territorial defense forces of the armed forces of ukraine. he came to the defense of ukraine at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia, although he had health problems, his sense of patriotism and duty to the state prompted him to voluntarily join the army. i called at 5 in the morning. i say: taras, the war has begun. he said, mom, i know, i didn't go to bed last night, i already packed. and i say: "taras, what are you talking about? mom, i'm going to war." and... on the very first day he went to the military matron to register for four days, he proved to the military matron that he could go to serve. taras chaika served in the 125th brigade of the territorial defense forces. at first he was in lviv, and in april he voluntarily joined the intelligence unit and fought in donetsk region. he calls me and says: "mom, i'm transferring to intelligence, i can't join the headquarters." when

there is a war and we have to fight, we communicated by text messages, we used to communicate every day, morning and evening, i asked you to send any news that everything is fine with you. but on november 2, 2022 , the woman did not receive any message from her son. then the soldier went to war tasks in the area between lyman and krymina. he has not returned from it. he didn't want to say anything so that i wouldn't worry, although i... supported him all the time, believed that everything would be fine, our last conversation was four days before his death, he called me, i was at work, he says you want to talk, i say, son, i’m at work, talk, i can talk, no, you’ll be at home, dial me, please, i dialed him, we really had a very long conversation, we talked with him for more than an hour, always ...

worried, cried, and the time when we they talked, had a lot of fun, somehow laughed, were happy, he was very positive, as i now understand, he didn't just want to upset, they knew where they were going. during that combat sortie, taras chaika was killed, but he saved his comrades who were traveling with him in the car. he died in a second, but being mortally wounded, he swerved the car in the opposite direction of the shelling and... the boys all remained alive. for this act , taras chaika was awarded the title of hero of ukraine, he is forever 29. this award is a memory for mothers, wives and daughters. he was a very great patriot, he saved lives, he did not save himself, he could save himself, he saved the lives of boys. everyone remained alive, but he was gone. to celebrate life for the homeland is, i believe, a very great feat. to put one's life, a lesser

value, than the life of others and of one's homeland, well, it is for me, it is, i am proud of my son, no matter how courageous he is. khrystyna parubiy, nazar melnyk, espresso tv channel. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on ours platforms on youtube and facebook. if you watch us on youtube and facebook, don't forget. subscribe to our pages, and vote in our survey, because today we are asking you about the russian opposition, whether ukraine should cooperate with the russian opposition, a fairly simple question, the answer is also quite simple, either yes or no, if you watch us on tv, please take your smartphone or phone and vote 0800 211 381 if you think it is worth cooperating in ukraine from the russian position no 0800 211382 and in our studio ilya. russian

oppositionist, former deputy of the state duma of the russian federation, i congratulate you, mr. illa. good evening, but with a survey like this, i would also say no, and why? well, because what is the russian opposition, or something like that, i am a representative of the russian opposition, or should i, you know, i am a representative of the russian armed resistance, and this is something completely different, we even recently conducted such a sociological survey in ukraine. many were respondents, this is a real national survey, and there were answers such, there 5% said that it is necessary to cooperate with the opposition, 56% said that it is necessary to cooperate with voluntary, russian voluntary formations and with the resistance, that is, this is a big difference, but, but in lviv there was a forum of the russian opposition, not of the russian volunteer corps or forces, i.e. they. there were, but it

was a forum of the russian opposition, right? well , it was a question of the name, i believe that the name was wrong here, the people who gathered there even talked about it, because... the main idea was to create this bridge between the russian political opposition and voluntary formations, i.e. to strengthen the same opposition, i.e. the goal was opposition, and now i would really not like to be part of the russian opposition, i simply do not respect it, and the question of who is the russian opposition and what does it manifest itself in , look, when this forum of yours started working and... the mayor of lviv, andriy sadovy , said that he reacted with surprise to the fact that the forum was held (i quote mr. sadovy), they write that a forum of some russian opposition is working in lviv today, the participants allegedly khodorkovsky, kasparov, feigin, shindarovych and other surnames

are not well known to me. who knows, this is some kind of joke, i have already sent the request to the relevant authorities, on the same day , the ministry of defense announced ukraine's support for the forum in the work of which... representatives and delegates from volunteer units fighting in the defense forces of ukraine took part. the head of gur, kyrylo budanov , supported the holding of such an event, according to the message of gur, as one of the manifestations of the struggle against the kremlin dictatorship, which also contributes to the victory of ukraine over the aggressor state. such events bring the end of putin's regime closer and contribute to the consolidation of all forces aimed at overthrowing the dictatorship in the russian federation and defeating the kremlin in the war against ukraine. but tell me, why did the russian opposition have to hold a forum in lviv, a city whose mayor did not know that such a forum would take place, and he realized with surprise that there were russians in the city who were holding some kind of meeting, well

