and editorial intelligence and targeting aircraft, which will provide targeting , including for the f-16. that is, i am considering the decision on the transfer of such aircraft, including in the systematic preparation for the transfer of f-16 aircraft to ukraine and their effective use. how will the appearance of these aircraft change the nature of the russian-ukrainian war and will it change the nature of this war, because there are many expectations from the f-16, and will the armed forces of ukraine receive that effect from the transfer of these aircraft? well, if we now look at the nature of hostilities, on any part of the front, that is, it can be kharkiv oblast, donbass, zaporizhia oblast, and kherson oblast, the russians now have dominance in the air, they use up to 100 or more cabs per day, and such in such a way they can... ensure

the advance of their assault groups or other forces not quickly, but gradually, simply by destroying ukrainian defensive positions precisely because of the use of the same cabs from the russian aviation, this becomes possible because we simply do not have the tools, for example, i will kill fighter aircraft with sufficient missile, strike and radar capabilities, as well as a sufficient number, of course from inter... long-range missile systems such as the patriot. f-16s change this picture, that is , potentially f16s can drive away, roughly speaking, the russian aviation from the boundaries of the use of the same cabs, and this will immediately affect the situation on the battlefield, that is, the russians will be able to use only artillery, only strike drones, but will not be able to use cabs, which are now the main breakthrough, yes so to speak, by force on the battlefield.

nato secretary general jens stoltenberg, mr. mykhailo, during a speech at the nato parliamentary assembly in bulgaria, stated that the allies of the alliance have not fulfilled most of their promises, which related to the supply of artillery shells, air defense systems and other types of weapons to ukraine. let's listen to what stoltenberg said. the problem is that in recent months we have not delivered to ukraine what we... promised, the united states spent six months negotiating a new aid package, the european allies, who promised 1 million munitions, did not deliver anything even close to this amount of munitions for ukraine. mr. mykhailo, how would you characterize the reasons why our western partners, well, let's say, are constantly delaying the provision. weapons

to ukraine, they are counting on the fact that at some stage putin will go to freeze the military conflict or the war along some lines, and they will have to negotiate at least a temporary peace, and they do not want to get involved in this war, or are there any other reasons, i.e. our western partners are not are keeping up with russia's military-industrial complex, if you compare... members of the nato alliance and russian potential, can we now say that the arms race that putin is leading, that putin is winning in this arms race so far? i wouldn't say that, in reality , putin is not winning, unfortunately, the general situation is winning, again the indecision, the indecision and cowardice, i would call it, of our westerners. it even now makes it possible

to feel some superiority of russia, that is , in fact, russia is now prevailing on the field battle with the same ammunition, due to the fact that it is possible to use such a conglomerate, north korea, iran, china, and everyone participates in this system, in their directions, someone supplies kiran, for example, attack drones, someone supplies. supplies, like north korea, someone provides raw materials, microelectronics, supplies, other components, and in addition provides money to russia, because russia sells oil to china, earns yuan, and then starts this system, it is these yuan that spin and allow to produce ammunition for russia, north korea, that is, i would not say that it is the military-industrial complex of russia that is doing such a great job, it is absolutely not... not the decisive policy of our western

partners, who allow this system to be financed, this system to operate, and against this background there really are many. reasons why our western partners cannot ensure the same effective functioning of the western, let's say, defense-industrial complex of this system. the united states had its own turbulent six months, but i have this impression that while there was turbulence in the united states, the european partners also expected for some reason that suddenly ukraine would surrender, suddenly ukraine would not be able to withstand this for six months and would start talking about negotiations, and... and then it would be possible, in principle , to freeze the war, end it and then it will not be necessary either to launch the military-industrial complex at full capacity, or to support ukraine by spending billions of euros and so on, but ukraine howled, the united states, again due to internal political

