there you prepare for three months in the west, for three months you stand by, next to those who know how to fight on the northern border, and there are no such hot battles as on the eastern border, then you come to the brigades, and i believe that the staffing should have been no more than 50%, i.e. 50% of those who already have combat experience and 50%, maximum, better 1/3 of those who only joined the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine in order to be instructed, taught, and sometimes led to because you know when they say that one of the scariest things is the first fight, so that someone can take over, forgive the ear, and sometimes explain with a kind word what needs to be done and thus save your life. no, no one did it, the system was not built, then it was brought to a situation that is absolutely discrediting today, and i am very ashamed of what is happening. discredits

the military, because let's remember the 22nd year, when a person was seen on the street, and soldiers and officers talk about it, children ran, toys were given, candy was given, flowers were carried, and a person in a uniform caused exclusively respect, nothing else, and today, when the guys say, we come here and there, or on a business trip, or sometimes on some small vacation, we don't go in uniform, because people see us, switch to another one. side of the road, this is a shame, what has already been proven, a shame, but today you can restore trust in the authorities, in the mobilization process , only through recruiting, but they will not be able to do it in two months, it will already be a long process, because if you ruined the relationship, ruined the trust, you won't get it back quickly, and trust in the authorities, including stories that someone will redeem himself, someone has already left

abroad, someone sees what is happening to those who are mobilized and got to the front, there were also such examples when a person was mobilized today, she will be in a week already at the front and died there, there are also such examples, i understand that this is also well used by the enemies and the russian police, but we ourselves give these specific examples, we, i mean, as a state, we as a management system, authorities, yes, which should be responsible for this, and we are what we have, that is why this draft law is bad from all sides, because it does not solve any of the issues raised, it does not allow demobilization, even it does not stimulate and demotivates not only those who fight, but also those who came to lava of the armed forces of ukraine, because they say how long i will go there, for a year, for a month, for 10 years, how long are those who fight at the front, i always quote one guy, he said, we came as a volunteer, we

became slaves, i do not know when i will return home, after passing this law, the boys used to joke, we during our they joked about the business trip to the front, one of the guys said, in order to get home, i need my leg to be torn off above the knee, i said, well, what are you saying, well, these are terrible words, and they are jokes, he says, what about other options there is no, and it is true, there is no rotation, they did not set up mechanisms to recruit people who would come. in theory, it is possible to protect the homeland and recruit people even with the methods that the shopping center uses today. but what will it do? the soldiers at the front say: you will not recruit people for the armed forces of ukraine exclusively with a whip, they will not fight. and, seeing all that is happening there today with the shopping center, with the mobilization process, it also negatively affects the entire state. can

something be fixed, well, if very briefly, quickly no, this, this is a planned work that must be taken, written in the plans, put in charge and start working, this is the return of people's trust that he will serve where he will useful, not just because he was taken, he could have been a cool medic, but he was sent to the stormtroopers, and he died in the first battle, or he will be a drone pilot, so-called, or he will be responsible... for rap, or he will be, excuse me, a good cook, or he will work in the headquarters and perform other important tasks, but everyone must be responsible for his own, as in any direction, a good person cannot to become a good doctor, well , it doesn't happen like that, you can be very decent, but if you don't know how to count, then you will be a bad accountant and yes, and in many other ways a good actor could become the president of ukraine. so why

can't there be something like this? because very often experiments are completed. not like we would like thank you, mr. dmytro, i would like to remind our viewers that we work live, including on our platforms, on youtube and facebook, and conduct polls there, we ask you the following: is ukraine threatened by authoritarianism? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have your own opinion that does not fit into an unambiguous answer, either yes or no, please write in the comments under this video, like this video so that on in youtube trends, well, if you watch us on tv, you can see the numbers on the screens now telephone numbers on which you can vote if you think that ukraine is threatened by authoritarianism, 0800-211-381, no, 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up

the results of this vote, therefore, as i said earlier, mr. dmytro, in june, on june 15-16, we will have a global summit. we can already see how china is trying to beat zelenskyi's team, which is leading its peace plan, although only three of the 10 points remain, but after china's refusal to participate at the global summit, the country's foreign minister wang said that the chinese peace plan has allegedly been supported by 26 countries in the world, let's hear what wang-yi said? more balanced, positive and constructive voices are needed on the crisis in ukraine, to this end, china and brazil jointly prepared a six-point plan for the political settlement of the crisis in ukraine, emphasizing the need to adhere to three principles: not expanding the battlefield,

