for ukraine to win, everything is logical, for us it is illogical, because we have a different goal in this war. maria, in view of their logic, which you just explained, which does not coincide with the ukrainian logic in this sense, what to expect, specifically there at this nato meeting. the telegraph writes that ukraine's allies will focus on strengthening ukraine's armed forces, so that when the time is right for membership, ukraine could immediately do so. what should it be, will it be something specific? now ukraine will focus on filling practical defense orders and cooperation are those security treaties that it signs with individual nato member countries. this will be a priority now for ukraine, because the agreement itself is even as ambitious as with great britain, without specific government decisions, without specific government defense orders for the supply of weapons to ukraine, without specific training programs, without specific programs of participation forces there. britain in

strengthening maritime security, as it is written for ukraine. without specific decisions, this contract will remain, will remain only a contract for the next few years, no matter how many years it was signed, or for 50 or even 100. therefore, i think that in ukraine they already understand very clearly that the desired result will not be achieved at the nato summit, so it is worth fighting for a practical dimension, and a practical dimension is troops and defense industries. nato member countries, therefore, in my opinion, the priority now will be in this, and not in the expectations and not in the formulations at the summit. in parallel with that, president zelensky signs many security agreements directly with specific countries, why these security agreements, that they are given in practice to ukraine, will it be something similar to the budapest memorandum, when something is signed, but the partners do not seem to have such concrete commitments, well, it is very important that in... the country, unfortunately, from

the representatives of the authorities security guarantees are often heard, it must be very clearly understood that in any country, whether in germany, france, or great britain, they immediately correct and say that these are not security guarantees, security assurances, that is, in this sensei is very, very ambivalent history, and if we see if they will give something to ukraine in a year, when we see the budgets of these countries. for the 26th year, i.e. from the 25th, it is still possible that they did not have time to work out a solution everywhere, for example, on the same defense plant for ukraine, but from the 26th year, we will see if at least the delivery of weapons is planned for those 10 years, for which most agreements are signed, or what the load is, how the defense budget increases, what share of this defense budget will be directed in these countries precisely to support security support. of ukraine, which

programs, how to now join the trainings that are prescribed in almost every one of these agreements, how to join these countries in these trainings on a very quick, short-term basis, because in order to repel the russian offensive, it is necessary to train very quickly, professionally those people who are now are mobilizing in ukraine, not as it was during the period before the counteroffensive, which took months, now it should be intensive, fast and official, most likely on the territory of ukraine, and not on the territory of great britain. whether in poland or somewhere else, so we will look at certain specific ones steps, but for me the main indicator will be the budgets, because these peaceful agreements, they are actually about the supply of weapons, and not about sending a military contingent to any of these agreements of such a norm, moreover , there is no obligation, but it may be possible if there will be a decision of either the president or the government, depending on the country. in principle, france has already started this conversation. i started this conversation, and maybe the answer will come in time. of this nato summit,

some result of this conversation, or at least a statement, i expect that france will do on at the summit, some loud statements were made that nato should appear precisely as an institution, as an actor, even if there is no invitation for ukraine. that is, without an invitation, conditionally speaking, during the nato summit, you can expect, for example, permission to strike with western weapons on the territory of russia, in that there may be, may be, because the situation is really absurd now. and it became clear that without the use of long-range weapons on the territory of russia and without the timely supply of weapons to ukraine to hit the russian rear in the occupied territory of ukraine, ukraine will lose, and right now, well, this is a very specific conversation, so such statements should be expected in order to slightly break the position of the same washington in this regard, but not regarding nato membership.

