all of them are not about the end of the war, they are not about the interests of any other party, but about the personal interest of china, and now, from my point of view, china is against the background of this war, against the background of a certain division that is happening in the world, and it is caused not only russia and the attitude towards russia from the west, and also various events that are developing around it, in particular the war in gas, and china sees for itself an opportunity to form influential players around the countries of the global south in order to develop its platform, friends, allies, as they would be called, because it is still being formed, but from my point of view, this is the formation from the side of china, a bipolar world in its confrontation with the united states of america, it is happening gradually, visibly or imperceptibly, but in a way and using

this factor is permissible russian aggression against ukraine and various possible factors that currently exist in the world. and what do you think about the so-called peace plan of china, here is this new one, which was made public after the lihue war, then, by the way, was discussed by the minister of foreign affairs of the republic of china vni and by the chief adviser to the president of brazil , marim, and this is already such a chinese-brazilian consensus, what is it and why is it? well, the first points that we will look at are about the need, the first two points, that it is necessary not to escalate the situation, military operations should not expand, the military zones there should not expand and there is no need to add fuel to the fire, and therefore from my point of view sight, if this point, in particular, was not discussed with putin, or at least it was not covered in the conversation and in the final communiqué between putin and... after

of their meeting, it is obvious and not obvious that all of them are aimed not at russia, but at ukraine, because putin in general escalated the situation, during his visit, kharkiv started this new campaign, and it is obvious that if china wanted the situation was not exacerbated by both sides, and now it is obvious which side is escalating it, then he should discuss it with putin and put it out for the sun, but we... did not hear this, instead there is such a general, general piece of paper with which lihui traveled to up to four countries, in particular to turkey, to saudi arabia, the arab emirates, and to egypt, and discussed them, that is , we are talking about ukraine and the west not escalating the situation, well, obviously, yes, and this is not fueling the fire, fire, then this is such a standard phrase, for that the west does not give weapons to ukraine, e. similarly, the second

point states that the parties should create favorable conditions for negotiations and dialogue, and here also china's desire to bring ukraine and russia to the negotiating table can be seen, and it is obvious that in these negotiations, the two sides, which are difficult between to talk to themselves, they will need a communicator, which china calls itself, the rest of the points, they coincide to a greater extent with what ukraine offers, and the stack... exchange, for example, there, and those deported and those captured by the military, nuclear security and so on, that is, the rest of the points, they coincide with ukraine, and then the next question arises, if china proposes such and such its plan, and this plan, it does not differ from the proposals of ukraine, because ukraine also chose only three points, which are the most non-controversial among those countries

which are invited, in particular the global south, and it is very obvious that these points were selected under china and under its peaceful 10 points, that is why it is very surprising why china, for example, as a neutral party does not participate in this summit, and here already the question arises, because china offers its alternative, repeating it, and it is not interested in supporting the ukrainian proposals in any way, but could it be that the kata about... is interested in showing its leadership in, say, brics, here he offers plan, and let brazil support it, the south african republic has already supported it, russia has joined, well, i don't really count on india, but everyone else can simply join the chinese plan, it will be the plan of the organization, at this summit of foreign ministers of brics member countries in moscow, such an idea can absolutely come true, it can absolutely be, we ’ll see, literally this summit starts the day after tomorrow, but... but

this plan, it was discussed with the brics countries, and as an answer we later heard that representatives of these countries brazil, par, saudi arabia will not send. to switzerland of its representatives, well, in particular at a high level, and it is obvious that china is trying to create its own platform with its so-called peace proposals, where russia will agree to these proposals, because russia has spoken several times through the mouth of lavrov putin about the acceptability of chinese proposals , just initiatives, and it is not an exception that at this brics summit there is some support. chinese proposals, it will be discussed, and china will thus be try to promote them, or at least he will have them on the table for the right moment. and why should the united states call on public china to take part in the peace summit, is it the hope that they will be listened to, or is it just

a propaganda story? well, in fact, it has already passed, the matter is already a diplomatic tug-of-war, because the role of china is clear to everyone, to me. neither the united states nor the west have any expectations that china will move on the side of the west, whether it will support, for example, in the form in which we would like ukraine, but still this is a diplomatic delay of the presence of china, especially considering how russia does not want this presence, it, it is, and it an attempt at such pressure, perhaps also from the united states and the desire to show us, as for... european partners, about what china is like, this rapprochement between china and russia, which is already almost final, because in fact the united states of america has to push european partners before making certain decisions, and