preventing the escalation of hostilities, not incitement of the situation by any party. only in a week, about 45 countries are positive. have reacted to this plan, of which 26 have confirmed their intention to join or are seriously considering such a possibility, russia and ukraine have also confirmed most of the content of the six points. so, mr. dmytro, zelensky's plan against the plan of sidzenpinny, well , relatively speaking, or sidzenpinny and putin, but in this story with the global peace summit, what is it for? will mean the success of this summit, well, what will it be determined by, well, first of all, it does not quite fit into the meaning of the summit, because only the leaders should be present at the summit states, well, objectively, it can be a conference, it can be a forum, it can be another

name, but it is the leaders themselves, if there are not leaders of all countries, and i hear that there will be deputy ministers. ministers, someone will send an ambassador, it seriously undermines the level of this event, secondly, the issues that are brought there are important, but they will not be able to lead to ukrainian victory, in the short term, of course, the issue of food security is important , the opening of sea routes is a serious help to the economy of ukraine, if... this will happen, secondly, nuclear security, well, by and large today , the magathe oversees this, and they will continue to deal with it, and not only them, because even there our partners, they still have some kind of communication with russia , negotiation processes, and i do not think that such a red line can be crossed,

they can cross it, it is unlikely that they will go for it, and the third issue is the exchange of hostages, the return of children. it is a very important aspect, there are no questions, whether russia will go for it, i don't know, to be honest, i don't see such things yet prerequisites, god forbid that i be wrong, if we are talking about the exchange of our prisoners, there for those who are with us russians, i do not think that they will go in the regime of all for all, honestly, i would like it believe, but i don't see such... signals from the enemy, and those statements that come from china, brazil, other countries, including saudi arabia already said that they will not be present, this is not very good for us, for this event, and it will be beaten because

the distribution of these two will take place division of the international society into two camps, this into two and it will be negative first of all for us. today i have already seen the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine on the statement of the minister of foreign affairs of china. but i don't think that globally it will in any way affect the position of china, they noted it, they will not be present at this conference, which is bad, because no matter how we perceive such statements, but the presence of china is a serious b help and serious support of ukraine in the international arena, unfortunately, this is not available, let's see who will represent the united states, unfortunately, so am i from the united states of america. it will be there, yes, well , it’s today, let’s wait, but the fact that biden will not be there is also not

very good for us, i understand that now they will sell the story about the signing of the document of security agreements, but it is also safe the agreement, in the security agreement, there is a difference, as they say, we already had a bedp memorandum, which, as we can see, is not working today, all those agreements that are signed, yes there... positive things, and aid, and finances, and loans, and many other things, and weapons, but they are not such that it would be possible to replace the fifth article of nato there, for example, because there really is a security guarantee that if one nato state is attacked, then all the others have to stand up for her and not only to worry a lot about this, but to send your troops here along with your weapons, etc. , i have not yet seen such a thing from the so-called security treaties, by the way,

you mentioned nato, and just a few days ago, the president of the united states of america, joe in an interview with the magazine, biden said that ukraine's membership in nato is not necessary to guarantee peace, quoting what the leader of the united states of america said: peace looks like a guarantee that russia will never, never, never occupy ukraine, this is what peace looks like , and it does not mean nato, that they are part of nato. this means that we have the same relationship with them as we do with other countries to which we supply arms so that they can defend themselves in the future. but it is not so. if you noticed, i was the one who said i wasn't is ready to support the nativization of ukraine. well, what biden is saying is that this security deal that's going to be made is the maximum you can get. yes, we will help you with weapons, so we will help you not to lose this war. but the issue of ukraine joining the north atlantic alliance and the invitation to

the alliance in july at the anniversary summit, it does not stand, and biden's position is probably decisive in this situation, well, the position of the united states of america, and the answer that we will receive from washington summit, perhaps obvious or not? well, the fact that we will not get nato from this summit, these were already direct statements, by and large there is no need to hope here. but biden's statement is not only about this summit, it is, it is true, no no, it is not good for us, because to supply, he draws an analogy with the supply of weapons to countries, there, which are still supported by the united states of america, but none of these countries have there is no such great enemy as russia, and such a great war, well, it is a great war, because there is a great enemy that does not count their own people who do not count their own, their economy, who abandon everything, throw them into the furnace of war, that is why none of the states

supported by the united states of america has such an adversary as russia, that's right, that's the first thing, secondly, there is one here too the difference is because the nato countries closed the sky over some other countries, for example, over israel, over ukraine. no, it's also a, well, a diversified, let's call it that, approach, i really don't like it, but it, well, we have what we have, so the story is that we'll just help you with weapons, support, we very grateful to our international partners, this is very important, but as of today, i am not sure that this will lead to what president biden said, that ukraine will not be occupied, by russia. today, we have a large part of our territories occupied, if until on 02/22/2020 it was 7% of ukraine, and

