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and which will smoothly transition into the swiss format, where the peace formula will be discussed, what is being said publicly in your opinion, and what is most importantly being said privately when we talk about certain parameters of the security situation. it should be noted that there is indeed such a surge in international activity, in particular, in the schedule of the president of ukraine, two meetings with president biden, followed by a representative forum. in switzerland, you can say how fateful he is there, what issues he will solve there, that is another question, but as they say about the elections, there will be a turnout quite high, and a key story: the swiss peace forum, what issues will be discussed, we understand that three key cases will be discussed there, yes, in particular, they will talk about nuclear security, well, in particular, about the prospects of using or not using nuclear weapons by the chinese.
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it won't be there, we understand that the prime minister is changing in india, that is, the situation, as the classics said, is quite dynamic, yes, quite pre-new year, and the elections are starting, in my opinion, already today the netherlands will start voting for the elections to the european parliament, and changes in the european parliament almost predict an increase in right-wing radical forces, not all of these forces are anti-european there, but it is clear that the situation... the european parliament can be quite difficult, and this must also be remembered , because it is extremely important for you and me in europe, as far as switzerland is concerned, expectations from switzerland, i personally do not have any special expectations there, i understand that the closer we got to this summit, then several factors played a role our role, for some reason we in ukraine paid too much attention to china and... china's participation,
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china, he felt it subtly and, directly or through allies, significantly diluted our position at this swiss forum, because at first ukraine clearly said that it was our war, we are fighting, this is our peace formula, and the forum is gathering to support zelenskyi's peace formula. and in recent days, the position has already blurred, they are already talking about the fact that there may be others. offers from other countries there, the same china or brazil or turkey, that is, no longer the only document is the peace formula edited by zelenskyi, further, we remember that there were 10 points in this peace formula, and we hoped that for each of the points such interest groups would be created and certain solutions would be worked out, now you really just mentioned, it is about three topics for discussion, the three areas are nuclear safety, food safety and the exchange of...
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prisoners of war, china in the end officially announced that it will not be at this forum, but managed to influence, and ukraine was forced to make certain concessions, which in principle they don't help us much, because we need to have a clear position, and in china, in the chinese plans for meetings there, including the next one from the peace forum, and here too the question arises, well, if... if we are at this swiss at the peace forum, we will be able to adopt some very vague resolution, then this will not indicate a unified position of all the participants, which are expected to be more than 100, and then literally after a few months we will fly to some other forum, where russia should already be, because at first the logic was quite clear, we wanted to have such a consolidated position of peace, democracy, in the world, which would
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speak very clearly about the inadmissibility of border violations, responsibility for aggression, where it would be possible to formulate a position with which one could come to russia and say: look, that's all there world 100 countries of the world have this view: now you have to think about how you, russia, will behave in relation to the vast majority of countries in the world, and now it is not happening that way, because eh... most likely, in switzerland, we are not we will get some very clear and understandable communiqué or statement, then the next meeting will already be there with russia, and russia is a master at breeding tereveni, well, this is essentially a chinese platform and a chinese idea, that is, the chinese wanted to nullify or diminish the status of the global forum in switzerland dedicated to the peace formula and accordingly, to create some... alternative
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structure, an alternative summit, where the aggressor state, the russian federation, in particular, would be present, the chinese would like to somehow orchestrate this whole thing, we understand correctly. they are quite successful manipulated, now, thanks to their position, i'm sure, countries like brazil, we increasingly hear explanations for the fact that russia will not be there, well, except that today ciartó announced that he will make the forum happy with his presence and hungary will be represented at the level of his sziarto, such changes have taken place, well , hungary heard the call of belgium, which is now... presiding over the european union, about the fact that the right to vote should be taken away from hungary, because it completely disagrees with the position of the european union, maybe is a factor or something else, well, but i don't think that this is such a big event, will it add to the prospects or
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success of the forum, i mean the representation of hungary at the level of art, how can such forums affect the situation related to the war, so we understand that the war - it's... not only about, i don't know, military actions, but also about the resources for their support, we understand, the position of the united states, thank god, has been corrected, in the amount of 61 billion dollars plus. on the other hand , a rather non-trivial opinion of the president of the united states biden was heard in one of the interviews, he says: well, that in order to ensure ukrainian security, it is possible, in principle, to join nato and not join the agenda of the washington summit, this is also not a question... will stand, they will find some very strong signals, well, that's how biden's position is changing, well, he hinted , he even went on to say why, he said that he, as vice president, had dozens of meetings there, visited ukraine, and he called this
