front, that is why the leningrad district, which operates in the north, was formed for this purpose, however, not everything went to me, everything did not go according to plan with the russians, in fact, because instead of pulling away our important reserves in the east with smaller forces, they due to failure, here it is necessary also speak directly about their operation as a priority, they themselves are forced to... transfer reserves from these areas where they wanted to be successful, from the kupyansky direction, from the pokrovsky direction, so, well, it seems that due to the stubbornness of the positions of both sides, we have a new new area battles, where, including, which still has one the psychological factor is much more influential, well, precisely because of... this is one of the key

points of the russian offensive in kharkiv oblast is the task of missile-bombing in kharkiv on the surrounding cities, but this does not remove the possibility that they may use their forces to attack kharkiv, they cannot take kharkiv, they don’t have enough there at the moment they don’t have enough forces there, but... trying to capture it is quite possible, and even itself, not even the surroundings of kharkiv, itself attempt it according to them, it will lead to panic in kharkiv, then panic in poltava, then panic in kyiv, and this, well, this is one of the goals of this, how to say correctly, informational component of the war. mr. pavle, in just a few hours... before our program, a terrible, yet another

terrorist attack on kharkov, on the epicenter, yes, another tragedy with dead people, with dozens of victims, in general, how should we continue to see this whole situation, or should we expect kharkov daily constant blows and what the population should do in such a case, well, that's in general such pressure on the citizens to leave the city. well, it's obvious, and what can i advise the residents of kharkiv or odesa, for example, it's not the first time i tell my friends in kharkiv and odesa that your cities, unfortunately, are geographically located in such a way that the enemy will attack you , some say, well, you concentrated all the air defense forces around kyiv there, no, it's not because we concentrated the air defense forces around kyiv. because the approach time to

odesa or kharkiv is shorter than the reaction time from our air defense means, we will even put the patriots around kharkov will still break through three or four eight batteries, like at the vilnius summit, and unfortunately, this is the russian strategy, and it is better to leave. from these cities, i said it, i say it to my acquaintances, friends who live there, but one more point, which, literally yesterday, the day before yesterday, the russians struck a series of blows on the railway, on the depot, on the kharkiv depot, on lubotyn, this is also the case , such and such not only. disrupt logistics, and this way,

this is a message to kharkiv residents to be afraid, be afraid to move, be afraid to make decisions, accept by our fate, well, this cannot be allowed, but tell me, what do you think, after all, what will happen to our capabilities to strike at the russian infrastructure, as far as we can, by the way, in principle, strike at this russian military infrastructure, with which. .. are destroying kharkiv, do you think the situation will develop in this direction, if it is possible in principle? it is clear that you mean western means of damage, long-range damage, attacks, you all end up firing artillery, because with our own forces we can hit the enemy's territory, in the enemy's rear, no one can forbid, not even our

partners and allies, who sometimes say, there are such allegations that some or other strikes by the armed forces of ukraine on enemy rear lines. whether with the raids of the armed forces of ukraine on enemy rear lines or our , shall we say, partner units that support the defense forces, there is no need to do this, we are defending ourselves and the fact that after the attack on kharkov they talked about it in a voice in the west, it is already plus, you know, how macron raised the issue of... the possibility of deploying french troops in ukraine, many analysts, many, political scientists, they say that the main thing, in fact, macron's words do not mean that the french tomorrow there

will be a french-estonian legion fighting in the direction of sumy or kharkiv, no, the merit here is that he raised the issue, in addition... in addition it was forbidden to keep silent about the participation of nato troops in the defense of ukraine, so not officially, he broke this ban, and actually what some are already saying, no, we will not participate in this, others say, yes, we will under certain conditions , we will definitely take part in the defense of ukraine if necessary. it already dragging the overton window in our favor, the same as for, if there was talk in the west about the need to transfer permission to ukraine to carry out strikes against russian rears

