rudenkom heavy battles during the time of yar. the russians are trying by all means to erase a strategically important city from the ground. is the enemy capable of opening another front in the north to pull ukrainian forces from the east? the peace summit is in danger of collapsing. according to zelenskyi, today this is the main goal of russian diplomacy and intelligence. what explains biden's alleged... decision not to go to a peace conference in switzerland. a manifestation of the struggle against the kremlin dictatorship. the russian opposition held a secret forum in lviv with the support of the main directorate of intelligence. or is the armed resistance of the russians capable of overthrowing putin's regime? glory to ukraine. the verdict program, my

name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. today we will talk about the congress or forum of the russian opposition in lviv, about the difficult situation that is developing around the time gap, and of course, kharkiv-kharkivshchyna. over the course of an hour , we will talk about all this with our two guests, with two former nationals. one a deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and now a major of the armed forces of ukraine ihor lapin, another deputy, a former deputy of the state duma of the russian federation, and now a russian oppositionist ilya ponomarov. the second part of our program will include the traditional friday journalism club, the participants of which will be kateryna nekrecha and olga musafirova. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you take a look. video of how ukrainian

defenders stopped the enemy assault right near the temporal ravine. units of the armed forces together with the rage brigade destroyed more than 10 units of the attackers' equipment. the fighters eliminated up to fifty occupiers, preventing the russian infantry from gaining a foothold. let's see, this is an enchanting video.

glory to the armed forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, throughout the broadcast we are conducting a survey, asking you today whether ukraine should cooperate with the russian opposition. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube. either yes or no, write your answer option if it does not fit into a single answer, either yes or no. if you watch us in tv broadcasts, please take your smartphone or phone and vote if you think that ukraine should cooperate with the russian opposition 0.800-211-381, no 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will pick up the results of this vote. we have our first guest on the phone, this is igor lapin, major

of the armed forces of ukraine, special officer, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, mr. major, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. well, since we are asking our viewers and tv viewers about whether ukraine needs to cooperate with the russian opposition, for one thing, in order to destroy the putin regime, it is a logical continuation. in your opinion. does ukraine need to cooperate with the russian opposition? well, first of all , i need to understand whether we have a russian opposition and what is its main role in this particular context of the struggle against putin's regime? just get together abroad, somewhere in europe, or maybe even after coming to ukraine, get together, drink tea, something talk and that is, you see, i always have such a logical question, if after that there is no action. to date

, any, shall we say, democratic options for regime change in russia are completely absent. so, i draw one conclusion, the task of the opposition is for them... to go to the kremlin after the change of regime is on our shoulders, they do not set themselves another task. i did not hear that they collected money and donated to the armed forces, i did not hear that the opposition took up calls to arm themselves and destroy everything that belongs to the russian occupation in ukraine, as well as everything that belongs to the russian regime in russia. the opposition today is engaged in boltology, and i do not believe in good russians at all. they won't do anything, please look at their actions in germany, in any european countries, have you ever heard of any of them speaking so often and thickly against putin's regime, just the opposite, remember

victory day, what rallies and demonstrations took place to popularize putin's regime to popularize russian greatness nation, well, for me... to be honest, it's the absence of any opposition at all, i'm not going to flirt with it, because i don't believe in good russians, they don't exist, only by their actions they can prove and prove that they are really, so to speak, good russians. thank you, mr. major, for the comprehensive answer, these same russians, good and bad, are attacking ukraine, at the front at the beginning of the day there were 88 combat clashes with... almost half of them fell on the kuptian and pokrovsky directions, this is reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine . well and in the direction of kharkiv, the enemy has now been stopped, the defense forces are planning and carrying out offensive actions to restore the lost position, the general staff reports.

the situation is under control in sumy oblast and chernihiv oblast. the head of the press service of the 26th artillery brigade, oleg kalashnikov, reported on the espresso channel that the russians have now engaged everyone for the storming of the temporal ravine. resources, let's listen to what oleg kalashnikov said: the enemy is trying to storm us along almost the entire front, but for now he is more concentrated his attention, we can say that for several days, this is andriivka's nickname, and of course, he is directly trying to storm time, he is not just storming it, he is with his terrorist practice, he is simply really destroying it, destroying everything that is there today is located, today he used his maximum resources, which only he has, both for fire damage and for assault actions. today we can see that he is already storming just such a mechanized component. major, how are you?

