this was stated by the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on finance, banking, finance, tax and customs policy, yaroslav zheleznyak in an interview with radio nv. let's listen to what zheleznyak said. this is a small insight. yesterday, the parliament partially canceled this moratorium. this was spelled out in the new law, which, of course, no one there is chasing amendment after amendment after amendment, and nobody noticed this amendment, well, the deputies should probably read the law and... already yesterday, when i reread what we voted on, well, i saw, i'm sure it's partial the cancellation of the moratorium on tariff increases, although not for household consumers, well, that is , not for the conditional population, but for industry, everything is laid out there, so i think that we should expect such surprises from the government not only for electricity, mr. ivan, it is obvious that and the increase in electricity prices and the change in the prices of... heating, they will not change the situation,

what advice would you give to our viewers on how to prepare for winter? and look, as far as tariffs are concerned, you and i remember, and we know very well that from the first year of independence of ukraine, tariffs for electricity, heat and gas, they and water, electricity, heat, heat and water, they had nothing in common. with economic roughness, cost price, and so on, they were always formed through the prism of electoral, rating, electoral, through the prism of elections, and so on, so the country switched to a market economy, but we came up with our ukrainian know-how, where we in these three services we withdrew from the market economy.

there is no such miracle anywhere, it is our ukrainian miracle, and that is why we are forced by the government because of them they fixed the tariffs, then they wait, a year, two, three, one election, another, another, all the same, then they are forced to increase them, and at most two times or 2.5 times, because life, it, it forces it to do, because it is necessary to do according to tariffs, according to tariffs it is necessary to do the following, firstly, tariffs must include an inflationary component, firstly, because inflation is it, it is inflation of 7% for everything, why this inflation, if it applies to everything else in the market economy , but it does not apply to these water and electricity and heat, well, it cannot be, and secondly, secondly, in we have the lowest tariffs in the world, even only in turkmenistan the tariffs for... these services are lower,

so if we want to bring them closer to the cost price, there and at least gradually raise them, let's make a decision to raise tariffs by half a percent or by a percent per month, if which the family pays 400 uah per month for electricity, next month it will pay 402 uah, then 404, 406, and so on... for a year it is 6% for this or that or 12, and we will support the tariffs, no, there is no need for elections, we are for the people, we are for the people, and then we are forced and so on and and and then it cannot be explained, it concerns the tariff, which concerns the winter, we must imagine for ourselves and agree with this that the enemy...

is destroying the energy system, i will say at least 60, well, i could say 65% ​​of the energy complex is destroyed , capacity reserve -40, it will take years to restore it, it’s not, not one year and not two, so we have to live with it, we will win, we will overcome everything, there is no doubt, but we must be ready, in the summer period... oh yes, it will be difficult, because the high temperature, refrigerators, air conditioners, will apply these shutdowns, i think in the near future they will move to schedules, what i just said is possible, and the energy companies will do it, and in winter we need to think about how we will winter, so, first of all, especially in big cities, that's why i say, city authorities authorities... mayors should make these

points of indomitability so that if people can go into a warm room and wait there for some time, and if there are... acquaintances, relatives, friends, in villages, cities, district centers, so that come to an agreement, i'm not saying to go now or in the month of october, if there will be a need, where there is, such traditional heating, where there is firewood, coal and so on, so that you can also take and go, that people know where to go for some. it's time to be there, it's clear that for the social infrastructure, it's generators and heating systems, not only generators, heating systems, which work on electricity, if there is a generator, well, that

's a lot of measures are needed, a lot of experience, well, if people, what professionals, what career energy workers, i repeat once again kar. students who passed and know all the degrees, that's where they are have worked on many levels, they, they know this, and they can prepare and prepare for this set of measures so that the consequences are minimal. thank you, mr. ivan, for the conversation, it was ivan plachkov, chairman of the council of the all-ukrainian energy assembly, former minister of fuel and energy of ukraine. friends, we are working'. live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live, please subscribe to our pages and take part in our survey, today we are asking you about whether you think the increase in electricity tariffs is justified, yes, no, if your answer

