these are the things in these analogies, even if it sounds like it, it is not, in fact, i am very impressed that the ukrainian president was invited to this meeting, because what they are explaining are the same french, we traditionally have representatives of the anti-hitler coalition, that is, the soviet union, then of russia as a legal successor, but when we say that where there is liberation, there is personification. something bright that defeated evil, now ukraine has appeared in this place. the question is not that we were recognized as the legal successor of the soviet union, or that we replaced russia. no, we were recognized as those who are capable of protecting and sacrificing themselves for the sake of humanity, and not those who, in principle, just stir things up. that is, it is a very interesting story when hitler is compared now with putin and hitler, and that's it. when

they say the new nazism, in principle , putin is equal to hitler, and we understand that another half step and they will see stalin, sizimpi, sizimpin, it is wonderful, it is absolutely wonderful, we see that this kind of repetition is going on for many countries as well, such as france, it was a great shame for them when at the time of signing of this capitulation to hitler, there was the question of the french, we also lost to you, well , they say, with such contempt. like you, although we understand that from the beginning france was ambivalent in this war, and for the french it is very important now, because what macron is doing, he is correcting historical mistakes, well, how he positions it, they started calling hitler, putin hitler, and they finally recognized ukraine as a historically important country for the existence of europe and european values, and by the way, hitler also tried to correct the historical mistakes of the former. of the world

war and to wash away this shame, which he believed the germans had, but in this situation it is good that there were no russians at these anniversary events, although it is clear that russia aspires to be the successor of the soviet union, but no less ukrainians died and no less than four ukrainian fronts, two belorussian fronts, none russian, that's why the french are talking about it, now i'm following what they say, they are talking about this very thing everywhere. ukraine, four ukrainian fronts, ukraine has more right to be here in normandy. and we have maryna danyliuk yaermalayeva joins the conversation. marina, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. greetings, colleagues, glad to see you. i hope that you are light and everything, everything is fine, you have a connection, and a knock, let's knock on the table, and that everything will be during this broadcast, everything is fine. we are talking about today's speeches of zelensky in the french parliament. about how he

called on the europeans to fight, the french, rather, to work, to fight against nazism, which , according to him, is returning to europe again, or do europeans now listen to your opinion, ukraine and zelensky, in particular, and if we draw analogies that we have been hearing one way or another over the past two days, what period is europe in now? regarding ukraine? as you may have noticed, emmanuel macron, he used these celebrations for the 80th anniversary of the allied landings in normandy and the liberation of france to his advantage. and you know, when i was watching this live broadcast of samaha beach, i had the impression that it was not once the united allied forces liberated france, on the contrary, france is a super cool country, which was still worth fighting for and... that's why all

the allies decided to direct their forces to liberate france, it looked very beautiful against the background of how emmanuel macron demonstrated the power of his own defense, and there were planes flying over there in the background, all this showed, well, this was the advertising of the military-industrial complex for the whole world, so i can say here that emmanuel macron worked out his theme of advertising france by 100%, and that is very important, you know. just recently found a video, cut it out a piece of how emmanuel macron thanked the brave ukrainian people. at such celebrations, it sounded very good from the words of the french president, who claims to be the leader in europe, who is now already in his second presidency to strengthen the status of france in the european union. it seems to me that at a certain stage there, mr. president did not really understand that it was not specifically about him. about

the ukrainian people, but even more so, i was pleasantly surprised by this statement, plus macron made such a small side of the russian federation, he said there that there are certain countries. who also want to change the borders, that is , it was also a message to the russian federation, i can say that zelensky's speech before the french parliamentarians was quite coherent, he continued the topic that emmanuel macron started, so i have no complaints about the speech, but you know, what i noticed when they showed a close -up of the various delegations was that i would like our ukrainian delegation to be in nice suits too, and not in... these fleeces the color of olives, which are already a little bored. plus, let's be honest, this is still a historical event of 80 years since the landing of allied troops on the shores of normandy, and even i noticed there, veterans who were already 100 plus years old from different countries were sitting in the first rows,

