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russian federation's trust in zelensky was 90%. last december it was 77, in february 64, and now it is 59%. this is still a high level of trust, larisa is almost 60%. does this mean that zelenskyi was and remains, well, a leader, despite everything, the political leader of the state, or does it affect it? war, or is it the level of trust in zelensky as a person who does the right things in ukraine? i think it's still an effect of war, it's, it's obvious when a person is in danger that they can't handle on their own, they need someone to trust, yes a person needs to trust a doctor, because before that, while he is still more or less healthy, he can judge on the internet and search. she has
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a disease, and when she receives a fatal diagnosis, she simply trusts herself and everything, and is treated, these things are what is happening now in ukrainian society, so the fact that the level of trust is so high, for me it is positive, it says about the fact that society is aware of the danger, it is important, er, the second point, me, for example, i am against its publication in general, sociology in general during a war on such subjects, because we know how much... the president himself is vulnerable to his credibility, to his popularity, and this sometimes holds him back from important decisions that are worth making and must be made in a time of war that are not popular, every time he sees that he has something falling somewhere, then we see maryana bezovla, brought down from the ashes, who begins to look for enemies, then among the generals, then among the opposition, then somewhere else, that is, i am very restless.
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by the fact that this information is still being collected at a time when there is no political process, and what it is going for, and how it will be used later, most likely attempts to add populism, which is so dangerous for ukraine during the war, well , it is obvious, it is absolutely obvious that they are zelenskyi’s team, like television people, they are focused on the rating , that is, those who work on television... and marina know for sure that every day we receive the ratings of our programs, we look at what happened yesterday, what numbers we had, the right guests, the wrong guests, they said the right thing, the wrong thing , probably someone else is needed to take, or, let's say, strive for other ratings, but against this background there is another figure that is also very interesting, despite this trust in zelenskyi, 55% of ukrainians do not... actively
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evaluate the activities of the presidential party servant of the people, at the same time most of them are very bad, this is again evidenced by the survey results of the kyiv international institute of sociology, another 31% of respondents have a neutral attitude towards the government party, only 9% of respondents are good or very good, although president zelenskyy is trying somehow to distance himself from this party, his servant of the people party, for literally weeks. a few weeks ago, at a closed meeting, zelensky seemed to say that, listen, the servant of the people - you have a leader in the verkhovna rada - david rahamia, and we have five or six managers here, we manage the entire state, and that , that servants of the people, this is the parish of david arahami and other party leaders. marina, in your opinion, do ukrainians have the understanding that the servant of the people is zelenskyi, well
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, she and this party have not become different, they are those people who, as they said, came to the parliament and the government with one passport in 2019, volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi? i want to say right away that i am against sociology, when some non-existent parties are measured there, yes, which have not yet been born in the embryo of the calf, its meat is already measured there, where it will go for sausage or roasting, but this one specifically. was very useful, because, as we could see, putin is very actively spinning the topic that zelensky is already illegitimate, with whom we should sign the peace treaty, that is, he is trying to find threads so that to wage war against ukraine, even when there will be some cold period directly on the front line, but this sociology has recorded that people clearly understand what zelensky is as a symbol of the state, and they consider him legitimate, until democratic ... the first post-war elections were held , but
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more and more zelenskyi is collecting negativity both from his party, and from the style of his state administration, and this figure of the evaluation of the people's servants. where people said that 55% believe that this party is generally clumsy and, well, incompetent, this is a diagnosis of the political power of the president, that is despite the fact that zelenskyi says that you have davyd rahamiy there, i have no relation to you, this is completely untrue, because let's remember that most of those deputies who became deputies of the servant of the people faction would never have become deputies, if it weren't for the effect of 2019, if there... the prefix didn't give you extra points, if you're even some nameless person who never appeared in the electoral district, so he won't wash away the negativity of the servants of the people, but this sociology kmits, yes, she is very interesting because of that
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people associate zelensky, but not as a physical person, but as a symbol of statehood, with the person we have to tolerate, who should represent the ukrainian state. not all people agree with his actions, there is a very interesting dynamic, for example, as of may 2022, zelensky was supported by 90%, then 77%, february 24th, when avdiyivka fell and this unethical drain of 64% took place, and now we already see that 59% trust zelenskyi, then the dynamics are obvious, trust in president zelenskyi will fall, but there will be... no plateau, when people will think, well, it is not ideal, but we need some symbol of statehood, until we have the first post-war elections, so we will endure, and of course in the same situation, i will remember