thanks maria for joining, thanks for your analysis. maria zolkina, a political analyst at the democratic initiative foundation named after ilko kuchariv, was a guest of svoboda ranok. and then we will talk about... the dollar exchange rate is always an interesting topic for ukrainians, the dollar has set a new record, the euro is also growing in value, foreign currency is becoming more expensive, for today the national bank has set the value of the dollar at uah 40, 39 kopecks, you can buy a euro for almost uah 44. previously, the national bank explained the increase in the value of the currency by the inflow of international currency, saying that the increase in value is due to an increase in state budget expenditures. it is interesting that the cabinet of ministers set an average exchange rate at the level of 4.7 in the state budget for this year, and by the end... this year the exchange rate is expected to be at the level of 42.1, and the american currency is already very close to the threshold of the average exchange rate. and if we take into account the cash market, then the price there has already reached 41 hryvnias. meanwhile, the federal reserve the us system can equalize the price of the dollar and the euro by the end of the year. well, while the value of

the dollar is growing, the ukrainian government plans to increase the price of electricity. minister of energy of ukraine herman galushchenko stated in the verkhovna rada during the hour of questions to the government that by the end of may. a decision will be made, now government officials are agreeing on the final cost of a kilowatt of light for the population, and according to him, the new price of electricity will depend on the volume of consumption, and the minister explained the increase in price by the fact that, taking into account the reduction of the power system due to the shelling of the russian army, the current price does not even cover the cost of production, now the cost of 1 kv is 2.64 kopecks, and the new price, according to various experts' calculations, may reach four or more hryvnias. recently, the cost of electricity was increased in 2023, and due to russian shelling and large-scale destruction of the energy system in ukraine , the blackouts have resumed blackouts, and these blackouts will not be canceled even after the tariffs are raised, this is predicted by ukrenergo. we will understand these issues in more detail further. oleg penzen, economist joins

our broadcast. mr. oleg, congratulations, thank you for joining. glad to see. good day. tell each other why the dollar is more expensive and whether there is a limit to this. well, look, you told absolutely everything correctly in the outline, well, that is , so qualified, so it seems to me that i just need to add a little something in order to fully form the picture of what we are talking about, you absolutely correctly said that in the budget for 24th year stands at 47, that's the average annual rate, well i don't think it will be 42 by the end of the year, that's well unreal numbers, but... look, you and i do not have a foreign exchange market in ukraine. why? well, what is the market? the market is when there is a certain pool of sellers and a certain pool of buyers, however, their demand and supply form a kind of balanced

course, based on the total volume of one and the other. you and i have a sufficiently large number of people willing to buy. who sells here? we are sold by one institution, what is its name? the national bank of ukraine, that is, based on, let's say, the specifics of the seller, which is at the same time a regulator and a market operator, that is, he himself forms the rules of the game and plays according to those rules himself, on the one hand, and on the other hand, the following must be understood: he has two interests, from two sides of his so-called surround, and based on those interests, he forms his own position. regarding exchange rate formation, her first interest is that the government, the ministry of finance of ukraine, is behind it, which, as i have already said, put 4.7 in the budget, eh, here is the point, we and you all social expenses are paid

at the expense of macro-financial aid, well , it's no secret for anyone that everything you and i earn goes to security and defense, it's 1.7 trillion, our direct expenses are three. i.e. 1.6 all social expenses go at the expense of macro-financial assistance. in the 23rd year, we received 42 billion dollars. this year we plan to receive 37.5, they are confirmed, that is, we will definitely receive them. but the ministry of finance needs to ensure that for every dollar it sells to the national bank, it receives more hryvnias. well, he has. payments in what hryvnias, and the macrofin comes in dollars, so for him, the weaker the exchange rate, the more profitable, because he receives conditionally more hryvnias for a conditional dollar, and i repeat once again, social payments in hryvnias, that is, this is one interest, the second interest of the national bank of ukraine -

this is inflation, he is responsible for inflation, and the national bank perfectly understands that the weaker the dollar, the quieter, the weaker the hryvnia, the stronger the dollar, the more expensive imports are, and we are very import. dependent, in our country all goods of long-term use are imports, in our country a lot of fuel and lubricants, imports, well, that is, they are imports, and in this situation, i say once again, he, er,... is sitting on a tightrope, on the one hand he has inflation, and on the other hand he has a government with his desire to weaken the hryvnia. what happened now? at the moment , inflation in ukraine is less than in the united states of america. we have official inflation, and what is inflation, it is an index of growth of consumer prices, in relation to may of last year, well april, we count now through may, our inflation is 3.2%, that is, we have consumers. prices for increased by 3.2% during the year, well , the price of the food basket did not increase at all, something

