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that we need to collect 4 million for atvs, this is the 92nd separate mechanized brigade, cold yar, hot directions, in fact, this is chasiv yar, this is where it is now very, very difficult for medical evacuation, for transporting ammunition and also to move along the front line, cold yard 93 a separate mechanized brigade asks to join, because this is the one. what do they need now and what do they expect from you and us? in the meantime, we will include a doctor of history, political analyst and deputy director of the juliusz miryszewski dialogue center in the conversation. on june 4, and then again on june 6, polish farmers. will not go to collect

strawberries and other crops, no, they will go to ragoruska again and block the border, at the same time completely for departure from ukraine, 12 tyres will be allowed into ukraine in 12 hours, i.e. one per hour, that was the threat, mr. lukash adamskyi joins our conversation, mrs. lukash, we welcome you, good day, and what is this the farmers don't like it again, but they agreed, all the papers were signed. all quotas are prescribed, transit is also, that is, there are no threats to the polish farmer, and suddenly the blockade is renewed, what is wrong again? probably, some part of the polish farmers believe that an agreement has been reached useless, or protesting against something else, well, they also understood that the blockade, blockades of transport routes in general, is

to block one of the border crossings, the decision that it is necessary to return again, but this time it is a short two-day blockade and we hope. .. that it will not have a continuation, we also want to ask you about other borders, we are talking about the border with belarus, we remember that poland previously declared that more fortifications would be built there, this territory would be protected more, and actually now from today day, we need to temporarily close the border zone, is it possible to do it, or the local people who own land there, maybe some farms there agree to it, how does it all look, mrs. vukash?

crossed the border into belarus, this is just a good, good move, but the situation on the polish-belarusian border really now poses a great threat to poland, we saw, we saw how migrants attacked,

tried to throw stones at polish border guards and not only that, but in this case, it is somehow very massive and very in coordination. i think that in poland they know just as well that such a large group of migrants could not come to the border peacefully through the territories controlled by the fsb and the kgb of belarus, so they control it, they all understand that this is an element of hybrid aggression against poland, and that's why the government, as i said, three years ago the politicians had, its politicians then in the opposition had a slightly different view, now it resolutely continues the policy that the previous government started, and not only...

there are some so powerful that they cannot be one way or another to bypass or destroy, or is readiness to open fire according to protection? you know, there are thoughts about

using, for example, the kind of weapons that are used against, say, football fans in stadiums, or against people who make some kind of disturbance in a place.

discourages, you can also think about sanctions against airlines that bring migrants to minsk or moscow, and then transfer them here, but but, that is, there are quite a lot of other tools than just shooting directly at people, ugh, and this is only the intention are

there any real steps yet, maybe discussion, how it should look like, i am talking about the idea of ​​ukrainian conscripts... to be taught on the territory of poland, if people live in poland, men, maybe women conscripts, so that they do not have to return to ukraine, and to ukraine , polish instructors should come to them, so that such training could be organized on the territory of poland, actually radoslav sikorsky voiced such an idea, this is just an idea, is it possible to talk about it in more detail, you know, i am talking about this idea, which , which the minister recently voiced it, i already heard it several months ago, so if minister sikorskyi voiced it, as far as i'm concerned, there is a high probability that this is exactly what will happen, that exactly...

training will take place in poland, and whether it will be mobilized from ukraine or ukrainians , who

live abroad, but i can’t answer this question, the idea is that the f-16s rise up and burn jet fuel in the air during all these attacks on western ukraine with cruise missiles and other missiles, and they could in principle shoot down without being in ukrainian airspace spacious and cover the territory. dozbrucha and even further, this is what military experts tell us, that it is politically difficult to do at least an air shield on the part of the polish air force, you know, this is a kind of risk management, i think that from the point of view of polish politicians, the most important thing is for nato to be united, so that...

and they will say, poland itself got involved, entered into a war with russia, then that, then we don't have it,

how can it enter into a war with russia, if it did not leave the airspace of poland? well, what if, for example, russia responds will start shooting down these planes on the territory of poland, or will start destroying some other infrastructure, so what, well, then this is an act of aggression, everything is still working there, as they say, according to nato protocols and the fifth article.

will threaten the transfer of hostilities to the territory of poland itself, but it has already been transferred, what is the difference, what are you fighting with, a tank, a projectile, or an afghan, i mean, that sea, those constant provocations, these are actually elements of a hybrid war and acts of aggression , blocked the north of poland with radio-electronic means, where even flying is dangerous any aviation, because the gps goes astray, these are all acts of aggression simply by different means, i agree, but remember that there is another perspective of ukraine, in which you are, and

at the moment and even i, because as i say it words from kyiv, and another perspective of the country, which is formally in a state of war. will receive less help, and from the side of the allies, and somehow increase the risk that the war will reach poland faster than now, now we have about two or three years, if ukraine does not win, to arm our army, our army, to prepare on this one

war, and no one wants to shorten this term, of course, mr. lukash, thank you for your comment, lukash adamskyi, doctor of history, aviation... analyst and deputy director of the juliusz myrushevsky dialogue center, was in touch with us, now with we are already in contact with dmytro tuzhanskyi, director of the institute of central european strategy and an expert on ukrainian-hungarian relations. mr. dmitry, we congratulate you. good day. and actually, this is how the hungarians react to the idea of ​​belgium about depriving hungary of the right to vote in the european union, and they want to do it very , very quickly even before hungary starts its presidency, in a word , they finally got it, well, look, hungary is ready, if we are talking about ordinary citizens, then i am not sure if they have heard this news yet everyone has read it, it is quite fresh, but if we are talking about the elites, if we are talking about viktor orbán's team, then they have been ready for a long time, that is, you understand, this procedure is against them, it has been going on since 18 years, if i am not

