developments, because if the profits of producers are severely limited, of course, their ability to invest this capital in the latest developments will simply not be there. at the beginning of the conversation, you mentioned that the issue of exporting products that are not purchased by the ministry of defense has not yet been settled, that is, in fact, as i understand it, enterprises still consider it expedient to have the opportunity to export, and the power structures are still demanding a solution this question, so she? looks like, i wouldn't say that the issue here is only in power structures, it's in in principle, there should be a political decision so that all types of weapons that our army does not need, or for which there is currently no money to buy in the budget, should be admitted to the international market and sold there by our partner countries, where ukrainian drones are needed, unfortunately, this decision has not yet... been made, i

have not seen any procedures developed within the state that could facilitate this process, unfortunately, although this is a very important issue, in particular, so that enterprises have more money in order to to invest them in developments within the country and not to go abroad, not to relocate. we, as an association, have developed a legal procedure that we recommend the ministry to consider, i hope that working groups will appear there, regarding this and... we are ready for dialogue and ready to support and help with a legal position to make this happen. you briefly mentioned the relocation of a defense industry enterprise, is this story becoming more widespread, or has it somehow stabilized, in particular your enterprises that are part of the association, to association of yours, do they all strive to have, relatively speaking, such sites on the territory, well, in particular. countries

of the european union or other countries, what do the directors of your enterprises think about this issue? i'll be honest here, unfortunately, i don't see a tendency for manufacturers to predictably work in ukraine, on the contrary, this degree of unpredictability of risks is growing, due to mobilization, due to closed exports and admission to the international market, due to the lack of predictable ones. procurement for several years ahead, these are the main factors that are still forcing producers to think about relocation, of course everyone makes the decision independently, there are enough producers who take a patriotic position, stay in the country and work in conflict, and not thanks to here, but of course this is such a heroic act, because the industry is very difficult and is it difficult to find resources to especially develop new technologies? do you feel

such fleeting competition from western manufacturers who appear on the ukrainian market over time with products similar to those produced by our enterprises? to me it seems that this is a very good trend, that the ukrainian market is interesting for western companies, there are examples of western companies entering ukraine, locating here and even manufacturing their products here, we are such... examples are very supportive, in particular in the technological forces of ukraine there are several manufacturers who have done exactly that, and we are adding them to our association, ukrainian enterprises, because it is cool, really, when western companies start working in ukraine, paying taxes here, so from the point of view of private sector, this is a very positive trend there, and i do not think that there is a big risk for the local manufacturer, on the contrary, it strengthens our companies, because they can partner with western companies and... have their experience,

if i understood correctly, that is, there are foreign companies that joined your association and want to create enterprises here, and you support them in this, yes, but these are not foreign companies, legally they are already registered in ukraine, that is, if some international player wants to enter the ukrainian market, registers his company here and supplies the product to the ukrainian army, of course we support it. such companies, teams, and we are happy to work with them, panikaterina, thank you for participating in your broadcast, for what your companies make, well, products that are extremely necessary for our armed forces, and i will remind our viewers that it was kateryna mikhalko, executive director the association of technological forces of ukraine is an association of enterprises that manufacture products for the needs of the armed forces, these are mainly private enterprises. these were the main military accents. days

vasyl zima will continue the broadcast, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you very much to serhiy zgurets, thank you to his guests, and now we will continue with a lot of interesting and important information ahead, and now i will ask you to join the collection that is in progress, which i believe we will be able to finally close in the near future. we are asking you to join the collection for the repair of heavy armored vehicles in the combat zone in the soledar and zaporizhzhia directions. the repair and restoration regiment works mainly on the contact line or in the so-called the gray area is just the sky. in any weather , day and night, so for the emergency recovery and return to the battlefield of damaged military equipment, in particular, we are talking about tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, a minibus is needed to deliver mobile, repair teams and equipment to the combat zone, and we also pump hydraulic jacks for

the prompt repair of foreign equipment, our goal is unchanged 630 uah, well, i will literally in a few minutes until we, after we talk with our guests, announce the amount we in... managed to collect, and in any case, you have already collected more than half of this amount, for which i am very grateful to you and grateful that you actually join our call every time and support the armed forces of ukraine with your money . now one second. we will talk about chernihiv oblast. chernihiv region actually, both at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, and to this day remains a key and strategic direction, the direction from which it speaks. can make his attacks, can even try to go on the offensive, so the situation there is normal must be under control and cannot help but be tense, and besides, let me remind you that chernihiv region still, as they say, has not recovered from the wounds inflicted by the enemy at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, ivan

