that the americans provide more modern weapons systems. frankly, i agree with the ukrainians and americans like toriland, the former deputy us secretary of state, who said that the united states should allow ukraine to use the weapons provided to attack military targets in russia, not just in ukraine. this is important from a military point of view to help ukrainians, in particular in kharkiv. friends of ukraine insist that the biden administration with... i hope that the biden administration will act in the same way as it acted on long-range atakams, it turns out that ukraine received these long-range missiles without prior public announcement, which allowed the ukrainians to surprise the russians with surprise strikes with new weapons on new russian targets, so it is better to just let the ukrainians act with less words, more action. hopefully that's what the biden administration will do. it seems that

the biden administration is concerned about escalation. i do not understand why anyone should prevent ukrainians from defending their country, in particular, by forbidding and attacking specific places in russia, from where attacks are carried out on the territory of ukraine. there is heated debate in washington about this, and my friends and i are calling on the administration to do everything possible to lift these restrictions, both publicly and privately, and allow ukraine to use american weapons. as she sees fit. dear mr. ambassador frith, are there prospects that the words of the same president macron will be implemented, yes, and the statement was also extremely resonant on the part of general brown, so we understand what is being said about the prospect of the possibility that the military of our western friends and allies will be on our territory, in order to possibly be not only instructors, if we talk about... the seriousness of applying such

a scenario, because president zelensky, well, he said that so far no such offers have been received. president macron is extending support to ukraine in every possible way, and i welcome such efforts. i think it's a good idea now, more than ever, to start looking at different options. recently, there have been many ideas about sending to ukraine technical experts, americans and europeans with technical abilities. i can to ukrainians, in particular for the training of ukrainian soldiers and the repair of ukrainian equipment on the territory of ukraine. there have also been proposals to allow nato units stationed in poland or romania, mostly in poland, to use their weapons to intercept russian missiles and drones that attack targets on the territory of ukraine. there have been several such proposals, but none have been adopted, and yet this indicates that the us and europe are considering options, what... can they do to

help ukraine defend itself? of course, there are many questions being actively worked on in the run-up to the nato summit in washington in july, which is fast approaching. this summit should demonstrate that ukraine's ultimate goal in the future will be nato membership. the us administration and secretary of state blinken started talking about building a bridge to nato. it's not quite a perfect metaphor. however, if this bridge. strong, made of steel, not paper, if it really leads ukraine to membership in nato, and if it is short and not too long, such a metaphor is quite appropriate, it can be a way to push a policy that will actually achieve its goal. we understand that antony blinken is an extremely experienced and purposeful politician, we understand that the entire american administration is experienced and decent people, but when we talk about the adoption of extremely... important decisions related

to strategic armaments, we understand that this decision , this decision of the american president, now it is president joseph biden, yes, we understand that the story with the american aviation with f-16 planes, it drags on and on, we see positive signals, we understand that some of our aviators have already gone through certain training, but we still haven't seen american or... not i know, french or british planes, in which our pilots would be sitting and which would protect our skies, maybe you can say something more about the big discussions, in particular about the allocation of aviation to us, and why i am talking now about american aviation, because it is really about war strategy, yes we do we understand that putin has decided not to spare the russian interventionists, and they are ready to simply exchange manpower for manpower, they are ready... to give five or 10 of their

interveners for one of our fighters, because there is such a thing as a mobilization resource , and our enemy has a much larger mobilization resource than... when we talk about aviation, we understand that we are talking about training pilots, providing fighters and logistics to support them. agree that the us took too long to decide on the f-16. we had to dare to do it in 2022 and act immediately. the delay has taken too much time, so i think some criticism of that is warranted. i do not know the details of the process of providing combatants. fighters, but the sooner f-16s are in ukrainian skies with ukrainian pilots on board, the better for all of us. as for mobilization, the russians have a considerable advantage, which is why the ukrainian government was right to lower the mobilization age. ukraine cannot

afford young people not to serve in the army. i understand that they need to be taught, but ukraine must act quickly to solve the problem of the lack of soldiers. this is not an easy decision, but... it is important, and we cannot ignore it, it is ukraine's decision. the united states, europe can help with weapons, and i fully agree that we should do more. now that congress has voted in favor of aid, we need to make sure it gets to ukraine as quickly as possible. the russians are trying to break through in the north and east before the weapons are fully delivered to ukraine. we must act, we, in europe and the usa, must do more and act more quickly to help ukraine stop the russian offensive. we have to do it urgently, and i think that it is the united states that should give the impetus to get the weapons to ukraine as soon as possible. the law on lendlis and the prospects of

