, this is important, it received such publicity, but on the eve of the book arsenal, which will take place soon in kyiv, was burned 50,000 books, and that's of course, well, besides, again, the most important thing is that people died, that's for sure... a very terrible consequence of the fact that the enemy continues to destroy, continues to destroy ukrainian culture, and we will now move on to the work of the supreme councils of ukraine this week, it was both emotional

and, in many ways, obviously effective, in your opinion, more effective or more emotional, what was achieved, what was not achieved in terms of what was important in this particular period? well, it's hard for me to say, i wasn't at all the meetings, i was partly on a business trip that was. connected with the fact that i participated in the celebration of the 80th anniversary of the genocide of the crimean tatar people, quite a lot of crimean tatars live in turkey, there was a huge rally of several thousand people, at which i spoke, where there were crimean tatars, took among other things the ukrainian flag, because he thought that there might be turkish, crimean-tatar flags, and was pleasantly surprised when he saw that these people were all holding ukrainian flags, there were many of them, very many, in the verkhovna rada , in recent days he has already been working in the verkhovna rada, well, as you know, unfortunately, the vote on the law banning the activities of the russian church has not been put on the agenda, and

this is connected with the lobbying of pro-russian deputies, who are also in the ruling party in the servant of the people, and of course, in groups that are created on in the ruins of the former pzh, they are doing everything to ensure that this law is not considered, or to delay its consideration, our faction of european solidarity demanded the creation of commissions of inquiry on the matter. procurement of drones, as a result such a commission was created, my colleague mykhailo bondar from our faction became the secretary of this commission, but the majority, again there are representatives of the ruling party, how objectively they will approach the study of all the complexities of these processes, well, i this is doubtful. there was quite a lot other draft laws that concern the improvement of the judicial system and many others. important things would be bills passed, as always in the verkhovna rada, the fact that these commissions, this one commission, were created, of course, is very good, now it is important that it works, the fact that we

nevertheless raised the issue of voting for the law on the ban of the roc, it is important, unfortunately, they did not achieve that it was voted on this week, i have doubts that it will be voted on next week as well, because the representatives ruling party, where there is a certain pro-russian cell. not all are open-minded people, because there are a lot of true patriotic deputies and the ruling servant of the people party, who , like european solidarity, a voice, a large part of the homeland, trust and for the future , demand that this law be voted, but this minority does everything, to delay consideration of this law, well, this is the important point here, what was emphasized by the chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine stefanchuk, that we must be sure that the appropriate number of votes will be collected from... in order for it not to fail, explain his phrase that it will be a compromise decision, in which there can be a compromise, in terms of the text or in terms of the adoption period,

because in principle, what can be a compromise with, well, with the representatives of the church, whose leadership, well , is it spiritual or is it, i don't know how to call it, patriarch kirill, blesses the war in ukraine, calls it sacred? well, look, the law does not prohibit. one of the ukrainian churches, the law specifically prohibits russian churches, and we know that they operate on the territory of ukraine, for example, on the occupied territories, these churches directly work directly with moscow, are part of the russian church, there are also churches in the unoccupied territories that recognize the supremacy of cyril and are part of his structure, and the law simply insists on breaking these ties, if they are ready to break these ties ties, please, they can do, the problem is that... they don't want to break these ties, their lobbyists in parliament are doing everything to delay this process, they understand that they will not be able to completely cancel it , ago so far they are dragging it out and are engaged

in active lobbying in various countries, in the united states, in europe, distorting the essence of this law, lying, deceiving, saying that there is some pressure on religion or on orthodoxy, which is absolutely pure lies and they are just dragging out time, so in this case it is just delaying time, but as they say that... nothing can stop the idea that the time has come, the time to ban the russian church in ukraine has come a long time ago, and the russian church will definitely be prohibited well, marshalok arrived in ukraine of the polish senate, says vablonska. we know very well that ukraine and poland had a certain tension, well, certain problems, of an economic, trade, customs nature, maybe somewhere of a political nature, and the dialogue is precisely with the polish senate, how important it is, how effectively it affects... continued growth relations between our states, because this is undoubtedly very important, especially given that in the future, for example, poland will preside over the european

union, and this, and this is very important. understand level of support and level of trust and level of dialogue. in addition to the fact that poland will preside over the european union, after these elections to the european parliament, poles will influence european politics in general very actively, in particular the politics of the sp, one of the largest european parties, which essentially has a majority in the european parliament, and tusk's party there will enter, kilonska belongs to his party, is tusk's deputy, is the second person in the polish state. they did everything to unblock the borders, they finally unblocked, i raised the issue at the meeting and noted that the initiative to block the borders from the polish side belonged to the pro-russian confederation party. ursuda von fonderlein directly names the confederation and the german party afd as parties that are under russian influence. mrs. marschalyk completely agreed with me and emphasized that poland is doing everything to reduce these russian influences in order to...

punish all those who try to exert these influences, destabilizing the situation in poland, that poland will do everything to to support ukraine in the future, i also spoke about the need for poland and nato countries to take over the protection of the airspace, at least over the western regions of ukraine, because when the russians hit gas storage facilities, they are trying to threaten not only ukraine, but the economic and generally the security of the european union, the european countries that are used. gas storage, and ms. marschalyk said that she would also raise this issue in poland, as well as her other colleagues who were members of the polish delegation, it was a very warm and very important conversation, it once again shows that in the person of poland we have our reliable ally, who will do everything for our european integration and for integration into nato, and this is exactly what mrs. marshaly kida vablonska said with tribunes of the ukrainian parliament. well, that's the question, maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

is it felt, well, there were facts and certain activities of agents of influence of the russian church on ukraine outside the borders of ukraine, are there such factors of influence, remember, there are letters threats and similar things were sent out, now as much as it is felt by the people's deputies, who actually have to decide the fate of the russian church, well, it is obviously negative to decide in the future, please, it is felt, because the russians invest huge money in pr. spreading fake news about both our bill and what 's going on in ukraine, and it's affecting a lot of people, right now, well, for example, most people are now saying that at the end of june there will be a series of events in ukraine where us senators are supposed to participate and congressmen, let's not consider it until now, so as not to annoy them, but why annoy them, we made a law, which, for example, is even much milder than the law that was adopted in latvia, according to the proposal of the president of latvia,

that the latvian church... has no right to be subject to the latvian orthodox church of russia, and the synod of the latvian church accordingly supported this bill with its vote, the same is happening in estonia, that is, we have to take care of our national security, and they take care of our national threat , and because of that more there are speculations about the rejection of this law, rather than some true things, they are trying to influence the western parliamentarians, but thank god that is not the case. this is our ukrainian business and we are obliged to do this work. thank you so much for joining, thank you for your comments. mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, was in touch with us. thank you. well, in just a moment , i will tell you in detail about the most important news at this hour. good evening, we are from ukraine. reduction of staff in the general the headquarters of the armed forces of ukraine, the number

of personnel in some units and bodies. of the military administration will be reduced by 60%, yevhenii ostryanskyi, the head of the main department of defense planning of the general staff, announced this. this process includes disbanding a number of military structures, forming new ones and optimizing existing ones. this is done in order to eliminate the duplication of functions, the released servicemen will transfer to the headquarters and headquarters of the operational and tactical levels, as well as combat units, which will make it possible to conduct rotation of units that are in the combat zone for a long time. law enforcement officers have identified the identities of all seven people who died as a result of yesterday's terrorist russian attacks on the kharkiv printing house. four people were identified by forensic experts based on dna samples, serhiy bolvinov, the head of the police investigative department, said. a 26-year-old man from kharkiv had to provide dna samples in order to make sure that his mother was among the dead.