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word corruption, as ukrainian president kuchma said, that it is not a word of ukrainian origin, but it... . very well known in ukraine, and remembering also blinkin's statement before this, his last visit, we understand that here the ukrainian authorities must finally understand that this policy of emotional blackmail is working, and that it is necessary to demonstrate ukraine's readiness and, in fact, its ability to be a reliable partner of nato, well, because if we are talking about... in nato, those allies who supply us with weapons had the biggest problem, it was the effective use of funds for these weapons, i don't want to talk about embezzlement, let's say, the effective use of funds, and one with requirements was an audit of how our ministry
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of defense, how effectively it uses these funds, should have been audited, but the head of the audit, again, who was elected, appointed not... elected, it is important to note, was appointed by the street bank several after an open appeal of ambassadors of the big seven should not be appointed, but a fair competition should be held, and who, according to informed sources, simply has one such important feature in her biography, or a strip of her biography, that she is in close relations with the president's family, and and and she. .. was appointed, and now she is saying that the accounting chamber cannot and will not audit, so it is clear that such things are simply unacceptable, imagine that you are biden, and you understand perfectly well what is going on here, and although our the accounting chamber did not work, i am sure that the american
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intelligence and the intelligence of other countries of the world know exactly what is happening in the situation, my acquaintances say that the same ones remained in the ministry of defense... and the bellies, colonels or generals, who sit on streams, and changing the minister of defense has little effect influenced, the schemes are practically preserved, and when all this is known, and when our president has been called so many times to remove the interference of his own office in the executive power, there are still no independent courts, because there is tatarov, some deputies have been dismissed, but these are not the deputies who would like to ... liberate both civil society and the west, in a word, when you set the bar so high, demanding that your allies fulfill their obligations, you must remember about yourself and the fact that with such tatars there, with such and such a ministry
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of defense, with such purchases, with such accounting chambers, we will not win the war either, when we make serious claims, glorify pro after delay. aid to our western partners, there to the united states, to other countries, it is very important to remember, not to forget and to pay attention to the fact that the structure of power that we have does not help us to conduct military operations successfully, sir oleg, look, well, then this means that we will walk in a certain vicious circle, so we will not do these or those personnel reshuffles, personnel decisions and implement those approaches that we would like to see in the white house, on the other hand, the americans will also look at this and say: "ay-yayyy, and all this will again, again, again twist the situation into a circle format , on which we will walk, the war continues, even in spite of..." certain optimistic signals, well , i would like to have a very specific certainty, because certain security agreements have been signed,
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the washington summit is approaching, at which a palliative decision will most likely be adopted, and but we understand that after the swiss summit will be followed by another chinese-brazilian-russian summit, well, i would add here after all in june, er, we are waiting, i think we are still waiting for the start of negotiations on acquiring membership. to the european union, all these things that we are talking about, this is not only the position of the americans, it is, in principle, the position of the european union as well. an independent court is a requirement of the european union and an obligation of the ukrainian authorities. effective governance is the same thing. that is , we will open now, if we start negotiations on acquiring membership, then we will we will face very clear tasks and with very strict monitoring, and it all came together. there is only one thing, that is why it will not be possible to separate the americans separately,
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the european union separately, and it will not be possible, on this formula, on this team of the president with five or six advisers, not only to enter the european union, but to move out of places, and therefore it will have to be changed, our government wants it, it doesn't want it, our president likes yermak infinitely, and yermak infinitely likes that. it is clear that we want to have support, it is quite logical and a justified demand from the european union and the west for certain changes and reforms in governance, and therefore the west will not give more than the minimum necessary money for a country that does not know how and does not want to govern properly, i am not saying that it will not give at all money, because it is clear that now the west ... has come to the logical conclusion that supporting ukraine is now better, cheaper and more effective from
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the point of view of the interests of the same europe than giving russia the opportunity to go to the border with the european union, and here here we have something in common interest in the european union, but at the same time, if you look very pragmatically at what is happening in ukraine, it becomes clear that with such leadership, with such management, with such a government... with such, with the lack of distribution of branches of power and the dependence of virtually all branches of government on a few people on bankova street, we will not get far, so the question here is that we cannot, and it is clear, zelensky said about this that we cannot win this war without the west, and the west is great understands that aid may be ineffective if not in ukraine there will be fundamental changes, so... changes are inevitable, if we talk about a set of changes that should be, yes, well, let's now
