news time on the spresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all the viewers and i will just now tell you about the most important events. it is loud again in the belohorod region of russia. local mass media report on the hit in the raketian district. footage of the fire, which continues along with the detonation, is also published. it was likely that it got into the ammunition warehouse. meanwhile , the governor of the region wrote on his telegram channel that non-residential buildings are on fire in the raketian district. premises, but despite the seeming

non-seriousness of the fire, the authorities started evacuation of residents of surrounding buildings. the main intelligence agency confirmed the damage to the su-57 plane, which was attacked by drones at the akhtyubinsk airfield. in the astrakhan region. satellite images show the eruption from the explosion and traces of the fire. 157 - the newest fighter of the invaders, which launches kh-59 and kh-69 missiles over ukraine. according to the dfn express agency, the russians have approximately 10 such aircraft. captivity kills. in kyiv, near the lukyanivska metro station , an action was held in support of prisoners of war and missing persons.

the organizers of the peaceful picket of the families of soldiers of the mariupil garrison. several hundred caring citizens came to remember the ukrainian defenders and support their families. similar actions take place every sunday in the capital and other cities of ukraine. we go to these actions every week, every sunday, it should be a signal to the whole world that our people have been in captivity for more than two years, and we must make every effort to bring them home. 23 people died in ukrainian reservoirs only in the last week, among them four children - reports the state service of emergency situations, and since the beginning of the year there have already been 414 deaths, including 26 minors. the rescuers noted that the tragic consequences occurred due to the disregard of safety rules. and

about deadly tourism in the carpathians , the bodies of two people were found, one man without signs of life was noticed by a local resident on the slope of the mountain pip ivan marmarozky, which is not far from the romanian border. a day earlier, rescuers came across another dead tourist in the area of ​​mount rebra. as the state service for emergency situations said, it turned out to be him 54-year-old kyivan. what caused the death of people and the circumstances of the events are clear. explosion in the new post office. in lutsk, a man ordered three pyrotechnic training grenades via the internet, local media reported. he decided to inspect the received parcel on the spot, but accidentally pulled out the receipt of one of the grenades and it exploded. the man required medical assistance, the post office staff was not injured. in mexico at night. club's

glass balcony collapsed with people, two people died and 15 others were injured, local rescue services reported. the incident happened in a bar located in the shopping and entertainment center of the city of san luis potosi. visitors came there for a concert. the glass railings of the balcony could not withstand the load and suddenly collapsed. people fell from a height of about 6 m. as the law enforcement officers found out, the club did not have a work permit. in the mall the czech republic will train 4,000 ukrainian armed forces on its territory. defense minister yana chernokhova told journalists about this in an interview. she noted that given the geographical proximity of the two countries, there is no need to send czech instructors to ukraine. she also added that the implementation of the training plan will depend on the pace of mobilization of ukrainians. already for our defenders in the czech republic. training

facilities and trainers were prepared. i spin the pedals so that they live. in lviv, they organized the seventh charity bike ride. fund zaporuk and arsen mirzoyan. everything to collect uah 1 million for the needs of children with cancer. did you achieve the goal? see further in our material. despite the rain, over 100 participants joined the bike ride to show their support small patients of the west ukrainian specialized. medical center. such an event has been organized since 2016, it was not held only during covid and the first year of a full-scale invasion. over six years , the organizers and participants managed to collect more than uah 3 million for the needs of children with cancer. this year, we plan to collect one million hryvnias

for the reconstruction of the reception department, namely, we want to create a specialized manipulation room with the possibility of surgical intervention, where children actually just come from the emergency room and need... them take a quick look to avoid further complications, and participation costs this year the usual 300 hryvnias, discounted for veterans or student combatants 150 hryvnias, and today the weather is not great, but we are still all in a good mood, we are really looking forward to the participants, and they fit, which is really pleasing. not for the first time, 14-year-old natalya, who overcame cancer more than 10 years ago, is among the organizers of the event. now she is. supports young patients of the cancer center, inspires them with their own story of victory over the patient. it is extremely important to help cancer patients children, because support is extremely important, it is extremely important to show that cancer is not a sentence, cancer is curable, and

