dissemination of certain information, and restrictions by law, it is very important, not by the cabinet of ministers, not by the chairman of the verkhovna rada, not by matsuka, not by the president's office, not by an adviser to the president's office, by law, in ukraine there is a so-called 3+1 principle, which is prohibited by law in our country, three is something that directly relates to war. it is a criminal act in ukraine to spread information about the combat work of the defense forces, about the deployment of the defense forces and about the movement of the defense forces, so they say, they saw the work of the air defense forces, well done, remember tell your children and grandchildren, but do not film and do not spread, because this is the spread of combat work, a criminal act and so on, plus one - this is the spread of what yaroslav briefly said, it is the spread of messages. which

are consonant with the state of the aggressor, what is this, this is the justification of aggression, this is the justification of the ideology of the russian world, this is the praise of the forces of the aggressor and so on, there are different responsibilities from criminal to administrative, to banned organizations and so on, but that's all, that's all the other, sorry, is a distribution issue information and a healthy atmosphere, i am glad that all of us here, regardless of party... flags, agreed that healthy criticism that offers alternatives is necessary, because all the examples that you gave, mr. serhiy, and that prosecutor, forgive me, and that matsuka, and everything else, they have a very important common feature, they are based on facts, these are not conjectures, these are not lies, these are facts that should be investigated by law enforcement agencies, hence colleagues called articles of the criminal code and so on, that's all.. . should work

law enforcement system, and if it does not work, then this is the subject of justified criticism both in ukraine and abroad, because sorry, when the espresso channel, as well as the direct and the fifth channels are non-digital broadcasting, this is illegal, because there is no of the law, there is no decree and even a reference to any decrees on the unification of information facilities and so on, do not provide for disconnection of channels. moreover, colleagues, ukraine is joining the eu and nato, and on the one hand, the european council, discussing the issue of allocating to ukraine 50 billion euros, clearly indicated that the disconnection of three channels is a problem. the united states state department has also identified this as a problem, so it will all have to be fixed. the only question is, at what price and what else ukraine will pay in the postponement of aid. in the fall of one's image

and other things, other things, which, unfortunately, are now being paid for with the blood of our defenders, it all depends, i'm sorry, on the responsibility of the authorities, so i have a huge request for those who make decisions in ukraine, just understand one thing: ukraine is joining the eu and nato, and society will not let you deviate from this course, so all your censorship will become obvious, all your darkrooms will become obvious and... your corruption will also become obvious, so you better just get used to the new rules. thank you, mr. rostyslav, mr. oleksandr, you communicate quite actively with our western partners, how do they feel about what is happening in the media, in the press, in particular with the scandals regarding ukrinform and the disconnection of tv channels, do our western partners often talk about , which is nevertheless the basis of democracy. words, they should be

cornerstones in a democratic country, which is ukraine. well, i did not discuss such specific issues with western partners or western colleagues, because we are mainly talking about other issues related to the provision of military-technical assistance, support to ukraine and so on, but we all understand that, for example, if we take nato, it should be understood that nato, as written in solid... monographs, is also an organization that is united around certain values, including such values ​​as human rights, as democracy, as supremacy law, this applies to the european union as well, i.e. the issue of freedom of speech, the issue of criticism, this is an integral component of the legal system of the european union and nato values. that is, if we really claim full rights. participation in membership

in these organizations, we need to have the necessary high level of protection of human rights, if there are any events or situations related to. violation of freedom of speech and so on, then you need to protect this right, you need to fight, you need to contact law enforcement agencies, go to court and so on, i believe that it's not only a right, it's a civil duty of every person, including a journalist, to protect their right, it's normal, it's democracy, well, obviously, it's the government's obligation to ensure the right and access to information and not limit it. mass media, because well, with all due respect to the judicial system and to addressing the judges, but we understand that in principle the problem is not that through the court to defend the right of espresso to be in t-2, but the right of justice, which has be and which will have to be