do you currently assess the situation at the front and, in particular , near the temporary yar, what does putin want? well, let's be honest, no. no matter where his first statements about the goal of the so-called svo went, it is usually an exit to the borders of donetsk and luhansk regions. what he has under his belt, let's say this, thanks to the lack of preparation of ukraine for the confrontation in the 22nd year, the fact that he still managed, as they say, to seize the right bank, nearby, meaning the right bank and kherson, which we successfully repulsed, of course, but this is already a question of a different type, so that he managed to... advance in the kharkiv region, that they managed to seize zaporizhia atomka and so on in zaporizhzhia, this is all a weakness of ukraine's preparation for deterring russian aggression, and we are talking about it, what we manage to do today, then this is not due to the actions of our helmsmen, on the contrary

, it is contrary to their actions, which they engaged in before the start of a full-scale invasion. chasivya is a strategic height, it is control, both to the right in the direction of sloviansk kramatorsk, and to the left in the direction of pokrovsk. that the russians will go, in particular, where we are talking, ivanovsk, try to move in the direction from the south, take, so to speak, in a semi-encirclement of the times, they did it, and we talked about it, and for several months we have been saying that the main the efforts of the russians will be concentrated in the direction of pokrovsk, because pokrovsk is the logistics of the dnipro. donbas, let's say so, and to kill pokrovsk this logistics for them, this is the number one task. at the same time, the purchasing direction is also very seriously significant for them, because it is logistics already, let's say, from kharkov, if to speak like that, well, i’m sorry, i won’t

mark populated areas there on the map right now, but it’s from the north to donbas, logistics is also interrupted by the kupyan direction, and that ’s just such a big, big... such, let’s say, the efforts of the russians, we see, well , actually from the first days of the full-scale invasion, what we managed to contain and repulse, the same lyman direction and so on, is... this is already a matter of skill and sacrifice of the ukrainian soldier. to date, what do i see where, where possible, we can expect? well, unfortunately the general staff says that the russians are using virtually the entire spectrum in order to storm chas iv. i would not like to discount another point, that soon another 250,000 trained, mobilized people will arrive in russia again, and they will come exactly. the russian armed forces are on the territory of ukraine, they are, or rather the russian armed forces already have them, they are currently preparing, but putin does not

stop mobilization measures, and therefore in such a context it is of course very difficult for us to resist, especially against the background, well, in fact, the inadequacy of the law on mobilization , about which we have already been talking for about six months, to kill the soldier's motivation, to kill the issue of demobilization at the root, as they say, and talk about the fact that we... will do everything successfully and we don't need half a million, then i want to tell you that somewhere from the moment, for sure , when we first started talking about mobilization, the russians have already mobilized more than half a million, if you look at the statistics that are given to us, well , so to speak, open sources, and so today it is encouraging our brothers, so i also pay attention to the sumy direction , why did the russians frequent sumy with their sabotage and intelligence operations, let's say so. in sumy oblast, and there is information that they are concentrating there, accumulating, let's say,

the necessary forces for what to stretch our reserves, in kharkiv oblast they succeeded, let's see who stopped the enemy in kharkiv oblast, apart from the tro brigade, which is equipped without motorized infantry units, reserves were thrown there, we know that this is a special unit of the national guard and other special units, but tell me , please, if in parallel now it goes to... in sumy, where will we shoot from, from which fronts will we shoot personnel. if someone has forgotten, then i want to remind you that when the troubles began in ocheretino, the 100th brigade was sent to cover the hole in ocheretino, which did not come for nothing, did not come from the training ground, but was simply removed from another part of the front. that is, we are talking about what, we are talking about the fact that the accumulation of reserves wants to be better, well, this is my opinion on this matter. sir considering the fact that the enemy has been quite actively terrorizing kharkiv for the past few years