, look, first of all, i believe that the judge knows my last name very well, and also i'm sure he knows khudurkovsky's last name, and even better he knows... some friedman's last name, so what's to say that he doesn't know who these people are, well, i think it's not just wrong, but seriously, well, first of all, the event did not take place in lviv, and precisely because we understand this whole complex situation and attitude, and this is a fair attitude of ukrainians towards russians, to put one or another ukrainian politician. such an inconvenient situation, it was near lviv, well, and secondly, look, well , how could these russians even get to the territory of ukraine, if they were not checked and approved there in the relevant services, well , it is simply unbelievable, during the war and you

know all about it very well. ukrainians quite often on social networks, in particular , argue about whether there is a good russian or not, do you consider yourself? are you a good russian or not? i think that this term is a bad thing in general, why? well, why, what is the point of saying what good russians are? i simply believe that there are normal russians who are currently fighting, who are helping everyone, who are something well, you mean us, they are fighting on the side of ukraine, they are fighting on the side of ukraine, of course in the ranks of the armed forces, and it’s just normal russians, er... and everyone, i generally think that all real russians during this war should to be ukrainians and help ukraine, it is simply our duty, it is the same

question as it would be, and there are normal germans during the second world war, well, those who put up a real resistance to hitler, how were they involved in this, well they were normal germans, well, but no one was looking for someone there, we need some protection there, there, give us some kind of separate passport, as if there are some advantages, there are privileges, well, of course, this is a very bad thing. today i read a post by iryna gerashchenko, one of the leaders of european solidarity, she writes about the fact that in the meeting in which you participated, there are many people who... and maybe they are representatives of the federal security service, and that such an event, well, it would be difficult to imagine under poroshenko, because poroshenko would definitely be eaten for this, relatively speaking, you became a citizen of ukraine during poroshenko's presidency, that is, how do you

perceive the criticisms of poroshenko's associate on the address of those people with whom you participated in this forum together, well, she may simply not know what happened there, but... but tell me what was there, well, as i said, our goal is to use our capabilities regarding mobilization, recruiting, financing, fundraising. for the benefit of the armed forces and for the benefit of these volunteer units that are now fighting at the front, they are fighting right now in vovchansk, they were just the first to meet the enemy there when this offensive was taking place, before you know, they were raiding territories of kursk and belgorod oblasts, and sumskina, well, tsotkina is on the border of the oblasts, yes. and they really scared the enemy, and it was very, very effective.

in general, it is necessary to understand that this war, and it started in moscow, it can be ended only in moscow. there is simply no other way. and who will do it? the ukrainian army will go to moscow to destroy putin. i believe that this is the business of the russians themselves. but they will be needed. then they must be armed so that they can do it, because this protest with flashlights is not capable of anything, and putin will exist, and while putin will exist, missiles will fly here, and that is why there must be russians who will kill putin, who will dismantle this regime, who will dismantle the empire, who will decolonize russia, who will give freedom to all enslaved peoples, and these are the russians that must be supported. how many such russians should there be? i don't ask how many people there are in verdyk now, because i

understand that there are not too many of them, how many people are needed in order for russia, let's say , to start those actions that can be conventionally called a civil war. look, it's me i don't know how many people are in the rdc, because i work with the legion of freedom of russia, i know how many people are in the legion of freedom of russia, but i can't tell you about it, because it's illegal, it's four battalions, and... but they're not 100% full, but there are four battalions, now two are located in the kharkiv region and two are under the time gap, and this number is growing, and we have a lot of people who want to join it, but there is an objective limitation, and this limitation they have to do with how they can leave russia, how they can get around. to that points where they will be checked by the relevant ukrainian services, and then to

enter ukraine, that is why we are now working hard to ensure that they stay in russia and replenish the partisan movement, now the partisan movement, it is much more than even our guys on the front, that is , the partisan movement in russia is now approximately 10,000 people, and if you see the statistics of these attacks that took place there. well, of course, there is an initiative from ukraine, and without ukraine we cannot do anything there, because there are drones, explosives, there, well, weapons and everything else, but well, anyone who understands how drones actually work, they understand that an attack on an oil refinery cannot be carried out there, if you don't have a person on the ground who will plot the trajectory, who is doing it, it's not ukrainians doing it, it's they do the local thing, it's the russians. they do, that is, this is the kind of cooperation that destroys the enemy and now has a profound effect on

the course of the war. today, putin, against whom we are all fighting, came to, or rather, yesterday he came to minsk, today he met with lukashenka, they talked about these exercises non-strategic nuclear forces, and talked about the legitimacy of zelensky, let's hear what putin said during the interim putin, special conference or press conference with lukashenko? of course, we are aware that the legitimacy of the current head of state has ended. i think that one of the goals of the announced conference in switzerland is precisely to make the western community a sponsor.

