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good health again, my name is mykola veresen, as i promised. ivan plachkov, minister of fuel and energy of ukraine in 1999, 2005-2006, chairman of the council of the union of the all-ukrainian energy assembly and an old acquaintance, and i i would say, the second comrade of our program. thank you, mr. ivan, for finding time for us on saturday. yes, congratulations, congratulations, good health to everyone. good health. mr. minister, i have a tricky question for you, not everyone has been asked, for some reason it seems that you know the answers to all questions. look, today. the government says that the limit of marketability is uah 7.5, and then i

have a question, does the government or anyone know how much ukrainians can pay, it is possible to put uah 100 per kilowatt, but people don't have it. money, or maybe people have money for 7.5, that is, there are calculations based not on what the state can and wants, but on what the population can, if the population can pay 7.5, then it is necessary to assign 7.5, if it cannot, then how much it does not assign 7.5, it simply will not pay and the state will not receive the money it needs to support the electricity industry in ukraine, your thoughts, please, mr. ivan of the market economy, plachkov, well, the answer is very, very simple, very gained independence, and we moved to a simple, it on the surface, received, ukraine is a market economy, it involves the formation

prices for goods and services from the cost price, yes, electricity, heat and water are such social services. social services, the life of a citizen depends on these services every, every second, but we also have medicines, which are also a social thing, no less social, there are food products, which are also a social thing, no less, about socialism - it was controlled, appreciated and so on, and all countries, almost all, except for turkmenistan, they... switched to market price formation, in ukraine, unfortunately, for all the years of independence, prices for electricity, water and heat, they were formed, i

say many times, a thousand times already, through the prism of electorate, ratings and so on, and for years the tariffs do not change for years, for 5 years, for six, there are times there... at least , after that, already when the region, when inflation has already accumulated and so on, and the government is still forced to raise the price, well twice, it is such a wrong practice, it should not be done like that, really, well, you cannot raise the price twice, especially now during the war, when the ability to pay, the capacity of people is very low... but we know medicine, they grow, everything grows, that's why there is a civilized formula for forming tariffs, and we have been talking about this for many years, i have also convinced kuchma, leonid danylovych, and viktor andreyovych, everyone,

everyone, everyone, first of all, it means that we must provide for the inflationary component in electricity tariffs, that's all, we have inflation, there is inflation. why inflation affects everything else, and services, goods, medicines, food and so on, but electricity does not apply, this is the first thing, and we understand that prices on primary energy resources, including gas, oil, and coal, they have already grown in recent years, so it must meet its own tariff. cost, yes, you really need to calculate the cost very carefully, how much it is seven or six or five, and it can be done, and raise tariffs, for example, half a percent per month, here is half a percent, if people pay there 300 uah, they will pay

301 , or if even for a percentage per month, it will be 303 hryvnias, 306 and so on, and we will be able to maintain the energy complex, and now we have to choose, especially in today's state of energy, especially after the last missile strikes, when it is damaged... one more, we have to choose whether we want to be with electricity and pay at least half of the cost for so that it is possible, we see what is happening, and at what cost it will be possible to rebuild, restore, and we, we, we are not talking about restoring those power plants there, which... which were destroyed, we say, we need to focus now and

the coming summer is very difficult, which will be , despite the fact that the temperatures will rise, but most importantly, the next heating season is very worrying, and what will we do, how about see the equipment in what condition, we have lost all thermal power plants, which are coal-fired, we will lose , we don't have zaporizhzhia as, we don't have kokhovskaya. we don't have days of progress right now and we've lost the last day , we've also lost generation, so will the budget finance this whole thing, but there are opportunities in the budget, i don't know, and the help that the europeans give us in terms of equipment, they give us help and money and so on, it is not enough for her, because we are destroyed, well, i think more than 60-70%. energy infrastructure, but we currently consume a small amount, we

consume 11,000 megawatts there, at most, about 11,000 megawatts of power, and earlier ukraine consumed 35,000 megawatts on the eve of the war, it was up to 25,000-26,000 megawatts, more than twice as much, but but all the same, there is no such generation, and now we are balancing, we are balancing due to... electricity imports, we are currently buying the maximum that the intersection gives us , there are 1.7 thousand megawatts, and even therefore, at the same time, ukrenergo is already using consumer disconnections, and unfortunately, unfortunately, with such a low level of generation, these disconnections cannot be regular anymore, i said that it would be best if there were disconnections in the fan so that people know that there will be no electricity for 3 hours a day... there will be electricity or two, but now there is no, now there will be

emergency shutdown schedules, this is when the dispatcher needs to save the power system so that there is no total blackout, he will give commands and they will be turned off already, well if not regions, there is a very large number of consumers, and if even this does not give an effect in order to maintain the power system, emergency automation will already work, there is such an emergency. frequency regulation, then all automatics will be turned off, depending on whether it is social infrastructure or not social, so now the situation is extremely, extremely difficult, and the fact that the government made a decision, well, made it, could not have made it, well, i am honest saying, i did not think that they would not make this decision, because we remember the factory, made a decision, and the government and was agreed with the president, and then they left. from this issue, this is an increase, i will say, it will significantly help energy companies, but

