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the results are already emerging, at least the exit polls give some information about the fact that the representation of the power movements will prevail in the european parliament, because the fizo party can win five mandates, three of its allies from pellegrini are also claiming it now, that's the story, in general 15 slovakia has mandates, they are also voting in the young belgorod people's republic, and there exactly minus the composition of the bc, a large number of voters are watching how the holy heymars arrived, it's right here... these minutes, well, here we go, further on the air of the tv channel, the project is about politics, about the world, watch it, it will be interesting, it is about politics, it is about politics, about the world, we are talking with the head of the committee on foreign affairs of the polish diet and the head of the council for cooperation with ukraine pawel koval, i congratulate you, i maria gurska, journalist.
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ukrainian tv channel espresso and editor-in-chief of the sister website. the key news from poland this week is the launch of the eastern shield state defense program. details of what the biggest operation will look like with strengthening nato's eastern flank since 1945 , was presented on monday at the ministry of national defense of poland. let's try to analyze the key goals of launching the eastern shield and what poland is preparing for. this is primarily border protection, it is important because belarus actually functions as a part of russia. i have always said this, that is , i have said all the time during the last months that there is no point in building illusions. belarus uses refugees as a specific weapon in a hybrid war with poland. it pushes people together, creates a sense of threat and potential provokes various conflicts. it is, unfortunately, that is why it is direct border protection, full protection. the border now, but also in
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the future in the event of an attack, because it is actually a potential attack. the project is being built in case a conflict breaks out. today, the main thing that citizens expect from us is security. so, on the one hand, we care about ukraine, we give it all possible support when it comes to defense, but as for the border with belarus and russia, it needs to be strengthened and our forces concentrated so that people feel yourself safe. the pln 10 billion program with several 700 km long defense lanes, reinforced concrete hedgehogs, minefields, hiding places, bunkers, swamps and forests has already been called the modern polish mazzyno line, although in reality it is something much larger, as it includes both electronic equipment and systems drones, etc. and whatever is possible, the fact is that the borders must be protected. according to what
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the specific situation dictates to us. a year ago i was on holiday in finland to see how they protect the borders and i saw how he unsuccessfully combine natural and technical barriers, because sometimes there must be a physical barrier to use what nature itself gives. swamps are ideal in this regard, but in addition to them, electronic means, the most modern and effective, are needed. everything together gives an effect, for us this is the key. it is very interesting. this means that the eastern shield, this polish line of defense, correlates and fits into the european defense system that other countries are currently building. i think that all these elements will be elements of the protection of the eastern border.
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but the very decision that this is happening the very start of the project is already a clear signal to our colleagues, say, in quotation marks in russia. they should hear that we are ready to produce weapons and defense. no attack is needed, it will work preemptively because people will feel safe. please look at what is happening on the internet today, in connection with the operation in kharkiv, we are dealing with an unprecedented online attack on the west, on ukraine, when russian trolls are explaining to people that the west cannot cope. the answer
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is: we are capable of producing weapons, we are capable of protecting the border, we can do it, we are not let's scare our citizens. recently, kharkiv suffered terrible russian missile attacks. it is known that as a result of the attack on the hardware store, 19 people died, more than fifty were injured, it is impossible to watch these videos with a calm heart, without tears to look at the footage of the attack or how children are looking for their parents, mothers of sons, and a little boy is taking a dna test. to find his father's body.
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it's both a technical and a political decision, i think in the coming weeks various options will be considered, i've just come back straight from berlin, i see that there is an awareness that what is happening in kharkiv can affect the fate of the entire war, that new measures, new methods of protecting ukraine and supporting ukraine must be used. whether it is possible to close the sky today from a technical and political point of view, i do not know, but in this war it also happens that there are many answers. which we were looking for seemed impossible at first, but already in two or three months turned out to be quite real. i treat it as a decision of the military, it is up to them to decide which solution is real today, how it can be done perform, because it is necessary not only to declare it, but also to implement it. the minister
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of foreign affairs of poland, radoslaw sikorski , announced the introduction of restrictions on the movement of russian diplomats within the country. that the government has evidence of russia's involvement in sabotage inside poland, writes about a series of sabotage across europe according to the new york times, emphasizing that together with a series of arson attacks in poland, they make up the elements of a complex special operation game, the purpose of which is to intimidate european citizens to reduce support for ukraine. what is this known? we continue to talk about the fact that the key is russian.