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another figure from these sociological surveys , because it is very important in fact, its president zelenskyi said that his five years have not ended, and he will not sum up, but... sociology still sums up and 50%, not 43% of ukrainians believe that for 5 years of volodymyr's presidency zelenskyi, the situation with democracy in ukraine has worsened, 28% of them are convinced that this happened due to the authorities' efforts to curtail the rights and freedoms of citizens, while 19% of ukrainians believe that the situation with democracy has improved, and 29 that it has not changed, i.e. 43% of ukrainians ... believe that in 5 years the situation with democracy in ukraine has worsened, is this, larisa, or is it a consequence of this, this monomajority, monopower, but without monoresponsibility, well, listen, when they are not talking about the rights and freedoms of citizens, i
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i wonder what percentage of them they mean the right to leave, that is, the impression that society ignores the fact of martial law, which in itself is a restriction of the rights and freedoms of citizens. here i am really struck by this combination of trust in the president and distrust in his political power, this once again shows that ukrainians still do not understand the meaning of the parliament, but they can, that is, we, we all understand that the party of the servant people, it was created and brought to power in such a way that there were no politicians, that there were no political decisions within the party, only the president, now the president is gradually losing to her in... you the opportunity to manage her and everything, and we, and we have an absolute collapse in the parliament, but this is not a subject political party, and the society, when it sees a servant of the people dissatisfied with the idleness of the party, does not identify with the leader who brought it under his own responsibility, at the same time society
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demands some rights and freedoms, ignoring the fact of war and the restriction of these rights and freedoms, because we are talking about the fact that we have to learn to live within the framework of the restriction of rights'. of freedom, they were everywhere, they were in the same britain, they were in the united states, during the war, they are always there when it goes, but it is not with less democracy, because democracy is not the right of freedom, democracy is the right of the minority when there is a majority, it is the minority, we have an opposition that nor can it fulfill its function, we have journalism that has been replaced by this marathon. and telegram channels, we are talking about the fact that we have some investigations, investigative journalism, which is ignored as a fact, it is a minority of such people, a minority of such groups, but they should have the right, this is democracy, not that people are now under curfew
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or are not allowed to go abroad. well, it seems to me that in the current situation, people still talk about democracy in the general context, because ukraine was only... it is clear that we defended the right to freedom of speech, the right to freedom on three maidans, starting from student, concluding. hundreds of thousands of people are in the armed forces and they defend the right to be heard and the right to be heard in ukraine for the future of a free and democratic country. marino, how can you in the conditions of war, considering the fact that the war involves the curtailment of right-wing freedom, as larisa says, still preserve democracy in the conditions. when we do not have a choice, or there is no right to re-election, there is a right, but
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there is no possibility to hold elections to the verkhovna rada or presidential elections. i would distinguish here the curtailment of democratic rights and freedoms, and some slight curtailment of them in the wartime regime. so, unfortunately, we very often see the curtailment of democratic rights and freedoms. why such a situation happened with the parliament, because... look, and always in favor any ukrainian president, be it petro poroshenko, be it yanukovych, be it others, the parliament acted as a balancer, and the parliament produced some healthy ideas, the parliament could oppose the government and oppose the president, and thus we had this council, ours is such a traditional historical system, and it did not always allow us to make quick decisions there, but it was a balancing act. then we have a huge crisis. state administration, there was such a neighboring kmis survey, where people there answered, and what worries them the most, yes
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and there, for example, the incompetence of the people who represent the current government, corruption and the lack of any political experience took three positions at once in what worries people. we understand that we have entered such a phase of the war, when management power, quality war management is very much needed. plus a communication crisis, because, for example, we are losing something there, somewhere we are not told about problems at some corner of the front until the last, and then all this spills out into very bad stories, and the crown of all these collapses democratic rights and freedoms, it must have been the situation with ukrinform, because it is an extremely very ugly story, when in 2024, in the era of super-fast internet, even with the lights turned off, a journalist. sent out memos where they advised veterans who, for example, want to talk about the problems
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of rehabilitation and prosthetics, to keep their mouths shut, this is completely inappropriate, and those journalists who were present at the meeting with the j7 ambassadors at the time said that the j7 ambassadors were simply amazed, so that they had never seen such know-how anywhere the world, all this triggers people, because we each have this right, we fought for every democratic freedom not only for two... yes, let's choose, by the way, ah, for all these 11 years of war, that's why i wouldn't want , so that some not-so -bad characters who, during the hype of 2019 , accidentally became deputies there, and now all this is curtailed, because it was fought for by the blood of many people. thank you, marina, larisa, what are the fuses that allow us to say that here we are, we will not allow the dark men to return again, we will not allow... the joint was destroyed, we will not allow there to be a limitation of three tv channels, which are already