renewed both for espresso and for the fifth channel, and regarding the direct channel, well, we will wait for the decision of... the authorities, i think that the authorities will still hear us. one more topic, gentlemen, is quite relevant, this is the conference on the restoration of ukraine, it began today in berlin, the day before mustafa naim loudly slammed the door, and he wrote a statement from the position of the head of the agency for the restoration of ukraine, he said that shmyhal, the prime the prime minister of ukraine is sabotaging, or let's say, he did everything so that the agency. did not fulfill its duties, did not implement projects, and two more of mustafa's deputies left and also resigned, but we can only see the reaction of shmyhal, who says that,

in fact, mustafa did not go to berlin, because there will be his report on june 12, and they say that everything is connected with this. have we heard enough arguments in these situations, taking into account the fact that the conference on the restoration of ukraine is important, and the agency headed by mustafa is still headed by mustafa, it is key in the restoration of ukraine, and this is how it looks to our western partners, that the minister from germany was going could not meet with kubrakov, because he was unexpectedly dismissed, now mustafa naemnyi could leave the country, because the prime minister... was against it, mr. rostislav, do you understand what is happening now in the government and in the central authorities, and why this is happening, how it affects the atmosphere of our cooperation with western partners, especially on the day when

an important conference is taking place in berlin, see, of course, that there is nothing good in this, because today we have seen very good yes... formal, this is the first day, it is logical, statements, we have heard about the promises of extending military aid, extending economic aid, but the president of the european commission, ursela vanderlajen, said, perhaps today, the key phrase, that even the allocation of the aid, which is about today it was discussed, it operates according to the logic and formula of reform for money or money for reforms, and what is this, my colleagues will not lie, last week in... the supreme council agreed, ratifying a document that provides specific points, specific indicators that ukraine must achieve in the issue of freedom of speech, by the way, and in the issue of the rule of law, and in the issue of combating corruption, and in the issue of the effectiveness

of the administration itself, because for me, by the way, the fight against corruption is also an issue of efficiency management, because corruption kills this efficiency, kills faith in justice and kills. proper distribution of resources, so we can say that this atmosphere, as you say, that has been created, it is obviously unhealthy, because the partners are no longer just shouting or saying somewhere on the sidelines or something meetings, now you have a video series going on, and they write in the documents, and there is a resolution of the european parliament, which is generally aimed at supporting ukraine, there are correct things written about the aggressor, who putin is, where he should go, and so on. further, but it is also about the fact that ukraine should use all opportunities and resources in order to convey its position, and when it comes to the point that the head of the relevant agency is forced to talk about his resignation on the eve of the conference, well, it is definitely not

healthy when he they write by hand there disagreed, although there the apparatus prepared the opposite resolution, yes, obviously these things could be worked out in working order. understand who and how conducts conversations with partners, go through the work component and then make some personnel conclusions, if they are important, well, in the end... mustofa made his statement yesterday, yes the day before, and kubrakov, yes, well, sorry, already more a week has passed since he was removed, well, who instead deals with these decisions, with whom to talk to the authorities instead, it seems to me that this is an absolutely irresponsible approach, as they say, they owe you, they all owe us, and therefore somehow it will be, well, forget it, because the fact that ukraine, thank god, and by the way, the most important thing to thank is the armed forces, that ukraine has achieved that now... she will already be negotiating with the european union about membership, then we must understand that in the future

there will be no concessions, that in the future we will not be able to say that someone owes us and so on, we are forced to conduct the conversation professionally, and part of the professional conversation - is to make it clear to our partners that all the government and the opposition says with one voice that there will be no travel restrictions, including those of powerful... opposition deputies, this problem concerns almost the entire parliament, that there will be no such surprises in power, because this, unfortunately, just shows that, well, , as the partners like to say, you still need to do your homework, you know, it is counterproductive when such a signal is sent, instead of the fact that all of ukraine is united in the fact that we are going to europe and defend our right to exist, mr. oleksandr , are there really any serious ones? claims to mustafa nayem and to oleksandr kubrakov, that this already led to