reasons, was forced to make decisions on allocation of 61 billion, and in these conditions it can be noted that here literally. the last few days show that the countries of europe, the european union, have also begun to actively join in allocating aid, literally every day there are news: spain, portugal, belgium, sweden and so on are allocating, great britain, france are allocating new and new packages of aid to ukraine. it seems that everyone finally understood that ukraine will not surrender this year, that is, at least until the end of the 24th year. we must continue to help. the 25th year will already be the end of the pre-election campaign the united states will see, but in the 24th year , russia failed to convince our allies that ukraine could surrender, failed to break through the front, failed to ensure

russia's superiority on the battlefield, even under the conditions that china is also actively involved in supporting russia , economically, and in terms of raw materials, microelectronics and so on, i said. therefore , i think that now the situation will change, but these six months were really very, very difficult from the point of view of assistance, well, today , by the way, there was information from the czech partners who said that in fact the czech initiative is very poorly financed, that is , the first projectiles are already on the czech initiative, that is, let me remind you, this is the purchase of ammunition for ukraine at the expense of investments from the european union in third countries outside the european union. very few funds, that is, the first shells will be allocated in the coming days, but of those countries that have declared their readiness to finance this initiative with 1.5 billion euros, for a million plus shells, very few real ones have been allocated so far

funds, and today the czech side called on those countries that expressed a desire to finance the czech initiative to fulfill their promises. mr. mykhailo, the discussion is being conducted against the same background, and it continues, and today, obviously, and tomorrow this discussion will continue about whether the ukrainian army has the right to strike the territory of russia with western weapons, the weapons of our western partners. to date, 10 countries have declared their position that ukrainians can use these weapons, but it is obvious. one of the main solutions that can be and which will put these dots on the di - it should be the decision of the united states of america, our main partner and our biggest partner, like washington's decision to

provide such an opportunity to the ukrainian army, how will it change the situation at the front? well, in fact, really, the leader of the western world, the leader of nato, which in... actually provides 80, about 80% of the resource and military plan , the alliance has a categorical, radical influence on such decisions, well, for example, on the use of weapons, western weapons against russia , and for now again about this one indecisiveness would like to say that the indecisiveness of the biden administration, it plays just as badly and affects the passage badly. by our other allies, that is, if we were to imagine the decision of the united states, of the biden administration, that ukraine of course has the right to strike on the territory of russia, because, well, i will just now illustrate what it looks like, that is, at the moment, for example, there is a certain

group in the direction of sumy, and so far they have not crossed the border, these servicemen are russian, their equipment may be located, let's say, 500 m... border, and you can't hit there with american or other western weapons, when they cross the ukrainian border and occupy part of the territory, it turns out that now you can hit these russians. soldiers and armored vehicles, so what is the logic, that is , the united states, they encourage russia to attack ukraine, well, it turns out like this, that is , when russia enters the territory of ukraine, but they are simply invited, enter our territory, because the americans say so, and then we we will have the right to fight with you, and while you are on your territory and prepare your group, coordinate, place the artillery. pull up other troops, we have no right to strike on this territory, that is, until you

occupy our territory, we cannot, we cannot destroy you, complete nonsense, complete delusion, and frankly, i cannot justify or explain, argue, even if the united states wanted such decisions, of course, they have a destructive effect on the position of the alliance and on the position of other nato and non-nato member countries that help ukraine, that is... the united states has to be categorical and absolutely clear, if according to the un charter, ukraine has the right to strike russian territory for the purpose of self-defense, because they are simply climbing and demonstrating that they simply want to occupy other territories, not only those territories that they occupied, other territories from other directions, then ukraine has the full right according to all international norms to strike any. with what weapons, and here the united states is showing a completely incomprehensible position,

frankly, i can't explain it. thank you, mr. mykhailo, by the way, this was mykhailo samus, a military expert. friends, we continue our work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, and throughout the broadcast we are conducting a poll, we are asking you whether putin dares to use nuclear weapons, yes, no, on youtube everything is quite simple if you have please write your opinion in the comments under this video. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote. if you believe that putin will dare to use nuclear weapons (0800-211-381, no), 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program and we will sum up the results of this vote. and we have oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the parliamentary committee on issues. of energy and housing and communal services, mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you and thank you for being