its application as a certain auxiliary tool. whatever tools are used, we have to make sure that the weapon gets where it needs to go. we all need to provide. to ensure that resources are available for ukraine in the future, the biden administration is trying very hard use as many frozen russian assets as possible, those that the us, europe and the g7 blocked after the february 2022 invasion . some progress has been made, but not enough. we must make it possible to take as much of this money as possible and use it to help ukraine. this must be done quickly. there is money. dear mr. ambassador frith, the issue of money, so we understand that hundreds of billions of dollars of russian funds are frozen in the world, and we understand that the war is not only about human resources, not only about military resources, this is also about financial

resources, and we understand that this issue is extremely painful for our enemy, so we understand that the russian oligarchic economy was built. in particular, to keep the money stolen from the russians abroad, and more than 300 billion dollars are waiting until they can help us in ukraine fight against unprovoked aggression, but we understand that it is also possible that we are talking about additional sanctions packages, on a very large scale pity is a feeling, yes, in particular, well, we were surprised in ukraine by the reaction of national security adviser jake salev, to which he said: why shouldn't we hit oil refining facilities in russia when we talk about the use of drones, especially given that russia has almost destroyed all of our thermal power plants, i.e. they purposefully struck each time so that ukraine would be in

the dark. the us and the j7 must reach a consensus on using as much of the frozen russian assets as possible. we have to use this money. to compensate for the consequences of unprovoked aggressive war of russia. regarding sanctions, there are additional steps that should be taken. i believe the biden administration is looking into this matter, and some of my friends will be discussing with the administration what more can be done to put pressure on the russian economy. we must consider all the levers at our disposal to push russia out of ukraine and weaken its ability to wage war. russia is tough and dangerous. who but ukrainians should know about this? we in the west must understand that russia will not stop in ukraine. if putin succeeds in ukraine, he will quickly move on. he threatens the baltic countries, it threatens moldova. there are reports of the work of russian

agents who use methods of disinformation and actual sabotage, particularly in western europe. russia under putin is a huge threat and we must act. dear mr. ambassador frit, we in ukraine do not believe in putin, i think no one in the world believes in putin, but he regularly gives one or another false signals about the preparedness of butzimba. russia before certain changes. and at the same time, all his followers always say: "well, taking into account the realities on the ground." it's going that russia would like to leave behind the temporarily occupied territories. we understand that this plan does not work. well, in any case, in one of his latest statements, putin again mentioned the istanbul agreements, although we understand that they were not agreements, because they did not receive the proper signatures and acceptance. well. at least in ukraine, but if we talk about putin's signals, what he means, and maybe

russia is just putin not showing it, would actually be ready for some serious, substantial concessions. currently, i believe that russia has absolutely no interest in any serious negotiations to end its war of aggression. they just cynically look at the proposals in order to use them to their own... advantage, if the russians are serious about negotiations, they will know how to conduct them. the basis of the negotiations should be the ukrainian 10-point peace formula, and not the russian statement that the negotiations should begin with ukraine's recognition of russian conquests, part of its territories. the russians are not serious about the negotiations, they can become serious only when they feel that they are losing, that is, when the balance of the battle shifts in favor of... the country. military exercises using tactical

nuclear weapons announced by putin. are these some warning signs, or could it really be something more serious? i think that putin is using the possibility of nuclear escalation to once again intimidate the united states and europe. but i don't think he will get anything out of it. in the fall of 2022 , the kremlin also threatened to use nuclear weapons. and i think that... they sent it to the russians a signal that if they dare to take this step, there will be a quick and nasty response from the us. i believe that the united states told the russians that if they used nuclear weapons against ukraine, the united states would attack russian positions inside ukraine. of course, this is just my speculation, but we know that the russians have backed off, they are taking it seriously. perhaps putin continues to try to intimidate the united states and the west with these nuclear exercises. but we should not give in to such pressure. yes, russia has nuclear weapons, but so do we. well and

one last question, mr. ambassador. washington nato summit. this is how we understand that there should be one or another proposal for ukraine, taking into account what is happening now on the front line. but we understand that the euro-atlantic community, in this case, when we are talking about ukraine's full membership in nato, it shows some... caution, so what are the prospects, especially taking into account the positive experience of sweden and finland? the issue of ukraine's accession to nato definitely worries many people, including in the biden administration. i doubt that on summit, ukraine will receive an invitation to start accession negotiations. for example, the former prime minister of denmark and the former secretary general of nato, anders fakhrasmussen, advocates the beginning of negotiations. breach with ukraine. frankly, i think it's a good idea,

but i don't think the biden administration is ready for it. however, unlike last year's situation before the vilnius summit, the biden administration is now talking about a bridge to nato for ukraine. i know that many ukrainians do not like talking about this bridge. they want an invitation. i understand that, and on some level i certainly agree with him. however, there is a possibility that at the nato summit in the usa. and other members of the alliance will make it clear that they are serious, because european security cannot be complete without ukraine in nato. leaving ukraine in the gray zone is a formula for instability and a potential invitation to further attacks by russia. therefore, i think that progress will be achieved, the issue of ukraine will be the main issue at the nato summit. much will depend on how the events on the battlefield and the united will develop. states need to send a clear signal that nato will firmly stand by ukraine and adhere to its

