tv [untitled] June 8, 2024 12:30pm-1:01pm EEST
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this is actually entering the war on the side of ukraine, because putin's ultimatum was not to kyiv, it was to washington and brussels in the 21st year on december 15, these documents exist, this ultimatum was made by them, and in some parts it has already been destroyed, well, firstly, by the lack of an answer to him, if such a capitulation, and secondly, sweden and finland are already members of nato. there still remains to accept ukraine and it is possible to close this whole story, so i think that it will not be otherwise, that is, there are two ways, in this war there are only two ways, well in war is meant in the confrontation, which is difficult to determine in the period how long it will be, but one is the capitulation of ukraine, and the second is the defeat of russia, through the actions of a joint coalition of countries led by the united states of america. your britain, that's all, when we
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come to it, this is an important question, everything rests on the fact that i do not doubt the victory, i do not doubt, i am only a big problem, the resources of the country, of ukraine, it is not from, well, life you can't restore people, and professional, military, and those who are motivated and know how to fight, it's not back you will return, so the logic that our... partners have, that we will now continue to exhaustion , and i can already see it, for next year, it is wrong. i believe that they need to understand the situation better, and concentration of efforts and bold actions can definitely lead to a result, and this should be done, how to convince them of this? well, you see, when they were afraid that it might come back into their territory, the supplies of arms for us went. as soon as they see that war may
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come to their home, some steps begin, therefore, we have no choice, we cannot create conditions under which we allow an invader to pass through our territory so that he strikes somewhere else, which could be, by the way, unfortunately, here he is near us, so we have to convince, we have to show these scenarios, and they are obvious to me, it is obvious that nato will face russia, they somehow think that they have them... the secretary general declares that there is no direct threat, why there is no direct threat to russia, nato, because ukraine is a distraction to we have all these forces, as the commander of the norwegian army says two or three years, because in fact all those who were standing next to us, about this land component, all of them were dismembered by the ukrainians, that is, russia removed everything from all points, well... sorry,
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yes, if so, now it turns out, does ukraine provide and guarantee the security of nato countries? where did we come? and these bravura statements then, well , excuse me, again, weapons, weapons are wonderful, and without them there is nowhere, and your help is important, but they do not win like this, so there will be, sooner or later in this war, there will be nato troops , and america will be, well, i don't know which ones countries, but europeans will definitely. only our neighbors will definitely be, because if poland, romania, slovakia, the baltic countries, if they delay, then a war will come to their territory, that will be all, only it must be faster, otherwise the exhaustion of ukraine, well, it is not in our interests ukrainians, let's be honest, that's why i want us to share this responsibility for the future of europe, and not single-handedly pull this line against such a strong one. in principle, a large
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country with nuclear potential. mr. valeriu, literally during the last two weeks ukraine received permission to use western weapons for strikes on the territory of russia. biden confirmed that the americans give permission for missile strikes 200 miles deep, well, 300 km deep into russia, and he says that, well, we did not give permission to eh... regarding strikes on moscow and on the kremlin, apparently , have not yet been given, but macron has already said that france will transfer the mirage 2000 fighter to ukraine and will conduct appropriate training for ukrainian pilots as part of new military cooperation with kyiv to counter russian invasion let's listen to what the french president said. tomorrow we will start a new cooperation program and announce it simply. ukraine
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to protect its land and airspace. starting tomorrow, we will start the pilot training program. we will hand over these planes by the end of the year. mr. valery, what in your opinion prompted our western partners to move to a new stage of cooperation with ukraine, to grant permission for strikes on the territory of the russian federation. the situation with kharkiv, the offensive in kharkiv oblast, or other reasons prompted our western partners to reconsider their position? well, i think there are three main factors. the first, the one i already mentioned, is the fear that the war will come to them, that is, well, let's be honest, they began to analyze the situation, that if ukraine is not helped in this way, this is the position, sorry, give it all,