is beyond a single answer, either yes or no, please write in the comments below this video , if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you... think a rise in electricity rates is justified? 0800 211 381, no 0, 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will pick up the results of this vote. next, we are in touch with oleg rybachuk, head of the center for joint actions, former head of yushchenko's presidential office and former vice-prime minister of ukraine for european and euro-atlantic integration. mr. oleg, i congratulate you, thank you. you are with us today, good evening, i realized for myself that it is necessary to prepare for inclusion from the points of invincibility for the winter, yes, well, plachkov says that this is how it will be, that these points of invincibility, after all, you have to think already , how to deploy, because there will be a problem

and a serious enough problem, i hope you have electricity now, so let's work in this slot and talk about the peace summit in switzerland. on june 15-16 , the peace summit will be held in switzerland, which will be initiated by president zelenskyi, more than 100 participants have already been announced, or rather, participants from 100 countries, and as ukrainian pravda writes, referring to some draft documents, i don’t really understand what it is, but it is a draft decision of the summit, apparently under pressure from switzerland and the global south to draft it. made decisions unfavorable to ukraine amendments that threaten the non-alternative status of president zelenskyi's peace formula. the key change is that zelenskyi's peace plan has ceased to be an alternative or even a key document for settling the war. now it is said that

the participants of the summit are based on the ukrainian peace formula and other peace proposals, without a special role of any of them. how do you, mr. olezh, evaluate this gathering? because it is probably not worth saying that it will be a summit, because it will not only be the first persons of the states, or is the definition of a peace summit correct here, considering to the fact that president biden will not be there, the leader of china will not be there, well, obviously , the prime minister of india will not be there either, or whether it can be considered a peace summit, well , i don't remember the event that yarmak presided over there somewhere in the arab countries. where the experts were presented, our, our media also called it a summit, then i protested, but now it is more like a summit, because there will be a number of first persons, but the question is not how to call it, the question is how much this

event will strengthen ukraine's position in future relations there, in particular with russia, because it must be said that... after this summit, it was already in the press, the next one is being prepared somewhere again in the arab countries, in saudi arabia or, somewhere, somewhere there. the summit, where china is actively involved in preparations for and at which russia should be present. i watched the material that you showed in the ukrainian truth, i also read bloomberg's information, but recently i saw the statement of our minister of foreign affairs, who actually denied this information, he said that ukraine is not is not going to give up his right. to present zelenskyi's formula at the summit and does not consider the possibility of any

other scenarios except for those formulations proposed by the ukrainian side, and will strive to ensure that the world community, it must be said that the turnout is indeed, the turnout is stated to be quite high, exceeded expectations there from more than 100 countries , it is true that there will be a different level of representation, but in spite of everything, our foreign minister. of affairs believes that we will be able to prepare and leave this summit with a consolidated position of most countries of the world, and then it will be possible to talk about the actually united or maximally consolidated position of most countries of the world, which makes the ukrainian position much stronger, but in this article the ukrainian european truth just called into question the very... consolidation , the unity of the participants, well , one thing can be said that during such events, during

the preparation of such events, that document, which is called a communique, or some joint statement, they can practice there until the last minute and certain corrections can already be directly during the summit itself, on the eve of this summit, just a few days ago, china said that they have... an alternative peace plan, and they will not go to switzerland, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine emphasized that all countries that sincerely seek the restoration of peace , should take part in the global peace summit in switzerland, and not make efforts to undermine it, i will quote the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine. the participation of a high representative of the prc in the summit could be a good opportunity to make a practical contribution in achieving a just and lasting peace in... in ukraine, restoring its territorial integrity against the backdrop of four summits between china and the state of russian aggression

at the level of leaders, which took place at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, this would be an important signal of china's balanced position, well, judging by the reaction in the world, and from the information that is already available, somewhere around 26 countries support the chinese peace plan, or simply put, it is a peace plan between china and russia, or is it trying in this situation? russia to discredit the global peace summit in switzerland and to say that not everything is so clear-cut, and the peace plan may be completely different than what zelensky is proposing. well, if putin said during the meeting with shchedinpin that the russian and the chinese are brothers forever, then the ukrainian and the chinese are definitely not brothers and at least not forever. i have talked about this more than once. that we had some hope there, hope, we spent a lot of

time hoping that something would change and china would at least be neutral, but remember the statements there by british intelligence about the readiness of china to supply lethal weapons, but i have, i told you that i had an episode in my life where i communicated, i was lucky with one of the two most famous experts, academics in the world, who... published several books about china, and she just blew out all my rosy hopes that the 6pin and the current government in china could be some kind of ally of ukraine, it is the ideological half-brother of the russian system, and that is why even the meeting recently yesterday, in my opinion, or yesterday, there was probably a meeting of zelenskyi's high-ranking adviser in beijing with... with an attempt to convince once again that china is an ideological ally, and

