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let's talk about mobilization, because probably mobilization can affect every family, and we consider it necessary to explain this process again and again, my name is vlasta lazur. the cabinet of ministers plans to postpone the registration of conscripts, those who are under 18, and conscripts are those who are between 18 and 25, who are currently abroad. deputy prime minister iryna vereshchuk announced this today. where did this discussion even come from? defense ministry official dmytro lazutkin previously stated that 17-year-old boys should come to of ukraine in order to enter the military register. for example, it is impossible to register for military service remotely through the reserve application, so you have to physically appear at the tsc on the territory of ukraine. legally, the ministry of defense is right, said vereshchuk, because they say so, the rules are written, but in the government, the vice-prime minister convinces, they supposedly understand that forcing students of non-mobilization age to go to ukraine to become a... is not an option.
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it will only increase the burden on the vlk and will not help mobilization in any way - says veryshchuk. on the one hand, it is difficult to deny, but on the other hand, was it not obvious before, we will talk about it today, as well as about other challenges for citizens who are both in ukraine and abroad, and who are subject to mobilization and can be mobilized. to what extent the mobilization process is clear and transparent to you, you can write in the comments, but we also conducted a survey of people on the street, listen. the law on mobilization, it has been in force for more than two weeks, it is in effect, tell me, has it affected your life in any way? not yet, i haven't updated the data yet, the deadline hasn't passed yet, so i'm like, i'll update everything in the last few terms, it didn't affect mine, because i work in the civil service, i'm booked for the time being, so for now it's fine in principle, no, not at all, you didn't update the data, you updated it.
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i can show you if you really want, well , it did not affect my family, but the law on mobilization had to be adopted in the 22nd year and we had to think about rotation, mobilization, about change, it affected my life even when the full-scale war began. and now how does it affect a guy, well, it affects everyone differently tistivka is also affected and floats at the front for now, as we can see. the situation did not get better, but thank god it didn't get much worse either. and can you point out any disadvantages of the new law? do the children of deputies cry? well, you can collect a lot of negatives, the key one i have already mentioned, the key one is the format, there is no motivation for people, now ipso is to what extent it penetrates the infosphere, that people are somehow aggressively disposed to war, and you either take it and do it, or you... just you take it, but
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where are you going, and you go swimming in the yew, that's all, there are two, two elections, everyone must fight, even more so, the children must also be a deputy, yes, only when they finish their basic course in foreign schools, we are waiting for them, we are waiting for them, i am mobilizing only after that, how will zelensky and khermak get into the fire, well , that’s fine, let’s make such a large column of... for the sake of it, we’ll go storm the landings, and i already live in kharkiv, and now there are no people in this place at all, due to shelling and other things, after 18 you won't see anyone at all, because people are afraid, they are not understand what it is, those who did not leave before when they were children, for them it is a psychological condition, it worsens and worsens, because no one understands what is happening in general, that is, you have acquaintances who left ukraine. even before they were 18,
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for example, yes, yes, and they are not going to return, they want, they were going to return to the law promulgation, it will be difficult to motivate for such a thing, it is first of all necessary, well, the desire and will of the people, like, to protect your country, look, people go to school, to kindergarten, then to school, after school go to college or university, then why should they... go and give their lives, well, first of all, it would be necessary to conduct a normal information campaign and not earn like this for two years on these refugees, on these fugitives, references and so on, but if a person were to be told that you are leaving for six months, you are now here with a signature stamp saying that you are leaving for six months, after 6 months you will have a rotation. well, to fight for 6 months, of course,
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and not to sit there somewhere, you won back 6 months, you have a rotation for 6 months, and you in 6 months you come again, everything is official, everything is signed on paper. and for it to really work, then i am a person, i am going to fight, i know how long i am going and that i will have one hundred percent rest, now all these guys, heroes who believed, who are still in our ranks, have been plowing since the 22nd year, and the devil knows when it will be, well, i’m on some kind of vacation, but if there was such a regularity of six months to six months, i think that we have enough people, but for some reason there is no such thing as synchronization, in fact, i will influence , because... i saw that shops with 1 june, a store like atb, for example, won't run men without a ticket that they could get from june 1st, so it didn't really affect me because you 're not near my house, and where are you so great at
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atb stores , they print out certain business cards and place them before entering, so that you cannot be there without updating your data. you personally saw this, yes, it is interesting, because i did not notice this, yes, we go together, we must understand that people who are at the front for months, even some for six months to a year, and are not able to return home, are not able to come to the same wedding of their children, well, this is not normal, after that, after the end of the war itself, that is, you have to restore the economy. the whole young generation will simply get injured, die, be crippled, psychologically just as injured, few people look at the future, they need it now, victory, everything, but on the other hand , it is difficult to find other ways out there, on the other hand, if