tell me, why did the world agree with putin's legitimacy? well, i can't say that the world just agreed with putin's cowardice, well, that is, there is a different attitude, did you know that putin is the leader of the state, maybe not everyone says. he is the president, but that he is a leader, well, look, he is actually the leader of the state, he is actually a dictator, he is a usurper of power, he controls the armed forces, he controls the financial flows there, well, that is, well, he is the leader of the country, but he is certainly not the president, because legitimacy is completely different, and i think that it is not necessary to call him the president, and we

called on the governments of various countries to do just that, by the way, i want to say that... even ukraine hesitated, well, but in the end our foreign minister said : yes, we recognize that he is illegitimate, but i also ask here, and then why is there an embassy in the style of the white fleet, still there belongs to this illegitimate president, why will it not be handed over to these armed formations of ours, which can already then create an alternative government that can be recognized as a legitimate government unlike mr. on putin, because that's exactly what he wants to do here, he wants to make us all quarrel here, he wants anyone to appear who will say, i'm now legitimate, eh, to create new elections, so that through these elections there will be internal chaos, and he just doesn't understand one very, very simple thing, that if new

elections are held here, the new government will be much more radical than the current one, and... that it will not benefit him, he keeps dreaming , he has such wet dreams about his medvedchuk, there they are still there, there was still a third yes, the legitimate president, yanukovych was still there, the bilasky district just announced that yanukovych's plane had arrived today, but in gomel, no not in minsk, and at the already secondary airfield there, does he really think about the fact that ukrainians can return to or to yanukovych to... why does he constantly push that yanukovych and that medvedchuk, this is a misunderstanding of ukrainians, a misunderstanding of how we live, a misunderstanding of how we strive for freedom and independence, that is, this, well, from what, or or from the fact that he is always used to measuring by the categories of special operations, and for him this is another special operation, well, he is just a lawyer by education,

and for him it is a formal aspect. he is very important, he, as a lawyer, always wants to avoid laws, circumvent them, but respect that they exist, he wants to say that according to the letter of the law, poroshenko's powers have ceased there, zelensky's powers have ceased, but yanukovych's powers have not, because they were not simply terminated, and that is why, from putin's point of view , he can announce that here he is in... that is why i believe that we need to create the same new alternative government, because here i believe that in ukraine and many other countries of the world this is not underestimated by the attitude of the russian elites to this issue, because there

it's one thing when there is no such alternative, i.e. to destroy putin... who then, we need to show that if not putin, then what will be there, what will be the system, what will be the legislation, what will be the people, what will the parties be, what will be there, and that's when we will be able to achieve a split elites, so that some part of them will switch to our side and political changes will begin, and without political changes taking place there, we will not be able to end the war, and you among yourselves, well, i mean the russian opposition and representatives of the volunteers? russian formations discussed the prospect of creating such a structure, or let's say i don't know it the government in exile, or what should it be called, so many people say about the government in exile, there is a question of legitimacy, that is, we have one body that has a certain legitimacy, this is the congress of people's deputies, this is the parliament in exile, because

there are now about 100 former deputies who were legitimately collected on internationally recognized you? when they existed, and now they simply do not exist, and when they existed, they were elected there, they are representatives of all political parties that have ever been part of the russian parliament, from there apple to united russia, and they all stand on the same position regarding ukraine, the end of the war, the de-occupation of the territory, the punishment of criminals and compensation. all the losses that have occurred, and this unites them, and they create a new political system, but as for the government, there is no legitimacy here, and here we say that here... a rifle that generates power, and that is why this lviv forum, it is aimed at this one in order to form such and

such a structure there, the beginning has already taken place, that is , at the lviv forum , certain working groups were created there in order to to form such an executive structure, but it can be formed only if it is not based on all these political oppositionists, there khadarkovskiy, navalny, anyone, but if it is based on armed units, on the legion, on the rdk and on sibirskyi, that is, i i understand that you will be the prime minister in exile, no, i don't want to be the prime minister, i want to be in the parliament, i want to create legislation, and i want to go to court anyway, because i believe that judicial reform will not be important to her, but in general, the main thing is now you need to build a new one. political system, but to help our guys fight and reach moscow, take power, destroy these criminals, and then start rebuilding the state with those

regions that will remain, will decide to remain part of russia. meanwhile, ukraine is trying to move towards nato and the european union, moscow is just boiling over, but maria zakharova says that membership in the eu for ukraine and moldova will mean... the expansion of nato to the east, let's listen to what she said: it's not, it's not membership , this is not the accession of ukraine and moldova to the european union, this is expansion nato is the east, and all this, in my opinion, has already been proven, it is exclusively a geopolitical tool for imposing rivalry and ensuring dominance in europe by those who, from century to century, this ideology of inequality, imperialism and colonization...