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detail what you specifically expected, for example, in the united states, the european union, yes, because, well, for most of our fellow citizens, it all remains a mystery, and certain things are evaluated purely through the prism of emotionality, that is, he said that, the reaction was like this, well, but people, well , sociology shows that people are not completely satisfied with the processes that are going on inland. and we understand that war - this is a key story, but there is also the economy, there is also energy, and it went away. well, people began to understand that power cannot be concentrated in the hands of the president , only that the number of ukrainians who think so has fallen several times, more and more ukrainians believe that the parliament should have much more powers, they believe that the government should to be effective, that is, ukrainians are beginning to understand... that the problem lies in the power structure that exists, when in fact all powers
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are concentrated in the president's office, and the president's office is just like this policeman the conductor on the street shows with a stick who is to blame for this or that failure, whether it is the parliament, the government, or the west, well, anyone, but not the government itself, ukrainians are beginning to understand this, and on the other hand, yes , if what to do with that... "if we can't hold elections now and what should be the future fate of this ukrainian structure of power, this also worries ukrainians, because here..." one of the analysts wrote about that putin can be in power there for another 10 years or more, and while he is in power, this war is profitable for him, because this war allows him to write off everything, blame everything on the world, which is against russia, on economic difficulties, on failures in domestic politics, war always gathers
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people around its leader, and therefore it is beneficial for putin, and he will be interested in so that it doesn't... and we want to end it, we want to end it with a victory, so we can't afford to just drag this process out forever, and under the current circumstances we don't have, we can't latch on to something that would give we are confident that we we can end this war there next year, it is expected that we can be ready for the next offensive, counteroffensive, we are waiting for aviation, for what will come after mobilization after all. the ukrainian army will receive enough manpower for training and rotation, we expect everything, everything, everything, but the size of our neighbor from chechavylo is not too disproportionate, and from the point of view of economic reserves there, they have these, as they said, they have these bombs , with which they make wings and
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throw, there will be enough for two or three wars, y they are there, they have been there since the time of... the second world war, even before that time they kept these bombs, they just recycle the wings, maybe half of them are defective, but they still kill ukrainians, that is why the russian state, it is ready to attack a longer distance, and here we can only oppose something modern, effective, we can do this only in a very honest alliance with the west and with america and with the european union, but what is happening in our country recently, it is not. .. contributes to the fact that we are better understood there and more supported. well, i don't know what the models are, what to do in the current situation, we understand that we have a legitimate government, that is, the president who was elected by the ukrainian people without falsifications, we are talking about zelenskyi. the russians want to undermine its legitimacy, that's understandable, we have a completely legitimate parliament, functional
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with a majority, well, the number of deputies has decreased, but we have a cabinet that was appointed by the legitimate parliament. but in fact we have a mixing of three branches of power, we understand that there is ours by the supreme constitutional courts, not everything is as stable as we would like, and accordingly something needs to be improved, we all like that ukrainians, everyone likes simple solutions, mr. oleg, let's now propose simple solutions, well , actually, we don't have an office of simple solutions worked, but the problem with us is precisely the structure of power that we have, when there are several people from the office of the president, whom we did not elect, whom no state security bureau or anti-corruption bureau will dare to approach, these people are actually are drawing up schemes, and ukrainian journalists are already talking about it, they are crying about the fact that officials on the ground, here i am now hearing about
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the kharkiv situation with the purchase of wood for defense structures, have chosen a kind of pilot... but this situation is repeated everywhere because that the law enforcement agencies depend on the same office of the president, because tatarov stands over them, and every security officer knows who tatarov is, it is practically impossible to break out of this circle, and if we want change, then we need to remove tatarov, and the president was told about this by a million times, need to do so that the office does not influence, i think the president will understand this. he won't be able to maneuver much there, because the european embassies, diplomats, they see it very well, they know it, the ukrainian press writes about it, the european press writes about it, journalists talk about it, investigations are underway, well, it becomes clear that we can't talk about it keep quiet, there is no way to explain why there is no change and this pressure is building, so i think
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the easiest conclusion for or the easiest way out of this situation is to remove this... the unlimited influence of the president's office on the executive power and on the security forces, and to make the courts more, i 'm not saying completely independent, at least more independent so that for them the call from bankova street does not interrupt all ukrainian legislation, because if there are no signs of that, that there are changes here, and this will be talked about and talked about, probably also by western companies that are trying to enter the ukrainian market, because no matter what we do? or the production of drones, or joint e-e productions in the defense sector, or investors, which we really need in order to to restore the energy system, it all rests on... guarantees of property rights, and what guarantees can there be if we do not have independent courts, there is no place for an investor to turn in the event of a conflict situation, so zelensky sooner or later will have to