ivan vashchenko, deputy head of chernihiv region of the regional military administration, mr. ivan, i congratulate you, good evening, well, let's start with the fact that the enemy attacked chernihiv oblast, shelled. four villages on the border, there were several dozens of shellings, if possible about the consequences of these shellings, and what the enemy mainly uses to to attack chernihiv oblast, it is mortars, barrel artillery or some other means of destruction, please, well, the enemy does not stop trying to attack chernihiv oblast, every day we hear explosions on our border, just this week. the enemy carried out 28 shellings, that is 160 arrivals, in total, since the beginning of the year, the russians have carried out more than 1200 shellings, that is almost 700 explosions on our border, it just passed, let’s say the first half of this year,

mostly the enemy uses mortars and barrel artillery, there are cases of using kamikaze drones, there are cases of the use of rocket artillery, as it was. er, a couple of weeks ago, the city of snovsk, the center of the administrative estate of the territorial community, was shelled, but we note that the border settlements within the boundaries of the koryukiv and novgorod-siver districts, namely the snovsk, seminyv and novgorod-siver communities, are the most exposed to shelling. i 'm going to ask you, because i can't help asking, now, you know, any information about that. that somewhere roads are being repaired or new roads are being built, especially when it comes to the frontline zone or the borderlands, immediately people start talking about why instead of buying drones or equipping fortifications, they start building roads, but on the other hand, i understand that there are settlements where, say, roads were destroyed

during enemy attacks and people still have to move somehow, in any case , people have to move, in which case the equipment will move, in the border town of chernihiv oblast, roads are being repaired, please tell me more generally about the needs for repairs? well, you can talk not only about roads, but in general, about restoration, because we know very well that we remember, unfortunately, that it caused a lot of damage, and material, first of all, in terms of infrastructure , but also in terms of energy infrastructure, so, if you can briefly talk about roads, what is the need now is the repair of these roads, how large-scale this work is, and the second in terms of restoration, which i understand is still ongoing, because there is a lot to restore, please, it is really a very delicate topic now, especially in the public... public plane, we have to balance between making a living the territory of the chernihiv region and assistance to the defense and security forces, in my opinion , this balance is somewhat maintained, because we do not see any large constructions on

the territory of the chernihiv region, precisely as far as roads are concerned, that is how we restore bridges, because a... even in a bad way the road can be passed, but it is impossible to come over a bad bridge, this improves our infrastructure, and we are also looking at routes where it is... more necessary for the defense forces, so that they have less logistical shoulder to move there and cover certain of their positions there, we closely we cooperate precisely in terms of logistics with units that provide defense of chernihiv oblast, regarding recovery, indeed after the launch of the program, there is recovery . chernihiv oblast is slowly recovering, mostly we are talking about the fact that it is recovering. housing stock, apartment buildings and private estates, there are many large

social projects that we plan to restore as well, project and estimate documentation, but we understand that this is a large resource, and it will be after the victory, obviously, i would like to ask then about fortification, again, no one will release either the volumes of these works, or the places where these works are carried out, the characteristics , again, of those engineering constructions that are being made and fire points there, in any case , we understand that this is what what can not be said, but in general, especially after this loud, unfortunately, tragic story with kharkiv region, i do not draw any conclusions here, and i do not have such a right, a temporary investigative commission has been created, maybe there were no violations, maybe there were other reasons why the enemy succeeded somewhere faster, and somewhere not so fast to advance, but in any case, all the border regions of ukraine, seeing that the enemy can again enter the place where he was expelled from, or where he has already

been, and understand that the need for high-quality fortification and first of all all people understand where these fortifications are, where there are some mini-barricades, where you can walk, where you can't, that people basically understand that even in the event of a second enemy attack on chernihiv oblast, they have time there to at least evacuate, whether these works are ongoing, and just so you know, there were none afterwards the photos that were posted about... kharkiv region, no one even fully explains what this photo is, but photos always evoke emotions when these dragon teeth are piled up by the road, who brought them, some brought them, someone didn't make it install, they shouldn't have installed, you know, no one is interested, as they say, they don't care, they say, you see, they haven't finished it, so it's important here to finish everything in chernihiv oblast, and there was , again, first of all, the opportunity to take a hit , even if the enemy accumulates forces and means there, well, there was an opportunity for people, at least i say, time to evacuate in case of a critical situation again, then according to this and... and and to what extent business and public certain services of the oblasts