and even these grandfathers and the grandmothers were in beautiful suits, yes civilian ones, or in uniforms, so i would like the ukrainian delegation to also... somehow dress more elegantly for such celebrations, marina, you mentioned that you greeted zelenskyi’s speech with applause in to the national assembly of france, i absolutely agree with you that the french applauded the courageous ukrainian people, because the ukrainian people are waging this bloody war and an unjust war against ukraine, and it literally appeared these days. logic regarding the trust, by the way, of zelenskyi, of ukrainians in president zelenskyi, according to the survey results of the kyiv international institute of sociology, the level of trust in president zelenskyi has been gradually decreasing since may 22nd, here we see this diagram,

and as of may 24th most of the year the opatanyi still trust the head of state, which is at the beginning of this schedule. full-scale invasion of the russian federation, confidence in zelensky was 90%, last december 77, in february 64, and now it is 59%, this is still a high level of confidence, larisa, almost 60%, does this mean that zelensky was and remains , well , a leader, after all, a political leader of the state. does the war affect this, or is it the level of trust in zelensky as a person who does the right things in ukraine? i think it's still the effect of the war, it, it obviously, when a person is in danger, which he cannot

cope with alone, he needs to trust someone, so a person needs to trust a doctor, because before that, while he is still more or less healthy, he can... judge on the internet and search she has a disease, and when she receives a fatal diagnosis, she simply trusts herself and everything, and is treated, these things are what is happening now in ukrainian society, so the fact that the level of trust is so high, for me it is positive, it says about society is aware of the danger, this is important, the second point, me, for example, i am against the publication in general, in general, of sociology during the war on such topics. because we know how sensitive the president himself is to his credibility, to his popularity, and that sometimes holds him back from making the important decisions that should and must be made in wartime that are unpopular, every time he sees that he has something falling somewhere,

then we see maryana bezovla lowered from the embers, who begins to look for enemies, then among generalship, then among the opposition, then somewhere else. that is, i am very worried that this information is still being collected at a time when there is no political process, and for what it is being collected, and how it will be used later, most likely, attempts to add populism , which is so dangerous for ukraine during the war. well, it’s obvious, it’s absolutely obvious that they, zelenskyi’s team, as television people, they focus on ratings, that is, those who work on television, vilersa and marina know for sure that every day we receive the ratings of our programs, we let's see what happened yesterday, what numbers we had, the right guests, the wrong guests, they spoke correctly, they spoke incorrectly, we should probably take someone else or, let's

say, strive for other ratings, but against this background there is another number, which it is also very interesting, despite this trust in zelenskyi 50... 5% of ukrainians have a negative assessment of the activities of the presidential party servant of the people, while most of them are very bad, this is again evidenced by the results of the kyiv international institute of sociology another 31% respondents have a neutral attitude towards the ruling party and only 9% of respondents are good or very good, although president zelenskyy is trying to somehow distance himself from this party, his party is a servant of the people, literally weeks, a few weeks ago, at a closed meeting, as if zelenskyy said that well listen, the servant of the people, you have a leader over there in the verkhovna rada, it is david rahami, and here we are... five or six managers, we manage the entire state, and the servants of the people are

the parish of david rahami and others leaders party, marina, in your opinion, do ukrainians have the understanding that the servant of the people is zelenskyi, well, this party has not changed, these are the people who, as they said, came to the parliament in 2019 and in ... government under one passport, volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi. and i want to say right away that i am against sociology, when some non-existent parties are measured there, yes, which have not yet been born in the embryo of the calf, its meat is already measured there, where it will go for sausage or, roasting, but this particular sociology was very useful, therefore that, as we could see, putin is very actively spinning the topic that zelensky is already illegitimate, with whom we should sign the peace treaty, that is, he is trying to find such strings to... wage war against ukraine, even when there will be some

cold period there , directly on the front line. but this sociology has recorded that people clearly understand what zelensky is as a symbol of the state, and they consider him legitimate until the first democratic post-war elections were held, but more and more zelensky is gathering negativity from his party as well, and from the style of his public administration, and this... the figure of the evaluation of the servants of the people, where people said that 55% believe that this party is generally clumsy and, well, incompetent, this is a diagnosis of the political power of the president, despite the fact that zelenskyi says that you have david rahamia there, i have no relation to you, this is absolutely untrue, because let's remember that most of those deputies who became deputies of the servant of the people faction would never have become deputies in their lives if it were not for the 2019 effect. year, if there was no prefix gave you extra points if you are even

