by the player, yes, yes, and even yesterday, mr. pavle, it became known that the gurmo of ukraine destroyed a russian tugboat in lake pangolya, crimean tatar, and panove, and what is more interesting here is not that the tugboat was destroyed, because it was completely crossed, but rather that ukrainian naval drones have already overcome these russian ban barriers, which we understand are still there. in novorossiysk ports and other ports where russia hides its ships, does this mean that everything, that is, these ban barriers of russia no longer work, and our naval drones can get any russian ships in the ports of akyar or the ports of novorossiysk? well, not quite so, because the new barriers are a kind of nets that are placed above the surface of the water. on

such buoys and which prevent surface targets from moving into one or another water area, if you look around sevastopol, for example, it is not only the entrance to the sevastopol bay, but there are also several in the southern bay, in several rows there are boom barriers, and in on the northern side, etc., the enemy considers, well, traditionally... such a system of defense the most optimally, well, in combination with anti-sabotage measures by boats, helicopters patrolling the sea, our guys tried to break through these barrier barriers and really broke through, and to say that 100% success is not true, of course, first of all in order to break through , well, it's like a cumulative blow. someone has, one drone has to

break through, sacrifice itself on breaking through the barrier, the second and the others are already breaking into the closed water area, nevertheless, in the sevastopol bay, remember her regular raids in relation to which had their as a result, her opponent is trying to improve this system, for example, in the same notorious crimean bridge. barges are already on display, barricaded or whatever you want to call them, that is, instead of these buoys, there are whole old rusty barges that you have to pass through, well , you can hit such an iron ship, of course, but how long will it sink, and it is obvious that such a way of protection can, well, from the point of view of hopes. well, actually, let them collect, we will

destroy everything in a row in different ways, as the enemy invents new, new methods of defense, we we are inventing new ways of defeating and bypassing it, they tried to use helicopters there at the crossing of the sea to destroy our drones, they began to install... anti-aircraft missiles on drones, we are deploying anti-aircraft missile systems if necessary for remote damage to the shore, so we are developing, we will definitely achieve our goal , well, it’s really interesting, regarding the russian system of jamming our naval drones, last week they did it 32 times, this was an unprecedented case when they raised aircraft into the sky to destroy our naval drones, and on the other hand, we we understand... that group 13 they always

modify our sea babies and so on, but still, as you think, the russians have already come up with such a countermeasure system against our sea drones, or not, until they understand how to counteract this, well, they are constantly inventing, and this is natural, when a new means of defeat appears, they are looking for ways to counteract it. mostly what they do is pretty classic old stuff, mesh barriers, boom barriers, search and destroy patrols, all at sea, that is this is such a traditional anti-sabotage, anti-catter defense, but our drone operators and not only drone operators observe...

new ways of protecting the enemy and find tactical techniques to bypass them, find ways to break through such enemy defenses, here are a few examples. we have already pointed out and there is not only this, this radio-electronic warfare and the complex use of air and sea drones, so for now in this competition, as the sailors call fire and armor, our fire wins, so it is obvious that the russians, well, if it is not panic, then i don't know what actually instead of being tasked by... value, the only task left for russia's black sea fleet is self-preservation. well, if we already neutralize the tugboats, then soon there will be no watercraft at all, only passenger ones, in the occupied crimea. but i

would like to say about the article that appeared in the authoritative edition of the economist, in the british, as. which actually says that ukraine is making crimea such a trap for the russian troops and for the russians, with those blows, which are now the ferry crossings through the kerch strait are destroyed and blocked, and we are sure that with future strikes on the kerch bridge, crimea will simply turn into a territory where a lot is accumulated. enemy force and enemy means, why is this being done, what can ukraine then do with it, start some negotiations at this stage so that they leave the peninsula without weapons, for example, or simply neutralize this channel