subordinated to the oblast administration to the local communities are involved here, first of all possible people for to get involved in the construction of these engineering works, is there such a need and is it used, please, it is very difficult to ask questions, i will try to answer as simply and clearly as possible. i might be a bit dramatic now, but you know, we have one event to another society is filled with experts, at first we saw experts there on the counterattack, now we see experts, engineers on the construction of engineering barriers, i can only say that the work on the construction of engineering barriers is ongoing, it began after the expulsion of the russians from the territory of chernihiv oblast, yes did not stop for a day. to this day and does not plan to stop, fortification, let's say, it is of different types,

of different complexity, of different barriers, of different intensity in all areas, dangerous, those who have determined there the military command, the regional administration, the work is joint, territorial communities, district administrations, regional administration, security and defense forces, local business also helps if possible, the work is systematic, it is not chaotic, we have something somewhere, you know, as we say, we put out fires, no, this work is systemic, i say, i repeat, it started there 2.5 years ago and continues to this day with various degrees of engineering barriers, please tell me, is it obvious that this is an urgent issue? for chernihiv, as for any region where there were enemies who mined the territory, and when they retreated there for other reasons, somewhere it is

more, because for a long time the enemies were there, for example, in the kherson region, the right bank, in the mykolaiv region, in the kharkiv region, they were expelled from chernihiv oblast a little earlier, but whether the problem of mined areas remains and whether this demining process continues, here is the question, of course, first of all, it was important to carry out agricultural work, it was important... you also need to understand, obviously that is here the territory is clean and there is no threat, please. indeed, we find gifts from the russians to this day, and there is not a week that the rescuers or the state special service of transport carry out any demining in the territory around chernigov itself, where the russians stood on the wall, if we talk about the border, then they

add shells to us every day , including unbroken ones, this is really a problem. for our agricultural enterprises, which are located on the border, for the most part, there are still a number of land plots that are not divided into in the depth of the region, uh, also missiles and various russian means of destruction there fly into chernihiv oblast and may remain here, so the demining process is still for us, i think, for years, also taking into account the fact that the war continues and the russians do not stop. not for a day without shelling this or that settlement on the border territory of the chernihiv region. yes, and then there are questions about the state of the energy sector. we understand that the enemy is striking various regions of our country, scheduled shutdowns continue, there are schedules, sometimes these schedules are not they work, let's say, they don't turn off the light. what is

the situation in chernihiv oblast, here the question is not only whether light is given or not, whether there is enough everywhere. resources and opportunities to direct this electricity, as they say, and to deliver it to certain settlements, which restrictions are quite significant for chernihiv oblast, or are they tolerable? this is a very ungrateful topic to comment on the issue of energy itself, they will say that everything is fine, the russians will add something, they will say that everything is bad, they will say what are you doing here, so i, let's say, i will dodge the question and say, we will do everything possible to ensure that... the residents of chernihiv oblast suffer as little as possible from the consequences of russian attacks on the ukrainian energy system. thank you so much for joining, thank you for your comments. ivan vashchenko, deputy chief of the chernihiv regional military administration. well, we understand that in any case the work continues, at one time the enemy caused great damage, great trouble to chernihiv oblast. we know

how many people died, how many were destroyed. and infrastructure, and cultural monuments, and... and farms, heroic were the stories of people who delivered, let's say, food, there are some other things in chernihiv, which was actually a certain time, well, about two weeks during this invasion, chernihiv was in complete isolation, when the bridge was destroyed in complete isolation, and it was very difficult to survive then, and the fact that this area is recovering, that it is living, that it is trying, well, to recover, at least to some... level is very good, and it's also good that the fortification works are going on , you know, in this war, time is of the utmost importance significance, and the lessons are of great importance, again, the temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, i think, will explain over time, even, well, to the society first of all, but i will understand for myself, as for the authority, as for the parliament, what happened in kharkiv oblast, is it possible that there were no problems with fortification there, maybe there were some other