with us today, congratulations, i am glad to be with you, thank you as well. let's talk today, mr. oleksiy, about the situation in ukraine energy industry, it is clear that the russians are striking and will obviously continue to strike our energy facilities, but today there was information about an increase in the price of electricity. energy, for some reason the media reports about this, referring to some of their sources, rbc of ukraine, the ukrainian truth, they have some sources in the government, they say that from june 1, the government plans to increase the electricity tariff for household consumers by 80% , which consume more than 100 kw per month, and for such for household consumers, the tariff will increase from uah 2. 64 kopecks to 4.80 kopecks. for consumers who

consume less than 100 krif, 2.64 will remain unchanged. can you explain to me why ukrainians are informed about this by some unnamed sources in the government through mass media, can't the minister of energy or the prime minister of ukraine clearly explain what awaits people in 2 days. can i ask a counter question, but where is our decision-making center? i think it's on the bank street? i think so, i am even sure, i am convinced, and you are convinced, and everyone who understands how the ukrainian government is organized, politicians understand that the final decision is made exactly on bank street, and i revealed the secret to you in the office on the fourth floor, then it is there only in the only office, you explain to our viewers. that this is the office of the president of ukraine, well, of course, of course, that is, that is, the final

version must either be approved or not approved by the president of ukraine, and then it will either become a decision of the government, or it will not become a decision of the government, well, it has been a long time it is known, but unfortunately we saw the targets there were epics of the time with water tariffs, which were initially set there, then there was outrage from the decision-making center there, they were canceled as shameful and so on and so on , that is... what i am leading to, i am not saying it is bad or bad, i'm just saying one thing that i would really, well, wish it was finally recognized officially. you understand, and so that we clearly know that we do not need to listen to what the minister of energy or the same prime minister says there, that their decision is so much more advisable, and then we will wait for what the first person will say, i will trust or not trust this decision, let them justify it somehow, let them show us, or if it is such a blind faith and there is no

need to check, then we will just trust without checking, you understand, because i, as a specialist, and i consider myself... . only to analysts, cyberneticians, statesmen, sorry, and to an experienced professional person, it is very difficult for me to explain this, both from the point of view of energy, and from the point of view of economics and energy, because you understand, yes, there is a technical state of the energy system, and there is the financial situation on the power system, and these are two different things things, they live their own lives, they... absolutely do not correspond to each other, but from the point of view of making state decisions, i completely agree with you, but we are still seeing a discussion, it is not clear between whom, but i want to reassure you, well to a certain extent, it is better, how is it better that you have a bad end, a terrible end, than the horror of infinity, tomorrow there will be a government meeting, that’s for sure, i don’t

know the time, i would really like to know the time, because i asked for this government meeting , i directed the premier. letter, i say: please invite me so that i can have a look justification and ask a question, but i myself wonder whether they will be invited or not, but tomorrow, i think, the decision will be final, whatever it will be, or as you said, everyone already knows these magic numbers, 4.8, 2.64 to 100 kv, it’s like that, well, there is, or there may be another solution, honestly, i’ll tell you what can happen if there is such a thing, well, public dissatisfaction, maybe this... the bar is not 4.8, but the forecast is less than 3, 96, well, what am i leading to and this and that, there will be no justification, only this will be, well, so to speak, as we looked at the ceiling, well, what happened it has passed that it has passed, it will not pass, you understand, mr. oleksiy, but it is clear, why are these wards rising, well, there is a lack

