in sevastopol, a wall in russian has been built on the ukrainian-russian border, ukraine is in the eu and in nato, and what will happen behind the scenes there, let the 140 million figure it out, let the chinese figure it out, i don’t know if they chinese will be called russians, it's not really the case for me, it's not that important, well , returning a little to a more serious matter, and it's instructors, not only, minister shikorskyi made a very strong statement about... which in russia simply reacted, well, not so nervously, he said , well, the russians know the price they get put forward by the americans, when they try to use, use nuclear weapons, they will have the entire army that is on the territory of ukraine and not only on the territory of ukraine destroyed, it was the americans who really told them what victoria nulland, who was the assistant of the state secretariat until recently, said. of his time, it seems, until march

of this year, and she told the russians this back in 2022, anton, so when it comes to such a strategic, strategic picture of the war in ukraine, it is already more between more less formed, and when it comes to nato troops in ukraine or nato countries, let's say it like that, nato countries, structures, then i probably paid attention to this first of all, because they won't be, or maybe already. there are instructors in fact, when you look at it, how far the situation will go with permits, no permits, everything that is happening with china and with its support of the russian federation, the americans are saying extremely strongly that thanks to china, russia has been waging this aggressive war for so long without china's support, er, technology, finance, well, some part of... electronics and various devices for

the military-industrial complex, russia would not have the resources to wage this war, and this is what the americans are very clearly declaring at the moment, moreover , they are trying to convince the europeans of such an approach as well, that is, there is an understanding now that the decision on the war in ukraine and russian aggression against ukraine is not made in moscow, but in beijing, and appropriate, appropriate messages are addressed to them. messages are addressed to them such that russia is incapable of winning a war against ukraine, that is for sure, and we will do everything, for ukraine to win these wars. yes, well, but at the same time, going back to the history with the instructors, yes, we understand that their number may not be determined, why we only talk there, i don't know, about 100 or four thousand people, yes, it could be 10 00, 20 tysia, 30 00 and so on, that is, the key story is a decision, a political-military decision, and in particular we understand, if there will already be...

contingents of instructors who will be in charge, i don't know, whether military airfields or something , i don't know , military other logistics, accordingly there may be victims, while about the response to the alleged murders of western instructors, the worst of all, that is, the destruction of civilian infrastructure and the killing of peaceful ukrainians, in particular in kharkiv, it was all predicted, in fact, it is the worst that can be, because everyone who understands at least a little. of this war, the nature of putin's regime and today's russia, well , he realizes that the ukrainian people pay the highest price, and these victims might not have been there, if it had been earlier, everything was set, and now we are talking about air defense systems, not only, but only, i read it in foreign affairs article by andrii zagorodniuk and elton cohen, andrii zagorodniuk is the former minister of defense of ukraine.

an employee of the administration of george w. bush, plus today one of the leading teachers of military history in america, a very authoritative, authoritative person, he directly wrote, in fact, this is what timothy snyder says, the war could have ended in 22nd, russian troops after, after the successes of the ukrainian army near kiev, chernihiv, kharkiv, kherson were 140,000 in october of the 22nd year, and the ukrainian army then in total... and the entire defense sector - 100 00, give weapons, and it would be everywhere, and the same thing is happening today, fortunately , consciousness seems to be a little different, this war can be ended, and it is necessary to limit, limit the victims , and why president macron's statements are so important, and what he said, that general syrsky said yes, mainly the commander of the armed forces of ukraine, that everything has already been signed, and macron said, wait, wait. i

will tell everything about everything here with zelenskyi, but if syrskyi will not tell me there, then he said so, we will talk about everything 6 in june, let's say, when president zelensky will go to the commemoration of the landing in normadia. from normandy, it will be the 80th anniversary of the landing in normandy, then macron, as the master of this, ugh, announces to us the whole world, and how we will finish this war, and now, turning to instructors, security and so on, i remember i guess, i remember very well, the year is 2021, and the discussions will take place or not, british troops, russian, russian, american instructors were on the territory of ukraine then, and a decision was made, first the withdrawal to... washington and london of its instructors, not only them, then the embassy, ​​as you know, and then there was an awareness that in fact the west does not believe in ukraine, the scenario that should be played out with those javelins, enlaves and so on, this event should be repeated, the scenario should be repeated from afghanistan, that is, the fault or syria,

the destruction of cities and so on, extraordinary victims, i thought that it was just then i remember my great indignation, i think, so in politics. you just can't do it without being responsible, but that was the understanding of the situation, today it's a different understanding of what the instructors are up to are important, and you, anton, are absolutely right , it doesn’t matter how many there are, 100 or so, what is important today is that the western countries do not send them here or will not send them to die on the fronts in ukraine, that is obvious, but does this mean covering the skies of ukrainian security so that they are, because they will be the first targets to influence the west? opinion, le pen has already said: you see, macron is preparing us for this, so that we take part in the war and so on, making such a policy, populists and various friends, friends of putin. orban generally stated that it was such that you allow us, irresponsible and so on, we understand that, instead