problems, but in any case, well, obviously something happened, if the tsk of the verkhovna rada of ukraine created a parliamentary temporary investigative commission, which means that those areas that today are under the threat of possible russian invasion, this is chernihiv oblast, this is also sumy oblast , this is also kharkiv oblast, but it is still possible from another direction, it is time to reassess something and continue to work more actively, because a good defense is always, you know, ah, a guarantee of what then it will be possible to make a good offensive, the next topic, so we thank mr. ivano once again for the work, first of all, of the chernihiv regional military administration, the community of chernihiv oblast. and for comments for our ether. well, now we will talk, our guest will join us in just a few moments let's talk about disgusting facts, well , obviously, which have been voiced, maybe they still need to be explained to someone, maybe not necessary, maybe everything is already clear, the shameful facts of the return to ukrainian journalism of such a phenomenon as temniks, temniks, as a phenomenon in

ukrainian journalism , i was already working as a journalist at that time, i have been working as a journalist in principle since 1900. in 1998, the concept of temniks appeared under leonid danylovich kuchma, it developed very actively at the time when the head of the administration of president leonid kuchma viktor volodymyrovych medvedchuk was a traitor to the state of ukraine. temnik is such information, such documents are unofficial, which are sent from, well, let's say, then the administration to the president, priyushchenko, it was the secretariat, i don't know about priyushchenko's temniks, so i'm just saying, now it's the president's office, but it's actually this one. the building is on the bank, and the reports are sent, well, first of all to the editors-in-chief, as they say, to the top managers of one or another mass media, on which the government... has influence, obviously, either financial or some other influence, documents are sent, what can be said, what can't be said, and what can't be said, who can be invited to the ethers, who can't be

invited to the ethers, and the facts of the existence of dark people were revealed in such a very respectable, in fact, very historically long, very agency , which made a name for itself, in fact , with very high-quality, cool, long-term work, is ukrinform. during the time of its leadership by such a man as oleksiy matsuka, and now in the mass media in the ukrainian truth there was an article based on this fact about the existence of these dark men, and here they talk about topics, here even were, and this can always be put out, that is , when you receive these temniks, you can always distribute them somewhere, put them out, journalists would not be journalists if they did not do this, and what about topics, the course of mobilization in the territory of the region, the speaker, so-and-so, unwanted, speakers, chief of staff, so-and-so, unwanted speakers, so-and-so, carrying out decommunization and decolonization, they send such information to journalists,

what to talk about, speakers, so-and-so, so-and-so, unwanted speakers, so-and-so and so-and-so, let's say there's a speaker, and so on, and so on, and a lot, that is, it is already in principle, if it exists, and these facts are there, and i think the journalists who voiced it, who made it public, they understand that these facts exist, and if it exists, then it is a, that , what anthony blinkin, the secretary of state, said when he came to ukraine, that you should not become a small russia, or most importantly, after defeating russia, do not become similar to russia, or do not become a different, smaller russia, and, this is important, because the temniks are , well, this, this is the soviet union, this is the dictatorship, this is everything that we are fighting against, actually, well, or what our power. says that we are fighting, because it is not known who is fighting for what, i clearly understand what the armed forces of ukraine are fighting for, for freedom, for independence, for democracy, for our lives, for theirs, for our lives, for the lives

of their families , first of all, they fight, they think about families, first of all, not about me, about, but i am grateful to them, i understand what they fight for, but what certain people fight for, who are sitting on the streams, darkly writing, i don't know, maybe they are fighting for something else, but in any case, the existence of such phenomena as temniki, it’s simple... it takes us back to the time of the late kuchma, well, such an average kuchma, because he had one term and another term, the late kuchma is a different story, but in principle, the ambassadors of the big seven in ukraine became aware of the existence of these temniks in the respectable ukrenform agency, which was actually taken under control, this is again, i am retelling it from the words of a journalist, a journalist who worked at ukrinform, after she left there, was either forced to leave, or did not agree with under such conditions. works, she this information was voiced in general, that is, she took it, and it is very good, in fact, as well as the public at the time, having received from their

information the instruction that let's expand the fate of state channels or state-funded channels on the public airwaves, public is not state television, it's public television, it's what we finance, it's what's done for us, and it's television that's supposed to show our lives, what's... interesting, not what certain people are interested in, e.g. , in the office of the president, whether in the cabinet of ministers, or somewhere else, it would be interesting, and the public then says, then we go out, we expand our slot, well, that is , our time on the air, we will talk about our own, and we will not talk about how everything is good , and we will show how bad everything is, how a certain military man, for example, cannot get medical help, or he is being kicked out, he cannot get some allowances or some other things, or what trouble there is in... in such and such a village , what trouble is there in such a district center, well, it doesn’t sound pretty, it can’t be played to some very patriotic music, and and to call it a victory, no, but this is life, and