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i say this frankly, i have long believed that they do nothing good for diplomats, they simply inflame passions, and minister sikorskyi's decision is obvious. what the investigation says about a series of arsons in poland, which the new york times says are part of a russian campaign of intimidation in europe. i can't say anything more about this, it's not a topic i'm ready to comment on in detail. what are we waiting for the results of the investigation? to all such things, viz arson, found incendiary elements, poland takes extremely seriously. we live in a new world, a world where there is no sense of security like two, four or five years ago, today the services take it all very seriously. each of these cases is subject to investigation, thorough
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research and verification of where they come from. personally, i am convinced that we have an exceptionally high intensity of propaganda and propaganda-subversive actions on the part of russia, because russia... i would like to get such an advantage to conquer ukraine this year in in the course of certain peace negotiations, but on russian terms. our interest is to achieve peace, but according to just principles. this means that ukraine must have a clear, good position at the front, it must be able to defend itself, and it is our duty to help in this. you communicate a lot, talk to people, how this russian campaign of intimidation is affecting ordinary poles, is it having an effect. i think we need to distinguish between two phenomena: fear and anxiety, fear is actually good because fear is our emotional feelings, but are based on rational, real premises and the experience of history, we see what
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the russians are doing and know what they can do next, because we have the experience of history, while anxiety is an emotional feeling that is probably less conscious, that is, based more on a certain kind of helplessness. now let's deal with fear for a moment. what can be done with fear? fear can be turned into something positive, which means that we will develop civil defense in ... let's be honest, hardly anyone thought about it over the last 30 years, fear is also the basis for informing the public about where the nearest shelter is, building shelters and preparing people to evacuate, not because there will be an evacuation, but so that everyone knows what to do, as is practiced around the world in countries, who are in such a situation as poland, we must wake up, we have been in a situation similar to the situation in israel for many years, this means that we need to...
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and you can interpret this feeling as fear and actually do something positive. we are at the beginning serious thinking about security, these are also the consequences of this war. i am a proponent of safety training and preparing people to respond.
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right before the war, at the end of the 21st, at the beginning of the 22nd, some people thought, why this media campaign, why talk about it on tv at all, i was then hosting these programs on espresso. we were sitting in the studio and some experts said: don't scare people, people have enough problems, let them focus on something more pleasant than thinking about what to put in the anxiety suitcase, and how quickly we needed these suitcases. i also think that when people are taught in a timely manner how to pack anxiety bags, it can take away the prospect of
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ever needing those bags at all. personally, i had such a suitcase filled with everything i needed. in my opinion, it is necessary to admit that times have changed, it is necessary to learn to distinguish anxiety from fear, not to be afraid of fear, just to use it to win, because the russians are sure to appreciate it. polish military and their colleagues from... the baltic states may appear in ukraine if russia breaks through front. this information is reported by the german media. spiegel cites statements made during a security conference in estonia. according to the publication, if the russians manage to make a strategic breakthrough in the east of ukraine, the baltic states and poland will not wait for the russians to appear on their borders, and will send their armies to ukraine themselves. what can be said about this new dimension in the discussion about the introduction of troops of european countries into ukraine. which no one
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has confirmed and maybe in detail it is not exactly the same, but it shows how it has changed atmosphere, because it has already been officially announced that france has sent its instructors to ukraine, so this information is not confirmed, but it indicates the context, it is quite possible that someone talked to someone like that, but it is certainly not a fact, no politician will say, that this is a fact. poland does not plan to send troops into ukraine today, and the prime minister clearly denied this, but this does not change the way we think about it and the way we talk about it in europe today, why do they say that, because finally everyone noticed, that the security of ukraine is not separate, common with ours, so if we don't take care of ukraine's security, we will have problems ourselves, and that's good, this aspect, in my opinion, is good, everyone is starting to think that it's not only ukraine, it's us. the head of the polish foreign ministry
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, radosław sikorski, said in london that ukraine has the right to attack strategic targets inside russia. on may 27, this opinion was repeated by nato secretary jen stoltenberg in bulgaria, but italian prime minister george maloney and german chancellor olaf scholz disagreed, why are the positions so different on this issue and what are the prospects for understanding. i have been telling german politicians for many months that this war cannot be waged without the ability to express strategic objectives. of the ukrainian sky, it is obvious that it is necessary to finish the naval service of the ukrainian side. isn't it impossible for you to conduct it without combat aviation from an academy or another military university? for this you just need to start thinking. if we want to reduce the costs of this war, we must help ukraine. aid to ukraine can be