for example, the big seven, it should finally consider, let's say, the measures that concern chinese banks there regarding assistance to russia in the purchase of goods. purpose, and it is obvious that this unconstructiveness and rapprochement with russia, it is necessary, and in particular , the demonstration of even such an approach as participation in the swiss summit, it will help to convince these partners. that is, do you think that china has already finally decided that it will be close to russia, and not neutral in the further development of events? i no, i don't want to say that china will not, let's say that it will choose. side, china will act exactly as it deems necessary, that is, in this case in switzerland , it explained its presence with such diplomatic wording, and explained this presence and was supported by this and supported by various other countries, that is, china

is not alone in this case, except that china received our deputy minister, and they talked about the fact that they will maintain bilateral relations there, will interact with well in this way... in this way he is trying to balance the minimal diplomatic interaction that we have, especially during the war, that is, the recognition of china, which has been completely determined, i cannot say, because china views russian aggression against ukraine through its own prism of confrontation by the united states of america, and that is governs what behavior he chooses, what he does and what are the limits of his behavior, i don't think that... will ultimately transition, because there is a great interest in interaction with the united states, and primarily with european countries, and very much in china there are still important moments for interaction, so we will see this cunning chinese

policy, at the same time, i want to say that western countries, as we can see, do not break relations with china to the end, even understanding that it seriously helps russia. because there is such a possibility that this interaction can be even greater, and when china really helps russia, in particular with military methods, it will bring serious consequences in the development of the war. plus there is still a little hope for china, like a deterrent to putin's nuclear threats, although we see putin trying to network those threats, even in the moments when he meets with sidzenpin. but behind the scenes, even european leaders recognize the participation of china and india as deterrents to these threats, and therefore balancing diplomacy from all sides, it will be present. thank you, thank you, mrs. natalia, natalia plexienko butyrska, an expert on east asian issues, was on

the air with us, and now from asia, east to the middle east with vyacheslav likhach, historian, political scientist, researcher, member of the expert council of the center for civil liberties, he is in israel. so let's start with this event that happened yesterday, which was such a great celebration for the israelis, the release of the four hostages. however, the world has mixed feelings about it, like many other events that happen in the region, they say yes, four people were freed, but a large number of civilians of the palestinian authority died in this operation, hamas has already called it, that it is not a victory, but a defeat , how do you generally assess what happened, it is definitely one of the most successful operation since the beginning of the war eight months ago, it is definitely so ... a celebration, because the release of any of the hostages is the very

purpose for which this war began, for which all these sacrifices were made, and the operation may not have been perfect , but it was extremely difficult, one of the most difficult operations not only in this war, but for many years, and it definitely was, it can be considered a great luck. what do you think about the fate of the biden peace plan, which has already been agreed to by the prime minister of israel, netanyahu, but it now threatens him with a mere governmental crisis. no one knows what israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu agreed to. and biden's peace plan has two significant, well , two significant obstacles on the way to its implementation. they are called israel and hamas, that is, the two parties that this plan

is supposed to reconcile. so far, neither israel nor hamas has fully accepted this plan. benjamin netanyahu is allegedly giving signals that he is serious about this plan and is ready to accept it. of course he is acts under considerable pressure, and not only from the united states, but also from other international partners. ah-ah but he has never once clearly articulated that he agrees to a full ceasefire and the end of the military operation in gaza, which is exactly what hamas is demanding, they are demanding to achieve all the previous intermediate steps, it all starts with the establishment of a temporary cessation of the ceasefire regime, then . the release of one group of hostages, then other steps, but everything rests on the fact that hamas does not believe

that israel is ready for a complete cessation hostilities, he believes that israel will agree to a temporary ceasefire to release the hostages and then continue the war, hamas seems to be right about this, perhaps this is what benjamin netanyahu has in mind, but he did not say clearly. what exactly does he sign up for, what exactly does he support and how exactly does he interpret biden's peace plan to which he allegedly agrees in general, and yes, in the event that he agrees to the cessation of hostilities, it threatens him with the collapse of the coalition and early elections, as far as in principle one can realize what the ultimate goals of the prime minister and the government are in the operation, well, they are talking about destruction. hamas, but we see that hamas itself continues to occupy a rather serious position in the gaza sector, even after

such a long time of war, well, how much can we talk about an absolutely unprecedented period, today is the 247th day, hamas actually has intact battalions, here under during this raid to release the hostages, it was said that there was a hamas battalion in this city that was completely unscathed by the previous hostilities, then what time do you need? for the real liquidation of havasa, how is such a liquidation even possible? in this settlement, in this refugee camp, the israel defense forces actually did not enter seriously yet, and so there are combat units of hamas, as well as in many other parts of the gaza strip, according to preliminary estimates, maybe 50%, maybe a little.. . less than the quantitative composition of hamas retains the ability to continue

combat operations, and this means that in 8 months, well , only a little more than half of the entire potential of hamas was destroyed, this means that this war can continue at this rate, at least until the end of this year, or even longer, but actually a good question is: the question of the ultimate goal of this war, because when operation steel sword began, the goal of the operation was.. .two things have been announced, the first is the release of the hostages, the second is the removal of hamas from power in the gas sector, the destruction of hamas' military potential and the elimination of its political potential. the removal of hamas from power in kaza, we can say