the resignation of one and the near resignation of another, because he wrote a statement of resignation, i mean mustafa nayem, so that our viewers somehow understand why this is happening, if mustafa nayem in this situation should not answer there for the construction of fortifications and protective... chests as a thesis and a gesture, why did he make this statement on the eve of the restoration of the forum for the restoration of ukraine, so what, what, how do you see this whole story from the inside? well, the fact is that i personally have some complaints about there are no specific persons, but the fact that there are personnel changes, especially during the war, this is perhaps a normal phenomenon, and each, each episode, it seems to me, should be considered separately and searched for. the reason, specific reasons, but i believe that if you are an official and occupy a responsible

position, then you have a choice: either you implement what you believe in, implement it in your program, defend your principles, or you simply capitulate and resign, that is , each person decides in his own way, this is the right of each official, it seems to me that if a person really believes in what he is doing, then he must fight to the end. and we have to fight for our right, implement our program, and we have yaroslav yurchyshyn on the phone, because we had some problems with communication, mr. yaroslav, you obviously know this story with mustafa nayem in more detail and or what are the representatives of non-governmental forces and anti-corruption forces saying? what are they saying, who in this situation is right, who is wrong, and who is the point in this

conflict that has begun and we are witnesses who should put an end to this conflict? well, it is the full responsibility of the government to take such steps on the eve of the conference, to provoke, well, actually a demonstration of the disunity of the ukrainian team, and... well, in my opinion, at least short-sighted, but at the same time, well, we can hear a positive assessment there from the point of view of the anti-corruption or recovery organizations there, but that will be their focus, and we hear the government's own position that a performance report is critically needed to see their own focus. from this side, but the biggest problem is that we went, as a country on the verge

of recovery, without a profile minister, ah, without, in fact, a profile administrator of the recovery process, despite the fact that the profile administrator of the recovery process until recently was mustafa nayem , well, he publicly stated that he was being set up. in the wheel, well , again, such a strange situation turns out that there we, as ukrainians, will never lose a chance to bend from overclocking on a rake, right? in fact, there is a need for reporting and strengthening of the team, which is engaged in the restoration of the person from the point of view of professionalism, well, it looks like it is, because hardly anyone, including you, will agree that we are all right with this process. in principle, if we follow even the logic of what is happening in the country, we started talking about

this recovery very early, and we ourselves barely, well, if it is possible to drive a trap at a time when we... critically need it, and here is mr. mareshko very clearly noted that all our conversations with international partners actually begin and end with weapons, it is critical for us to survive, and in this moment, and actually a demonstration of unity, there may be some misunderstandings, there may be some personal or organizational problems, but if we understand... that we are preparing a conference that is critically important for our international partners understood for what and how and in what way the funds will be invested in reconstruction, how we guarantee their effective use, how we guarantee their control, and well, at this moment to actually start

reshuffles, well, at least short-sighted, that's why i think that a... it significantly hit the efficiency, it's very positive that we didn't drive with bare hands, the ukrainian facility plan, that is, the plan of our activities, which are really very connected, and there are gains, we get help, there are no achievements, well , we will have to wait, this is very good, here the ministry of economy can congratulate all the experts, of course there is no limit to perfection, it is possible to improve there... but this is something that was critically necessary to show, well, now our task is to quickly show who will be to implement this plan, that is, first of all , a huge component that concerns regional development, infrastructure, and in general recovery, now in any case the ball is in the court of the majority, in the court of the government team itself, and we really

hope that not will be delayed with proposals for proselytizing. the successors of kubrakov and mustafa nayem, because it is a huge problem when international partners do not know with whom they should coordinate their actions. thank you, mr. yaroslav, president zelenskyi during the conference on the restoration of ukraine in berlin, called for investments and assistance to kyiv to restore the energy sector. let's listen to what the president of ukraine said? it was destroyed as a result of the strikes of russian missiles and drones. already 9 gigawatts of capacity, despite the fact that the peak of energy consumption in ukraine last winter was 18 gigawatts, so half of it does not exist now, in the shorter term, we must also implement a quick and inexpensive restoration of all energy facilities that can be restored now, until winter, it's so important, until