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limited, the third year they do not appear in t2, an absolutely voluntary decision, the fifth channel is direct and espresso, in the absence of elections, in the absence of elections and in the presence of martial law, in which we are now, how to protect democracy? well, the fact is that elections do not help much in this matter, because the voter goes to the elections. a diligent person chooses someone who, as a pre-election promise, puts forward not the protection of freedom of speech and something else, but there for example, we will plant, or we will do them all together, well, that’s not it, it’s not the principles, it’s not the values ​​for which, so the question here is that when we say temniks in ukrinform, it’s specifics, when we say an attack on society and the dismantling of this public television. as a phenomenon, turning it into a state platform, these are specifics, and
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the incompetence of people, what we see, corruption, this is what, this is exactly where, here they are, what they mean, the incompetence of those who make decisions, specifically who , yermak is not for you i like it, so let's put it this way, we don't like that the office of the president is an unconstitutional body that has taken over the powers there, okay, but we, we are always not about specifics. and when the elections begin, the specifics are even less, that's the problem, because the ukrainian voter should defend the values ​​and should defend the principles of democracy, and these principles, they are clear, they are. outlined, and you can't be wrong when you see that the government, in the state kerunform , are handing out temniki, you understand that this is a violation of freedom of speech, you, as a citizen in a democratic state you can't tolerate it, and it's more important than some abstract corruption that you've never seen, you see a corrupt person, you have to push and watch for him to be imprisoned, but abstract corruption is nothing, eh,
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well maybe so, although anti-corruption legislation was said to be the best in europe, in general there is no better one in the world, well, that was just recently, as kuchma said, well, that’s all, that’s all already happened, that yes, but consider that 2016 is a little bit other challenges, these are not the challenges of wartime, when there are a number of temptations, i highly recommend paying
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attention to our colleague yuriy nikolov, who carefully investigates corruption cases with facts and figures. affairs, for example, he recently mentioned a very interesting figure that every tenth hryvnia in the budget was spent on road construction in 2020-2021, so there is something to ask about, and here we are not talking about abstract corruption, but about corruption with clear names and positions, yuriy nikolov names them very clearly, i strongly advise you to see what he talks about there, as well as denys bigus, i already i am silent what is every anti-corruption investigation, you know, in our country it then turns into a hit, towards journalists, journalists, especially male ones, then it is customary to call them dodgers, if you are an investigator, a journalist, then you will definitely be called a woman of low social status there of responsibility and they will talk about some made-up romances there, so this is also a very unhealthy story, and
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our western partners see it, and therefore... when we read any document, by the way, there regarding our entry into of the european union, it is written everywhere: no pressure to fail, freedom of speech, and then we will talk, friends, what to do with you next. thank you maryna, i will remind our tv viewers that we are working live and conducting a survey today, we are asking you if you are ready for long-term blackouts, yes no. if you watch us on youtube, vote either with the yes or no button, write your comment below. with this video, if you watch us on tv, take your smart phone or phone and vote 0800 211 381 if you are ready for long blackouts, no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free. another short topic, i hope we will discuss it very quickly, is putin, he
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spoke again at this so-called economic forum in st. petersburg about the so-called usurpation of power, which began in 2004, well, that is, this delusion is carried by the kremlin grandfather quite often, at the same time, the russian dictator called the statement that the russian federation wants to attack nato delusional. let's see and listen to how he generally talks about europe, about europeans and about what, how they see themselves behave in relation to russia? they didn't invent that russia wants to attack nato, you got it right here. like this table, who came up with it, it's stupid, it's delusional, we defend ourselves in ukraine, we have no imperial ambitions, believe me, it's all delusional, as well as the threat from russia to nato and european countries, what are you doing, look at the potential nato, look at the potential of russia,
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what have you decided that we are crazy or something, this combination is very interesting to... phrases: we defend ourselves in ukraine, and we have no imperial ambitions, believe me, larisa, or europe will believe putin, well, from the point of view of psychology, when a person says believe, then he is lying in general, and in the same place, a little further on , he said that russian, in general , russian bombs are tactical, they are three times stronger than for others, and yes kilotons, and if it is somewhere ge... not in europe, then let them think for themselves, that is, he simply contradicted himself, and here there is an important point that he really appeals to faith, because he tries in this way ... deny facts, facts of aggression, facts of attack, including hybrid attack, sabotage, cyber attack on countries, on countries of the european union and