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the military runs out, well, conscripts a ten-year-old is also not an option, one of our interlocutors in this survey said that it is alleged that men will not be allowed in... without updating the data, so this is not true, in fact earlier there was such information spread on the internet that supposedly they will not be allowed to go to the supermarket without a military ticket, but this information has already been denied by the management of the supermarket chain, so don't bother on fakes, this is not true, but in general, i want to note that, of course , street polls are not sociology, but the kind of answers we get during such polls, after all, slightly expands our understanding and representation of the moods of ukrainians , and in in the comments, you can also write what you personally... have about the mobilization process, how clear and transparent this process is for you, how much it has changed your life, what changes you would suggest if you had the opportunity, and join our broadcast fedir venislavskyi, people's deputy, servant of the people and representative of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, a person who can actually change
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the mobilization process, good evening, i congratulate you, fedir, and i will ask you the same question as the mobilization process, i mean organization, how does it look now? clear, understandable, transparent for everyone, well, because almost three weeks have passed, and this is almost half of the time during which ukrainians have to update their data? well, first of all, if we are talking about the amount of time needed to update your data, then right before my eyes is the dynamics of updating your data by citizens of ukraine, as of june 3, that is, monday, according to the ministry of defense of ukraine updated theirs. military personal data about 1.5 million citizens of ukraine, of which 1,340, 350,000 actually updated through the plus reserve, about 117 thousand - through tsnapy and about 95 thousand, more than
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95 thousand through tsksp, that is, the dynamics of updating personal data, and the main goal, i want to remind you, is those of the legislative changes that we announced... on may 18, it is for the state to clearly understand where among the citizens of ukraine who are required to serve in the military, who can be mobilized, who cannot, who has the right to deferment, who is reserved and so on, and i think the dynamics show that that we have achieved the main goal of this draft law, and today the mobilization processes are entering the normal channels in which we would like to see it, to say that it is happening absolutely clearly. unfortunately, we cannot do without some excesses, but where there is a human factor, there will always be some deviations, there will be emotions, but in general, i think that, thanks to our legislative changes as well, the mobilization process acquires absolutely such civilized, transparent framework, citizens
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understand who among them can be mobilized, who cannot be mobilized, update their data, which gives the right to a postponement or reservation, and therefore i think that in the near future, well, let's say, for a few more months, we will get exactly the picture that we expected. i then, i then, let's continue this topic, you just said that the main goal is to update the data so that... the state could see how many people there are in principle, how many in ukraine, how many abroad, and the state had this information, but here, for example, today your former colleague, a member of parliament, and now a minister, deputy prime minister, iryna veryshchuk, said that there will be changes regarding those men who are abroad, that is, young men from 17 to 25 years old, up to the conscription age, or rather to the mobilization age, which will be some changes that he foresees... they fear that these people will not necessarily come to ukraine and be registered with the tcc. you
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must have heard about it? well, actually, you know, there are certain announcements or certain informational things that are always perceived the same way. to date, citizens of ukraine who are conscripts, who are aged 18 to 25, and who are not, cannot be according to the legislative changes that we have adopted and that have been. update yours wait wait wait a minute they can update their details but they can't register, the law says the requirement is that they have to register, abroad they can't register, the spokesman for the ministry of defense said they have to come to ukraine. actually, i cannot comment on what the speaker says, i am telling you the requirements of the law. if a citizen of ukraine is over 18 years old, he can go to the reserve plus application, using his
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digital signature, create an electronic cabinet and upload the necessary information, he will definitely not be recognized there as fit or unfit for military service, because he will not pass the military medical board, but he will formally fulfill the requirements of the law regarding updating his data, and from june 18 this system will be reserve++. a qr code that will be an authentic digital substitute for a military id, so i don't see any problems here, but the speaker's statement the ministry of defense, about which you say that young men over the age of 18 will be obliged to come, well, this, you know, is a subjective assessment of the minister, which should be of the minister, of the ministry, i'm sorry, of the ministry, which should be supported by some normative - by legal acts, certainly citizens of ukraine up to the conscription age in order to become conscripts. we had to get a registration certificate in the old way, that is, for 17 years, and then get