it is an ideological enemy of democratic europe, and since ukraine is part of democratic europe, it is an ideological enemy of ukraine, and the ideology is for shidzenpinna, for the communist party of china - this is the main one, there are not even so many economic factors, some geopolitical factors, but ideology determines the partnership, so we should not have any illusions here. in relation to the fact that china is preparing an alternative e-e summit, we have to wait to see how this one in switzerland will be held, well, first of all, the numbers are incalculable, and secondly,... let's see how this swiss forum will go into the next, the next, because it cannot be presented as a separate, unrelated event, because both forums declare a desire to achieve peace , justice, the triumph of international law,

that is, in the russian-ukrainian war, or the crisis, as china calls it, and therefore it will not be possible to... pretend that some other summit will be held somewhere in an arab country, even if russia is there, therefore, a lot depends on how the swiss summit will be held. on the eve of this summit, or rather, on the eve of several events, and there will be a meeting of the g7, a meeting today in normandy, about where, where the 80th anniversary of the allied landings in normandy will be celebrated or commemorated, a number of western countries and our partners have announced that they give permission for strikes on the territory of the russian federation with their weapons for the armed forces of ukraine. the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states of america, mack johnson, said in a commentary to the voice of america that the current partial authorizations for the armed forces to use

us weapons from the biden administration are not enough. let's listen to johnson. i believe, for defense and in order to repel the russians, that we need to give them the weapons necessary for that, i am against the president on this. i 've said it before and i'll say it again, we 're going to have a conversation with the white house about it. well, in response to the strikes, possible strikes have arrived from putin, strikes have already begun by the armed forces of ukraine on the territory of the russian federation, he is retaliating with strikes against the facilities of those countries that supply long-range weapons to ukraine, he said at a meeting with representatives of news agencies. let's listen to a small fragment. if someone thinks it is possible to supply such weapons to the war zone to launch strikes on our territory and create problems for us, then why do we not have the right to supply our

weapons of the same class to those regions of the world where they will be inflicted. strikes on sensitive objects of those countries that do this in relation to russia. after all, if we see that these countries are involved in a war against us, and this is a direct participation in a war against the russian federation, we we reserve the right to act in a similar manner. in general, this is a path to a very serious problem. mr. olezh, how do you assess this decision of our western partners, it is due to... it was late in time, but still something prompted our western partners to say so, is it the situation in the kharkiv region, around kharkiv, or were there some other motives for that , in order to grant the right of the armed forces of ukraine to strike on the territory of russia? well, actually these cracks have already gone, i mean, a number of countries have started

to allow the use of weapons, it's just that some countries don't supply us with weapons distant radio judges, and in fact , the focus was on the united states, and here we also heard news from the united states that it turns out that the united states never forbade us to shoot down russian planes on the territory of russia with its weapons, although before you and i discussed the information, in my opinion, from the german press, that the germans and the americans were hysterical when we shot it down... there were several planes and helicopters on the territory of russia by patriots, it turns out that there was never such a ban, although i do not believe this information, in a word, there was already a trend, but i personally believe that this is a response to russia's attempt to attack there and conquer, if not all of kharkiv, then part of the kharkiv region and simply

expand the front, and in this there is a certain logic of the american strategy, if biden said today, or said yesterday, that it is possible to strike there at a distance of 50 km, they allow it, to destroy russian troops that are gathering or russian equipment that is gathering or striking ukraine , then for example, right now it is not possible to attack the kremlin with atakams, but then this is a certain, certain signal to russia, because from time to time we hear and from time to time see attempts... to strike at the decision-making center, in particular, at the government quarters in kiev. and you don't have to be a very smart person to understand that if there are attempts, russia is there. so much, it's true, they don't have such capabilities yet, they tried, they, they would, if, they could, if, if, if they had such capabilities, but this too