you should not lose heart, you should never give up, but you should always go for your goal, always, always everything will be fine, because life after cancer continues for... part of the participants, such a bike race has already become a traditional and family event, i participate with children, because we believe that it is necessary to teach children and society in general to help each other and support each other and taking part in such events, given that they are already being created, is very important, accordingly i teach this to the children and take part myself in... driving, i have been at every event since i was six or seven years old, and why is it important, actually. the essence of the bike ride is that the participants give money so that children with cancer can

be cured. actually, every year we have various needs. and arsen mirzuyan participates every year. ukrainian singing. arsen mirzoyan already joined the bicycle race at the age of seven, children with cancer, as he says performer, need special support and help during the war, because it has become more difficult to collect money and cover the needs of medical institutions. since the 16th year, we have introduced this tradition, well, who remembers, it used to be a charity lot, bike rides with rosel mezhzayan, it was won by olena zablotska, and we decided to do it traditionally in lviv. such a bicycle traffic jam for the needs of the chernobyl hospital, a child of metallurgy. tradition is alive, tradition must be maintained under any circumstances, under any conditions. those who do not have bicycles also joined the event. they bought sweets at the fair and participated in

a charity lottery, and the goal of 1 million uah was achieved, part of the required amount for the cancer center was allocated from the city budget of lviv. ema stadnyk, volodymyr studenny, tv channel. espresso such were the news at that time. see you at 6 p.m. congratulations. good evening. i'm myroslava barchuk and this is the "own names" program. joint project. ukrainian foam and espresso tv channel. a few days ago, or a few weeks ago, actually, we talked with you about reading during the war, about what we read, about what literary podcasts were born en masse during a full-scale war. and today i want

to talk about how to write during the war, how writers write during the war, how the war changes the social role and social significance of the writer, and how ukrainian writers. become de facto cultural diplomats in the west. my guest writer. hello sofia, thank you for coming. today sofia andruhovych, ukrainian thank you very much myroslav for the invitation. and we will talk with you about your books, and we will delay the intrigue, we will tell the most interesting things at the end, but i want to start with your first essay, you said somewhere that your first essay, when the full-scale invasion began, was called i was told by many writers, many people quoted theodor dorno, the german philosopher who after the second world war said that... poems after auschwitz are barbarism, that literature and culture turned out to be powerless,

neutral against the background of the catastrophe that was taking place, so, do you have it too, or did you survive? is this a feeling of powerlessness of words and powerlessness of culture? experienced, like many people who work with language and deal with texts, and just this, especially this first period, when it started, it started full. a large-scale invasion, uh, i think that then, in general, when i think back now, how it all happened, uh, we all kind of went crazy and we were just in some very unnatural state, such an unnaturalness that was very natural in view on these terrible circumstances, and simply the very first time, it was generally incompatible with something like text. and even a reflection, and that first text that you mentioned, it was an attempt

to somehow find the possibility to put words together again, and this attempt, it also did not come from me, because i think it was a month exactly, maybe longer before the moment when i managed to write this text, but it was already april, right? yes yes. besides, i didn't see such an opportunity at all, i was doing something so strange, we were in ivano-frankivsk, where i was born, we left kyiv there, and the only thing i came up with that i can do now is to invite people, who would want us to do yoga together, i remember it now, it seems so absurd, but it meant so much more to me. than writing, but fortunately there were a lot of invitations and offers from

various western publications, and at some point i responded to them, and this first attempt, as well as the subsequent texts that i wrote, appeared thanks to this interest of the west, their interest in what is happening in our country, to hear our voices, i just remember. as far as that first text was written painfully, terribly through such a terrible frustration, just like, i think, something like that goes through a person who has lost the ability to feel his body and his limbs and cannot walk, and here is learning again to feel these muscles and these bones and take these steps, it was very similar, meaning it was actually the opposite of what it said. because we are now demonstrating, our writers, our authors are demonstrating that, in fact, with texts