as of today it is more than 20%. and this, and today the enemy continues, despite the fact that our army destroys dozens and hundreds of his soldiers every day, he continues to press, press, press and tries to destroy ukraine, this too must be understood, what a challenge it is. which are in front of us today, and if we approach simply in the format of a war of two armies without technology, then they... more, this must also be understood, and it will be impossible for us to defeat them simply by numbers, we have to fight with quality, and today quality, we have problems and the situation in the kharkiv direction, therefore , direct confirmation regarding fortifications, drones, and many other things that, unfortunately, our army lacks today,

well, obviously membership in nato is not only readiness or the condition of our armed forces of ukraine and provision. to develop civil society, to observe democracy, freedom of speech, that is, well, there are a lot of principles, and the washington post wrote last week that there are contradictions between official kyiv and official washington regarding what is happening now in ukraine, do you see these contradictions, do they talk to you... diplomats, foreign diplomats at meetings, listen, well, we understand that you are at war, that you need help, but we have certain problems, you have certain problems, and you are with them necessarily you have to fight, but it’s not a secret, we are there only in relation to my communication, you saw the articles of international publications after blinkin’s arrival, when he writes directly

about corruption, before that the state debt office talks about freedom of speech, about a single marathon, these are the problems . who see abroad, frankly , many of the representatives of other countries who help us today say that look, every day it is more and more difficult for us to explain to our society, to the society in our countries, why we help the state, in which has corruption, that is, we take the money of our taxpayers, transfer it to you in ukraine, and then we see scandals everywhere. with the fact that there are eggs, shells, jackets and many other things, how can we continue to explain to our citizens that we should continue at the same level, or even help ukraine more, this is the first story, the second story is the principles of democracy, the rule of law, freedom of speech and many other things that are fundamental to nato countries, and your

poll today shows how much they are basic for ukrainian society, how it relates to what is happening today, that is why there is such a problem, first of all, i believe that everything is equal, if we are talking about nato, and not about the european union, it is a security component, but the movement towards the european union, in this respect, may also be in jeopardy, because every day we can hear more and more signals, negative signals, well... the administration of the united states of america intends to fully use the powers of the repo act, to ensure the effective withdrawal of the frozen assets of the russian federation in favor of ukraine, but must coordinate this process with european partners, said matthew miller, the spokesman for the state department of the united states of america. let's listen to miller.

i think you know that the vast majority of frozen russian assets are stored not in the united states, but in europe. for this process to be as effective as possible, it is important that we act in concert with our allies, and we consult with our european allies, on the best way to do it. we seek to ensure that the frozen assets of the russian federation remain immobilized and are used for the benefit of the ukrainian people. matthew miller says the right words, but every time, i think, they are so long. it is harnessed that it is not known whether they will go as fast as they harness, because there is a saying that they harness for a long time, but they go fast, well, for some reason this speed, it is so moderate, is this also a problem of the ukrainian parties that they, well, we, not them,

we, that ukraine somehow, well, causes certain the question of our... american partners, is it about the fear of russia, or is it about the europeans' fear of russia, i.e. what is the reason that some decisions that are absolutely obvious when the russian federation destroys ukrainian cities, and destroys cities and destroys the entire infrastructure, it is absolutely obvious that if the aggressor does it, then he has to pay for it, including with frozen funds, and they are thinking for the third year that to do it or not to do it is in accordance with the international standards. you or not, if putin is simple he didn't care about international norms, why doesn't the world adequately treat him in the same way. look, this is a complex question, there are many answers, including from. tell me that they are worried about their assets, well, let's call a spade a spade, this is not only about international law, because you absolutely rightly pointed out, putin spat

on international law and on the principles of the rule of law, and on the principles of the inviolability of human life, we we see what happened in arpina, buch, gastom , izyum and many other cities where the rashists destroyed a huge number of our people, and i can't even compensate for this with money. maybe, but if we are talking about the allocation of these funds, let our partners forgive me, but it sometimes looks like throwing a hot potato, what are we, we are in favor, but let's go there, yes, someone else will think, and then, here and there we have such a problem, every time an additional argument appears, and why it should not be done now, and let's do it the day after tomorrow, but if we are talking with you about... after all, this is not what we are doing with you, but it does the representatives of the authorities, because they are today endowed with such powers, the corruption component is probably one

of the key ones today, i.e. those line breakers who do not want ukraine to receive these funds as part of the confiscation of russian property and frozen assets, they use the same the argument that i just said that... there is a high level of corruption, if we give them these funds, they will not recover, they will not defend themselves there, they will rob them, and unfortunately it works, plus they bring those or other facts, and this, and this brings the result that you and i see today, and that we are talking about today, so the story about corruption, it is no longer just a story about profiteering, a story about stolen money, but this is a story about people's lives, and this is a story about'. state and statehood. you know that in 2016, when the anti-corruption legislation was adopted in ukraine, all the authors of the laws that were