more expensive, something cheaper, in general, we have practically the same price of the food basket as it was last year. in the united states of america, inflation is 3.5%. we are a warring country, let's remind you, the target corridor of inflation, which the national bank itself inserted in the forecast, the lower limit is 5%. that is, today he had a unique opportunity. slightly weakening the hryvnia on the one hand, on the other hand it will not collapse inflation very much, because summer is traditionally a deflationary period in our country, a huge amount of products produced from open ground comes to the market, in our country, as a rule, in the summer, vegetables and fruits become cheaper, it is a great time to raise the hryvnia a little to the level that the government and the ministry of finance dream of, so now we see there is a real weakening with you, and i think that in june we will cross the conditional... corridor of 4.7, well, that is , 40 hryvnias 70 kopecks, and i think that in the fall we will expect

something closer to the 41st, even maybe even somewhere in the month of august, but such heart-breaking things are unlikely to happen there, so that, well, if we really look, then , as a rule, autumn is a very inflationary time in our country, the demand for currency increases sharply, a huge amount of supplies appears, and... because, well, summer is such a somewhat specific time, therefore, i think that we will actually see the main weakening of the hryvnia with you in the summer, the national bank will balance it with the level of inflation that will be achieved due to the deflationary processes of the summer in principle, there will be no such increase in product prices, as i understand correctly, that is, so significant that people really they will be able to feel it like that, well, look, we have several types of products that are fantastically

low, that have lower cost prices, we have eggs, we have oil, we have, well, count sugar, flour, these are export products , which er were blocked by blocking the borders in the month of april, and in may they left little by little. not quite, but we went to europe a little bit. the manufacturer, having an extremely low price for them inside the country, and why did it turn out that way, because export deliveries, instead of to go abroad, stayed in the country, and the market has clearly worked here, we have a huge volume of offers, but the demand has not increased, even, mind you, we have easter holidays, eggs were cheaper than last year, on the easter holiday, somewhere around. by 30%, what a miracle, everything is very simple, there were a lot of eggs in the offer,

because they did not go to europe, but remained in the country, you, you will not take the eggs anywhere, you will not tell the chickens, carry it less , because there is nowhere to sell, chickens are laid in poultry farms as they have them there ration, therefore, in this situation, we will now definitely see that due to the fact that exports have opened up a little, those producers of products, which... are very tight today , they will gradually raise the prices of both eggs and sugar , especially summer, this is the period of increased demand for sugar, and flour and oil are also booming, that is, all things will rise in price, as a result, you and i will see a little growth in the consumer basket on the one hand, and on the other we will start to receive, well, cheap products from the open ground, that is young cabbage, young carrots, young... young potatoes are not as wildly expensive as they used to be, so all of these things will block

the growth of the food basket to some extent, so i think that in the summer months we will have a plus or minus there 2-3% growth, despite the fact that the structure of the basket itself will change greatly, those products that were cheap will seriously grow, and those products that are expensive today will decrease in price. mr. oleg, i thank you because you praised our editor who wrote these summaries, yes, but very it is also important to explain... in simple language those trends and what the expectations may be in general and to do it professionally. thank you for joining our broadcast. oleg penzyn, an economist, was a guest of freedom morning, and we talked about what is happening today with... the dollar and with the devaluation of the hryvnia. thank you. to our viewers, thank you for being with us, for your support with your likes, your sharing of this content, your comments, it's very important, let's discuss under this video in the comments. my name is kateryna nekrecha, this is svoboda ranok, and good luck to you day, see you tomorrow.