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a military registration document, which will be generic, wait, wait, let's let's now put the dots on and, dmytro lazutkin, the official spokesman of the ministry of defense said: young men who have turned 17 years old must register for the military, this is a requirement, and it also applies to those who are abroad, to the question of whether these ukrainians can to register for military service remotely, he, or to do it in the reserve plus, he said that it is impossible to do it in the reserve plus, you have to register in the tsk, what does this mean, how not to come to ukraine, and after all , then the vice-prem the minister responded that they will change something, i really don’t understand, they will change something by law, or by some other resolution from the government, well, that’s what i ’m talking about, that these issues are resolved at the sub-legal level, in the law that we passed, there is no provision that young men aged 18 and over, 17 and over must come to be registered, no, he asks. accounting is regulated by secondary regulatory legal acts, i am talking about this, that is, the ministry of defense, the ministry of defense
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did not form or finalize some specific secondary legal act or how timely, this is a resolution there should be a cabinet of ministers, a cabinet of ministers, yes, that is, they did not finalize it, it turns out, well, i emphasize once again that in the law on compulsory military service, in the law on mobilization training and mobilization, these issues are not regulated, citizens of ukraine are recognized as conscripts, which fulfilled 18 years old and up to 65 years old, that is, the spokesmen of the ministry of defense voice their subjective opinion, their personal wishes, their personal vision, the head of each speaker, each ministry, i do not understand what they guided by what i am as a specialist, as a legislator, as a representative of the committee, i can speak about what is provided for by law, what is not provided for, the things about which you say that the citizens of ukraine are of age, not me, not me, the ministry of defense, i mean, yes, what we are discussing with you is that those... should return to ukraine, there is no such provision in the law that we passed, you know,
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you say, i don't know what they are guided by, i i just want to tell you our own experience as journalists, for example, the speaker of the ministry of defense on radio liberty was the last one was around may 20 or 21, more than two weeks ago, and here we are telling people in our audience from air to air what changes are waiting for ukrainians, what this or that resolution means, and we are constantly calling... the ministry of defense , and they say that there is nothing to comment on, that everything is already clear, and maybe in the near future, when they will comment on something, it is there on june 19, because some innovation will appear in the reserve plus. it is possible for you, too, such information, how the ministry of defense works, how they explain to the ukrainians, well, actually, then we hear such answers that they allegedly hand out subpoenas in the atb, whether they are allowed there or not, i think that we will consider this issue at the committee and with the participation of representatives of the ministry of defense, i think that we will adjust the information policy of the ministry of defense was such, such that it will not raise questions, and you
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agree with the fact that it is a failure, informational, informational component? me, i agree that it has some flaws, and if there are fakes that are provoked by some rash statements, then surely it does not perform the functions it should perform, you know, i will probably be in solidarity with my colleagues here, the teksta.orgua publication recently published an article called: confusing words, why the ministry of defense cannot explain what algorithm is used mobilization, well, we are now showing this publication, and the journalists actually turned to the ministry of defense, now... an explanation of the questions that can very often arise for any man there who receives a summons, where to go, whom to contact, what to do, if the summons in the trip handed over what to do if she came there through the osb, and so on, and the journalists formed a list of seven questions there, and for all questions to the ministry of defense from, or there they simply quoted excerpts from laws or bylaws there, but here are a couple they
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did not answer the questions at all, and with your permission it so happened that you, as a deputy, have to control... the government and the relevant ministry, i will forward these questions to you, after updating the data in the tcc, summonses can also be sent by mail, what should a person do if he gets two or three subpoenas, for example, by mail, at work, or from the manager of the condominium, this is the question that the ministry of defense did not answer, maybe you know, well , if a person received a subpoena, regardless of the form in which the subpoena was delivered by law, then he must fulfill the requirements specified in this. here, if the question is obvious to me, well, if she received three summonses, then how, what to do, she definitely cannot receive three summonses at the same time, if a person received, for example, a summons was sent to the place of residence, the person did not receive it there, and then this summons was sent through the relevant mobilization units, enterprises or institutions where this person works, she received it, well, this does not
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mean that the person received three summons at the same time, that is, you can take any of them, well... . it is necessary to fulfill the requirements stipulated in the summons, if the person received the summons there on april 1, but did not appear on it, and then received it there on april 15, but already received it, then he must appear, perhaps it is valid. for some objective reasons, the person did not receive such a summons, so you know here, i don't i can comment when i don't understand the circumstances of how this person received summonses, three summonses, as you say, we need to find out who they are, what dates, how these summonses were issued to a person, because by and large ... . this is one tsksp, where a person is registered, has to perform a mission or a function of issuing subpoenas. another question to which the ministry of defense does not give an answer, what is the algorithm for serving subpoenas to employees of the sbu and the foreign intelligence service? employees of the foreign intelligence service, main the intelligence department of the ministry of defense, the intelligence body of the ministry of the state border service and the security service of ukraine