principled position that the future of ukraine lies in nato. thank you very much, mr. ambassador fries, for this extremely important conversation, and thank you for all that you have done and are doing to support ukraine, not only in the american administration, but in the world in general. and i want to remind our tv viewers that daniel frith, an american diplomat, was currently working on espresso. former coordinator of the american state department on sanctions policy. hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day. this is the shipping district of kherson. turn on live. we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. now

, roman bezsmertny, an iconic ukrainian politician and diplomat, will be working on the espresso tv channel. glory to ukraine, mr. roman, i congratulate you. glory as a hero. good afternoon, mr. antin. well, the situation at the front is extremely alarming. we understand that the enemy has concentrated sufficient manpower and artillery resources to attempt to capture additional bridgeheads. they created two military bridgeheads in the north of kharkiv region, right? and we understand that putin is active for a reason. in its aggressive line, and we understand that the summer will be extremely difficult, and at the same time we see another trend, yes, the people's deputy of ukraine, mariana bezugla began to very actively criticize, i am putting it so mildly, the higher military leadership, generals sodol, syrskyi, bargelevich , pavlyuk, tkachuk and so on, i.e. for everyone

of them she found a few kind words in quotation marks, we understand that... this does not have a very positive effect on the motivation of the higher generals. mr. roman, what do you think is happening now and what is the right and wise thing to do in a similar situation? i can say that from the information that i read, from the analytical materials of the western, ukrainian forces in russia, there is no repeat of february or even similar things of last year with attacks, what is accumulated there is not a potential, serious a threat, although, as you rightly said, the bridgeheads have been created, and the front line has stretched, this is a danger, but there is something to fight with this danger, especially considering that the arrival of aid will increase, and potentially the general

staff, as what information gets into it, both from... foreigners and from ukrainian specialists says that the armed forces of ukraine are capable of resisting, but in the current situation , the fact that politicians, or non-politicians, i would say so, are beginning to interfere in tactical tools, in personnel policy and so on, definitely brings more damage, the more that these words are not... these people, in fact, all understand very well that both maryana bezugla and all the others from this constellation, they are inspired, they receive instructions directly from the bank, and i do not always agree with what mr. president or mr. yaermak says, because

different sources can be seen in this situation, because it is like a list of surnames. it changes all the time and is voiced differently, and the temperament and reasons and claims against these people are highlighted at different times depending on what is happening, well, let's say there were accusations made against a certain person and after this jump, such a hop appears informational, that is, for those who are constantly watching, it indicates that we are dealing with ... certain attacks that, not only that they cause damage, to the higher command staff, to the generals of the armed forces forces of ukraine, they harm, including the middle command staff, they harm the armed forces of ukraine. when the officers speak, when the military speak, by the way,

words that we see less and less, which is very dangerous. this is one. business, because you can understand them, they see how their people are dying comrades, they see how their subordinates die, and their high notes can be accepted and explained, but when the style, those who do not understand what it is, begin to pour mud, or the generalship, or the officer corps, or certain units of the armed forces, or to propose various crazy solutions in the verkhovna rada. all this indicates that it is not only among the tactical environment that there are those who provide information about movements. these units provide information about objects, which we very often see in the means of what is detained first, second, third, fourth person,

it is much worse when people with status say it. it is clear that you can put bezugla next to merger green and say on the principle, as i often do, that, well, there are always those in the family... who are weak, and maybe, because we poles say the word like this, in relation to such people, weak, i.e. here, whether he is weak or he is sick, here everyone chooses, chooses a conclusion for himself, but these things are very dangerous, because they not only demoralize society, they demoralize, demotivate people, they demotivate the higher command staff and so on, but the danger of this signal actually indicates... the fact that there are a considerable number of people around the president who do not know where to stand in this situation, so they start clear sabotage work, because

such work causes enormous damage to the ukrainian state and ukrainian society. moreover, it is clear that such things affect the external contour, they are heard, they are seen, and they cannot be ignored. because let's ask ourselves the question of yesterday lessons, but wasn't the weakening of cooperation and assistance to ukraine the fact that in washington in brussels they knew that and frankly understood that general zaluzhnyi would resign, pay attention to how these two trends coincided, because, if we read the economist build, so... in fact, since the spring of last year , they wrote about it, and by the fall, activity and assistance decreased, decreased, decreased and so on, and