some nameless person who has never appeared in the electoral district, so he will not be washed away from the negativity of the servants of the people, but this sociology, yes, it is very interesting because people associate zelensky, but not as a physical person, but as a symbol of statehood, the person we have to tolerate, as the person who should represent the ukrainian state, not all people agree with his actions, there is a very interesting dynamic, for example, as of may 2022, zelenskyi was supported 90%, then 77, february 24, when avdiyivka fell and this unethical outpouring of the 64-year-old took place, and now we see that 59% trust zelenskyi, then the dynamics are obvious, trust in... president zelenskyi will fall, but there will be a certain plateau, when people will think, well, it is not

perfect, but we need some symbol of statehood, until we have the first post-war elections, so we will endure, and of course in the same situation, i will mention one more figure from these sociological surveys, because it's very important actually, president zelensky said that his five years have not ended and he will not. sum up, but sociology still sums up and 50%, not 43%, of ukrainians believe that during the 5 years of volodymyr zelenskyi's presidency, the situation with democracy in ukraine has worsened, 28% of them are convinced that this happened because of the authorities' efforts to curtail rights and freedom of citizens, while 19% of ukrainians believe that the situation with democracy has improved, and 29 that it has not changed, i.e. 43% of ukrainians believe that the situation with democracy in ukraine has worsened over the past 5 years,

is this, larisa, or is this a consequence of this, her this monomajority, monopower, but without monoresponsibility? well, listen, when they talk about the rights and freedoms of citizens, i wonder what percentage of them mean the right to leave, that is, the impression that society ignores the fact of martial law, which in itself is a restriction. rights and freedoms of citizens, i was really struck by this combination of trust in the president and lack of trust in his political power, this once again shows that ukrainians still do not... understand the meaning of the parliament, but they can, that is, we, we all understand that the servant of the people party, it was created and brought to power in such a way that there would be no politicians, that there would be no political decisions within the party, exclusively the president, now the president is gradually losing influence over it and the opportunity to manage it and everything, and we, and we have an absolute collapse in the parliament, but this

is not a subject political party, and society, when it sees dissatisfaction with the work of a servant of the people party, is not identified with that the leader who brought it under his own responsibility, at the same time society demands some rights and freedoms, ignoring the fact of the war and the restriction of these rights and freedoms, because we are talking about the fact that we need to learn to live within the framework of the restriction of rights and freedoms, they were everywhere, they were in the same britain, they were in the united states, during the war, they are always there when it goes, but this does not reduce democracy, because democracy is not a crime. freedom, democracy is the right of the minority in the presence of the majority, it is the minority, we have an opposition that cannot fulfill its function, we have journalism that has been replaced by this marathon and telegram channels, we are talking about the fact that we have some

investigative journalism that is ignored as a fact, it is a minority of such people . there are such groups, but they should have the right, this is democracy, not the fact that people are now under curfew or are not allowed to go abroad. well, it seems to me that in the current situation, people still talk about democracy in the general context, because ukraine was and remains democratic state, it is clear that the right to freedom of speech, the right to freedom, we defended on three fronts, starting with the students. completing the revolution of dignity, and stand up, stand up now, hundreds of thousands of people are in the armed forces, and they stand up for the right to be and be heard, the right to be heard in ukraine, for the future of a free and democratic country. marino, how is it possible in the conditions of war, given

that war involves curtailment of rights and freedoms, as larisa says, still to... preserve democracy in conditions when we do not have choice, or there is no right to re-election, the right is there, but there is no possibility to hold elections to the verkhovna rada or presidential elections. i would distinguish here the curtailment of democratic rights and freedoms, yes, and some slight curtailment of them in the wartime regime. so, unfortunately, we very often see the curtailment of democratic rights and freedoms. why did this happen? the situation with the parliament, because look, always under any ukrainian president, be it petro poroshenko, be it yanukovych, be it others, the parliament acted as a balancer, and the parliament produced some healthy ideas, the parliament could oppose the government and oppose the president, and thus we had this council, our traditional historical system,