the winter in the next... three or four months, we know how to ensure that, from we are asking you for equipment from your, by the way, stopped power plants and direct financial support, this will allow us to react to the situation here and now. according to zelenskyi, ukraine , with the help of its partners, plans to build up to 1 gas-fired power generation this year and 4 more in the coming years. mr. oleksandr, does this mean that this issue of recovery and recovery in ukraine will also be central in the verkhovna rada and in the government, because it seems that pre-investors, it is clear that the president of ukraine stated that such help is needed, but as

events will develop, what, what will the government do and what will it do. does the president of ukraine obviously still need an explanation within the state? well, of course, this is a question of the survival of the country, the survival of our economy and people. we remember what the last winter was like, how difficult it was, and we are on the threshold of a new land that can be even more difficult. but, verkhovna rada, legislators are trying to do everything possible, precisely as legislators, in order to... protect the country in this regard restore our energy potential, because it is literally about human survival. thank you, mr. oleksandr. sir styslav, do you think that in the current situation, after all, the current team should announce the creation

of a government of national unity, because the situation is critical enough, we see that it is already flying, that we have problems with electricity supply, and obviously these this story will be long, and not one month, and not one year, when we will renew our energy. opportunities, whether in this situation the solution is to create a wide one political coalition, you constantly talk about the fact that we should all unite, everyone should unite, and then it turns out that you actually want to unite, you are not really there and this broad coalition is waiting for you, look, of course, european solidarity advocates the creation of a broad coalition of victory and a government of national unity and salvation, and among other things... last year , independent experts and journalists began to talk about this, offering the politicians themselves such a way out, based on the experience, well, not only of israel, because about it's just popular because it's on

in our eyes, but this is actually a formula for democratic countries, in order to , again, what the european parliament tells us, to unite and use all the opportunities and resources of ukraine so that all experts, all forces are thrown at one. for victory, because we are at war, we need to survive and win, and after all, we had the experience of february march 22 , when the advisers of the office went somewhere and did not interfere, and again colleagues, i think, will confirm here that this there was a time of consensus democracy, when we simply argued to our heart's content, discussed decisions in a format various working groups there, conciliation councils. further, there was no unity in the hall, because everything was discussed, everything was brought together, and you know, the main part of these decisions works to this day, because they were actually taken

in order for the country to live, and we strongly urge you to use this experience and now. the second story, you know, today is another seven years since the start of visa-free work, yes, visa liberalization. i remember that before it became possible, from 15 to 17, both the government and... and the verkhovna rada and the then president worked over the plan and 144 very specific points from the introduction of biopassports to the creation of anti-corruption infrastructure, and this gave a concrete result. now we have approved, agreed, yes, on the plan for the introduction of the ucraine facility, also what my colleagues said, the plan to help ukraine, but this again requires this unification of all resources and all forces, and that's why here, sorry, servants. should stop pretending that they have a monomajority, this has not been the case for a long time, an adhoc coalition of various forces works, depending on what issues are considered, but during the conciliation

council, the representative of the servant of the people says: we will not consider it, we have a formal majority of votes, so no veto, we will not consider everything and the issues are dropped, this must stop, the spirit of november must be restored, i apologize for february march in the 22nd year, it is desirable, of course, without the conditions that existed then. and the conclusion of this should be the formation of this unity government, which would combine the capabilities of all political forces, and this will definitely contribute to our victory. thank you, mr. rostislav, rostyslav pavlenko, yaroslav yurchyshyn and oleksandr mereshko were guests of our program today. gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program. i would like to remind our tv viewers that throughout our broadcast we conducted a survey and asked you about whether it is acceptable to criticize the government during the war. let's look at the results. television survey, 91% yes, 9% no. on the youtube channel, we also have a survey going on, actually ending, 90% yes, and 10% no.

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the news editors are ready to talk about the most important things. at this hour, i'm on javamelink, greetings to all viewers of espresso. officially from the general staff on the night of june 12 forces defense forces of ukraine hit the russian anti-aircraft missile division in the temporarily occupied crimea. hits were confirmed near belbek and sevastopol. as a result of the attack, two radars of the s-300 and s-400 complexes were destroyed. they also recorded the detonation of ammunition (information).