, took place, although no other power in the sector was not established, the release of the hostages, as we can see, in general, did not take place in full, and the most successful from this point of view were the negotiations and the way of exchange, in fact, as a result of military operations such as yesterday, only a few were released hostages, there were only a few such successful operations, which means, it means that even... those, that goal that was announced at the beginning of the war, is still far from being achieved, at least as much, but it is not the ultimate goal , because what the actual government of the state of israel sees in this place, after the hostages will be released, the power

of hamas will be destroyed by ham, and its combat potential will also be destroyed, which actually should... take place further this day after, the first day after the war, what will it look like. the israeli government has not formulated its own vision in 8 months. the israeli government says it does not want the palestinian national authority, which lost power there due to a rebellion and coup by hamas 18 years ago, to return to the territory. israel insists. on the fact that he will continue to exercise control over security in this territory indefinite time, it means the de facto return of military control, that is , the occupation, and that means that

the israeli government does not have a final solution, yes, excuse the pun, that is, any vision of what may come after this war, and in fact, that means, that the israeli government is trying not to force, let's put it mildly, events, or, as biden recently put it, netanyahu is dragging out this war, perhaps hoping that the power in the white house will change before the end of this year, what would be for netanyahu personally, as he believes, for israel as a state, very good. and tell me, mr. vyacheslav, at the beginning of this war, we gave as an example the fact that it was possible to create a government of national unity in israel, that some representatives of the opposition went to the government of mr. netanyahu, among them the main figure, of course, was general bini ganz, who became a minister in this government, just a few minutes ago it became known that han was going to resign from this military cabinet of the minister, which was formed after

the war, that he did not even come to the meeting military cabinet, because he is going to retire, that is, this model does not work for a person. national unity or what? it stopped working, it's a crisis that didn't erupt today or yesterday, and even this decision that hans would leave the government was a consequence of the failure to fulfill certain conditions that were publicly announced a few weeks ago, that is , it was a natural process, and most importantly , that such a moderate centrist liberal opposition. which joined the government after october 7 to form a national government unity, it does not share exactly this strategic vision of binyamin netanyahu for how to conduct the war and for the future of the gaza strip, or rather, it does not share the lack of this strategic vision on

the part of netanyahu, the direct specter that has led to hans now leaving the government. is that granz was pressuring netanyahu to accept the peace proposal articulated by united states president joe biden, and he was not satisfied with how netanyahu was avoiding a direct and clear answer as to whether he was agreeing to the cessation hostilities without hans and without those political... forces that have already left the government of national unity, the coalition remains valid, that is, it does not automatically mean the collapse of the coalition. early elections, but in fact, if netanyahu agrees to biden's proposal, it will mean the collapse of the coalition for him, because

the far-right parties, tseonu dotit and otsmayugudit, which are part of the government, will certainly leave the government after that, they do not agree to biden's peace proposals and speak quite aggressively about them, that is, this pressure. on the part of the united states , for netanyahu to accept these proposals would mean for him personally the destruction of the coalition he leads and the end of his term as prime minister, because after early elections he has very little chance of retaining his position in the government. tell me, mr. vyacheslav, how likely is the worsening of the situation in the north, because in recent days everyone has been talking about the possibility of such a situation. in the north, as in the south of israel, that hezbela is preparing for approximately the same actions that hamas was preparing for. well, taking into account that for the last eight,

the last eight months, israel is preparing for a possible attack from the south, then under such a scenario, the escalation with hizballah will not happen, as it happened on october 7, since the beginning of the war with hamas, but hizballah definitely has a lot. er, a more powerful and dangerous missile potential, and in general it is probably the largest military, non-state military power in the world, so a confrontation with sisbola can be much more critical for israel, much more difficult than a confrontation with hamas, indeed, in recent days, the intensity of mutual shelling and exchanges of bpl strikes'. between israel and hizbollah in lebanon, north of israel, is increasing significantly and it is said that now is the time for israel

to decide whether it is ready to step up the fighting against hizbollah and push this threat away from the borders, or if hizbollah will feel that israel is not decisive enough and enough... means, which will mean hizballah will increase the pressure, because that's how it works in the middle east, so israel is indeed on the brink of a major war hezbollah, but it still seems to me that right now its probability is not high, and it seems to me that despite the increase in the intensity of hostilities, they still remain, as they say in israel, lower. for the fault of escalation, after which the war becomes irreversible, it seems to me that, well