so on, and similar things, they understand the swings of the pendulum, these are all trends that are happening and they perceive them as politicians , as serious politicians, and understand that they will follow this consequences, because personnel changes, including tactical changes, and so on... this is primarily a responsibility when we talk about the top command staff, well, it is also about certain strategic decisions on the front line, in particular, when we talk about concentration in to certain places of the resource and so on and so on, and the plus, of course, is communication with our friends, partners and allies, but we understand at the same time that war is also about managerial competence, that is, we understand that a person can be good colonel or good major, but in order to manage the fronts, or to carry out, for example, the strategic deployment of troops, their interaction and so on, this must be experience,

our army, well, it is difficult to turn it, you understand, into a tsahal, yes, although we see separate units that work successfully, and no worse than israel's various services, well, but in any case, our army is what it is, yes, and the process of its reform, it needs extreme... caution, well any army is, first of all, officers, and this must be understood and be very, very, very true careful, but i was not among and will never be among the command staff, but i was among the government, government officials, i know what it is like to make a decision there, and i understand what it is like when you are constantly in conditions of lack, scarcity, and what is it like when you are responsible for the fact that someone will receive help in extreme conditions, and someone will simply not be given this help due to the fact that you made a decision, this is a colossal responsibility, from this you must understand that

when there are similar messages, they carry a very big danger, once again i want to emphasize that it is one thing when citizens speak, and the effect of this is completely different, it is when high-status persons speak, these are very dangerous signals. and they are dangerous both inside the country, and even more dangerous on the external contour, because they are seen, heard and understood by the addressee, where it comes from. we now have a colossal challenge that will be formed at the swiss peace summit, yes, where they will be discussed, yes, as far as i understand, different framework scenarios, i doubt that this or that specific public decision will be made, well, except purely proto these things, yes, but there will be, so to speak, a consideration of different scenarios, both of the conduct of the war and of stability on the continent, and given your enormous

diplomatic experience, mr. roman, i would ask you now to analyze in advance what are the dangers that are trends in various environments, for example, western elites, and in general, how will we be after the chinese trip to central europe and france, and how will we be after the visit of the russian scumbag to beijing? let's put it this way, i have more modest expectations than mr. antine because of what you have emphasized now, from my point of view. a lot will be said there, it will be said more and more openly on the sidelines than in public, and this is also understandable, the result, the macro result of the forum will be some document, some documents, it must be understood that this is both good and not quite good, i will explain why, because if there is no document, this case in general indicates that

they met to no avail, although ... they talked heatedly, but the presence of a document, i will now ask you a question and myself, and what about this document, the moscow führer, the tehran yatola , or the red chinese dictator will implement, no, he will not implement it, just as they did not implement the resolution of the un general assembly of november 7, 2022, where they were'. cardinal and sharp demands to stop aggression, since they did not fulfill the resolution of february 23, 2023, where these demands were repeated, and in fact the 10 points in question, peace formulas, are included there, there is only one position regarding ukraine's accession to nato , everything else is written there, so

it is clear to me that a... 160 or 150 will be collected, and although, as we remember, there are 193 members in the un, so maybe the roman pope will be there, rather , there will be the ecumenical patriarch, for me the only question is that the ecumenical patriarch and the roman pope will sit, but the ecumenical patriarch will remember remember that in havana in 2016, the pope signed a declaration with... the patriarch of kirill, and not with the ecumenical patriarch, this will hang over this table, and the entourage, such as matteo zupi, have been in operational development for a long time fsb, i mean papyrimska, well, here are the details, here if you and i sat down, we would not have spoken all these details in a week, which speak about what is really happening in the world now, everything that you and i talked about in the first part

at the front, she is in it... including is connected with putting pressure on this forum, i.e., putin's activation at the front, this is the protuberance of aggression and the intensification of meat assaults, in particular in the north of kharkiv region, this is , so to speak, putin's attempt to disrupt the swiss forum, not only to disrupt and change its content, note that if take the washington post, the new york times, bild, the guardian, career of a sir, everything that today... every day he writes, writes, writes, writes, writes, and at the end there is always a paragraph, and at this time putin is preparing another, colossal, huge offensive, no matter how much they are told about something there, there are two battalion groups, there is one battalion group, these are not the 2000 who were at the borders in 2022, no one is interested in this, and i, i them i do not condemn, it is their right to write what they consider

necessary, we, in this situation, need to... to do their own thing, but it will affect the situation, including the content of the document that will be adopted. i am for the fact that next, and not only at such forums as the un general assembly, where binding documents are adopted, including at such forums as the global peace summit, another resolution, statement, decree should be adopted that whatever but i know that these resolutions and decrees will have to be implemented by those who adopted them. and now the important question is how to force the moscow führer, the red chinese dictator, the fundamentalist ayatollahs in tehran, this crested, chubby, and belarusian

, this... ka collective farm further on