unfortunately, it will not solve the issue of stabilization, and we can imagine the autumn-winter period, it's just that i have such a criticality in my head that after all, the cities lived, i understand that there may not be electricity, but it will be hot. there will be heating, so that the houses will not work anymore, so that the batteries will work there, at least a miniborum at this level ukraine can withstand, well, because no one wants me to freeze, it is hard for me to imagine, kyiv with three million people will just start freezing, what to do, now we are talking about kharkiv with 1.5 million, also what to do if there is really no place to just stay in the heat, i am not saying that candles are okay there, there will be... there will be llamas , there will be no more, this will not happen, but at least there will be some kind of life activity so that it remains, this level

is possible in ukraine, that we will endure anyway, that is what i am asking, that we endured, we will endure in any case , there is no doubt here, but i am also worried, i cannot imagine how kharkiv will pass the heating season, and there is no generation that generates heat, there is already with... if there is no electricity, there will definitely be no heat, because how will the pumps work without electricity, that is why the situation is so alarming, and i have already advised everyone many times , to find friends, acquaintances, relatives and so on already today, somewhere in the villages, in district centers,

where there is traditional heating with wood or some other such in order to spend a week there for a period of time. two e, so that it is possible, if there is no heating, so that it is possible to move, take the children there and so on and so on to wait for the period when the energy workers will be able to restore and start up this heat, and utility workers especially need to prepare, because these are the ones who service the houses, that if there is no electricity, the pumps will stop in winter, then it is necessary to drain the water from the houses so that if they freeze, everything, we will restore it later, it will be... alchevs, do you remember what happened there, so the situation, well, i already, i, if earlier i said that it was alarming, i would say now , that it is very, very threatening, and unfortunately eh, no organizational decision is made, neither by the government, nor by the president, from the point of view of the management of the energy complex,

the energy industry must now be transferred to a completely different management system. coordination, it now works, you know, according to such an algorithm, supposedly we have a country with a market, a developed market economy, we have a democracy, just like in european countries, for example, there and now there in poland or in germany and so on, we switched to this model, but this model can no longer work in our conditions, we have to translate it or something martial law, of course. the situation, to appoint leaders who would have the authority and so on, but now, well, i will not repeat myself, i have already said many times that, now, there is no such coordination, because the structure is like this, not because the minister does not know energy, he has no authority, not because the prime minister, well, he doesn't have time, now he is in charge and he can lead, but

he doesn't make decisions, decisions are made in the office of the president, in the office of the president... make decisions, well, there is no responsibility, in the government, well, yes, this is the system, it does not help, it will be difficult, it will be very difficult, but we could do much more now so that we minimize this negative situation, which, which can be, and we do not rule out further strikes on the energy infrastructure, and if on the gas transportation system, we can... some regions will remain without gas, so this is a threatening situation, very threatening. mr. ivan, look, here is ukraine now, the kyiv authorities said that there will be some, what you said, some six local installations, i am in i don't understand anything about this, and they say it's much better, well, because when the generation is in one place, they definitely hit everything, when it's in

six places, well, that's what i understand with my non-energetic mind. but to what extent it can be, so to speak, a survival option, if the west gives 100 such devices that will do something, how much it will help kyiv, kharkiv, odesa, poltava, it will help, of course, but it will not solve the problem, well, six small , they are small, boiler plants, well, they will provide a street like kyiv, well, why... the government she says so, and she should say so, we did what the authorities, they don’t say, here we brought six installations, and we will solve the issue, no, they, they say, we brought, they will help, as much as they will help, they they don't say, and no one, well, maybe you and i would be in power, we too would have such rhetoric, but this, this, this will not fundamentally

solve the issue, unfortunately, because it was necessary. it used to be done, but these installations must be connected, and what is this repair, this is reconstruction work, this is people, this is change the scheme, who will do it, unfortunately, and there is no money, but they, they lack money, and here we raised the tariffs, then the tariffs went up, and this thing is very inertial, for another month people will consume this electricity at these tariffs , then after a month they will start paying both the night and the day. everyone, so this money will start to arrive in two, or in my experience, 3 months, or at least, and already the heating season, that's it, october has already arrived. and we don't know what winter will be like, so i was very worried, i'll say, the feeling so, i'm worried, worried, i don't

feel that some measures, that someone, some committee, some group there, i don't know whether it's a commission or an extraordinary one, worked every day, they made decisions, they said that we made there decision. of stations there, we will restore one block, such a block, the third block, you see, now we have no information at all, what is the balance, what is it, because, because the situation is very difficult, especially after the last strikes on three hydroelectric power plants, i do not know , whether they work or not, there is no one information, i know that, but there is no official information, well, i also cannot say if the organization would be a region. also, you are saying something about the cabinet of ministers, something about the presidential administration, something about the verkhovna rada , something about a ministry, something about a department, if

