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well, what kind of impression does it make on partners, or, relatively speaking, they might not notice this nuance? no, they will notice this nuance, you understand, they are asking questions, let them not do it publicly now, but not publicly, well, let's say this, the tension is growing, because you understand, both kubrakov and naim, well, they had one such specificity, there are actually not many such people in power, they had somewhere direct access, including to our partners, and they could discuss with them many issues that concerned the actual their sphere of activity, the fact is that they had such departments for which they were responsible, which received significant and financial assistance from our partners, and therefore they had to discuss all these issues in some way there, and they were aware in the subject of these questions. by the way, i saw mr. mustafa just a couple of days ago, well , last week at a conference, and he just said there that the key for ukraine today is , among other things, reliance on those funds. which are given to us by our
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partners, and we need to work on ensuring that these to receive funds, he there called on representatives of local self-government to do just that, that is, clearly, well, we are talking about some established connections that worked in this case for the good of the country, and when such people, look, are removed, or they leave, well, kobrakov was removed, the arguments that were given, i will not delve into the essence of the claims and so on, but in general, the arguments that were given, they were probably insufficient, at least for our partners as well. it concerns, for example, well, the dismissal, well, actually of his own volition, mr. nayem, he wrote certain explanations there, and i think that these explanations will again exclude our partners , will cause even more questions than, let's say, well, they give some answers there, why did it happen, he didn't call some things by their names there, but it would probably be good now, if this resignation is already agreed upon, then he will have to, probably it would be right to tell in more detail who interfered, what the problems were, because i,
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for example, did not see direct lines in his post someone's accusations of corruption, but some such things were implied, that there is the implementation of certain projects, which are done on the initiative of certain parties, and they clearly have nothing to do with national interests, well, that was clearly enough, yes, but by and large he has no choice then, he has to call a spade a spade, say who specifically interfered, who took the money, yes... he wanted to implement his projects, not according to the ones that were developed and that were there contain, for example, a corruption component. maybe, we will get answers to these questions. maybe we will wait, i will note, by the way, that we also wrote to mustafa nayem, he did not respond, but this is a topic that will probably continue for more than one day, and we are also ready to give the floor to mustafa for a comment and time for the interview, and now let's talk about personalities and what you mentioned, lust for power. and the times
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wrote such headlines about andriy yermak and the fact that his influence is so significant on the ukrainian president, it should also be remembered that in may there was a publication by the washington post, also about yermak's influence, and it said that he reduces trust in the president, and that he has become probably the most influential head of the president's office in the history of ukraine, why all these publications and what in general are in the comments, you know us , what they write, say specifically. what are the claims against andrii yarmak? krystyna berdynskikh just got involved, she says that this is manual control, and this is that, in her opinion, there is a fair there, he wants to do pr, and what are these achievements to become famous and influential there, and such moments sound like that, and what can you say about these materials, to what extent you agree with them and what are the possible shortcomings or your questions regarding andriy yarmak's activities, can you express them? well, look, i think the key
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claim, and it's there, is that we're talking about a person who has a huge amount of power that he doesn't have under current law, that's the key point, we're talking about, you know, informal practices, that is, he is not even a civil servant, he is the head of the office there president, but at the same time he coordinates practically everything in the country and influences everything, starting from foreign policy and ending with actually what... economic things there, but pay attention, even in this group that goes to the recovery conference, there are for example, there is a person who works in the office, mr. shurma, yes, who told journalists on cam, well, on camera, how he distributes and cuts tasks to the cabinet of ministers and individual ministries, and he does not see anything strange in this, although by authority , according to the position he holds, he has nothing to do with it at all nothing to do with it, and it seems to me that this is the key... the claim is that this volume
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of informal powers, which are not prescribed in any law, and by the way, for which these people, including mr. yaermak, do not bear any responsibility , well, maybe apart from the political one, if he is there... he will be fired there someday, although it is unlikely, yes, it leads to the fact that we will end up with manual control, we will get a huge number of informal such agreements that take place behind closed doors , and we have, this is a very important point, violation of procedure when at meetings, well, as it is stated in all the articles, for example, yes, the ambassadors do not meet with the president, because they want to, but they are forced to meet with yermak, despite the fact that according to the protocol, well, they should at least meet there with the minister of foreign affairs. affairs, but that doesn't happen, and it certainly causes some concern when there is a person who has a huge amount of authority and he is not there, say, you know, a member of a representative body of government, is not a government official, even in that understanding, as it is laid down in our laws, but at the same time it can influence and determine