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nato countries, so in this case it is an exclusive appeal of trust, that's why he removes these contradictions in his own speech, it looks like madness. thank you, maryna, how do you perceive this madness, it is clear that... putin, well, he lies by default, that is , before the attack on ukraine, he said, we will not attack, we will not go to ukraine . lavrov said: "no, no, we, we will not do this." should it be understood in europe that when they say that they are like dumb as a table or what he was saying there, roared, compared them, or does it mean that this is a signal to europe that he will go there. of course, if putin - so be it. which russian official says that we have no intention to attack anyone, we are the most peaceful country in the world, this means that we need to prepare. it seems to me that the best of all these words of putin is refuted by the recent
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publication for a short period of very interesting documents on the website of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, where they announced that they are unilaterally changing a number of maritime borders with the baltic countries with finland. and it is precisely this document that they then very quickly hid. forced many neighbors, namely from northern europe and the baltic states, the russian federation, to look at their security from a different point of view. and here was a very interesting statement by the head of the armed forces of sweden, who said: these, well, we have read these documents, and we understand that the russian federation is sleeping and sees how to seize our gotland island, and i will remind you, literally a month and a half before the full-scale intrusion. the russian federation believed that that ukraine will fall in three days. they had a very clearly drawn up plan, they voiced it on the air of 60 minutes about how they would then
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land on gotland, kill rebbe nativsky and take over the baltic states. thank you, lord, our friends have made up their minds and are very actively preparing for a full -scale invasion. in other words, they drew conclusions from those conclusions, which, unfortunately, they were not prepared for. of ukraine on the eve of the 22nd year. thank you, marina. larisa, maybe he is playing the role of a madman? i mean putin. he does play the part, but he plays it very well. well, this is the theory of games, there is even a game of crazy that gives its profits. we have to notice that what is madness? these are contradictions that the psyche is not aware of. a healthy psyche is always aware of contradictions. and here he is in this speech, where he says that we are free, god, he. at the same time gives these contradictions, thereby he proves, yes, i am crazy, be careful, i am capable of anything, well, but crazy terrorists are dealt with in the same way all over the world, they are simply
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killed, destroyed and everything, and this sword is us with you, er, but our sword should probably be the strengthened sword is not yet in our hands, but while we are the sword, in the very, very trembling hands of the west. but little by little they are coming to their senses and sooner or later we will be soldier subjects shoulder to shoulder. marina, i mentioned that putin is a terrorist, well, a classic terrorist, who terrorizes not only ukraine, but also threatens other countries in europe and the united states of america. why don't they treat him like a terrorist, they don't negotiate with him, they just kill them. well, first of all, look, everyone understands that russia, despite the fact that it, well... which has lost its place of civilization, it is still a nuclear country, and no one wants to have these excesses with nuclear weapons. it must be very clearly understood that putin will be in his position,
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obviously until the physical end, and if you look at the official biography of his parents, he still has 10 years left in him, this is a completely sober estimate, plus with the medical care that has vladimir putin. but you know, we are not sword in hand for. we must be the sword with which we sharpen and with which we hit the target. we are a nation of killers, and it's too bad, you know, ours diplomacy now, in the name of yermak, has for some reason reduced our role to a country that trades corn with african countries, we are a match, and this sword must be sharp, because we will finish the russian federation, but we understand that it has been playing for a long time. perhaps there will be another phase of the war with the russian federation after the temporary one there. and then it is necessary to prepare for the final battle. thank you, marina. colleagues, thank you for participating in the program. larisa voloshina, maryna danylyuk yarmalayeva, thank you for an interesting conversation and
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for an interesting one. evening in our studio, so we conducted a survey by friends, throughout our broadcast and asked you about whether you are ready for long-term blackouts, the results of our television survey are 20% yes, 80% no, on youtube we have a ratio of 33% yes, 67% - no. that's it, friends, i'll put an end to it, i'll say goodbye to you until monday, at 8:00 p.m. we'll always meet on the air of the tv channel, there will be a new verdict, there will be new guests, please come , it will be interesting, but for now i wish you a good weekend, take care of yourself and your loved ones, bye, laughter, physical activity, sneezing, even during such
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wednesday putin met with foreign news agencies, well, you already know this meeting itself, in principle, it can be said that it is such a separate action, which was carried out by russian propaganda, because after a very long time, they showed that putin is already becoming some, you know, figure with whom you can talk. at least for the time being decent, or semi-decent journalists, and this is actually very bad, because before, of course, there were some general press conferences of putin, where foreign media were present at the meetings, well, they were given the floor, of course one or two question, it is meant specifically in the western countries, but very much so a narrow circle of such meetings had not happened for a very long time, and in fact.

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