of electricity in the network, it is necessary to recover after shelling, so what is the reason? on this? well, look, i say it again, the technical problems are obvious, something must definitely be restored to the lost power. a key question arises, i have not heard the answer to this question. and according to which financial scheme, at whose expense should it be? because when i hear that the government is going to restore the destroyed energy sector at the expense of the tariff, i want to to say, it is not a wasteland, it is absolutely not... that is correct, it should not be so, because the tariff works in a completely different way, you understand, and to invest your costs in a one-time increase in the tariff, that is, to shift everything to the fact that the population will restore something, destroyed stations, hydro substations, transformer stations, this is absolutely wrong, it is a complete wasteland, you understand, recovery must

take place at the expense of attracting financial resources, or from the state, rather not either, but from... the state budget, external borrowing, donor support, loans international financial institutions and so on and the like, and the tariff should cover the cost of this process, but if it is stretched over time, yes, and this money has to be given for 10 years, let's say, then why do we suddenly have to pay for all this at once? do you understand, i'm not saying that the issue definitely becomes, stands, and the state assumes obligations? some kind of restoration of this energy, because there are also many questions here, and therefore all the arguments that have been going on lately, she, i accept it, i will tell you honestly, this is my vision, i tried to find it there at least there is some logic, there is a cost price, but when i read the government's letter, they write to me that the cost price of electricity from an energy atom there is hryvnia 0.7 kopecks, and i quote

the latter for the justification for this resolution of the last private. and there the hryvnia is 70 kopecks, that is, the cost price of an energy atom has for some reason increased by 70 kopecks in 2-3 months, do you understand? and why are they at 4.8? there is no economic justification, because if you count the cost price, then 3.8, 3.9 are closer to my figure, i am ready to prove it to the government to anyone who does arithmetic in high school, and i call it today what the government is trying to do in terms of energy. tax, a military-energy tax on the population, the consumer, during the state of emergency in the energy sector of ukraine, and, note, i am not... well, maybe during a war, the price of war increases, including for the population, but then you have to understand that if it is a tax, then i want justification, how much money you want

to collect, how you want to use it for restoration, because we are talking, serhiy, about a colossal amount, 35 billion kv a year consumes population, if we increase it by 2 g1, then we increase the tariff. yes, this is an additional 74 billion uah, in addition, you understand, we have to pay an additional 74 billion uah for the year, where are you going to take them, show me, guys, you are able to spend them somewhere on energy, well, i think, i have a huge doubt, that they have appropriate projects, appropriate readiness and appropriate justifications and approvals, well, 100% that this is not there, well, it is possible and that is why, unfortunately, i want to state that here... more myths, more such scarecrows, that everything must be increased it will save or not, and i can't guarantee, and the prime minister can't guarantee, and

the minister of energy can't guarantee that this increase in tariffs will make it impossible to disconnect, make it impossible to limit, make it impossible that we will be without light, there will be disconnections and there will be restrictions , unfortunately, and therefore, believe me, i am extremely dissatisfied and confused and do not accept. what is happening now, i am not a state administration, it is some kind of amateurism, which during the war, well, it, it, it is tragic, on a large scale, well, apparently, mr. oleksiy, it is connected with the monopolization of the energy market, and in fact today we have the number one monopolist - energoatom, i hope you understand, it is in electric power, and in gas - it is nak-naftogaz, in energoatom, it is today against the background of that the thermal power stations are destroyed and... there are also state and destroyed hydrogeneration, well, he has the lion's share, he clearly occupies a dominant position on the market, and in fact, i assure you that 90%

of the lobbying is from the energy atom side of this increase, 90 %, this is exactly the ministry and energoatom demand this increase, and not without showing us why it is necessary, because the rationale does not hold up. no criticism, believe me, there is such a primitive justification on two pages, i would be ashamed to prepare such a resolution. can the current situation in ukraine be saved by this plan, which shmyhal once talked about, that we need 100 or more of these small steam turbines, well, this is not a plan, it is a general slogan, well, slogan, slogan, slogan, slogan are correct, there is no plan, then i have stupid question. premier, how many such stations were installed in the last year and a half, well, they began to attack the power system on october 10, 22, to destroy it. bka was