, what we are leading to, and we record what we said in your anton program, begins in the understanding of the event with these decisions, the whole set of these decisions, which we are talking about. .they said, the final stage of russian aggression against ukraine should begin. duda, tusk, the polish political community, the polish military, they will be ready to put their signatures, their signatures on those documents that would, for example, allow polish instructors to join to this international contingent. bumenni, of course, polish instructors and so on, that is, this one should also be present, because of the attention to history and to friendship and everything. otherwise, today we will say that poland is facing the prospect of, well , such a prospect, we all call it a hybrid attack by russia and belarus against ukraine with the participation of thousands of refugees or migrants from the east, from the middle east, who all have russian or

90 % has a russian visa, that is, people selected by the russians to attack the polish, the polish border with belarus, and maybe also with hezbollah and the taliban, so to speak, on the belarusian policy, on the policy, and maybe on the krulevetsk or kaliningrad section of the border between russia and poland, that is, what i am leading to is that, in fact, poland today should be concentrated in defense of a common front against russia and its ally, the lukashenkos , belarus, at this not so critical point it is called the suvel reshuffle, it did not go anywhere, the russian plans, which have already been announced since... 2009, what will we be through we will attack this isthmus all the way to berlin, no one has de-actualized, they want to implement it in moscow, poland is now focused on that, well, wanting and being able, we understand, these are also two big differences, so the key story here is the readiness to quickly

deploy troops, willingness to react quickly and not allow, but i will not take this danger lightly either, it is very right , myroslav, that you mentioned this about her, yes... because putin went to lukashenko, took with him the new leadership of the ministry of defense, and they two days or a little more, they held some of their meetings and we understand that they were not talking about potatoes, about human potatoes, in their understanding, i’m sorry, i say so, but they treat people like that, it ’s not for them, you and i anton, we’re not people, we ’re you you, who are subject to destruction, as a waste, these are such people, yes, yes, that's how they think, and of course. that poland should be concentrated as lithuania is digging trenches in the same way, estonia, latvia, they are building wow, their native, the germans, think, on lithuania and will deploy their brigade, that is, to meet like putin or lukashenko will want to go against lithuania, because lukashenko was there three months or four ago on this

border, but with lithuania, on the border with lithuania, belarus with lithuania, he said, because we have that suvalsky isthmus 40 km, and this, this is how much, no so much uhu, that is, we understand that they, due to the fact that they do not succeed, there are various efforts, as they think plans in ukraine, do not want, as it seems to them, so. strike at nato and show that nato is powerless, because that is what it is all about, and now returning to those instructors who can to be poland, and the ukrainian authorities, and different experts, and so on, appealed to this. the request is big, to close the sky over western ukraine with your own means, and it can be done. and when will it be justified, not by the fact that they protect the conditional gas transportation system of ukraine, or the suburbs of lviv and the city of lviv itself, or? other cities in western ukraine, but french instructors, british instructors, training grounds, wherever they

are, everything just suits us, it’s true, anton, if the sky is protected from the polish side, and not from the polish side, they will fly russian missiles, because it was the same, then we will feel safer, and those air defense equipment will go closer to the front, ukrainian ones, there will be enough chemistry between the political elites, because of course, i am not mendeleev to measure this level of reagents, we love , we don't like it, we get offended, well, it feels like we're now back on the plain, as if everything is fine, even, somehow it's going, but we understand that there must still be private decisions on the part of the higher political elites of poland and ukraine. well, we came very close, and i can do it so, very much i am pleased to announce that work has begun on the security, so-called security agreement between poland and ukraine, president zelenskyi and prime minister tusk talked for an hour about it, the situation in kharkiv. direction and so on, that is , at the same time there is an understanding of poland, why, by the way, the threat to the isthmus of suva, but on the other

hand, if kharkiv were to fall, or kharkiv were to be surrounded, that’s a million people, well , waves of refugees will again pour into the territory of poland, what about them to do, this will not happen, but the military must calculate everything and the politicians, however, that is, there is something to talk about, and president zelenskyi said, well, we are doing great for everything. that we are actually removing the various sharp corners in our relations and thus returning to a clear trajectory of bilateral relations, but the big request is to close the sky, and i think, i know that appropriate measures are being taken and military developments and legal points are also calculated in cooperation with nato , because, for example, there was such a conference in warsaw about three weeks ago, and the representative of the nato headquarters mons. in belgium, said that it is a great request that poland share its patriots with ukraine, but using