and it did not always allow us to make quick decisions there, but it was a balancer, yes... we have a huge crisis of public administration, there was such a nearby kmis survey, where people answered what they were most worried about, and there, for example, three positions at once in what worries people were occupied by the incompetence of people who represent the current government, corruption and lack of any political experience. we understand that we have entered such a phase of the war, when management power is very necessary, in... quality war management, plus a communication crisis, because, for example, we are losing something there, there are problems somewhere on some part of the front, we do not have they say, and then all this spills into very bad stories, and the crown of all these curtailments of democratic rights and freedoms was probably the situation with ukrinform, because it is an extremely very ugly story, when in 2024

year, in the era of ultra-fast internet, even with the lights off. journalists were sent memos where they were advised to shut the mouths of veterans who, for example, want to talk about the problems of rehabilitation and prosthetics, this is completely inappropriate, and those journalists who were present at the meeting with the j7 ambassadors at the time said that the j7 ambassadors were simply amazed , because they have not seen such know-how anywhere in the world, all this triggers people, because you have protected every right, every democratic freedom. not only for two maidans, and we also elect, by the way, ah, for all these 11 years of war, so i would not like some not-so-decent characters who, on the hype of 2019... there accidentally became deputies, and now all this is curtailed , because it was fought with the strength and blood of many people. thank you, marina. larisa, what safeguards are there, which allow us to say

that here we are, we will not allow the temniks to return again, we will not allow the public to be destroyed, we will not allow there to be a limitation of three tv channels, which are already limited to a third a year do not go to t2, absolutely volunteers. channel five direct and espresso, in the absence of elections, in the absence of elections and in the state of war in which we are now, how to protect democracy? well, the fact is that elections do not help much in this matter, because the voter goes to the polling stations and chooses someone who, as a pre-election promise, sews not the protection of freedom of speech and something else, but there, for example, a... a we will plant, or we will do them all together, well, that’s not it, it’s not the principles, it’s not the values ​​for which, that’s why here the question is that when we say

"dark people" in ukrinform - this is specifics, when we say an attack on society and the dismantling of this public television as a phenomenon, turning it into a state platform, this is specifics, and the people we see are incompetence, corruption , this is what, this? exactly where are they, what do they mean, the incompetence of those who make decisions, exactly who, you don't like yermak, so let's say it like that, we don't like that the office of the president was taken over by an unconstitutional body there powers, okay, but we, we are always not about the specifics, and when the elections start, the specifics are even less, this is the problem, because the ukrainian voter should protect the values ​​and should protect the principles of democracy, and these... principles are clear, they are clearly defined, and you cannot make a mistake when you see that the government, in the state leadership form, are handing out temaniks, you understand, this is a violation of freedom of speech, you, as a citizen

of a democratic state, cannot tolerate this, and it is more important than some abstract corruption, about which you never i saw, you see a corrupt person, you have to seek and monitor that he is imprisoned, but abstract corruption is nothing, well, maybe i want to. after all, there is corruption, the corruption law, for example, and we can demand that it be changed, but in the abstract , some kind of corruption where it is unknown, who is unknown where, it is not about anything, you know that, there are many anti-corruption investigations that give clear answers, who steals , as a thief, there are anti-corruption bodies, unfortunately, this legislation was adopted in 2016, perhaps it is not currently applied as i would like to, because i remember, and marina was definitely keeping track. in the parliament, when anti-corruption legislation was adopted and they said that this anti-corruption legislation is the best in europe, there is no better one in the world, well, that was just

recently, as kuchma said, well, that’s it, that’s all already happened, that’s how it is , but you consider that 2016 is a slightly different challenge, it is not the challenge of wartime, when there are a number of temptations, i highly recommend paying attention to our colleague yuriy nikolov, who carefully with facts... figures investigates corruption cases, for example, he recently mentioned a very interesting figure that in 2020-2021 , every tenth hryvnia in the budget was spent on the construction of rivers, so there is something to ask about, and here we are not talking about abstract corruption, but about corruption with with clear names and positions, yuriy nikolov names them very clearly, i strongly advise you to look at what he is talking about there, exactly which ones... side of journalists, journalists, especially men, then it is customary