for the supply of weapons and power to the eastern front, how do you see this picture, why are we turning crimea into a paska for russians? and they themselves are his turned, actually, by soviet-russian officers there, and not only pro-russian ones, so to speak, the legend was that whoever owns the sea of ​​sevastopol, the crimea and sevastopol, dominates the black sea, well, maybe, it was real there somewhere in the 17th, maximum 18th century, when there were sailing ships. in the wind rose, etc., and for our time, when the black sea, at such speeds and distances, it already became a basin, ee small, er, it no longer works, and ee crimea

remained only a threat for a possible struggle against ukraine, so in 14th year, before 2014, it was we who said that if russia were to invade crimea, then actually... this is the first stage of the conquest of ukraine, but crimea has a weak point, even two, these are isthmuses, this island is actually connected to the mainland with two, two such necks, these are the changars of the excavation, which, if there is a trial. to shut up, then , strictly speaking, it becomes a closed vessel, well , on the other hand, they are now another crossing, this is the kerch transport crossing, the same, the crimean bridge, and the crimean-port kavkaz crossing, if you cut the logistics as well

on the kerch strait, so to speak, crimea becomes. a suitcase without a handle, on the contrary, it not only helps in attacks on the mainland, but also burdens the owner, it is because of this that the russians, already realizing that such an ass is sneaking up on them, are trying to lay a railway right in the combat zone in the south of ukraine, so, the ukrainian... the military chose the most optimal way, it is actually such an operation to prepare the combat space, a planning operation, as our partners, the armed forces, are called, to isolate crimea

peninsula, what will happen to him, to the enemy, the garrison with the enemy group in the crimea, i don't know, to me, actually... very, well, as history shows, they have the chersonese there, i mean no, that the ancient greek place chersonese, and the city of chersonese, and... from chersonese in sevastopol, ugh, where those fleeing from the crimea usually gather, that's yum, well, it's another matter, actually, those who found their way to the crimea, to the invaders , i would advise you to use the crimean bridge, return home to varkuta and naryanmar, so as not to end up in such pasci, well, when we talk about the deoccupation of crimea, and about the operation regarding its

deoccupation, a lot of experts and even the leader of the crimean tatar people, mustafa dzhemiv, said that the destruction of the kakhovskaya hpp by the russian occupiers, and it happened a year ago, as you know, it , but, let's say, yes, unfortunately, it contributed in a very bad way to the fact that our us... would have stopped regarding the north-south direction and the direction of the crimea, is this really the case, as you think, to what extent did the destruction of the kokhovskaya hess by the russian occupiers affect on our offensive regarding the southern direction and of course the crimea? well, it's really not a secret anymore, here i completely agree with mustafaguy, in the 23rd year of the armed forces of ukraine. were planning an offensive from the kherson direction in the direction of chaplinka to kalanchak

there to the crimea, it was on the shortest route, and obviously the russians knew about our plans, some mole, these spies, they reported something to them, and here they used such a barbaric method, to disrupt our planning, well, that's it... you have to understand that not only the liberation of crimea, they failed, they demonstrated that crimea is actually theirs, as a place where people should live, where they should live comfortably, people are not needed at all, together with the kakhovsky reservoir, they emptied the canal itself into the northern crimea, which in the end provided water for crimea for many decades, made it... a native land and how with the return of crimea to ukraine, he would

continue his work, so what the enemies wanted, well, actually they don't need us or our people, and even i'm not sure that they don't need land, but they need such a martian landscape, on which they would be sitting like a dog in the dream, and actually an army. they only need parts there in crimea, everything else is decorations and hostages for them. we remember how in the 14th year, when the invasion of crimea was developing, they actually used the civilian population as hostages and put them in front of their armed men when they captured and stormed ukrainian military units, the same way now, is there no risk, that's okay, we will still be able to surround the crimea. deprive him of his connection with russia, and there will remain many armed russians and at the same time many

ukrainian citizens who are in such a situation there will be hostages, on the one hand i understand that these are our ears and this is a partisan movement, a resistance movement, on the other hand, these are also hostages, these are our people who found themselves in such a difficult situation, so how can we be here? this is a really difficult issue, and our representatives of the authorities, their military, warn the residents of crimea, in particular, crimea now, that it is better to leave dangerous areas, because this is a zone, a promising zone of hostilities, and then return there, when the war wave will wash away from this theater, if... what crimeans, who monitor the situation in ukraine, from time to time open a map