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drag with planes , as we see again, that is , f16, even if the planes come there or there is already something, then the pilots now the question has arisen, that is, well... well, the mirages said, everything is fine, so why only now, that is , before they said that f- 16 only, but not mirages it is necessary, because it is necessary to consolidate all this and the f-16, we adopted such a position, now it suddenly appeared, although i know that the training of pilots on other aircraft was already in france, so maybe it will somehow go faster than with the f- 16, further, and why was it then not possible to shoot swedish then what... taurs can increase , they said because f16, that is, you know, well, it’s on , well, it’s clear to me, it’s clear to me that it’s all difficult, it’s clear to me that it’s more to a certain extent , it is not part of the logistics that only 12 pilots can fly the us f-16 by the end of the year
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to prepare, when i hear that, i, well, it makes me uncomfortable, because, well, once again, the united states can prepare 12 pilots by the end of the year. well, what are we talking about, well, the usa and 12 pilots, well, well, well, who are you telling all this about, it’s only a political decision and that’s all, now the french president is declaring that by the end of the year it’s already fading, well, that is, look , from the beginning of the summer until the end of the year mirages, and what else at 16, a year and a half come to us, then i have a question, that is, they need to finish all these games in this strategy of regulated escalation, it can end badly for them, for... not only for us, i.e., this is the first moment, the second, there is really no order on the border, when there is no possibility to strike on the territory of the enemy, and weapons are being accumulated there, and strikes are carried out from there, then of course
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international law allows this, if we have political decisions like that, they were, we know publicly, we even said that we negotiate with the americans, that is, how we use these weapons, not only... with the americans, with all countries, this true, it's a very weak position, very weak, and uh, me i mean in agreements, for example, security ones, i would by no means prescribe all the obligations of ukraine not to use this weapon against russia, as there is, for example, in the agreement with belgium, on the one hand they give f16, on the other hand they do not it is possible on the territory of russia, but how, in what way, with missiles , shoot down those planes that drop guided bombs on kharkiv, what should he... squeeze over the border and what to do next? well, for a non-military specialist it is absolutely obvious that this is a delusion. who will calculate which f16 is there, belgian, danish or dutch flying, that is, what we are talking about, it is
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so much that we are tired of all the maneuvers, we are tired of these conversations, because it is often, well , blev, often it is, if it is blev in terms of supplies and we do not know everything, then great. exactly, but let's see what is being done, on every website of the ministry of defense, the us pentagon, france, germany, they publish every time how many weapons they have provided, i understand that they do not publish everything, but basically they publish it all, this what is he, do you remember this during the second world war, when hitler fought so that the allies would show to the germans, how much of what they are leasing there, the numbers, where, in what terms, well, to be honest... it worries me a lot, because on the one hand, this is a report to taxpayers, i understand, but no taxpayers , i will remind you, they did not press for all these lists to be on the websites of the ministry of defense, this is some kind of strange story, when they saw something like this,
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such blows are being uncontrollably inflicted and hit on civilians in kharkiv, the sumy region, then of course, they were forced to do it under pressure, now i would say that now... the good side, well, they consider there that you can't hit the kremlin, moscow, but 320 km deep into russian territory around the entire border, because i can't see it. there is no objection, around the entire border with russia, this zone will become a buffer zone in the future, because it is impossible to get closer, of course it would be good at the distance of iskander there, strategic bombers, i would, of course, drive past the urals if possible, well, but it worked out, but for 320-400, so that the iskanders were somewhere on the edge, yes, this is in the future, in in the future, i'm not saying now, but in the future to see. this will be a very important element, because then ukraine, creating on the territory of russia, well, not us, but allies, when
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there is already victory, creating this buffer zone in the agreements, there will be some guarantee that they from russia will not repeat these strikes on kharkiv, in sumy, in other border cities, in donetsk, in luhansk, i.e., that is what is important for us to fix now, so that from the position... not to hit the nepz, even with ukrainian weapons, to the position, which is possible at 320 km, i think if it we have passed this way in a month, it is already good, and we should remove this conversation about these bans altogether, wars are not won like this, they are not won if you have any agreements with the russians about no no no no further escalation, well , i think that the period has already come when putin and... this regime has crossed all the red lines, that is, where are you going, if they threaten you with nuclear weapons, if they