you set up that scheme of improvement, how much better it will be for me, well let’s say conventionally, i’m just completely lost, but if everything is done perfectly , then, let's say, now the light will be blocked for 3 hours a day, and if it works perfectly. then only two hours a day overlap, or as we can feel what, what to do, who, well, it's difficult to estimate, because we don't know, there will be more strikes, there won't be strikes, well, if there are, i can just say one thing, here's the money that was lost on protective structures , those who predicted, now we will build some kind of defensive designer. and they will protect power plants and so on, it was, well, there is such a ukrainian word blut, or is it a russian word, i just don’t know, but how

in ukrainian, i don’t know, i don’t know, but it very much characterizes the situation, we many times they said, and i said, there are no construction structures that could protect energy infrastructure facilities in the world. no, no one came up with it, the only design is confinement above the reactor of the chernobyl nuclear power plant, it protects against radiation and it cannot protect against missile strikes, why was there so much money to lose billions on an absolutely unnecessary thing, and why did it happen , and because there was no person at the level of the vice-prime minister or in the office of the president, or what? told the president, the prime minister, not to do it this, because this, this, this is not, this, this is an absolutely useless thing, and there is no need to lose

such colossal money, let's send this money to repairs, to restoration, at the same brushtil station, instead of one block , we will restore another one, at the trypil station, one, two, generation, it needs to be, you know, managed, we need one, i can say about... we need to tell the states, let's go there, we need energy, they understood and we would strengthen and protect ours

thank you very much huge ivan plachkov, minister of fuel and energy industry of ukraine, in the past he was the chairman of the board of the union of the all-ukrainian energy assembly, and now we thank mr. ivan, and now we will look at a little plot and i will at least say goodbye to you, and as the government, argu'. raising electricity tariffs, will it help the energy industry, which is being destroyed by the enemy? now there will be a plot about it, and then there will be, and then there will be later, that's what i'll say. good bye. the increase in the electricity tariff for the population did not come as a surprise. massive missile and drone strikes this spring caused widespread damage to the power system, which only partially recovered after the winter before last. when the enemy made energy the main goal. in general, due to the russian attacks, ukraine lost more than six gigawatts of capacity, the ministry of energy notes. winter is ahead. the event

provides funds for repairs, but they are not enough. from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada, minister of energy herman galushchenko warned a week ago that price increases are inevitable. the decision will be made in the coming week, that is, by the end of may. and the question is that today's level, which is today's tariffs, unfortunately, it is not covers, especially considering the losses that the power system has suffered. low in the middle of the week. zmi reported that the ministry of energy has completed the calculations and on may 30 the cabinet of ministers will approve new tariffs: 4 hryvnias and 80 kopecks per kilowatt-hour, if the consumption exceeds 100 kv per month. on may 30, the meeting did take place, but the ministers did not consider any decisions on promotion. instead, prime minister denys shmyhal warned ukrainians that the absence of power outages for several days

in a row is rather a mistake. favorable circumstances, rather than a positive trend. thanks to solar generation, as well as the exit from the repair of two power units of nuclear power plants, planned shutdowns of consumers have not been applied for several days, but this does not cancel the need to systematically save electricity. if a significant deficit is recorded in the system again, ukrenergo will be forced to return to blackout schedules. the hesitation of the cabinet was criticized. if the government is confident in its decision and it is justified and necessary, then what can be the delay in its adoption, fear before the responsibility, which can be a fear, if the decision is justified, sometimes the rejection

of any decision has. far worse consequences than a wrong decision, and it seems to me that this is exactly the case. on the last day of the month, may 31, the cabinet did vote for the resolution, but it already contained different figures. therefore, from june 1, the tariff for the population will increase by 60%, regardless of consumption volumes, and will amount to 4 hryvnias 32 kopecks per kilowatt hour. the preferential tariff was kept for consumers who. apartment with electricity (2.64 kopecks), if the consumption does not exceed 2000 kv per month. it refers only to the heating period, i.e. from october 1 to april 30. kept the night tariff for all ukrainians who have a two-zone meter, 2 hryvnias 16 kopecks per kilowatt. prime minister shmyhal decided not to comment on the unpopular decision, the minister of energy limited himself to a short one.

raising the tariff is a difficult but necessary step. the goal is not to be left without light, to maintain the system. a large-scale reconstruction awaits us, which will require enormous efforts and funds. all this time, the repair campaign at the generation, distribution and transmission facilities continues. those who cannot afford to pay for electricity services at the new tariff will receive help from the state - targeted subsidies. from june 1, electricity will become more expensive for industry as well, by an average of 25%, which means that prices for goods and services will rise. separate history of water utilities, electricity - the main component, cost of water supply. last year, the cabinet of ministers blocked the decision of the nkr to raise water tariffs, however, doing so this year means bringing communal water channels to...