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shape, call now and order a camel orthopedic mattress, instead of the full price of the mattress... pay only half, dear friends, we are back on the air lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, we continue the espresso marathon, and oksana savchuk , people's deputy of ukraine, non-partisan joins us, and you, dear friends, while we discuss, you can donate to quad bikes for our military defenders, gentlemen, you know, i think all the time about the role of... during the war, including, it seems to me, the role of the media is very, very important, everyone can say that everyone's role is important, the most important is the armed forces of ukraine, it is 100%, but the media are important because they control the society , after all, it does not lose then control over the government, which during the martial law it is, can become very loose, especially if the government, you know, there were all kinds of government, i think

that all the authorities in ukraine gravitated towards some authoritarian tendencies, some kind of nepotism, nepotism and... corruption is a fact, but what we have probably the least professional government on average, for example, in the chamber for the entire time, this is also the time of such a big war, yes, and all this is happening during the war, why am i saying all this, our colleagues from ukrainian pravda conducted super, it seems to me, is an investigation into how the authorities suppressed, relatively speaking, took control of ukrinform, a ukrainian agency that was still being created by the ukrainian people's republic at the time in the 18th year. then the muscovites used it, the soviets, everyone who was not there, and now it is used, excuse me, the president's office, and there was a whole special operation there, everything is detailed, how they brought alexei such a matsuku there and how they bent people there, but they bent them badly, because those people do not disagree, read, in particular, they, for example, issued samples of temniks, which

were sent to them by the editors, i understand, from the president's office, and... how different events should be covered, i don't know if you saw, ms. oksano, these topics that i saw, i saw and read this completeness, and you saw it is interesting that , for example, there is a topic of providing social and of humanitarian aid to internally displaced persons, speakers, the head of the regional state administration, svitlana onishchuk, the head of the regional military administration, who can be interviewed about this and so on and so on, unwanted speakers, deputies of local councils from the european solidarity, freedom party. motherland and there are a couple of these, that is, you see unwanted speakers, what do you think about it, you know, i read this article, if... allow me to answer, and i am actually very sad and very sorry that we we are returning to those times, which we

should have already forgotten, including after the maidan, because there are many people who were on the maidan, including those who now perform some state functions, i mean in local self-government, in regional administrations, so i saw a lot. in the ivano-frankivsk region, this is what you say, who should comment, there is the head of the caa, mrs. svitlana vasylivna, i saw a general list of undesirable persons there, look, did you see what was on that list, for example, even the mayor of lviv garden which as if he is not there, no way, no one can say that he is disloyal to the current authorities of kyiv, svyatoslav litynskyi, for example, is well-known, a volunteer, super super. good reputation in lviv, there is sviatoslav sheremeta from the lviv regional council from the eu party, that is, we actually guessed that these lists exist, it

is obvious in principle if you monitor who appears in the marathon and other means that are now controlled by the state mass information, but we now have evidence, what to do with it, does the parliament really need a reaction first, i even today i officially thought to myself. as a people's deputy to still appeal to our committee on freedom of speech, so that it nevertheless reacts and at its meeting examines the given facts of what was published, because it is very important that an assessment be made of this, and this was made public so that such prisoners would not be deported, we understand that most likely they were in many... these, we just saw in the territory of the regions of the western part of ukraine, for me personally, this,

you know, is some such a throwback to the past, that absolutely, not the things that you would like to see now, in principle, this is such a time that you generally want to forget, and today, if someone has not yet understood in any place, in any position, that not... it will be impossible to ban everything, close everyone's mouths or, for example, put them in prison, because there will be no trust in what people read, yes, they can read the government, they can not comment, express their dissatisfaction or indignation since the war , but they definitely draw their conclusions, they definitely see that happens, and you just can't close your eyes to it, and you can't be always kind there or... not tell how good everything is, in fact , we understand that everything is bad, and well, we know about it, we do something, but we the authorities

do not talk about it, so i am convinced that the committee should give assessments, uh, those people who are written there, after all, if they are individuals, they are officials, they should comment, did they do these dark things, did they not do it, i.e. giving your assessment is a completely normal phenomenon. i 'm just, you know, thinking, trying to imagine myself in the place of our viewers, they say, well, these are politicians, then politics, then of course, they are uncomfortable, they say something, that's why they are banned, but i decided to re-watch the biography of svyatoslav litynskyi and thought, what makes him so uncomfortable that, whatever he doesn't want, for him to appear somewhere in the media, a person, a public figure, a teacher, a person who has been defending some... ukrainian position for a long time, this is a person who ensured that our washing machines have instructions in ukrainian,