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any processes that exist in the country, and this , of course, scares many people, why, because there are suspicions and well-founded suspicions that this can happen, i i say... it can turn out, yes, this does not mean that it is so, to turn away some authoritarianism and the creation of an essentially, well, shadow system of management that will exist in the country, well, everyone knows very well that, for example, the cabinet of ministers, we know the story again, with all due respect to mr. shmyhal, i do not think that he was a person who single-handedly made the decision not to let him to the conference, as if this decision was fully, well, let's say, agreed upon and everyone knows perfectly well where such decisions are agreed upon, the people's deputies speak about it directly, and this is... an abnormal story, because there is the verkhovna rada council, there is a cabinet of ministers, and they currently do not influence the processes, the processes are influenced by the office of the president, and this is a problem, if it was more or less clear that in the first year of a large-scale war, for the sake of, you know, there is a consolidation of all resources and so on, then now, when the situation is very different
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from the 22nd year, it causes a lot of concerns from the point of view of democratic practices in ukraine. and i will also note that in their material the times also wrote about the fact that, well... there is a question about yermak in the sense that his influence also led to the release of valery zaluzhny and kubrakov, there is also such a version, of course i i emphasize once again that we are ready to give the floor to the representatives of the president's office and andriy yermak himself, the request from radio liberty has been in the up for a long time and of course to discuss these important issues. igor , thank you for joining, igor iterovich, a political scientist was a guest of svoboda ranok. so the recovery conference that started today in germany, in berlin, what is happening there, what to expect, let's talk next, maria mezyntseva, people's deputy from servant of the people and deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on ukraine's integration with the european union, is present now, you are at
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the recovery conference in berlin, i congratulate you, thank you for joining, i see that you are already in place, so definitely glory to ukraine, greetings from berlin, just got through security. events, a lot of people, a lot of guests, i was at the recovery conference in lugano, i wasn't in london, but i think, according to the number of participants and distinguished guests and different countries of the world participating in this conference, it will be, say yes, top, ugh, yes, glory to the heroes, i will answer, thank you for joining, and right on the spot, maria, maybe you have already talked with someone and there is already some, some kind of reaction at all? and expectations, well, first of all, what are you, how people's deputy, what do you expect to bring back to kyiv with your colleagues and representatives of the authorities there from this conference, only, if possible briefly, because we have many questions, time is short, of course, of course, you know, while i am in berlin, they have already arrived in kharkiv generator transformers from german and
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other partners, that is, the conference has not yet started, our partnerships are working, and this is, of course, an energy issue, this is the creation of economic jobs. question, because germany and other countries of the world are helping the ministry of economy regarding the updated programs to create jobs and provide them to ukrainians and all idps in our country, because the economy must work, let me remind you, we cost ourselves 7 billion a month, and our existence from this is 3.5 billion euros, this i will borrow funds from both the ukraine facility project, and... the international monetary fund, and other donors. today we will also talk about security. i know that ukrainian arms manufacturers have already arrived at the conference and will meet with their partners on the sidelines outside the conference . i think these are about the results of these
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discussions we will talk about in the following days. it is also very important to talk about security measures, the provision of air defense, because we know with you how difficult decisions are made to protect the sky, germany itself had 11 patriot systems, three of which were transferred to ukraine, one system can be sponsored. by our partners from the netherlands, this is also a matter of the f-16 coalition, because our pilots have already received certificates for flights, that is, of course, they are humanitarian and security blocs, and we know that zelenskyy should meet with mr. scholtz, obviously, maybe they will be there news from there, maria, regarding the representation of ukraine, given that ukraine does not have a vice-prime minister for recovery and the minister of infrastructure there, oleksandr. there is no leader,
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there is no new one, there is no old one either, with mustafa nayem, you know, and also in the western media, they write about it, he is the head of the state agency for the restoration and development of infrastructure, he was not released from the country, he wrote a statement of resignation, well it is also a big story how western partners react to these news in general, how much they are confused by this issue. are they not disorientated about who to communicate with, or with whom to build relations, any agreements regarding the reconstruction of ukraine? i would comment and quote one of the leaders of uyendoni, referring to our partners, who are precisely the country that hosts us, yes, and a huge thank you to them, they do not see a big problem in the fact that, for example, one, one minister. or two, it is permissible, absent, well, for example, the prime minister could not come, currently, as you correctly