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translated into specifics, that is, by providing good ammunition, but also by providing planes and providing missiles that can... russia is threatening nuclear weapons in response to
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this discussion, and you know, i'll tell you a little bit of my own life about my conversations with my father, my dad is in kyiv now, we call on the weekend, we discuss the news and recently my father says: have you heard what our guys say, sikorsky speaks on behalf of the americans, he says that if russia strikes, it will receive such a blow that it will end. this story is such an illustration of modern polish-ukrainian relations. and, by the way, this is also about what ukrainians recognize sikorsky's own. like pavel koval, by the way, because hundreds of thousands of ukrainians watch this... what can we add to this discussion, if we are serious about nuclear blackmail from russia. and when this did not happen, there is nothing new here. we must also learn to live with russian nuclear threats. the only paradox of these threats to russia is that they can threaten only once, that is,
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they can implement their threats only once. you can blackmail only if you threaten, and therefore they will not do it, but will continue to threaten. how quickly can a decision be made at the event? it is clear that this was a mistake at the end of the 22nd year, after the withdrawal of the russians from kherson, then they also started to scare again, they scare when they are afraid, when they feel that the end is near, let's not have any illusions, if there are these conversations, it means , that their agents from various parts of western europe know that european politicians have begun to think seriously, because everyone thinks logically, i mean that... there is no point in endlessly supplying ammunition to the front, if the enemy has the ability to manufacture it, one must to hit production sites and it looks like russia is slowly beginning to understand that there is a breakthrough in the west, so they are starting to threaten, because if threats start, it is not a sign of strength, but of weakness, but they have been doing it since they got nuclear weapons , that's what the soviets did, that's what
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putin's russia is doing. time must always be added to this calculation, and therefore in the case of taurus and other rockets and similar parameters
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, time must be added, i do not want you to think that i speak about this so calmly that it is possible chancellor will make a decision in a few months, i am not calm. but what can a politician do, i started talking about it at the end of last year, as well as other polish politicians, prime minister tutsk is speaking, foreign minister sikorski is speaking, many diplomats are traveling and saying that it must be done here and now, and nevertheless, something always fails, but every time it eventually works out, and in this case it will work out, we wait and push. elections to the european parliament will be held on june 6-9. marine le pen, matteo salvini, sara wagenkneft and other politicians from all over europe. what will this european parliament be like,
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how big is the risk of a significant advantage of far-right forces, and what would this mean for europe, poland and ukraine? there is no such threat, they do not get more. i think i know these mechanisms well .
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time... it's about the forest industry, now the chinese say: we will not buy your pellets until you stop, resume exports unprocessed hay, what is it for russia it is not good, because in fact, due to sanctions and due to the conditions created by the european union and the countries of the west, in fact china remains the only such legal market, that is why they dictate their conditions, i can already say that the prices are now. gas is demanded to be reduced to the intra-market gas in russia, so what will happen next, uh, and i am watching the development of the situation in russia, there are more and more videos from the young independent republic of belgorod, which is constantly being bombed by the russian federation, now someone else has bombed, let mars work , judging from after the subsequent detonation, in one of the villages of the belgorod region, a bc is burning, it was...
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an ammunition warehouse, and what is unexpected is that it was on e, a drone was flying over the village, there is a mobile phone communication tower, now on this communication tower there is a ukrainian flag , how a flag was raised from a drone, this is jewelry work, things like that, things like that, successes on the battlefield, this is exactly what can incline russia to negotiations, but diplomatic dialogue is also important, one of them will take place in switzerland at the peace summit, about preparations and... expectations from this summit, we look at our plot. bürgenstock is one of the most picturesque swiss mountains near lake lucerne. magnificent views, fresh alpine air and a very expensive resort hotel, which has more than once become a negotiating platform for resolving conflicts. the global peace summit will be held here next weekend. this is a ukrainian initiative that was born in the fall of 2022.
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then during the g20 summit. in indonesia, president zelensky presented his peace formula: 10 points to end the war. the key one of them - russia should withdraw its troops from all ukrainian territories, including crimea and donbas. in fact, this is the formula for ukrainian victory. and for a year and a half , ukraine has been trying to enlist the support of the world in its implementation. the west generally recognized zelensky's plan as the only fair way to end the war. but with the countries of the global south, everything is much more difficult. to the latter, kyiv hoped that china would join the meeting in the swiss alps, because it is almost the only country that has influence on putin. however, two weeks before the meeting, beijing refused to take part in it participation. arrangements for a meeting in switzerland are still in progress.

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