of air alerts, then they see ukraine with two, well, with two constantly red spots, and on their land, red fields of constant air danger, this is the luhansk region of the autonomous republic of crimea, this such a signal that at any moment... at any time there can be, be, it can be dangerous there, hence our signal to the civilian population of crimea. who is loyal to ukraine, what to provide for their families, protection, if possible, leave the peninsula, at least women, children, and if there is an opportunity to move away from russian military units, where they will obviously fly and where there may be

shooting battles at some time, then also move to other areas, at least? yes to other areas, yes, thank you very much, mr. pavle , for taking the time to join our broadcast, pavlo lakiychuk, the head of the security program center for global studies strategy 21, was on the air of the bereber together program in ukrainian, this is a joint project of the tv channel and the atp tv channel, for a moment with we will part ways and meet again here with another guest. there are discounts that represent unbreakable discounts on penistiel 20% in pharmacies, plantain will be carried by you. there are times when the body quickly loses fluid, which can lead to dehydration. when ordinary water is not enough, there is reo. rheo - water for special medical purposes. tingling, numbness, or crawling ants in the limbs arise spontaneously and worry you. a special

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the territory of the temporarily occupied peninsula, which would determine the violation of human rights this week. on the peninsula, because i know, for example, that recently russia has been focusing on so -called saboteurs and terrorists in crimea, and almost every week they detain so-called terrorists, saboteurs who are there are planning, by order of the armed forces of ukraine or gurmo of ukraine, any operations, terrorist attacks on the territory of akhyar and other corners of the crimea, what would you say? well , first of all, i want to say that they are really trying or continuing to persecute our compatriots, they are persecuting articles such as sabotage, espionage and involvement in the battalion named after noman chilibijahan, and what about that video that you demonstrate, well, first of all, for now, here is our opinion, what is it

production video to, well , scare people more, and because... well, really, if we're going to talk about how they provided information, they arrested people who were allegedly previously considered and were previously considered as being involved, as the people of melitopol, what are the five people from melitopol who were previously convicted in the russian federation for terrorism, and that they cooperated there with... with the special services of ukraine, but in general, when we talk about the fact that they are doing, well , it is true these are searches, this is the continuation of the persecution of civilians. journalists, this and arrests, and here i would say more about the fact that they still continue to persecute representatives of the crimean tatar people,

and not all the information we are talking about now can be made public, because the relatives of these people, well, they really ask us so that we don't talk about it out loud yet, because they are interested in being released in the first place, and i remember why this is being done. that in the 14th year there were similar stories, when, well, even then, not even russian law enforcement officers, the so-called occupying forces, even some of their volunteer brigades, they captured some people, accused them of preparing terrorist attacks, i remember there at the new post office in sevastopol they took out some people. shields, as protestors used on the maidan, and they claimed that it was almost some kind of weapon, although it is clear that the shield , on the contrary

, is used for protection, for attack, and then such, well, incitement was felt, including through the tv channel of this russian citizen chaly , the nts was like this, some kind of panic, such panicky moods, fears that the local population was building up. the so-called friendship trains from kyiv and some people from bandera, nazis and so on, but now why do they have this panic and this fear? well , first of all, when we talk about the 14th year, and if we analyze all these processes, i myself fully agree that it is necessary to analyze so that we can clearly talk about the dynamics, about their condition, about their tools, and they used, so the 14th year is really the period when they did not have, let’s say, officially village structures on the territory of the temporarily occupied

crimea, and they tried to use the so -called defense forces there, the defense forces, the people's wives there, etc., although we understand that it was precisely representatives of the fsb, representatives of rural structures of the russian federation who took part in all these wives, and... in addition, as in the newly occupied territories, they did it, let's say, without, let's say, not providing institutions for the protection of human rights, that is, when and then the prosecutor's office system, the police system there, and the judicial system are created there for so that every citizen or resident could apply and demonstrate. and for this they did it for that, and by the way, they also repeated it already in the newly occupied territories, it also happened in the territory of the kherson