a certain exposure there, well, i already have the word red lines, this is already it, it is already chilling simply, but this is how the game on these big chessboards goes, that when sanctions are introduced there in stages, it is always... space from the west to give an immediate adequate answer, and russia cannot stand this race, because there , commenting on this somewhat frightened statement by putin with some threats, what weapons and to whom can russia supply, if putin is now riding the weapons of the koreans, the same weapons that he promises to give to the same koreans, that the koreans were in europe, to whom he is going and what he is going to give, if they have china there right now. and korea, iran, they, they ask for these weapons for themselves, they have nothing to fight in ukraine, so i don’t know who these threats are aimed at, but in the west, and in the americans, you

and i know this for sure, there is a significant opportunity strengthen the military capacity of ukraine and provide us with much more equipment of the big radio of the judge, and today we received good news that intelligence information will be shared with us so that we can accurately they knew which ob... to strike in the territory of russia, because previously, as i understand it, we were not given this information about military facilities that are located, were located near the border of ukraine with russia on the russian side, and now we will have and this exact map. thank you, mr. oleg, for the conversation, it was oleg hrybachuk, a politician, a person who knows everything, or almost everything, about ukrainian politics. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are watching us now. live there on these platforms, subscribe to our pages and also take part in our survey, today we ask you about whether you think the increase

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your past day of the journalist, since you are now engaged in world politics, as expert, as the chairman of the board of the institute of world politics. let's start our conversation with the statement of biden, who in an interview with abc news explained exactly what a limited spirit means. ukraine on the use of american weapons for strikes on the territory of russia, let's listen to a small fragment of biden's answer. it is allowed to be used near the border, when the russians strike from the other side of the border at specific targets in ukraine. we do not authorize strikes on moscow, on the kremlin. well, i'm not thirsty in this synchronicity. in short, we don't sanction it yet, because well no one could imagine that the americans would allow the ukrainian army to use their weapons on the territory of the russian federation. how do you

assess these decisions that were made, well , over the last two weeks and over the last few days, the americans made this decision, how does it change the balance of power in the russian-ukrainian war? i raise the stakes. if we talk about whether biden could allow to hit moscow, then he could not do it, if only because we do not have missiles that would reach moscow, because for the information that was from open sources, we were given missiles with a range of no more than 320 km, that is , even if we wanted to hit, sorry for such a word in moscow, we were physically unable to do this, what biden is now saying is that we can already use missiles close to borders of ukraine. and

again, without mentioning the range there, it seems to me, a response, including yesterday's big press conference that vladimir putin gave, because vladimir putin yesterday made it clear to the whole world that he can also provide some conventional weapons, well let's say, countries unfriendly to the west in order to excite. new centers of escalation around the world, i really doubt that, apart from some terrorist groups, anyone can do this, as countries that are worried about their territorial integrity and that, in order not to get a quick response from the united states of america, but what... what

putin said yesterday, well, he should have received some kind of answer, but he received this answer today. at the same time, biden says that he, in another interview, time said that he is against the natovization of ukraine, and does this mean that by giving ukraine the right to strike on the territory of russia for no more than 200 miles, well, it is 300 km, at the same time, biden still ... does not give any hope, does not yet leave ukraine with hopes that ukraine will be a member of the north atlantic alliance, or at least that in july we will receive some kind of signal from nato. well, let's be adults, we will definitely not receive an invitation to join nato in july. the country is at war, i do not remember cases when the country is at war announced as a member. therefore, there may be

a transfer of f-16 aircraft to us during this period, but to hope that the anniversary summit in washington will end with an invitation there, well, i wouldn’t do it, i’m 99% sure that it won’t happen , commenting on the words of the american president to radio svoboda in the diplomatic mission of the united states of america to nato... that biden meant only the current unreadiness of ukraine for membership in the alliance, i will quote this statement of the diplomatic mission. the president made it clear that the future of ukraine to nato, which the united states confirmed at the summit in vilnius together with all other allies. the president spoke about the fact that he does not believe that ukraine is now ready for membership in nato, which he has repeatedly said and said before. last week, mr. viktor, there was information that our allies are asking

zelensky for this anniversary. summit in washington not to torpedo the issue of ukraine's accession to nato, in your opinion, will the ukrainian president listen, well , taking into account the fact that our foreign policy, it has been aggressive in a good way for the last two years, when zelenskyi and his team constantly keep the whole world on their toes and force them to do more than they promised, let's say, even more. than they hope to get from themselves, that is, we constantly try to encourage both nato countries and the countries of the european union that they are capable of doing more and that they should be able to make the right decisions, but the situation always turns out to be such that, for example, the same ...