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are on special records and the issue of notification and necessity. to appear in certain structural subdivisions is regulated precisely by the rules of special accounting. and what is a special account? who, who is on this special due to the fact that these citizens are in the service in the bodies and, let's say, to which there is increased sensitivity, increased interest of the enemy, they are not in the general record, that is, in their there are no talismans, in the system of talismans, they are registered by the security service, the foreign intelligence service, the main intelligence department and, accordingly, the state border intelligence. that is, for the general system of amulets, they are invisible? yes, to the extent that it is, it is now, it is now supposed to be after the enactment of this law, it is synchronized, and this question is literally on monday, again we were looking at what does it mean after enactment, the law came into effect on may 18th, what do you said that
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after the entry into force is now happening synchronization process and the ministry of defense as the main administrator. uh, it's the safeguard system that will have all the information, but it will see that specific individuals, they are on special records. that is, there are certain categories of institutions and employees that are invisible to the state, and they cannot be subpoenaed. this is absolutely wrong, citizens of the country who are on special accounts, they are visible to those who have access to these accounts by virtue of their official duties, because... let's say, give access to the accounting system of the intelligence agencies, well , this will surely be a threat to national security, that is, the employees of the sbu, relatively speaking, only see the leaders... the sbu, well, you will see that the synchronization process is already underway, you will see the relevant units of the ministry of defense. and why
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will he see only now, and not before? there was such legislation, now we have provided that everyone must be on the military register. don't you think this is a little inconsistent with the principles of fair mobilization? it doesn't seem like it at all, because i emphasize once again, this is a matter of national security. how? if? and you want all our scouts to be known to a very unlimited circle of people? well, in principle , the personal data of any person is quite closed and sensitive sensitive information, here it is possible that you have a question about the amulet system or the reserve plus application, or what do you mean ? i mean that a much larger number of people have access to the system of charms than to the system of accounting, special records in the relevant services, therefore, after all, by... returning to the question, how will they receive subpoenas sbu employees? they will receive summonses as they receive, they are, they can be mobilized to units of the security service
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of ukraine, if the security service management office believes that these employees should now be involved in the performance of security service tasks, they will receive a summons and go to service , as well as service in the foreign intelligence service, in the service of the main administration, well, to the entire intelligence community, if their leader is an employee of the security service. of ukraine, if it the manager considers it necessary that this employee should join the army, so he is issued a summons in some automatic individual mode. you want me to tell you now the information that has a restricted access label, i cannot do this due to the fact that i am and this is classified information, of course, so it is possible that the ministry of defense about these measures regarding employees of the special services of the intelligence community, this is information from limited access, well, you know... on the one hand, yes, and on the other hand, as soon as employees of the sbu will be caught illegally monitoring citizens, journalists, or committing other crimes, immediately everyone will know that they
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are going to the army, look, and the secret is disappearing somewhere, look, in this law we are in therefore , the law that we adopted, which entered into force on may 18, provides that the leadership of these special bodies have the right to be transferred to the armed forces, well, let's say, to be transferred to be removed from... their internal accounting and transferred to from the composition to other components the security and defense sector of those employees who are not used, who are not involved in the performance of the functions of the relevant bodies, we provided such and such opportunities, so i think that if you know, some questions arise regarding this or that employee who is not involved in the security sector and intelligence, they can be transferred, they will be more accurately transferred to the general accounting system, mr. venislavskyi, have you updated the data already in tsc? not yet, and why? i don't want to overload the system. i will do it within the time limits set by the law requirements of the law. will you stand in line or
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make a reserve plus? i think, in reserve plus. trust, trust the app? well , look, now, as i said, a qr code will be generated from june 18, i think, just when this system will be fully operational, i will fulfill the requirements of the law and there will be no problems. and here you are at the beginning, you have prepared statistics for... i wanted to clarify the percentage of people who updated their data, there is actually a very small reserve plus from abroad, if you have this data now, but well, it is quite small percentage, so if there are more than a million in total, then there may not be 100 thousand who were abroad, at least in the first days it was like that. statistics, that is, a very, very small percentage. tell me, please, what is the algorithm of actions, if there are tens, tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of men who are abroad