on its territory, this is also dragging the overton window, i am not, i am not sure that in the near future will be this question. decided in our favor, but sooner or later politicians in europe, politicians in america will have to make this decision. since the 22nd year, we have been asking our partners to close our nego, with arguments, but so far there has been no such decision, here is an example of how long it can take. ukraine destroyed another actually russian ship, the cyclone, it is called, a carrier, by the way, of calibers, one of the last, which was located on the territory of or near the black sea fleet, mr. pavle, how will this

generally affect, or will it not affect, possible shelling of our country with calibers from on the part of the russians, and this is another, or is this another demonstration of the fact that... that the russians are no longer dominant, at least near the crimean peninsula, at least in the area of ​​the black sea fleet, well, it is already known, well, you can even google the map to see that the forces the black sea fleet is now concentrated, the most combat-capable, concentrated in novorossiysk, full of civilian ships, even there in the geoport. the black sea fleet hangs out in sevastopol, there are very few ships left, and the fact that the damage was caused by a cyclone is another step in this direction, of course, one will not reach novorossiysk for sure, but by the way

, our spokesmen in the navy some hurried from without to reconnaissance and reported that kovrovits, a marksman of the 68th ovra brigade, who was standing, had been destroyed. this information is enough there so expanded, no, kovrovets was not sunk, but a day after this information and the attack on the sevastopol bay, all the ships of the 68th brigade of the protection of the water district, which were left in sevastopol, there one ipc and two minesweepers , together with this kovrovets, took a friendly course to novorossiysk, well... this is a direct result of such strikes, as regards the ability of the russians to launch missile strikes on ukraine, including from the sea with calibers, unfortunately, as journalists, we have already said, this is one of

those tasks that, out of five one and a half tasks that the russians are still able to perform, one of unfortunately, these are missile strikes, so the cyclone was the last, well, the last is not one hummingbird missile carrier in sevastopol, all the others are ready for battle. the plant was destroyed, well, there are minus 6 missiles in the pusha, here there are minus 6 missiles in the pusha, in kirch

minus one rocket in the pusha, of course we cannot destroy all their missile carriers at the same time, but step by step step by step, this is necessary, until it is necessary to strive for and direct it, it cannot be said that this rate of putin is the black sea fleet, for which he even started the events of the 14th year, when he decided to turn crimea into such a ... aggression for nothing, it actually turned out to be not so successful, well, really, and here is putin, he is a facebook guy, he is not a military man, he, here he listened to his generals and admirals, and the generals and admirals thought by soviet standards, not just by soviet standards, but by soviet myths about the role of the black sea fleet, about the role of sevastopol in the black sea, well... what happened later after the 22nd year demonstrated that not the 18th century and

not even the 19th, on the yard of the 21st century is gone sailing fleet, has advantages in the corner of the winds, and the one who owns sevastopol, no, is not the master of the black sea, the master of the black. the castle of the black sea straits, also stalin, but recently, colleagues, we were reminded of stalin’s statement during the opening of the kola flotilla there militarily in the north, who said that the black sea is lakhanka, and the baltic sea is a bottle, and the cork from this bottle is not at all in the hands of... they have the soviet union, whoever owns

the cork actually controls the black sea. thank you, thank you, mr. pavle, pavlo lekiychuk, head of security programs at the center for global studies strategy 21. we will now take a break with you for just a few minutes, but please do not disconnect, do not switch, there are still many interesting conversations ahead. vasyl zima's big broadcast. two hours of airtime, two hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and what the world is like, two hours to keep up with economic and sports news, two hours in the company of your favorite presenters, presenters who have become familiar to many, and also distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening at espresso. sharp presentation of facts and competent. opinion information marathon with mykola veresny saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15.