months, we can see that they are just hitting the civilian infrastructure, very powerfully, yesterday they hit a printing factory, seven people were killed, 20 people were injured, that is, terror of the highest kind, when they hit civilians, factories, on houses, on everything that they used to beat usually. putin has always talked about the fact that we need some kind of sanitary zone between ukraine and russia, and whether this is now the way of the russians to create this sanitary zone, and whether ukraine can mutually create a sanitary zone between russia only from that side of the border? well, the question, whether we can, then the answer must be asked immediately: and with what forces and means? well, if we believe that... with the help of the assault actions of the russian volunteer corps, we will be able to make some kind of sanitary zone there, well, excuse me,

the village of tyotkino is not a sanitary zone on the territory of russia, and i am looking at today, the actions of the russians actually duplicate our former actions of the same russian volunteer corps, which, with the support of a mechanized unit, carried out assault actions. russians do similar things, and in principle they always did it, just with greater forces and means. about making a sanitary zone, everything that the rosnyavs cannot reach with their dirty hands, they destroy with the help of a colossal superiority in artillery, they actually turn into construction debris any structures where our defenders might be, and this is the biggest problem. the russians should take kharkiv, well, i already said, somewhere approximately, as they will get to kyiv in three days, well, somewhere else you can also sing kharkiv to them, because nothing will come of them from that swarm, but there is another problem. the russians are rushing in the direction of, so to speak, vovchansk-kupyansk, well, i am right now,

not in order to connect with those forces, but in order to get as close as possible to the russian artillery reaching the city of kharkiv, in order to , in order to be able to actually destroy urban buildings with artillery fire, and this is their task, russian artillery, such as rszv hail and so on, well, they will try to advance at least 40 kilometers, and with ideal schedules for the russians, 20 km, so that it is also trunk the artillery could reach the suburbs, so then they would be able to put very serious pressure on the city. today. so far they are using rockets, they are using cabs, this is a bit of an expensive pleasure compared to just artillery, that is why i look at this story with kharkiv oblast in this context, well, if we take any assault operation of the russians, we take popasna, sorted out a city for parts, and then they took over a city that was torn apart,

there is another one, severodonetsk, the same story, bakhmut, avdiyivka, marinka, that is, they are are doing with such a barrage of fire, and thanks to it they create a so-called sanitary zone in front of their infantry units, this same story along our northern border, it will continue, we, to our great regret, have such forces, means and reserves, well, there is no side on at the moment, i emphasize once again, the village of tiotkino is very important, but it is not a sanitary zone on the territory of russia along the northern border with ukraine, so... well, we see that it is a god-pleasing thing to destroy russians on the territory of russia? so, of course, but you know, i watched the operations of our special forces, i have been watching the organization of sabotage work for a long time, you know, when there were serious confrontations in bashkirtostan, there it was necessary to help the bashkirs, to let some blood to the policemen,

to the russians, and believe me, it was would have a much greater effect than the village of tyotkino, although it is not necessary... from the accounts, i emphasize once again that the work of the rdk and all other units in the north of our country, on the territory of the russian federation, is also a god-pleasing matter, regarding the transfer of hostilities to the territory the aggressor that is, mr. major, as far as i understand, you assume that the russians can enter the territory of the sumy region much deeper than they have now entered? yeah, i guess they could just do another one. let's say, a source of pressure on our armed forces and stretching the reserves of our armed forces. today they passed in kharkiv oblast, i think that the time is not far when they will do the same somewhere in some areas of sumy oblast. well, this, let's say so, of course, it should not pass without a trace for of our intelligence, we must have an understanding of where

and what forces they accumulate. i want to remind the audience that april 3 is the most important thing. intelligence came out and said that all those who talk about the kharkiv direction are all russian and dogs, you are kremlin agents, this is not a quote, but these are the approximate theses of the spokesman of the gur, mr. yusov: only a month and 10 days later, the same yusov came out and says: we knew exactly when they would go, how many of them would go and where they would go. then i am asked in that problem: why didn't they hit before the russians deployed in battle formations, why didn't they hit earlier only when the russians were standing. clustered in one or another point, like that, if you knew, here are some of my complaints about today's propagandists in sometimes in military uniform, it's not a great pity. well, by the way, about the spies, you mentioned the spies, zelenskyy met with the heads of the ukrainian spies and at the end of the meeting said that the disruption of the peace summit in