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send ships to cuba, it is not known what will be carried there in these ships, that is, you you understand, the historical parallels, what signals putin is sending, that is, in this too, v this position will show weakness, well , firstly, it will be a historical mistake, and secondly , it will lead to problems for all these countries, not only ukraine. i will remind our viewers that we are working. live and we're doing a poll today, we 're asking you about the lights today, are you ready for long-term blackouts, yes no, it's pretty simple on youtube, if you 're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you are prepared for long blackouts, although i don't know how you can be prepared for that, but oh well at least we will ask you 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 380. two, please write in the comments under youtube, under the broadcast on
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youtube, what you think about this, and of course comment on our broadcast, we read your comments, we are interested to know, what do you think about what was said and heard on our broadcast, let me remind you that today we have a visiting diplomat, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine valery chaliy, and you already said, mr. valery, that putin is constantly... trying to blackmail and and nato countries understand that sooner or later putin will go to war on the north atlantic alliance, on the countries of the north atlantic alliance, at a large forum that took place in st. petersburg, the so-called economic forum, the russian dictator, at a meeting with foreign journalists, once again threatened western countries with nuclear weapons for... this is such a very
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tough topic: the united the united states is the only country that used nuclear weapons during world war ii. hiroshima, nagasaki - 20 km. our tactical nuclear weapons are 70-75 kton. this is such a tactical nuclear weapon. let 's not only prove to use, but... as for the threat of use, for some reason the west believes that russia will never use it, but we have a nuclear doctrine, look at what it says: if someone's actions threaten our sovereignty and territorial integrity, we will consider it possible to use all available we have the means, you can't treat it lightly, superficially, you have to treat it professionally, i know. mr. valery, you don’t really like to comment on putin and, in general, what he says, but i will still ask, and what
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does it mean to treat the nuclear issue professionally weapons in the putin variation, me me, how is the world supposed to professionally discuss this with him, well, what he translates, what he said, if you think i'm not crazy enough not to order this, then you are wrong. "i have already matured to pull everyone along, look at me, you see what a maniac i am, then i can go further, this is what he told them, this is a professional assessment in his understanding." because in fact, if you say professionally, what was said there, you can't threaten, at the same time they do it all the time, not just are threatening, there his deputy on the security council declares that he declared a strike of strategic nuclear weapons on london, on paris, on i don't know, on washington, he called it,
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and what is it, it is prohibited by all conventions, as professionally, professionally, if to if this is the case, then after... such a statement , it is necessary to use conventional weapons to completely bomb everything that they deliver here, deliver, if it is professional, then there should have been a professional response, he mocks that there is no professional response from the west to his threats today, and mocks him in because you see what we, we russians, can send death, as he already said, we don’t even need to mobilize, we have 460. they came voluntarily, they want to fight, death is coming, well, lies, well, liars, well, it’s not clear that this is a person who simply lies, that is, he is a professional kagibist, he creates all these schemes himself, and in these schemes they take advantage of the weakness of perception, so that everyone will be afraid, he named, you see, he names 70 k-t with numbers, well who,
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for example , knows, and whether in russia at all they can... do something, they declared these training, something was taken somewhere, the americans in response, took and tested tactical nuclear weapons, in a different way, without detonation, that is, they, i don’t know the details, but the americans released some information about this in the media, yes, the media leaked, and that my , well , my conclusion, which i made by communicating with specialists in this field, is that before using... nuclear weapons, you must first understand and test whether they will explode in the event of such actions somewhere on their territory, that is, you must to make some kind of test, which was not there in 1996, if i'm not wrong in russia, that is, it's the first,