region, the zaporizhia region, and in order to really, let's say, intimidate people and so that there would be no pro-ukrainian civil movement . next, they are already creating a system, the so-called law enforcement system, and now including systems have already appeared in the territory of the kherson region, they have... made a genetic court, and that's right here, well, it's good or bad, that's exactly the question, yes, on the one hand, let's say, when we talk about civilian hostages, that is, these people who do not belong to the category of prisoners of war, and do not belong to political prisoners , why? because they are there without a court, without a court decision, without such decisions, well, occupation ones. the system of the occupying power in order to be able to use these documents, why are they detained or kept in the cities of no freedom, are they dungeons or torture chambers of some kind and the like, and here and there with

on the one hand, it can be said that this is where the rights defenders have more opportunities to protect people on the territory of the temporarily occupied kherson region, on the other hand, they are trying to demonstrate to the international community in this way that they... these institutions are being created, and this is where we need to understand what concerns crimea , but at this time, in 10 years, they really created these institutions, but despite all this, we see a different approach and, first of all, in relation to the representatives of the indigenous crimean tatar people, when immediately after the decision international court of the united nations, they started more and intensified the persecution of the representatives of the mijlis korultai system, and thus they are trying. to intimidate people, well, i think it is more related to the fact that for them they are 10 years old, creating all the institutions, power

structures there. and the fsb and others there, they still cannot, cannot cope with the fact that information is still being sent from crimea to the competent authorities of ukraine, to the defense forces of ukraine, where the armed forces of the russian federation or military facilities or new facilities are located some they can't, let's say , control the situation when they provide information about there you... explosions, video footage and so on, and that's why it's very important for them, including that they still haven't been able to fully control when there is such a purely civil resistance when we talk about such phenomena, let's say the colors of the ukrainian flag or yellow ribbons or some other such symbols of ukrainian here and there or crimean tatars there

or libretti kremia. after all, it is very important for them that they are more like this intimidated people so that, let's say , the number of people who could be brought under complete control later, could be controlled more, and besides, they are still doing, as now, now the main thing i would like to say is, they are doing so way, and they come at night and conduct searches or kidnap a person, this is in crimea now. happens, then they promise that they will fire, people try not to talk about it out loud, they do fire, but under what conditions, we still don't know, and that's how i think they try to spread the system, let's say pure quality, or the delivery of information, does it reduce the circle of people who can create resistance, and that's why i think that it's precisely purposeful... well, you

know, i wonder what the russian occupiers want from teenagers, recently the crimean tatar resource center reported that during the occupation of crimea , at least 28 cases of persecution of minors were recorded. do i understand correctly, is it more of an administrative matter or something else, why minors are detained in crimea, on which the cases they are accused of. well , first of all, when we talk about society, about the future in this or that society, and in general, we focus on youth, on youth, on teenagers, how they perceive, and indeed we are witnesses of how actively they are engaged in the politics of militarization, politics propaganda, anti-ukrainian politics, let's say such and such politics, but with all this, when teenagers appear who

use other... sources that try to create, or shoot a video there, or make some, let's say, to manifest, we understand that teenagers and young people are more such maximalists, and they try to do what they can do, and this is precisely where it is very, let's say, dangerous for them, i would say, and these are indicators of that among the youth that they... tried to educate and are trying to educate, teenagers appear who do not take their position, and here they are, well, first of all, they really try to intimidate parents, they open administrative cases or in relation to to the teenagers themselves or in relation to parents, and in this way they try, well, let's say, to educate another part of the youth and children and teenagers in order

to show... that they are in control of the situation and that there will be fines or administrative arrests, and so on including putting pressure on parents not to allow these processes, and therefore, when we see 28 cases, in my opinion, this is a lot, because this is what they recorded, and here i want to say that we... we pretend that all this is all, all information is complete, maybe we are we still do not have additional information, we may have many more of these cases, but this demonstrates that there is a young generation in crimea, which takes, let’s say, which is not the one that takes a pro-ukrainian position, which does not agree with the policy of the occupation authorities on the territory of crimea .