to call them dodgers, if you are an investigator, a journalist, then you will definitely be called a woman of low social responsibility there and they will talk about some far-fetched romances there, so this is also a very unhealthy story, and our western partners are like that. and when we read any document, by the way, there regarding our accession to the european union, it is written everywhere, no pressure to fail, freedom of speech, and then we will talk, friends, what to do with you next. thank you, maryna, i will remind you to our viewers that we are live and conducting a poll today, we are asking you if you are ready for long blackouts, yes no, if you watch us on youtube, please vote or yes. or not, leave your comment below this video if you are watching us on tv pick up your smartphone or phone and vote 0800 211 381 if you are prepared for long blackouts no

0.8 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free . one more quick topic that i hope we'll cover very quickly, this is putin, he spoke again at this so-called economic forum in st. petersburg about the so-called usurpation of power, which began in 2014, that is, this delusion is carried by the kremlin grandfather quite often, while the russian dictator called the statements about what the russian federation wants delusional. .. to attack nato, let's see, let's listen to how he generally speaks about europe, about europeans and about how they behave in relation to russia? they did not invent that russia wants to attack nato, you are completely out of your mind, you are as stupid as this table. who is this invented it, it's stupid. this is delusional. we protect ourselves in ukraine. we don't have imperial

ambitions, believe me, it's all delusional, as well as the threat from russia to nato countries and europe, what do you do, look at the potential of nato, look at the potential of russia, why did you decide that we are crazy or something? this combination of two phrases is very interesting: we defend ourselves in ukraine, and we have no imperial ambitions, believe me, larisa, will europe believe putin? well, from the point of view of psychology, when a person says believe, then he is lying in general, and there, there, he said a little further, what about russian, in general, russian bombs are tactical, they are three times stronger than others and even kilotons, and if it goes somewhere in europe, then let them think for themselves, that is , he simply contradicted himself, and there is an important point here, that he really appeals to

faith, because... in this way he tries to refute the facts, the facts of aggression, the facts of an attack, including a hybrid attack, a sabotage attack, a cyber attack on countries, on the countries of the european union and nato countries, so in this case it is an exclusive appeal trust, that is why he eliminates these contradictions in his own speech, it looks like madness, thank you, marina, how do you perceive this. it is clear that putin, well, he lies by default, that is, before the attack on ukraine, he said, we will not attack, we will not go to ukraine, lavrov said: "no, no, we, we will not do this, or europe should understand that when they say that they are as stupid as a table, or what he said there, let's compare them, does this mean a signal to europe that he will go there? of course,

if putin, and any russian official says that we have no intention of attacking anyone, we are the most peaceful country in the world, this means that we need to prepare. it seems to me that the best of all these words of putin is refuted by the recent publication for a short period of time of very interesting documents on the website of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, where they announced that they are unilaterally changing a number of maritime borders with the baltic countries with finland, and this very document, they then very quickly hid many neighbors from northern europe and the baltics of the russian federation look at your security from a different point of view. and here was a very interesting statement by the head of the armed forces of sweden, who said: "these, well, we have read these documents, and we understand that the russian federation is sleeping and sees how to capture our island of gotland." and let me remind you,

literally a month and a half before... the full-scale invasion, the russian federation apparently believed that ukraine would fall in three days. they had a very clear plan, they voiced it on 60 minutes about how they would then land on gotland, come on guys nato and seize the baltic states. thank you, lord, our friends have made up their minds and are very actively preparing for a full- scale invasion. that is, they drew conclusions from those conclusions. m, how was ukraine, unfortunately, not prepared on the eve of the 22nd year? thank you, marina, larisa, maybe he is playing the role of a madman? i mean putin? he does play this role, but he plays it very well, well, this is game theory, there is even a game of madman that gives its profits. we have to notice that what is madness is the contradictions that the psyche is not aware of. a healthy psyche is always aware of contradictions,

and here he is in this speech, where he... says, you are crazy, he gives himself at the same time.