if ukraine becomes derailed the european union, sooner or later it will happen, we will become members of the european union, will this mean the collapse of putin's regime, because if zakharova believes that the european union, ukraine in the european union is a sign of equality in nato, and nato after the european union will be for ukraine as well, and for moldova, it will mean collapse putin or not? oh, i may say this in a sarcastic way, but i believe that until we destroy putin, we will not. that is, you think that you will win faster than we enter, we

will win together faster, we, we can do it without you, this is ours, this is our joint victory, without you, you mean, without ukrainians, without ukrainians, but you are a citizen of ukraine, you are yourself, you are yourself, you are what you are, i am a ukrainian, i am a resident. kyiv, but i am a ukrainian businessman, i am a russian politician, that is, it turns out that you are a citizen of ukraine, fighting for power in russia, well, well, of course, who else are you, you see them, even they can, well, to be honest, me, the most, the most in your gathering, if we talk about the lviv gathering, i was most disappointed, helman, helman's presence at this gathering, because i remember how marat gelman was one of those people. who formed policy in yanukovych's campaign headquarters in 2004, and he was quite active, by the way, he worked with medvedchuk then, well, here he was presented more as a gallerist, although he was

a political technologist and was once a manager of russian public television, and to be honest, it’s also a mystery to me, the composition of those people you had there, you see , yelman actively worked against me, he was also in politics there in the early 2000s, because he was part of fep, gleb pavlovsky, i remember it very well, i remember it very well, but there were other people there, with whom i also had difficult relations before, but good relations for now, because there is a simple approach: if you are now for the victory of ukraine, if you help her, if you risk your own. life, mr. gelman was at zero, he went to the legion, he helped them, he did a lot, there he even

has a reward for it, he could not have done it, that's where mr. todorkovsky did not do this, but gelman did, and we are grateful to him, and if he continues to do this, then, i believe, this will be the redemption of what he, he did then, he has already done publicly many times said that he would be wrong, that it was a crime, and that also distinguishes him from others, that is , he understood it, and the cultural community, which in general, around mr. gelman, he simply transfers more, more and more people to our side, the cultural community is an influence on brains, it is very, very important, and it is also fundraising and recruiting, that is, it is very much in favor of ukraine now. at the very end, i

understood what you want to do with the current one. the russian authorities with putin, and i don't understand what you want to do with china, because china is a divider of modern russia, and the british are talking about the fact that the chinese are allegedly helping the russians, and the spokesman of the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china, wang wenbin called baseless, irresponsible statement of british defense minister grant shaps, let's listen to what wang wenbin said. we would like to tell the british politician that appeasement of china will not help great britain to get out of the difficult situation regarding ukraine, moreover, it will not solve the country's complex internal problems. china was and remains on the side of peace and dialogue. we will continue to work hard to advance the peace talks and oppose incitement . you know, i asked you about the occasion. in

good russians, but are there good chinese? there are, i know them, i was the leader, the head of the friendship group between the state duma and taiwan, that is , the chinese are there, i know one hundred percent, but let it be a matter for the united states, fighting with putin and with china is too much for us now, let us let's focus on putin, i'd rather remain neutral on this issue. thank you, thank you, mr. ilya, it was ilya ponomariev, a russian oppositionist and former member of the state duma of the russian federation. friends, i remind you that we work in live broadcast, today we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about whether ukraine should cooperate with the russian opposition? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube and facebook, you choose options either yes or no. if you are sitting in front of the tv, you can vote thanks to your phone. well

, the numbers are appropriate, if you think that it is worth cooperating with the russian opposition in ukraine (0800-211-381) no 0.800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, now let's look at the intermediate results the survey, the television survey in particular, we have 35% yes, 65% no, well, the result is already much better than it was before, thank you. we will also conduct the survey in the second part of our program, where my journalist colleagues olga musafirova and kateryna nekrecha will be present, ahead of the bbc news, in 15 minutes we will meet in the same studio, thank you once again to ilya ponomaryuv for participating in the program, wait for us, no switch from espresso.

where do the theories about the alleged illegitimacy of president zelensky come from, or his presidential term ended on may 20, after exactly 5 years, how long has he been in office, if... in short, no, but we talk about it in detail on the bbc live from london, i'm yevgenia shedlovska. on may 20, 2019, former comedian and showman volodymyr zelenskyi became the president of ukraine after winning the elections with record support, and this is the moment, the inauguration of zelenskyi. then the first thing he did was dissolve.