on november 23, 2022, a year and a half has passed, show what you have already done according to this plan, well, at least you installed one or two stations, which were launched, which also work in the power system, and they are distributed and so on. these are general conversations at the presentation level, completely empty. you see, and their plan was completely different, they presented their strategies in lugano in london, like this detached from life, let's build nine nuclear units, let's go, let's go, only you and me sergey, i'm sorry, well, i'm sure we won't live to this moment, you understand how much time and how much money it takes to build these blocks, therefore , there is no plan, there are slogans like this, well, the space is like this, and it reminds me, i do not hide, by the way, the infamous 20 on 20 program. the sign of oil and gas, when they promised something, 20 billion cubic meters in the 20th year, everything will be just to make the market price for gas, well, remember what happened in the 16th year, well, they made the market price for

gas, no 20 billion, failed everything possible, koboliv and vitrenko made huge money, now they go to court and nothing, and naftogaz is in losses, naftogaz is in solid losses today, i have the same situation with a complete lack of control over active of state-owned companies under the brand of so -called corporatization, because we recently corporatized energy atoms, and you know what corporatization is, it is to hide information about the company's activities as much as possible from the owner, which in theory is you and me, you understand, to conjure as much as possible, you will soon not receive any information from either the oil and gas company or the energy atom regarding the use of these funds, they will operate with some paradigms, market prices. to say what the market prices are in europe and so on and the like. i went through all this, so i'm sorry, i can be emotional, but i explain how skeptical i

am about this decision, though. i understand, i will tell you honestly, i conclude that in principle, probably yes, there is not enough money for the energy market now, that some kind of increase was necessary to do according to a different scheme, absolutely, first of all for the wealthy who consume a lot of electricity, you understand, when there consumption is 500, 1000 kv, they have to pay closer to the market price, those who consume 150 kv, i would generally i didn’t replace them, because it’s for... security, you understand, in this situation, i would have left them the old price and so on and the like, but this was not done, by the way, 100 kw, so ask your friends, who fits all these 100 kv hours on i think that no one 10, well somewhere up to 10%, it this is a lonely pensioner in a one-room apartment, who saves on everything, sits in the dark, cooks food once a day, without a washing machine,

without everyone. ukraine can be restored at the expense of investors who can compensate for the damaged capacities in two or three years with the development of green distributed energy, but this will happen under the condition of liberalization of prices on the electricity market, as well as the creation of transparent conditions that would allow investments in energy to pay off in theory . if it really worked here a full-fledged market would be with a minimum of state regulation, there would be guarantees for investors, they would enter, and these are sufficiently profitable projects, they pay off in four, 5-6 years, but this primarily leads to market pricing, primarily for the population, and what is market pricing, look at the price of electricity in neighboring poland across the border or in slovakia, and the same price

will be offered here tomorrow. i ask mr. kudrytskyi at the meeting: volodymyr, is it realistic or not, tell me whether to introduce the polish price for electricity we have, well, they are probably so unrealistic, and that's why i come back again, that these are good theoretical slogans, which , unfortunately, have very little to do with reality. and the last thing, serhiy, the last thesis, look, if the government so needs money to restore the state ukrghhydroenergo, the state. trypil station, state zmiiv station, let them do it, they are all private joint-stock companies, let them issue securities, and i do not rule out that i personally would like to become a shareholder, i think thousands of ukrainians would would like to become shareholders of ukrainian energy companies, it would be very good, believe me, this is such a strategic investment, that is, make me a shareholder, i will invest in your company, but why at

the expense of the tariff. i have to rebuild your companies, i don't understand. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for the meaningful conversation, it was oleksiy kucherenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work on the air of the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook. let's look at the interim results of our survey. today we ask you about whether putin will dare to use nuclear weapons. so, the results of the interim television poll are 31% and 60%, 69%. no, in 15 minutes we will be back on the air with our experts, with political experts, maksym rozunny and viktor boberenko, news from our partners from the bbc ahead, we will be back on the air in 15 minutes, stay with espresso.

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