the public then set such conditions and acted in a journalistic way, but because journalists are actually free, we don’t need them first of all, i can be a non-free journalist and have much more finances, but free journalists, and you, our dear viewers, need them too , because they say in time, as the espresso channel said: before the big invasion, that there will be an invasion, the enemy is gathering forces, get ready, at a time when someone else was telling you that there are no there are no threats and this is a normal situation, nothing like that happens, but we, free journalists, have always said this, and there is power in this, and in this there is power, and therefore the existence of these technicians, again, it is, first of all, it is like this, it basically crosses out the european prospects, because europe is not only about money, and once viktor yanukovych, when he came to vilnius, we already worked by the way. espresso tv channel, and we were broadcasting from there, uh, and he asked for a lot of money, i don't remember if it was about 60 billion, some terrible amount, he

was told then. that europe is not about money, europe - it's about values, and we won't have much time, but thank god, ms. natalya ligachova, head of the public joint detector media, found an opportunity , contact us, ms. natalya, congratulations, congratulations, i'm here i kept the attention of our viewers as much as i could, but i understand that you will tell more professionally and clearly about this situation, and i will briefly ask, the fact of the appearance, the appearance of facts about the possible existence of temniks in ukrinform, the voicing of this by journalists. how to treat this, what should be the next steps and how did such a phenomenon become possible? well, the appearance of the dark ones took place when a new leader came there, as we understand, he did not hide it , oleksiy matsuka, who was appointed by the president's office last fall, and i can't say that this is such a systemic phenomenon, yes, that is, so far we know about such a...

form, when i tried to submit it in written form, lists of people prohibited from being invited to the airwaves, or the pages of the ukrynforum of people, we know about such things, only on ukrenform, and it must be emphasized that, after all, this received opposition from journalists, some of them we turned to the detector of the media and mass information there, we conveyed this information to the western embassies, a meeting is taking place, and it just happened... then the events are connected with the pressure of the sbu on and the right-wingers there, it is not clear who on the journalists, the investigators of nikolov and the team of bigus , then a meeting was quickly held with the g7 ambassadors, where maryna sengaivska, a representative of form, showed these documents and talked about the pressure exerted on the journalistic team of ukrainform, and this is

definitely the case. it became known immediately in the office president and they retreated, that is, as i understand it, these temniks were an attempt to implement them, but they still could not implement them, well, unlike, for example, there from the time of kuchma, when these temniks were implemented for several years, unfortunately, eh, at the same time, i would still say that i do not think that the journalistic community has shown, well , such a ready resistance, we understand that there is a situation in accordance with it, but... after all, with the contacts that we have were, we asked all the time, well, why don't you go you go out into the public space, publishing this information, well, two positions, the first position is, after all , the reluctance to suspend the positions of ukraine in the external arena, because we understand that now is a war, and any such events are encouraged by the russians there, russian disinformation to be used against ukraine, and well...

secondly, it seems to me that everything is equal to fear, and this stresses me out a bit, because i have been living there for a long time, and i was both a witness and a direct participant in the peasant uprising there in 2002 against censorship in 2004 and in 2010, the movement against censorship, and even then journalists made statements about prisons, about censorship, about attempts to establish censorship, openly, not anonymously, and now even this article... in the ukrainian truth, it is me, well, somewhat everything well, it’s surprising that people talk about it all anonymously, and we ourselves, well , we faced this, that it takes a lot of detectors, i’m sorry, we just don’t have much time, but i ’ll give it a minute more, here’s the key questions for you, for your information, again will not be in your opinion, you have sources of information from where there were instructions, because mr. matsuka is clearly

the executor. if it is proven, again we say hypothetically, it's the cabinet, it's the president's office, it's different, it 's definitely no, no, no, it's definitely , well, the whole story started with the president's office, it's, it's, it's definitely but from certain people in the president's office, because now they say that you are talking about the president again, we are not talking about the president now, we are talking about the office, where there are a lot of different people, where different people, well, according to our information there, according to the information of the another person, for our... information was still relevant to these events by dasha zarivna, we know that she is a strategic advisor to the head of the president's office, but that's all necessary, well, at the same time , she denies all this, and in the comments of the up, for example, that is, it is necessary here to speak more and still bring out either ms. natalya, you know, this is the end of us, or maybe the pressure of the media will give... well, well, we have

a wonderful one, let's say, sir.