, we are the ones who tell people in the west, so, what is happening, as if there is a great sense in this, i i think that adorno simply said it from some other position, that is, from the position of a sense of guilt, from the position of a person who represents his other culture, and the culture of observers and those involved in the crime in one way or another. and in our case it is a completely different point of view, and here the effort is precisely to tell and to find this voice and this intonation and these topics with which we can tell about ourselves and remind, you know, i remembered the words of tanya malyarchuk just now , a wonderful writer who says that she lives in austria, she lives in austria, and she says that letter... and culture turned out to be such a blooming tree under which a person can be raped, and

the flower just blooms, the tree blooms and, but now it turned out that the tree can testify, yes, that is, this beauty can testify and speak, i know that you not only write a lot, but you travel and travel a lot, and you just came back from ireland from a literary festival, i love you so much... now asking about how you speak at the event and what is the most difficult for you, yes, but first so what feelings and impressions did you come back from ireland with now? uh, honestly saying, these trips in general, they don't come easily to me, i understand that of course, what are we compared to, and as far as i understand, how lucky i am and so on, but, i mean, in most cases, if i had a choice , i would probably give

them up, because every time i also can't wait to get home, some magnet pulls me all the time. and i want to be here, and when i 'm not there, i feel like i'm just missing something very important, but you started with the fact that the roles of writers have changed, and that just about this, about some sense of responsibility, which i had never before imagined that it could arise in me, and i would not be able to resist it in any way, just some much more powerful force and incentive than some... my own personal motivations, it is simply impossible to say no to these incentives and this meaning, but when we talk about this trip of mine to ireland, it turned out to be another amazing gift, because it was really a very nice and pleasant trip,

and probably this is primarily due to . with people from by some special openness of the irish people whom i met there, with whom i communicated, who listened to me and asked questions, and simply this feeling compared to other people there from different countries, it seems to me that the irish have such a specific feature, this the ability and just love to listen very carefully to people who are... to tell, they are very interesting people, and in principle, this is mostly the case when you meet with readers or with people who attend cultural events in different countries, if a person is interested in this, then probably she will be to listen carefully, but among the irish i felt some special empathy and constant tears in

my eyes and just some kind of very human warm attitude, probably this is also... uh, it is connected with their personal historical experience, with something, with some gestalts , which remained open for them, with some topics that they could not work out or deal with them in the way that we do now, and that is, it is a kind of mixture, probably recognition, of the similar situation of the country that was colonized, and ee. .. struggle with the empire, and at the same time some processes that, after all, turned out to be inaccessible and unknown, i want to say that sofia and i recently went to chernihiv oblast on a pen trip, and

the wonderful irish author greg diener traveled with us, and actually there was a lot of such attentiveness, warmth in him, and it was a wonderful trip, and in particular, he created this atmosphere, precisely by his kind of inclusiveness and attentiveness to everything we said, and we had many meetings, and the greek, not knowing the ukrainian language, somehow understood most of us, so from our conversations in the communities, in libraries and so on, here you can just have such a feature with greg, he is not actually irish, he is not connected to ireland in any way except. except that his wife is irish, yeah, but there's a very interesting thing about him, he was born in america in the united states of america in colorado, but all his grandparents and relatives, and even on his stepfather's line, are jews who come from of central europe, most likely from the territory of ukraine, and this is also, i

think, not even fully conscious. that is, the greek is aware of this history, but it is something a magnet, obviously, which also attracts him here. it’s interesting, you see, i didn’t notice this during the trip, it means that he was more attentive to us than i was to him, but please tell me, if you are talking about the irish, then obviously there are others, in other countries, there are others you have the impression that someone there well said that each country does not understand ukraine in its own way. yes, germany has, yes, the germans have a guilt complex, there, let's say, if we are talking about switzerland, there is some idea of ​​neutrality, what is it, what is the most difficult for you in these trips? which your most difficult memories and impressions? well , perhaps the most difficult thing for me is when

it comes to russian culture and all our favorite things, that is, in other aspects, there is a feeling that people are listening and discovering something new for themselves, and they care, and they agree, and they start... . to see the situation in a new way, but in this matter, they remain with their point of view, with their love and admiration for russian culture, and with their conviction that we are wrong when we refuse to meet with liberals by russians, that we are too radical and, uh, and that the culture is innocent, yes. culture is innocent, and on the contrary, culture is a means of understanding, and we have to somehow conduct this conversation, and this

is the most painful, because i already know how many different means have been spent by my colleagues, our friends, ukrainian writers and intellectuals to explain this thing. but there is very little success with this, although there are also such absolute sympathizers of ukraine who are very understanding and who care about it, you know, i think now i i recently re-read the book ave europe by oksana pakhlivska, and it was still in the early 90s, and already in the early 90s she formulated a very important opinion that now ukraine should... make colossal efforts to promote its culture, to create a ukrainian institute , create some it. for 30 years, no one has reacted to this, yes, yes, we present our culture somewhere in embassies in