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we are also in a safe place and continue. we already have our next guest, volodymyr khandogiy, the president of ukraine foreign policy association, ambassador of ukraine to great britain in 2010-2015. mr. volodymyr, good evening to you. mr. volodymyr, congratulations. so, let's talk about these, i would say, putin's calls for negotiations with ukraine in a rather strange form, which were made in minsk. the time of his visit, which is now being distributed by western news agencies, with references to some authoritative source in the circle of putin himself, what does it all mean? well, look, in my opinion, it basically means only one thing: it is necessary to disrupt the summit in switzerland, well , at least, if not to disrupt it, then to downplay its importance, to launch some kind of thesis, to make some kind of

discussion, that while we are talking there, and there is a desire... it means to hold specific negotiations, but putin is proposing it, i.e. , that is, in my opinion, this is a concrete attempt to influence the holding of the peace summit, which is planned for the summer in geneva, so i think that there will be additional attempts in some way, so to speak, to influence the summit, if not to disrupt it, and this one of those... one of those opportunities in their opinion, in the opinion of the russian federation. there was also information that the president of the united states of america, joe biden, will not come to the global peace summit. in your opinion, mr. volodymyr, this is a bad signal, but it has nothing to do with the support of the united

states of america, and maybe there will be some other high representative from our main ally. well, first of all, to be honest, i may have missed it, but i did not see a specific message that he would definitely not come, there was such an announcement that he might not come to have time, he may not not do it, that is, not not to be present at the summit, because he has important events there in connection with the elections, which will be held in the fall of this year, of course. if he doesn't come, it's a bad signal, a bad signal, but on the other hand, you don't need to , you know, exaggerate a bit and say that everything is lost if biden is not there, it is important for us to have concrete help from the united states in the process of the war, which we are leading, and of course we would like it, i understand that

president biden still has a good position in the elections, her presidential elections. in november of this year, the very event that he so plans to make it to, is with the participation of important hollywood stars, various other characters of american show business, who can actually stimulate the public to vote for biden, that is, not all is so bad, of course the united states will be represented. i don't know at what level, we'll see, but of course, the level will depend on how many we manage, so to speak, to recruit delegations of countries to participate in this summit in lucerne, and you

there is no impression at all that the american administration itself does not have a clear understanding of how to proceed in the war. against ukraine, because now we know that secretary of state blinkin spoke about the possibility that western american weapons would also be used to strike the so-called sovereign territory of the russian federation, he made such a cautious, i would say, comment when he was in kyiv on this topic, secretary of defense austin opposes this very thing, american media say that blinkin is trying to convince joseph biden, has a new moment come? well , look, in my opinion, it's not that there isn't a... understanding, there isn't a common understanding, and what you're saying right now really speaks to the divisions that exist broadly within the american administration, let's say between the white house, there... the state department is to a certain extent a state within a state, the congress, but recently mike johnson already talked about what, well

, he hinted, that ukraine should be given the opportunity to determine how to wage war and not engage in micromanagement, that means no to tell us where and how to shoot, and we need to provide those opportunities, weapons, and then let ukraine decide for itself, so in my opinion they are in... defining the general position, actually the congress demanded, when they gave us 61 billion in aid, that the government, the white house will prepare, well , if not a certificate, then the research will tell, after all, what is the strategic goal, how do they see the victory, the victory of ukraine, and as far as i know, as far as i understand, such a document is currently being prepared ... .if it is made public, then we let's better understand what the possible goal of the united states of america is in foreign policy and, in particular, in the policy regarding this

war with the russian federation. tell me, mr. volodymyr, after all, we have some chances to convince the united states to change, if you want such principled approaches. i think there is. it seems to me that there is no such thing as already , ... maturing, this, well, at least the first step can be this, this so-called thesis, about whether or not we can use western weapons to attack targets outside our territory, and if such a decision is made, and even if it is not, so to speak, pompously made there, declared, but if they remove these reservations that exist to this day, it will say that the policy of the united states america before the war, and actually, before the end of this war, so to speak, it