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the second, there is one such moment, putin understands perfectly well, the first attempt is you... to use a tactical nuclear charge there, whatever, there is no difference, that is, that's all, that's the end of his story for him , because i don't think that china in this situation will behave as it is now, it is clear that the usa will do it differently, he was warned about this, so he basically gives it all, he directs these words to his own, to his own, abalvaninovo propaganda of societies'. or those who remained there, and to such right-wing, left-wing radical groups abroad, well, actually those who later write newspapers about these statements, then promote this topic a lot from these statements, you see, there are already russian statements, the others are worthless, well, in principle, if
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the spokesman of the pentagon declares some serious things, the whole world is watching it. and the spokesman is russian, they destroyed 1,000 hymers, 500 patriots there, that is, well, well, well, what are we talking about, and i am not, i claim that putin is lying in this situation, because he knows perfectly well about the agreements that he has, including washington and beijing on nuclear weapons, and he knows very well that if he applies,... well, you know, this is the story, everyone thinks that it will be the end of the earth and everything else, but there will actually be an end to the rest, there will be an end to the fact that pandora's box will be opened and very quickly there will be two dozen, or even more, nuclear states in the world, that is , even in this situation, russia will generally
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shut up very seriously then they are simply dissected. or from china and others, because no one can't stand it anymore, so it still somehow affects someone, i don't know who it affects? it affected us in ukraine very seriously in 2022, it affected our partners at the end of 22 they react because they understand that the first ricochet... it will hit putin personally, so the second other words that he repeats there 10 times all the time, when these are the threats at first, and then he repeats, no, no , no. russia will not use, like karaganov, serhiy karaganov, well, he is such an apologist for this promotion of the topic of nuclear and incineration strikes. and they played out the scenario
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today that he asks putin a question, and putin says: "no, we will not use these weapons, we have enough of our conventional forces to achieve the result." you understand, right? that is, it's all a game. and, god forbid, ... he will come to some such decision, well, i think that there can also be deterrents, at least, i think that in the us they understand that, in any case, any transfer, everyone, all charges are under control, any transfer, as soon as it starts, you will see, it will appear immediately in the key information agencies of the world, because then the americans and others will pour this information right away. from where, who have access, they will immediately pour all this into the information space, because it is without a doubt, so that you do not doubt, so now it is necessary to understand that even without nuclear weapons
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, our people are being killed, and the number of dead, in principle, on the part of russia has already exceeded the death toll in nagasaki and hirras, that is, you understand the scale of russia's losses in the war against ukraine. yes, sir. valery and it is clear that two important summits for ukraine are ahead, this is the global peace summit, which will be held on june 15-16 in switzerland, and in july the nato summit, the anniversary summit of the north atlantic alliance, regarding the first summit, the global peace summit, three out of 10 points zelenskyi's peace plan seems to have been agreed upon for consideration at this summit. but latvian president edgars rinkevičs says that ukraine's victory in the war has to be based on the ukrainian peace formula, and
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he stated this at the security forum in riga in response to a question about what he understood by ukraine's victory. i have a very simple answer to your question: we support president zelensky's peace formula, this is the first. second, ukraine should become a member of the eu and nato. what a complete victory of ukraine in this war will mean for us, well, that's how the president of latvia quite clearly articulated what victory in this war of ukraine means. at the same time, we see how china is also trying to promote some kind of peace strategy says that 26 countries of the world seem to support this peace strategy, what will happen'. at the peace summit, we will obviously see whether, in your opinion, there will be a parallel summit that china will hold in the interests of russia and
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present some other peaceful plan, well , in order to say that not only zelensky has a peaceful plan, regarding ukraine, and in china, or simply put, in russia? well, first of all, really, we will see by the result, the main thing is that it is not blurred, that the plan is there. peaceful, the main one representing ukraine, there now there are certain risks that there may be some joint document blurred that will blur this position, but this situation can be circumvented, i think diplomats are working on it now. regarding china's attempts, china is seeking the surrender of ukraine. everything is very simple, well, he understands that ukraine will not go for it, so he is satisfied with such, on the one hand, prolonging the war, on the other hand. drag on for a long time , it is also unprofitable for china to include what i said, and it will be irreversible if other countries join this war, then china will lose,