the corners of ukraine, yes, towels, varenyki, parajanov’s film, which is constantly shown everywhere, and here i have a question, are there not too many of us, or our claim, so to to western people is not excessive because yes, that is actually what i am thinking too. and how i feel about it, because really, for obvious reasons, we are too radical and sometimes we want a little too much from people from the west, because we are the same, you work with these themes when making your film, and therefore you understand it all the more , that to what extent people in ukraine are just now uh... somehow they are beginning to collect these understandings about themselves, about their history, about identity, about why they speak the language

they speak, why they, for example , do not know what happened to their grandparents, or somehow they avoid, avoided thinking about it until recently, that is, if for many ukrainians until recently it was something unimportant, uninteresting, unnecessary, simply somehow displaced and was a kind of white spot, which even now begins to fill up rapidly, i hope, so how can we expect from someone else, someone from the outside, that they should understand us and know who we are, if we ourselves have not had enough voices and enough power of this statement to talk about it tell. well, plus, plus this colossal handicap that russia has, of course, that they have been constantly engaged in this for several centuries, constantly

voiced their history, their point of view, constantly put it all on the shelves and built this logic of their own, and this logic is just what you want whether you want it or not, she is now even in our minds, we ourselves have to deal with it. do you see that there is interest, enough interest and enough chances not to be further in their shadow? i hope so, because it seems to me that even in these 2.5 years there is so much took place, and so much has been said in the... i just hope that he will somehow. to enter

the depths and spread, and just as well, when i skeptically asked myself about the meaning of these trips of mine, and as if, in what way i can influence, and what is my benefit in comparison, for example, with andriy lyubka, who makes very specific practical things, and i am there in addition to what i am constantly listing to donate, well... somehow i did not find myself in volunteering, yes, no, i am not able to do it, but instead i travel and talk about ukraine and ukrainian culture and answer people's questions, and what is the meaning of this, and the further i go, the more i see this meaning, because it is precisely about this void, in the place of ukraine, in the minds

of many people, and about what will be filled. of this emptiness, and the more ukrainian will arise in the world, the more often we will be reminded of ourselves, the more names and figures will be known from different periods of ukrainian history, both modern and previous, the more chances that the general situation will change in general, therefore that this is a question, actually with... and awareness and questioning of some even myths connected, some fantasies connected with specific peoples or countries, because the russian myth, it is very developed, and it can be attractive in the imagination of some people, and very unsympathetic, repulsive in the imagination of other people, but it definitely exists, but to what extent this ukrainian myth exists, who

are ukrainians in general, and it also depends on us, how we will formulate it, shape it, what we will do with it. listen, i remembered, you talk about how it changes, i remembered my conversation with such a russian, georges neva, a frenchman, this conversation was in the spring of 14, when russia had already annexed crimea, and here we are talking with him on another channel, and... and i him, we we are actually talking about this, about this occupation of crimea, and you can imagine, he starts talking to me, he has been engaged in russian studies all his life, a friend of solzhenitsyn, bulat okudzhava, that is, he is very integrated into culture, and he explains to me that russia has a historical right to crimea, let's not forget, you know, the sevastopol story of otlystov and that's it, that's it imagine, it was 10 years ago, but

now... he translates, they say that he translates, that is, he somehow does it, and i heard how oksana zabushko said that they are quite like academic scientists, and that's it about the sovietologists of the past, yes, they told her that listen, we never thought, we always perceived kyiv as the third city of the russian empire, you faced the fact that these are intelligent people, like writers, representatives of the western academy, they say that but only now... it's clear, yes, constantly with it encounter, and moreover, there is another one here, it usually looks like this, for example, i had such a long trip in france in the fall for 10 days with various performances and meetings, and there it very often happened that people who also invited, for example, to a discussion, and

they are... very pro-ukrainian, there are some frenchmen who are specialists in soviet and post-soviet history, and, but now they feel like very pro-ukrainian people, and during their speeches they start with the fact that but ukraine is fighting for independence and so further, he defends himself, and further they do not notice how they simply jump back into the topic of russians. dissidents, russian culture, the fact that stalinist repressions were also directed against russian people, representatives of culture, and they simply do not notice how, thinking that they are talking about ukraine, they are still talking about russia, but this is also impossible, so that their identity is already built on the foundation of, well, understanding things in this way and... and it's very

difficult not to.