, it has not been calm there for the last 8 months, and several hundred hezbollah fighters have already been eliminated, and the israel defense forces daily strikes the positions of hezbollah fighters on the territory of lebanon, currently international players including by the united states and euros... the alliance is doing everything to pressure the lebanese government to take certain measures and to pressure hisba to prevent a major war in the region, but it seems to me that the more important factor here is the period that currently the islamic republic of iran is experiencing, on which hizballah is completely and completely dependent politically, financially and in a military sense, and the islamic republic... is currently in the wrong political period to start a new wave of escalation, it has to go through this transit

period of a change of power, so the nearest sprat months, i don't expect iran to allow or order hezbollah to launch a more aggressive offensive against israel that would lead to a truly significant war in the north. thank you, vyacheslav likhachev, historian, political scientist, researcher, member of the expert council of the center for civil liberties in israel, and now from the near east to latin america with alexey otkydach, a specialist in latin american issues at the adastra center, greetings mr. oleksia, good day, well and let's start with the news of the last days, the president of argentina, javier millay, is not will be present at the peace summit in switzerland, he also refused to meet with the president of ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyi and from the meeting with french president emmanuel macron, his european tour was significantly shortened, well, we recently considered mr. miley one of the most important supporters of ukraine in latin america, for his

inauguration. despite all, i would say so, its strangeness of the composition of the participants of this ceremony of such far-right politicians, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, who was there in the company of viktor orbán, let's say, other supporters of donald trump, and now javier miley does not even want to be present at the peace summit that is taking place, several factors play a big role here, first, in general, if what president miley demonstrated. his foreign policy is quite, i would say emotional, that is, he often makes statements or steps, visits, which are determined, as it were, by his subjective desire, his subjective preferences, etc., i don't think that he has a warm welcome there was with zelensky that, you know, played out and one-off, he just liked zelensky there, they hugged there, everything is fine, no, secondly, he has a lot of internal challenges and

it is obvious that... that certain leaders, especially in latin americans, especially in africa, that is, in those countries, yes, which are not so involved in the european context, which are not so involved in our over there invasion of our war, they pay attention first of all to internal domestic factors, and then they already think about foreign policy , but actually for expert environment, i am sure for the ministry of foreign affairs there and for many, in general, this refusal from the point of view of mileia is a surprise, because the relations between the leaders developed quite actively, quite until... there were also coordination talks, and there at the level of the ministry of foreign affairs, there was an ambassador and so on, that is, everything logically led to the fact that he should go, here for certain reasons that are known, well, except that he personally, his closest circle there, he refuses, and it is actually extremely difficult to analyze why, so that everything was going it is quite logical, that is, in fact, it cannot be assumed that the president of argentina could take into account some of his special contacts with

moscow there. or beijing, he refused to join brics, right? yes, 100%, that it is not under the pressure of the russians there, or not under the pressure of, for example, china, we know that countries, for example, colombia, peru, ecuador, they will be present at the peace summit at a certain level, but at the same time, these countries have, if not the most, leaders who are the most, let's say, positively disposed to significantly more than miley is positive towards the russians, towards the chinese, and therefore no, we cannot assess that miley's refusal was caused by some external pressure. now to another latin american country, where there is also a change of power, president miley recently came to power, unexpectedly, in mexico, you can say, this is such a change of power, which speaks of the continuation of the course that has been associated with the president

of this country in recent years. holopis obrador, such a charismatic politician, a long-term leader of the opposition, who came to power, but the new president, claudia scheinbaum, is considered a person who will be, so to speak, the heir of her political teacher, or will she not be, or does it not happen in mexico that there is a direct heir? in fact, this is one of the long-standing political traditions of mexico, that in mexico the power of the president is quite strong, the presidential term lasts for six years. and even the so-called term arose, it is very difficult to explain it from the point of view of etymology in linguistic terms, but such an heir, yes, as conditionally there in russia they appointed an heir, in mexico many presidents were shown the heirs in the same way, they said: this is the person i want to see as the next president. in the case of claudia sheinbaum , that's basically what happened, and we see that in the elections, she basically defeated not only

one of them. the opposition party, it was opposed by the three largest opposition parties in general, which united in one block, in one coalition, and these are the parties that previously fought and competed with each other, i.e. morena's presidential party, initially lopez obrador, now claudia schönbaun, she managed to win the elections in 2018, now the 2024 elections, and in fact 12 years of mexican history will pass under this banner. a party that was able to wrest power from a completely different political class in mexico, which is left-wing, which is right-wing, well, center-left, let's say, and what can the politics be, what changes can you expect, are there any changes in politics that will distinguish claudia shinbau from lópez obrador, in particular in foreign policy, in relations with america, attitudes towards russia's conflict with...