polish patriots to protect the ukrainian sky, it can also work to protect french instructors, allies, british instructors, of course, and belgian instructors and so on. yaroslav, at the beginning of our conversation you mentioned that there is a feeling that different formulas are being sought and discussed, we understand that some of it is public. switzerland will hold a forum dedicated to the peace formula, we understand that there will be an official public reconciliation and there will be a non-public one reconciliation of intentions, capabilities and so on, we still don't know whether the representatives will go, attention, not the united states, they will be there, it doesn't matter whether biden will be there or not, i think that american diplomacy has worked very well in all these moments, i.e. american negotiators. the question of the people's republic of china, who will leave it, yes, because china recently together with brazil

jointly produced an adjusted communique, compared to the so-called chinese plan, which was about everything and nothing, yes, that is, that china is for everything beautiful, sovereign in the world and for a quick solution to any decisions, although at the same time china is currently preparing its large fleet, the chinese armada, which can, i emphasize, can be used against... aggression against taiwan. well, there is no need to exaggerate the fact that the fleet, when the president every time, every time the president of taiwan takes office, right there in 5-7-7 days, the people's republic of china conducts large military exercises off the coast, well, in that taiwan strait, there is not much there kilometers from the chinese mainland, and speaking of it, if it’s not the guys, you won’t understand who’s here... holodars, who’s here first, so you won’t see much, it’s just such a good old chinese

ritual, that’s right, it’s a ritual, absolutely it’s a ritual, well no downplaying all threats and so on, of course, but this is a ritual, secondly, i believe that whether or not there will be a representative in switzerland, china does not play a big role, of those 10 or 12 points, three will be discussed there, and it should be in the final, final document, nuclear safety. shipping safety and exchange captives, everything, well, this is public, this is the public part, and maybe there will be another part that is not public, or simply all the decisions have already been made, no, there are no decisions there. chancellor shortz said that there will be no decisions to be made about peace in ukraine, switzerland will not be made there, it is about something else, i really liked this initiative, i think that ukrainian diplomacy did a great job of everything that was needed with that , there it is necessary to show that the global south, the so-called global south, does not all stand on the positions of china and

russia, on randramod, for sure, and most of the countries of the global south are interested. to be present at the platform offered by ukraine together with its western allies, and the main event has already taken place there, i hope that it will not change, a representative of india will be present, and india today in all parameters, economic, military and so on, plays a big role on this global chessboard, and it is definitely not in the mood, india is ready to replace china, in particular in what is called human resources. factory or workshop of the world and so on and so on india is ready, but india still needs to work on itself, and in particular, perhaps russian aggression against ukraine will be a litmus test. as a litmus test, not to the end, well, we remember that india, unfortunately, also helps russia, because it buys a huge amount of oil from them, although it says

to pay in rupees, which must be invested on the territory of india, well, such wiles. a little further, i read western commentators and let's say indian ones, i would say that even hindus, the same way their elections still go like this the truth of the prime minister and the parliamentary elections in india, according to the prime minister, then everyone points to it, and it will happen anyway, it is about something else, the decision that india should compete, economic competition , china has already been accepted, western firms are leaving china. are going to india, india is developing its advanced manufacturing and so on, it is present in the behavior market and so on, and according to all demographers' projections, the population of india has now surpassed the population of china, not only in numbers but quality, so we understand that the chinese

population, it is much older than the indian one, so the number of young people, let's not talk about quality so simply. about the demographic, about the age structure, well, because the quality is that, when it comes to the population or something, let's not, the truth is, yes, the chinese population is very old, and they cannot recover, and the indian population is simply progressing in geometric numbers, well , let's go back to the swiss summit, that is , we understand that if only those three blocs will be discussed, well, it concerns, for example, nuclear security, it means that everyone else decides. have already been approved, perhaps they will be, instead in the final document or, as i understand it, because president zelenskyi is talking about it, in the final document, there will be no mention of them, instead, these three aspects will be opposed, as i understand what president zelenskyi says, after this, the final document , work will continue on their implementation,

that is, on freedom of navigation, well, the armed forces of ukraine almost drove away the russian... the black sea fleet sank, let's say, a significant part, and even then they are afraid get out now there they are sinking further and so on successfully yes, that is, freedom of navigation, you are for that, you are for that russia signs, does china guarantee that it will be implemented, do you not guarantee, guarantee that there will be no use of nuclear weapons, and now think , putin and his comrades must sign that he will never use nuclear weapons, well, he signed the budapest memorandum. at one time, and not like this, and the nuclear doctrine of the russian federation, where they prescribed very specific, but now the idea is different, that he this paper comrade will push everything today, and he will no longer joke here and say that it is not written that way, and this document, he does not understand what is written there, you interpreted it badly, with comrade xi, russia will not joke like that, that's for sure and it has changed, how much