and that there wrote, will not turn on, turn off, turn on and turn off, still a sinister person of the family, svyatoslav lytinsky himself, as far as i know, he is from the family of the upivites, that is, people who fought for the independence of ukraine and shed blood even in the last century, began. the great war, he is a volunteer, he provides the army with cars, and what else could be like this, and here, and here, for example, and what is interesting in the biographies of those people who were appointed, as stated in the investigation to this of our colleagues, actually such curators, and in quotation marks, that is, as it is called, looking in ukrinform is a state agency, let me remind you again, and in our country, as far as i understand, state censorship is prohibited or not? i may be wrong, maybe already, maybe something has already been changed in the constitution, in the legislation, while there were closed sessions in the parliament, here, well, for example, these two boys, who are now

the... everyone vitaliy vlasyuk and yehor sigarev, in which, the only explanation why they found themselves now and manage, for example, ukrinform, in fact, is that one studied with, that they studied with that zarivna, daria zarivna, also one person is a mystery to me, this is the manager, this is one of yermak's advisers, about whom our colleagues have already written more than once, that she actually has much more. influence is more decisive than, for example, the minister of foreign affairs kuleba, it’s just that we suddenly came to such a structure of the state, which this country did not know before, that is , the country has changed, the country is fighting to be in the european union and in nato, zelensky himself runs, breaks down thresholds and does the right thing in principle and begs us to be given this invitation to nato, well done, but at the same time

his dear friends... are doing everything to prevent us from being accepted into nato, and are doing everything to make us look like russia, as you know, but no one has stopped freedom of speech in ukraine, now these dangerous phenomena are really happening, when is just trying to centralize and control everything, you and i see that a lot of military personnel have disappeared from the airwaves today, because they are forbidden to go out there, for example, to a single marathon. without the approval of the leadership, the military leadership without the approval of the higher general staff there, and the general staff without the approval of the president's office, one cannot launch a person to cover the events that are happening, because everyone wants to control the information space, and fortunately in modern times it is impossible to do that, and that's very good, but really we can't do it such a dangerous thing

when... actually those who are in power today , the majority and in the office of the president, believe that it is possible to insert people into various positions and control everything, you know, the vast majority of those people they put are very cynical people, they don't have any principles, they are, of course, maybe someone there studied with someone at school, at the university, lived in a dormitory, this set of people, he is already known in principle to all of us. who lived there or in the freezing cold or where, and we constantly meet them somewhere in management positions, these are people who are absolutely not professional, i will tell you, and still, for example, the ministry of culture is without a minister, and why a minister, when and yes, the deputy, performing his duties, listens to everything, does everything, is a non-public person, is not at all interested in this culture somehow developed, and in principle, you see, the majority

of it... fits, and even those cases, you remember, when we in the parliament collect some signatures, demand something, unfortunately, so far we have very little, i hope that everything after all, there will be a part of the people's servants who will simply finally put an end to this, because we are gathering votes to put an end to it at least in that sense, at least, if only to tell the government that enough is enough, we can no longer to look at it and look at your unprofessionalism is simple. at the very end and wanted to say that today we found out that in chernihiv the regional theater, the same one that was bombed by muscovites, and now it is being restored, completely canceled all performances, because they mobilized all the actors, even the 56-year-old honored there and so on, all of them are sent to front, with all this, with the same corinform, all the new employees who were brought in, this young team of matsuka, i actually wanted to say this,

that eh... how now this armor has become a manual tool of pressure of this dictatorship, which is established in essence, this became a tool repression of the gagging of all those who speak the truth. ms. oksana, i think that we will continue this conversation with you, thank you for participating in our broadcast oksana savchuk, a non-factional people's deputy of ukraine was with us, and now we are watching the news, kateryna shirokopoyas has a fresh selection and is ready to tell you, what has happened in ukraine and the world in the last hour. greetings lasya, greetings andria, in a moment i will tell you that... the number of victims has increased again as a result of a rocket attack on a hypermarket in kharkiv and why the president of georgia spoke about the referendum.