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noted, there is no head of the relevant ministry, there is a written resignation letter mr. nayem, but the delegations have arrived, they have arrived in the parliamentary dimension, governmental and public, public community, that is, these are public organizations that are sponsored, supported by various countries of the world, and just... they will have a great chance of a voice in various discussion panels, i looked , we even have, you know, fewer speeches on actually politicians than experts and the public environment, so the problem is that if we do not observe very briefly, mary, are they asking you about the head of the president's office andrii yermakimes wrote the material about andriy yarmak's thirst for power there, about how his role is getting stronger, before that, washington. wrote about his role as a leader in this place, and also the times connected
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kubrakov's resignation and dismissal precisely with yermak's will, so to speak, do you discuss these issues on the sidelines with your western partners? i'll be honest, and very briefly, no, and i'm sometimes, well, even there, you know, surprised by a certain demonization of this issue, i'll remind tv viewers what to fire and appoint a minister. it is in the direction of infrastructure restoration that the verkhovna rada has authority council of ukraine, which was done in accordance with the constitution. i am sure that this position is important, the separation of the ministries should have taken place because, you know, such a huge amount of work, i am not analyzing mr. kubrakov's activity now, it was very effective, his team showed itself very worthy. and by the way, i also saw part of this team among the participants of the conference,
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despite the resignation, i am sure that they will definitely make the appropriate and necessary decision in the next plenary session, sorry, something with the internet, a little with connection, we have half a minute left, what do you associate mustafa nayem's resignation with, here already directly. shmyhal to this question is related to the fact that mustafa was not released from the country for this conference, well, the resignation happened, can it somehow weaken ukrainian positions, and that these are political games, or why is this happening, why was he not released in the first place first of all, i cannot assess why certain civil servants may or may not be released, we have a procedure for crossing the border, which has long been agreed upon with mustafa, whom i personally know, i do not know. why he wrote a statement, i only saw his post, since we were moving for 25 hours by
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trains, i didn’t have a chance to talk, especially regarding this decision, well, if you return to kyiv, you will somehow ask, i don’t know from the government representatives, why this happened , it confuses you as a people's deputy, and now what confuses me is the speed and fairness of decision-making for ukraine in the humanitarian and economic spheres. maria mezynseva and the deputy head of the committee on integration of ukraine with the european union. in svoboda ranok was a guest of the verkhovna rada. and we talked about these topics on the air, i see a lot of comments from you. leave these comments, let's discuss under this video about the influence of andriy yarmak, and i also emphasize that we are ready to provide time for the air and answer the questions that arise here for all those who have spoken here on the air, but who
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ukrainians gave their answer, volodymyr panioto, sociologist, doctor of philosophy, general director of the kyiv international institute of sociology. and just who conducted this survey, and the professor, national kyiv-mohyla university academy joins us, mr. volodymyr, we welcome you, good afternoon, the majority of ukrainians believe that there should be no criticism of individual actions of the government, or if there should be, then within a constructive framework, as we journalists know, sometimes how viewers write to us here for our youtube broadcasts. not all, of course, but the part about what these journalists allow themselves, why do they criticize the government during a full-scale invasion, the government cannot be criticized, how do you like these results? surveys, what do they testify about, or ukrainians do they understand that democracy is important, and that criticism, even during a full-scale
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invasion, is important and necessary to sustain democracy? the fact is that criticism of the government, this ee, is really a certain problem, because on the one hand, ee, for resistance to m... there must be a high degree of integration and trust in the authorities, otherwise mobilization and all other things will not be carried out well, and besides it will be worse to give us weapons, because our foreign partners will not trust them. on the other hand, the government can assume mistakes and errors, and if it is not criticize. they can also be bad, that's why there is such a significant problem here, we asked this question at the beginning, after the start of the war in
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may 22, and 68% said that now it is not possible to criticize the government, but already in october 23 there were only 25 of them. therefore, we clarified a bit and inserted an option about constructive criticism of the government, and this is precisely the majority, because people believe that criticism should be inoffensive, in fact, that is, it should be constructive, not aimed at reducing the authority of the government, so that... you can say help her work without errors or fix errors? well, if we talk now about