switzerland became the main task of russian diplomacy and foreign intelligence on the nearest time let's listen to what zelensky said. there were intelligence reports from gur and szr, including about russian efforts to disrupt the peace summit and the participation of world powers. we oppose the russian desire to continue and expand the war. mr. major, please tell me what you expect from this global peace summit, or can it provide answers to the questions we have? yes, this summit will not bring any peace, this summit does not provide any guarantees for the struggle against russia, this summit does not create an iron curtain over the territory of russia, so that they, as they say, so-called sanctions things can be applied by those countries that will be there,

for this summit, i do not know the information to date, but i know that the global south is not quite going, well, as far as i know, brazil, south africa are definitely not going, india seems to be saying that they are going, but nevertheless, let's talk, if we are talking about the peace summit, then what is there for our victory? i have never once heard from zelensky that he has a strategy for victory, a strategy for peace, ok, then why in this peace strategy, in those ten points, i didn't see the word nato, that's one thing. further, recently zelenskyi stated that exactly what three directions are expected from that summit and that... what do we see instead of 10 points of the peace formula from zelenskyi, i emphasize without nato, we hear that the issue of shipping needs to be resolved at this summit, at this summit it is necessary to resolve... the issue of environmental and nuclear safety, and at this summit it is necessary to resolve the issue of exchange, the release of our hostages , i'm sorry, but where are the other points

mir zelensky's formulas? that is, you understand what we are talking about today, the summit in itself will not bring any peace, as a political statement, yes, but then let's say frankly, well, biden is not going there, xi jinping is clearly not going there, so tell me, please , in addition to this political statement, we are expanding the anti-putin coalition. and send sanctions at this summit? no. then please tell me the goal. well, but the goal can probably be determined by the person responsible for such summits, mr. yermak. why do we not have zelensky's 10-point peace formula? points about nato, and why, instead of these 10 , we are now limited to some three incomprehensible ones, as for me, for such a big, let's say, kurultaya summit, where there are representatives of more than 100 countries, as announced to us earlier, well, i'm looking at it for now that, as for the first swallows of failure, although i don't want to shout treason ahead of time, you know, but i emphasize once again, for ukraine, peace

is the absence of a threat and the possibility of repeated aggression from russia. please tell me, among that list in that summit, there is something that can eliminate the threat from russia? there is nothing, so where is the peace? that's all. you mentioned joseph biden, it's been reported that he is apparently likely, at least in the american media, to miss the peace summit in switzerland in june due to a campaign fundraiser in california that he is scheduled to attend with george clooney, julia roberts and other stars, this is reported, in particular , by bloomberg, that is, without the main players, without... we do not take russia here at all, because he, this country is an aggressor and putin is an aggressor, but without the main players, without biden and without sitting, well, in fact, this summit

is turning into some kind of humanitarian summit, or let's say, which will solve not the most important issues, not the most important issue that is in ukraine, when russia will withdraw from the territory of ukraine and how to force russia to withdraw from the territory of ukraine, that's right, i remember you. i agree, i can only add that the favorite words of mr. zelensky have become security agreements, which have no security, and the peace summit, which does not bring peace, so they are carried with very good slogans, but i emphasize once again, you can carry around these slogans for a long time like a fool with an empty bag, but once again, for ukraine, peace is the absence of a threat from russia, peace is the liberation of territories, peace is contributions, reparations, attraction war criminals, then... that is, these are the consequences, where russia will no longer attack us after that. tell me, please, what is the peace summit about? of course not about what i voiced. that's all.