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china will lose the situation, and putin will lose, so now is the right moment, they want to record the victory of russia, that is, from a weakened russia, which is beneficial to china, they will soon remove the party members there, that is, i mean in terms of energy, china is playing. well, if we talk about us, then against us today, in relation to all his statements about the number of countries, well, these are empty statements so far, this is no non-peaceful plan of china, there are three positions, stop fighting, let's put it this way, that what putin wants to leave behind and stop what's next to talk about what's the security umbrella what's next nothing china doesn't do it so i think it's... absolutely not undeveloped seriously if we talk about the importance of china it's really important its position it's yes it's simply in support of russia, we have problems, of course, we are
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also from china. in fact, we don't have any such understanding now and we don't know what to do with it, that's why president zelenskyi has already made such harsh statements, but apparently, in principle , we need to understand that, well, think about that china, unfortunately, is not on our side, we will have to take some kind of measures here in order to at least from this... reduce these threats from its side, now with regard to various plans for peace, well, the situation is still such that the plans peace is far away, that is, no summit or meeting, it will not yield results yet, and there is no need to formulate any exaggerated expectations for the peace summit, what will happen next depends on the position
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of many countries of the world and... there is such a struggle for minds, for that they should consider the threats to their countries, it is a pity that the intentions of the holding of the summit fell on a completely different time than it was planned, after all, we thought earlier that sometime in the summer we would have some opportunities to really stop the war, but there is no such thing, china will take the initiative, they will gather around the brics, the brics that for... now it's so strange that out of five countries, it has turned into ethiopia, iran, that is, other countries, plus, well, there are also middle eastern countries that have joined, some format of partners, that is, they are forming an anti-american coalition, so anti-american. well, in principle, logically, the world is going that way right now, dividing into two parts: the authoritarian group headed by
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china, and here he has bowed. the representative of one vassal country is sitting, which simply surrenders to china, all of russia, i.e., and then everyone who depends on or is interested in supporting china, and the allies of the usa, nato, the european union, japan, new zealand, australia, i.e. south korea, now there is such a division, and in principle there will be attempts, what you said, to dilute the position. formulas of peace, but i think that we must also understand that we must also be dynamic, those things that seemed key before may now be less important, on the contrary, other positions will be more sensitive for us, so i would not make a single document at the peace summit, you can make statements in various areas of food security, energy, there's an exchange... we, but
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what you definitely don't have to do is give up your positions, because i'll say one thing, it's always very difficult in the last period when there's really attrition, and it feels like we have the resources are not ours eternal, and diplomatic activity, and foreign work, well, and at the front, that's why the impression is that here and now... they are already exhausting and it is not known what, but the enemy also has the same story, so we will have to endure more and , including, increase our abilities in foreign diplomacy, to work not only non-standard in form, but effectively in content, to be flexible, to use contradictions between different countries, to use the interests of countries. that is
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, to use all possible ukrainian resources in order to work, including on in the chinese direction, we should not let go of this direction, here it is simply necessary to achieve a dialogue with china in other ways. well, as for the global peace summit, as swiss president viola amhert says, russia can already participate in the next peace conference, i quote. madam president of switzerland, it is clear to us that we will not sign a peace agreement based on the results of the conference. for peace , both sides must sit at the negotiating table. russia could be present at a possible next conference. in her opinion, the summit in switzerland will become the basis for further negotiations. in this situation, viola amhert says that peace must be signed.
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