it has changed, well, if he can’t, very much, then this is not a situation where... putin is greedy with those petrodollars and so on and thinking that europe is weak, america is weak and so on, we can challenge, because we have china behind us. you have to sign it to china, him hieroglyphs, and not in plain english , that is, these are different games, these are eastern games. well, yes, we understand the eastern games, yes, what they mean, for example, to putin, but this means that if the swiss summit does not take place. dedicated to the end of the peace formula, well then no, it will be dedicated, instead we are talking about the final document and what will happen next, and how do you think further negotiations would take place, in what format, or could it all be somehow there quietly, well, it's all about diplomacy, of course this is that it is developing quietly to the public , a certain number of states will be formed that support these three points, according to

the ukrainian formula, and then some other meetings will take place in some other venues and agreements will be made, and what does this mean before the american elections or after? to the american elections after, it does not play a role at that moment, because america's position will be voiced regarding ukraine in... the so-called security agreement, the significance of the vote on providing aid to ukraine, bipartisanship in the house of representatives, what happened on 21 april i think, and what mike jones did, to let it go to a vote and push it through, along with the other three shirts, there's the chairman, the heads of the intelligence, defense, and some other committee, there are these famous three shirts, means that opened the way to the signing of a security agreement with ukraine for america for 10 years, where america will sign its obligations, which must be observed not only today, not only today's american president, but also his successor,

the next american president, and for another 10 years. that is, we enter a completely different one the situation this is a completely new situation, because the americans will no longer say this: "no, you were wrong, guys, it was not guarantees, it was a denial. but the question of what this agreement will be filled with, we understand that from one." i don't know, the comma can depend on a lot, not to mention specific quantitative indicators, no, there will be quantitative indicators, plus this is what america is committed to, you know, this, we all say that this is not an agreement about security agreements, these are not security agreements, well, in the case of a security agreement with ukraine, one must always answer one thing question: what will happen, how will it be, as an aggressor against ukraine threatens to use nuclear weapons, and when this clause is not there, these are... security agreements, these are not security agreements, this is about what, this is about supporting ukraine, and that's what we will call it, that it is about supporting ukraine, political, military and economic, and there are very

clear indicators that in the agreement with germany, france, great britain, great britain was the first, yes, they committed themselves, norway committed itself, based on its legislation, the same will be in america, this document cannot be underestimated, just as you cannot. do not underestimate the nato summit in washington, which will be held in the middle, in the middle of july, where, as we already know, there will be no invitation to ukraine to join nato, unfortunately, but there will be something else, a confirmation that ukraine will be a member, well, we know that it was confirmed to us many times, already from the bucharest nato summit in 2008, but there will already be a road map, let's put it this way, that it is a road map to membership. certain terms are also defined, i.e it will already happen in the same jerk, that is, i am leading to this, that the worst time for ukraine

has passed, it was from october of last year to the end of april this year, and the time is approaching in that moment of this stage, which was and will be, god willing will end with the final stage of the war, because that's how everything is designed, and the end of this war is already on the horizon, that's all... such a world structure has been built, plus security plus, most importantly, military aid, armaments and economic aid. nobody will let ukraine fall. well, god forbid, thank you myroslav for this extremely important conversation on the air of the tv channel. and i want to remind our tv viewers that myroslav cheh, a historian, publicist, deputy of the polish diet of the second and third term, was working for you now. thank you. well, it's time for our program. stay with the espresso tv channel, my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of the day. take care of yourself and your loved ones, see you on the air. two hours to learn

about the war and how the world lives. a project for smart and caring people. espresso in the evening. we are looking for two sisters, liana and nelya kopalenko from kharkiv region. liana turned 14 in march, and neli is now 16. in these photos, the girls are clearly younger, but i really hope that this will not hinder their search. information about the disappearance of the sisters came back in june 2022 from the border town of vovchansk, when it was occupied by the russians. almost two years have passed since then, but during this time there was no news about the kapalenko sisters. it is possible that lutaliana was not exported back then to

the territory not under the control of ukraine, or even. to russia, therefore it is very important to know even the smallest details of their disappearance. if suddenly someone has seen the girls or knows at least some information about them, immediately call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 1163. calls from all ukrainian mobile operators are free. if it is suddenly not possible to call, write to the chatbot, the child tracing service in telegram. i also want to tell you about... one-year-old sofiyka storzhuk, who also disappeared in the kharkiv region. the child was last seen in the city of kupyansk, which until september 2022 was under occupation information about the disappearance of the girl appeared when the soldiers of the ukrainian armed forces liberated kharkiv oblast, but it is not known where sofiyka might be now. it is possible that the child is also in territories not controlled by ukraine. i hope that with your help

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