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ratings, in particular trust and so on, there is an interesting point here that there is a high rating, of course, of president zelensky, which , however, is decreasing all the time from poll to poll, but now the president has more than 50% of support , whether it was 60, i don't remember exactly. but at the same time, for example, a terribly low percentage of support for, say, the presidential faction in the parliament, and which he basically created himself, or, for example, his environment, what is around him, does this mean that, in principle, ukrainians remain in the paradigm of such russian thinking: a good tsar, bad boyars, or would this still be an exaggeration? after starting war, well, a large-scale war, in general, all indicators increased very much , and the attitude towards the parliament and the attitude towards
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the government, and they began to decrease er only at the end of 2023, after a not er... not very successful or counteroffensive, which at least did not meet our expectations, and all the same , trust in the authorities, it fell, but remains larger than it was before the start of the war, in terms of the faction, then it seems to me that uh... really this party itself did not expect such success, and therefore from the very beginning, when
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it was formed, it was too broad, and they got there people who did not have experience and were not as well selected as in other parties, if... nevertheless, let 's talk about how we should behave, for example, in relation to this criticism itself, that is, are ukrainians in published, editorial material was published, for example, the editorial material economist just came out, when the term of president zelensky has expired, the absolute majority of ukrainians, and this is a completely healthy opinion, do not support the idea of ​​re-election or re-holding of elections and so on and so on, and... this is correct, and all healthy people in this country, i think, are will confirm, it is impossible to organize and ensure transparent democratic elections, where there would be completeness and opportunity and observance
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of all. constitutional rights and so on and the like, let's not even touch on that, the question is another one, which is asked by the economist, nevertheless, president zelenskyi, the authors write the editorial staff of this publication must find a way to prove that democracy and the legitimization of government rights exist in ukraine, there are different ways to do this, or in your opinion, well... those trends that there is, well, for example, with the same yermak, about whom we talk all the time in one way or another, about whom more and more disaffected publications appear in the west, whether these are these trends, or do they not go against those with the desire of ukrainians for democracy, which also confirm sociological polls, it is difficult for us to say something specific about personnel and what can be done here, but so far...
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the population has no doubts about the legitimacy of zelensky, he really had 90% at the beginning of the war, then he executed very gradually, and up to 80 at the end in 2023, more also because of an unsuccessful offensive, but a counter-offensive, and then he still lost somewhere under... 15% when he fired zaluzhnyi, but now he has about 60%, and 70-80% do not want his re-election, so besides, the political forces did have an agreement at the end of that year about the fact that there will be no elections, so nothing threatens his legitimacy now, regarding other... problems with the authorities, with
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him, indeed, trust in them is much lower than in zelensky, but what can be done here is probably rather a question not for me, we measure more than we give management recommendations. mr. volodymyr, i would like to ask you about your attitude. regarding criticism of the actions of the authorities in a regional context, there is also an interesting trend that in the east and south there should be less constructive criticism, or none at all to be, and fewer people think so, well, in principle, the situation is such that those who say that criticism should be harsh and uncompromising,
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in the west in... the center and even in the south , approximately the same number of about 30%, in the east, indeed this indicator is much higher, it is one and a half times higher, it is almost half, 47%, believe that criticism should be harsh and uncompromising, although in principle there are no regional differences left in us on many indicators, and the attitude towards nato, the attitude towards the european union, the attitude towards... towards russia and so on earlier was very large, but from here we see that there is a difference according to this indicator and the rise is still significantly different. thank you, volodymyr panioto, sociologist, doctor of philosophy, general director of the kyiv international institute of sociology and professor of the kyiv-mohyla academy, was in touch with us and talked about the results of a recent study by kmis on how ukrainians feel about criticism of the government. dear friends, it
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is almost 10 o'clock in the morning, which means. that we will watch a fresh selection of news that there happened in ukraine and the world, kateryna sharko explains, katya, you have a word, congratulations, congratulations, lesya, andriy, in a moment i will tell you about how much the number of victims has increased as a result of the russian shelling of kharkiv and the disappearance of the plane in russia. news time on the espresso tv channel. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. the security service of ukraine has been conducting security measures in the government quarter of kyiv since morning. law enforcement officers check citizens' documents and inspect premises on the territory of pecherskyi and shevchenkivskyi districts the capital the goal is to protect against saboteurs, important state facilities and places of mass gathering of people. one. a man died and
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