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understand this, hear, and i am sure that even the all-powerful fair will not be able to block all communication channels, because the president communicates, including with the heads of western states, with representatives of the diplomatic corps, therefore... there is simply no other way out here, if it is not to change, then we can call simple solutions, super simple solutions, we can look for some people, but the situation will not change, because fundamentally , this slow-acting mine is embedded in it, which guarantees impunity for corrupt officials, if these officials are loyal and oriented towards what do they say on the mountain, and when we have a judicial system that looks into the mouth of the same tatar... and waits for instructions on how to act in this or that case, simply with such schedules the situation is deadlocked and there is no way out of it some simple solution, the simplest
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the easiest solution is to do what we have been advised for many years, to make the government much more independent from the banking street, to strengthen the parliament, giving the parliament the opportunity to influence the ministers, to listen to the reports of the ministers, but at the same time to try to explain... to potential candidates for ministerial positions, that they will be able to implement what they set out to do, and not simply wait with fear for a call from the phone on their desk, where the coat of arms of the soviet union used to be, now the coat of arms of ukraine is there, well, maybe those things will happen other simple men's meetings between the president of ukraine and the president of the united states, yes, biden will say, that's the idea we have to somehow resuscitate, refresh. government and so on, well, zelensky will say, very good, here is such an idea, well, here we go, what to build a government of national unity, well , invite representatives of the homeland
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of european solidarity, or what to do in such a situation, a government of technocrats, i don’t know, to pull out from some secret drawer our i don't know there graduate of advanced training courses named after george soros, yes, who can ride a scooter, remember, we had such a revolutionary prime minister. well, at least as a first step, maybe even some members of the current government, i just don't know all of them, could be much more effective if they really, if their fate really didn't depend on calls to these on these turntables , if they understood that they have to make decisions, maybe not popular, but they will feel able to implement these decisions and bear not only responsibility, but also support. before that, it is needed, right now there is no dialogue with the parliament at all, all these ties are broken, and even if at the same time i have no illusions about the quality of this parliament, but still there
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you can find a part of deputies who would also understand that they are responsible for something, there now journalists should be allowed to work in the parliament, there may be some partial resuscitation of this legislative body, which is very important, that is, it is necessary... even in these conditions at the expense of only what people can feel, and zelensky should do this, it is not there is more to do, because again , the meeting of zelenskyi with his own faction, where he does not let anyone open his mouth, but only reads morals, just angry deputies come out of it, and it all takes away motivation, well, just in general, here are all the units of the government machine, they all are just stuck, they don't work, they need to be started, because we can't elect a new president now. to elect a new verkhovna rada, to form a new government, means that under these conditions it is necessary to try as much as possible to reanimate some relationships, interaction between these
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authorities, because then everything will be better than it is now, because now everything has actually stopped, no one makes any decisions, and there a couple of advisers form the president's opinion about the real state of affairs, and the president has emotional breakdowns and explains to the leaders of the west. education, how should they do their work, and at the same time the president forgets that this includes his obligation to improve the work of the government machine in ukraine, not to lead, not to put his three or four five five at the head of the government machine to have advisers, and to make it real at least formally similar to how the government and parliament of european countries interact, and i am sure that this will be discussed during the start of negotiations on the acquisition of membership, god forbid... that these negotiations begin, because we have millions of questions there, but but it is only possible to move in this direction now. thank you very much, mr. olezh, for this meaningful and extremely interesting conversation
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, i want to remind our viewers that you are currently working for espresso oleg rybachuk, ex-vice prime minister for european integration, former head of president viktor yushchenko's secretariat, co-founder of chesno movement. thank you once again and kudos to ukraine. thank you, glory to the heroes, and we will win everything. well, the time of our program is over, stay with the espresso tv channel. my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of this day. see espresso, take care of yourself and your loved ones. see you on air. walk up the stairs, not with my knees, from pain in the knees, try dolgit cream. long-acting cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. with dolgit cream, you can even walk. dolgit - the only yellow cream for pain in the joints buy with a 15% discount. dolgit cream 100 g in pharmacies, antz pharmacy, kopyka pharmacy.
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to understand how our today will affect ours tomorrow, watch saturday politics club every saturday on espresso. it's 2 p.m. in ukraine, in iryna koval's studio, and i'm just now going to tell you about the most important events at this time. the ukrainian army counterattacked and retook several more quarters of vovchansk in kharkiv region. this is written by bild expert julian röbke. referring to open data analysis. in mid-may , russian troops occupied the northern part of the city and several central quarters. and that's it.

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