mistaken, but in general, the whole stay at under the rule of viktor orban. continuous since 2010 - these are constant debates, courts with the european union. peter sirto has already reacted like this, uncompromisingly, aggressively, well, as usual. that is, orbán is ready, because orbán is convinced that these are only seniors and that it will not come to that, although, i will tell you, everything here depends on hungary and its behavior, and here is the summit in december 20.23, when on the agenda was the question of opening or not opening negotiations with ukraine on membership, and hungary's position was appropriate, namely threats, but no longer on the side, you know, yes, the minister of foreign affairs of belgium, i am without any there, you know, this one, but then, i understand that the key leaders of the european union, that is, scholz, macron, charles michel, ms. ursula, they, well, i

think , scholz must have taken on the role of that bad cop then, they said. what viktor, you either do this or if you continue your behavior, we do this, this, this, and very quickly, but they continued, look where, wherever we can, as orbán said, we will put sticks in the wheels and block, they block, and anything, at least a package of sanctions, at least anything else, we understand that an election campaign is also imposed, orbanit some, i don't know, his supporters at a mass demonstration, a peace march, well, siyarto makes such statements, this is not our war. we are not protected by ukraine, in one word, according to siyartu, it would be logical to declare him a person of nongrata? oh, no, no, no, no, look, this is a provocation, you shouldn't act like that, there are really a lot of things superimposed on june, the elections to the european parliament, the peace summit, the g7, the negotiating framework, change, that's it

president of the european union from july 1, it will actually be hungary, we are entering a period of such potential transit and conflict in the european union, because a new european commission must be formed and whether ms. ursula will remain in the position of president of the european commission, viktor orban is clearly betting on that, well, if that doesn't happen, he's looking for allies, strangely enough, charles michel can be one of those allies because they have personal nuances with the pano, so we're entering, you know, this very difficult period of uncertainty. with intensive events, during june, the beginning of july, then vacations will begin in europe, they live according to a different schedule, but look, this is massive support for orban, i don’t think that... public servants were brought in with arson, it is still a democratic nato hungary, that is, it is buda, and it is buda pesth, that is, the collective fidesz is like this in the minds of these

voters who want orbán for the prime minister, forever and ever with closed parliaments, well, these are the moods there, and in this case, you you say, a perfect storm is brewing, action must be taken be careful, but these statements already border absolutely and and... not for the first time border on what is far from diplomacy, but aggressive politics, just like that, and therefore we should not contribute to these provocations, we should watch the actions and see how hungary will be represented at the peace summit, this is one of the key tests, it will be, they said that if russia is not there, then maybe we will not go, well, it seems to me that they are more focused on china, on the chinese position, this is what is happening right now, but they focus on the chinese position, then... that there will be no china, here is china, how does it play with these things, but again, look, hungary is on a tightrope, it is like a member country of the eu and nato and part of the west, and they are part of the west, well, if they

don't go, then that, well, i'm not sure , that viktor orbán would dare to take such a step, but it is viktor orbán, once again, about the fact that, look, we don't need to provoke hungary, because we have a peace summit, we have a negotiation framework after that, that's it. framework in the conditions when the elections to the european parliament , we will see what the results will be the position will be the same, for example macron, because france is preparing, well, there is almost twice as much le pen, the le pen party is winning, it will not so much shake, relatively speaking, his influence in the european union, but it will be difficult in terms of reputation, the same will be with mrs. ursula, and she is again a question, as a candidate from a key party from the epp at the... european level, so you understand, look, there will be a difficult moment, and we need to act very sensibly, not to act on provocations, hungary really blocks a lot, and for us now, for example, this one is critical

peace facility fund, i.e. money for ukrainian armaments, and there is already, it seems, under 9 billion hungary is blocking, and it is really kind of a complicated thing, but for example, the fact that hungary blocked our peace plan at the council of europe, well, that is what it is, that is, hungary , she must be blocking something, she is searching. where it can block, and here, unfortunately, we have to, if we were to prioritize, the priority now is money for armaments, pisfacility, 9 billion, there or six, depending on what package they are here, if they approve, and hello for hungary, what is her motivation for saying that some hungarian companies are being discriminated against in ukraine, well, it is there, if they refer to the fact that otp was once included in this register of sponsors of russia, which has already disappeared, that is, it is necessary. they are clearly trading for their european money. the second priority for us is the negotiation framework. it is important for us that hungary does not block these two critical issues. the logic is understood, we

just don't have enough time, but i really want to lend a shoulder, at least to peter madier, to support him as much as possible, morally. yes, we have to say goodbye, mr. dmytro, dmytro tuzhansky, director of the institute of central european strategy, was with us in our time as well. we also say goodbye on this, have a peaceful, safe day, take care! attention, total sale, garden trimmers kors unpack tv with a discount of only 799 uah, only 799 for a reliable tool, high power, ease of use, very profitable. minimum effort, maximum result. hurry to order while the video is being broadcast. trimmers are light and very powerful, mow with gas near fences, along the path line, near the sidewalk, curb, around trees, trim

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