is changing, and it seems to me that secretary of state blinkin, whose position now, specifically, is different from the one, will play a very important role here, must play which conducted by the same zai. i would like to talk with you a little about china. this week there was a statement by the british defense minister grant shapps, he said that china is going to allegedly supply lethal weapons to russia. at the same time, the united states of america stated that they do not have such information. mr. volodymyr, what do you think, actually ? there is a possibility that aid will be extended from china, the russian federation, and how in principle western countries can

make it impossible or at least in some way minimize such things? well, look, there is such a possibility, of course, whether china is going to do it or not is a big question, i, like many others, am not privy to such deep aspirations of china, here it is balancing. between, so to speak, the help of the russian federation in one form or another, and trying to maintain normal, more or less normal, at least economic relations with the european union, i'm not talking about the united states of america, it's much more complicated there, so actually now i think the task is worthwhile in terms of how to keep china in the position it... occupies today, because the transition of china to the position of supplying lethal, in particular, weapons to the russian federation will mean a serious step against ukraine, and

how to deal with that, well, actually here it will be difficult to predict, because today this support for china, to a certain extent and to a greater extent, is political, economic, of course there is... there are attempts, and not without success, to circumvent sanctions, to use third countries to supply some components to federation, but so far, so far we don't have, i understand, at least in the open sources of information, that china has moved to the direct supply of weapons, which is actually what the united states is talking about. and if we talk about... the situation related to these chinese efforts regarding the global south, we can see that china is trying to convince those

countries that are currently supporting the good. relations with the united states, there is such an event, does the west generally have its own tools for such an alternative influence, in your opinion? of course, the west has, perhaps not as much - let's say, levers, not as strong and powerful as they once were, china is increasing its authority among the countries of the southern south, well, at least this is the latest information that china and brazil... well, something is being hatched there and they are proposing some kind of alternative conference, if we go back to what we said at the very beginning with the conference in geneva, where russia and ukraine would be present, so this suggests that attempts to attract china, so to speak, embrace the global south, they continue, to a large extent china, well, has made some progress in this. and

africa and asia, of course, a large number of countries, in principle, support china as well, and pursue such a policy that is loyal to that, to china, to that pursued by china, that they consider it one of those important factors in world politics, and is being formed gradually, well , let's say so, if not... at least a group of states of a significant number of states, in particular of the global south, which are clustered around, around china. as to how this to prevent, well, it is difficult to say, we are witnessing a certain loss of the leading role of the united states of america due to various reasons, in particular , now due to the

presidential race, so to speak, which is... in full swing, and against this background, america is losing its ability to influence their former allies and partners, so this is a long-term, long-term story that we will be witnessing for some time to come. one more topic, and also about our main ally, great britain. this week, sunak, the prime minister of this state dissolved parliament, i would also like to ask you about this matter, why so much earlier than the deadline, yes, that is, in principle, we understand that this parliament could still exist somewhere until the month of november, the prime minister of great britain still went to such a step was dissolved by the parliament already in one and a half months in great

britain. well, look, well, first of all, in great britain there are clear deadlines that the parliament cannot exceed, and accordingly, elections must be held from a specific date, no later than a specific date, but earlier can take place when the prime minister, as the ruling party, wants it, in my opinion, the decisions of the court'. realized that now the support of their competitors, the liberal party, is growing more and more in the political community of great britain, and in my opinion, he chose this particular time with such, well, such hope that today there is still the same level of support that the conservative party, it is

still sufficient to go to the elections, and... already later, let's say, in the autumn, er, here, that is, the tendency is for the conservative party to lose the majority among the british voters, so, well, this was his calculation, so to speak, that it is more profitable for him to hold elections now than to hold them at the end of the year, but i think that, let's say, let me predict, it is unlikely. will save the conservative government and the conservative majority in the parliament, but we already have a tendency today yesterday that already 80, so to speak, members of the parliament of great britain from the republican party have declared that they will not...