therefore, this is a chat room. for me, it will be just a chat room. yes, politically, it's a statement, yes, to gather applause again, well, rating of applause for addicted zelensky, i want to see and hear them. we remember how the whole world met him in the 22nd year, in the 23rd year, well, we still have to in the 24th. for me, personally. this is not a peace summit, because even the expansion of the anti-putin coalition is not envisaged in the context of this summit, because it is the anti-putin coalition that can influence, and if there are representatives of india, i would like to hear that india is conducting the same sanctions policy on russian oil, for example , or something like that like, iron hatred for any goods of russia. let's be honest, norway is one of the first. which banned even tourist visas for citizens of russia, russia must feel, every citizen of russia must feel that they are the cause of all

the problems that fall upon them, and for problems to fall, the world must be united, at the moment, well the world is one, well, they are cutting switzerland, but, but three dots, mr. major, the very end of our conversation, i would like to ask you about mobilization, or rather what decides this law. which took effect on may 18, 2024, because the spokesman of the ministry of defense of ukraine, dmytro lazutkin , reported on espresso that the reserve plus application had become the most popular way to update the data of conscripts, let's listen very briefly to mr. lazutkin, now we have about a million people who have already updated their given precisely through the plus reserve, and if you are interested... can give some statistics, either in percentages or in numbers, about 11 thousand ukrainians did it outside our country, in poland, in

in germany, in the czech republic and in canada, these countries are the leaders, also, about 120 thousand women conscripts have clarified their data through the reserve plus application, and 145 thousand are people who are reserved or have deferments, they also fulfilled, so to speak, the norm of the law, mr. major, apart from the fact that people fulfilled the norm of the law, what else decides? this new procedure for updating data, does it solve the main issue, the issue of mobilization? well, let's be honest, today no, but in general yes in the future, because in principle the summons is sent to correspondence, for example, to the email address that was indicated in the reserve plus, will be considered served, as far as my memory serves from this law, so it will give a result, but the first reinforcement, the first replenishment of the troops, which ... will be recruited

with the help of the new law on mobilization, somewhere around the month of october, why? because let's face it: 60 days to update, then what? please tell me that the reserve plus sent at least someone to the vlk? no, what's next? well, they updated it, by the way, you noticed statistics: the reserve plus is hundreds of thousands of citizens, people are afraid to go live with the army , everything is equal, that is, this is another story, well, but nevertheless they have updated, what's next, we are waiting for the story. to the vlk, then what, after the vlk, maybe a summons with a combat order, next, then there is mobilization, sending to training grounds, 2-3 months of training, and when there will be the first reserve plus our troops at the time of yar, somewhere around october-november , that's the problem, we need to be much faster than we are today. thank you, mr. major conversation, it was a major of the armed forces of ukraine,

a special representative of the games. lapin, friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, and let me remind you that during this broadcast we are conducting a survey, we are asking you about whether it is worth cooperating with the russian opposition in ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you are sitting in front of the tv, pick up your phone or smartphone and vote if you think ukraine should cooperate with the russian opposition 0800 211381, no 0802138. 62, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will announce the results. he saved others at the cost of his own life. taras chaika, a hero of ukraine, a soldier of the 125th brigade of territorial defense forces, received a fatal wound in battle in the east of ukraine, see his story below. it is necessary for people to see, to know, and for the generation to be brought up by such boys who... it is important

that brave men went to defend, protect and give their lives for our country, these are the things of my son cheika terasan, who died on november 2, 2022 year, this is his cassock, here if you look, at the back, there is even a signature here that these are the things of a chemist, because his call sign was a chemist, they also brought chevrons, he was... in the ... tro, chevron tro, chevron of the 125th brigade, he was a reconnaissance commander, that's a reconnaissance insignia. taras chayka, hero of ukraine, scout of the 125th brigade of territorial defense forces of the ukrainian armed forces. he came to the defense of ukraine at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia, although he had health problems, he had a sense

of patriotism and duty to the state. encouraged him to join the army voluntarily. at 5 in the morning i called, i said: taras, the war has started. he said: "mom, i know, i didn't go to bed last night, i already packed." i say: "taras, what are you talking about? mom, i'm going to war." and, on the very first day , he went to enlist in the army. for four days, he proved to the military that he could go to serve. served in the 125th brigade of territorial defense forces. at first he was in lviv, and in april, at his own request, he joined the intelligence unit and fought in donetsk region. he calls me and says: "mom, it's me i'm transferring to intelligence, i can't be in the headquarters when there's a war, and we have to fight." they talked.