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during these 60 days and will not update their data, and what can prevent them from updating their data, we, by the way, are the issue was discussed yesterday, i ’m not asking about it, i’m asking what algorithm of actions in the state then, algorithm of actions in the state these persons will be identified as wanted, that they have not fulfilled their requirements, for example, there will be... appropriate negative consequences will be applied to these citizens, and how will you declare them wanted? i mean , there will be such numbers in the amulet system that they have not updated their data, for this there will be administrative responsibility, which we also adopted in parallel, so the question will be the administrative responsibility of these persons, all from 17 to 60 years old, yes those who do not fulfill their duty duty from'. up to the age of 60, if they do not fulfill this duty, then they will be held administratively responsible for this, but your colleague, maryana bezugla, who has the honor of working with you in the same committee,
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she... assumed that they were saying , if these people do not comply with the rules and requirements of the law, they can surrender their ukrainian passport, what is your opinion on this? you know, i don't want to comment on any subjective opinions of a person who does not fully understand what the constitution says, a citizen of ukraine cannot be deprived of citizenship, according to passport, it can be his free will if he acquires foreign citizenship, and now the position, you know, the position of the president and... the bills that are in the parliament, after all, is to provide for the possibility of dual citizenship, so the failure to meet the requirements of this of the law, it has the sole consequence of bringing to administrative responsibility, other political negative consequences, including those related to the termination of citizenship, this draft law, this law does not exist and in principle there cannot be such responsibility, it contradicts only the constitution of ukraine, it also contradicts international norms and common sense. i thank you very much, fedir venislavskyi, people's
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deputy, servant of the people and... representative of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, we discussed the law on mobilization, which has been in force for three weeks now, we discussed the challenges it poses both for the state and for its citizens, thank you very much, and for almost a week, how have ukrainians been living under the new light tariffs, on may 31 the cabinet of ministers of ukraine raised electricity prices for the population, actually almost doubled, from 2.64 hryvnias per kilowatt to 4.32 hryvnias per kilowatt now. this tariff will be valid until april 30 , 2025, but what's next, we'll talk about that in a minute. in the meantime, the government said that the increase in tariffs was necessary in order to maintain and restore the power system after the russian shelling. however, in the expert environment, there are doubts about such an explanation. so what exactly is the reason and purpose of the tariff increase? why are the government's arguments criticized?
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specialized energy experts, for example, some of them say that the main beneficiary of the increase in electricity tariffs is the energoatom enterprise, should we expect an increase in the price of heat after the increase in the price of light, and does the increase in the price of light guarantee the availability of light itself? we'll talk about that later, but first listen to what the ministry of energy has to say about the tariff increase. electricity tariffs for the population have already increased by more than 60% since the first round. why exactly at this time... why and why now? we have significant damage and shelling, systematic shelling of objects civil energy infrastructure, ah, in fact, we have minus 8 gw of maneuverable capacity, affected thermal and hydrogeneration facilities, and for this we need to stabilize the operation of the power plant at peak consumption, it is necessary to carry out a complex repair campaign to restore that
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structure. equipment that can be repaired or the construction of a new generation to replace the destroyed one, why exactly such a tariff, well, we want to note that it is important that the total expenses for the generation of electrical energy are on average about 4.5 hryvnias, if we take ukrhydroenergo and energoatom, while we still have expenses for the distribution and transportation of electric energy, and in total it is more than... up to uah 7.5 per kilowatt-hour, we understand that the increase in this tariff covers only a part, correspondingly, the biggest load, since will have energoatom, because today, based on the overall balance, and more than 50% of the total consumption is borne precisely by energoatom from the production of electrical energy, this money is primarily used for restoration and repairs, as it is within the framework of the extended effect of the special.
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assigned special duties are actually distributed among all participants of the special duties market for companies that need to receive funds today to finance their repair campaign. but actually, why exactly from june, why not from may, or vice versa later? well, we understand that this is a complex decision, postponing it for later is irrational, because the sooner such a decision is made, the more time it takes. we have more income, we will actually receive from payment at such a tariff so that the companies still receive the actual funding to carry out their work, so today it is worth noting the most timely decision, it is balanced, and we hope that it is in this paradigm that companies will be able to receive all the necessary measures and ensure the execution of repair works in a timely manner,
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and if strikes on... infrastructure will continue

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