adopted, there were four or five laws, regarding the creation of this anti-corruption infrastructure, and there were conclusions of our european colleagues who spoke about the fact that this is one of the best anti-corruption legislations in europe in general, at least, which has been adopted in... and all these infrastructural institutions were supposed to work and fight corruption, what went wrong? look, i think something went wrong, but the question is different, nabu, sap, vax, nazk, they can't fight corruption in the state, it's not physically impossible, yes, they can catch this or that corrupt person, po. .. it is possible to take away the funds he received illegally, but not to fight corruption in the state they can, it is by and large not unrealistic,

and it is not their task, it is possible to fight corruption in the state only according to the principle from top to bottom, from top to bottom, because when a decision is made from above, not a declarative one, but a real decision that we are not making money. you know, the favorite phrase: officials: we don’t earn from the state budget, well, this is zelensky’s favorite phrase and thesis in general that we will imprison everyone and we will imprison everyone, and there will be justice, well, it is necessary that there really be justice, and not only in slogans, i'm not talking about specific ones now characters, i am in general, and if it will not be a slogan, and if it will be a principle, then believe me, it is not a quick process, i am also conscious here, i will not lie to people, telling them that it is there... only the decision was made , tomorrow it ran, no, it is a difficult process, but when you make such a decision for yourself, bring it to those who work next to

you, are your subordinates, and demand that it be carried out, then it will lead to the expected, expected by ukraine result, because when you, you know, i always give the example of a director of a company, if you sit... in the position of director, you have six orders there, which you said you do not steal, i understand, you may not see or find what the cleaning lady did there, did she take it home, maybe i don't want to offend anyone, one roll of toilet paper, but if you have a vice that you told not to take, not to steal, and they continue to do it, well, you can not see it once, twice, the third time there will be two options for solving the problem , or you don't... see and you don't have a place here, or you are both in the topic and in fate, otherwise it does not work, and then such a system must be introduced from top to bottom, and those who

are in it, who... do not want to live according to the principles of this system, must leave it either voluntarily, or with the help of that anti-corruption structure of the anti-corruption system, yes, about which you just mentioned, does zelenskyi have a chance to become a person who, well, let's say this, understanding that she will obviously run for a second presidential term, and this is obvious to me in my opinion, because it is a matter of survival, well, at least not these five or six. lived that this is anti-corruption the story will be continued, or let's say, activated, when they will show everyone, and live, how they come to get someone, well, in one country it happened, do you remember in georgia, how they fought with corrupt people there and right in the air was shown on the air, well, in the only telethon, let's say that this could be one of the features of

the next election campaign. chechka, whether we should go for videos or a real fight against corruption, but when you and i get an answer, for whom it is fundamental, and for whom it is just because it is beautiful, then we will understand, bye what will this lead to, i haven't seen the president for a long time, i don't know what the mood is like there, i can talk about myself there about my smart policy team, everyone should be responsible for themselves if we return to 2019. year and this is the phrase, i i really remember this phrase at the nsc olympic zelensky about what he said that he was asking when asking petro poroshenko, why are all your friends still with their hands hinting that under poroshenko there friends stole, would it be possible to ask a similar question now, or could the president fight, could volodymyr zelenskyi model of 2019, ask now the president

of zelensky model of 2024. we have to wait for the next election campaign, and there will always be a person who will ask such a question, and to the current president, well, you are ready to be such a person, well, there will be elections, let's see, let's live until the elections and when they will be, and for this the state needs to win and the elections are not held the way someone likes them, but according to the principle of freedom, democracy, the rule of law and the opportunity to speak the truth on the air, thank you. let's hope that we will continue to be true talk on the air of the tv channel. thank you, mr. dmytro, for the meaningful conversation. it was dmytro razumkov, a ukrainian politician, former head of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. during this broadcast, we conducted a survey, friends, today we asked you whether authoritarianism threatens ukraine. let's look at the results of the television survey, 92% say yes, 8% - no. we will ask the same question

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elections to the european parliament, who will be elected by europeans at a time when the war has been going on for the third year on the continent, the kremlin threatens the security of all of europe, and far-right groups are becoming more and more popular, the following are about it. 13 minutes of bbc broadcast, in the studio at jafer umerov works in london. will the support of ukraine in europe change after the elections to the european parliament, which start tomorrow, june 6, about that a little later, first a few words about the elections themselves. they will run for four days until sunday june 9, but who?