how to negotiate with the same event, because this is ultimately more important to him than playing confrontation. i have already mentioned this meeting of the brics foreign ministers in nizhny novgorod, and obviously, obviously, in this meeting, it was about the fact that the brics and the countries that are included in it, well, apart from india, which india will be represented at the global peace summit, and this already confirmed. putin is trying to create a certain coalition of states and hold an alternative peace summit or talk about this peace, because the president of brazil luis inacio lula da silva, in a telephone conversation with putin, he supported the proposal to organize peace talks with the participation of russia and ukraine, that is... he is trying

to create the illusion that he wants peace talks, but he does not say that he wants peace talks on your own terms, mr. serhiy, well, look, if we talk about brics, here russia, in my opinion, as that interofficer widow carved herself, they have now thrown into the world the thesis that look, brics is, apparently.. . a powerful force that embraces there it is not known how many billions of the population there are and so on and so on and so on, and let's join, some joined, but what happened in nizhny novgorod now, they could not agree on any foreign policy declaration, where it was said that they are speaking a united front and so on, why, well, because there are just two such small countries, one is called china, the other is india and... which are like

a cat and a dog, and this means that there will be no unity there by definition, but russia now finds herself in a situation where she has declared that it will be the new navel of the earth, it is unraveling, and nothing that she planned for herself will actually happen, that is, you see, you can model different and build different structures, but they are not... viable, because they are not about united by one goal, each of these countries, brics members, has its own interests, its own ideas about the future and so on, and it will be almost impossible to reduce them to a pile of anti-ukrainian and anti-western rhetoric, so let's talk about brics speak as just another the construction of russia, which in reality did not justify itself. mr. volodymyr, we would like to remind our

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volodymyr, one important event happened with these the other day, for four days, europeans voted and formed a new european parliament, russia is already rubbing its hands, saying that the radicals and the radical right in europe are winning, that scholz and her macron lost, macron announced early elections to the french national assembly, and it is clear that in this situation, russians want to see what is not there. and they already want macron to resign and are already dispersing this thesis, both russian and pso, that after these elections to the national assembly, macron promised to resign if his party lost to lipin, but he refused to resign he refused, so now these elections to the european parliament. what they testified, that is,

russia hoped in vain that there would be this indignation inside europe, because europe helps ukraine so much, which you know, unfortunately. i am forced to read all this, all this writing, which goes on these telegram channels, i listen, but not always, frankly speaking, i am already tired of this horror that goes on these central channels, tv channels, well, you know, there is yaroslavna’s cloak, that is, that these expectations they placed on were clearly anti-european. strength and so on further, they have grown even a little in some countries, but within the framework of the whole of europe they have not advanced anywhere, this coalition of populists, socialists and liberals, it still stands, you know, on such powerful foundations, and

this will all mean that the european parliament will be so himself, as he was, i.e. european, pro-ukrainian and anti-russian, and this is what pisses them off the most that... they did not come true, so you can say that there in austria, well, the party of such a former ultra-nationalist and radical, already deceased, such yorgel, she gained more now so we can talk about the fact that the alternative for germany has now given up a little, so to speak, of interest, although, by the way, some people are already boiling, they say, it should be called not... just an alternative for germany, but putin's alternative for germany, that is, something like that to make, well, real real, give a real assessment of what is, yes, there is france, but look, in the same germany, none of

the political forces, and they have already spoken about it publicly, will not take this adf into a coalition, in france, well, we know the construction. political the construction of the french republic, the president is responsible for defense and security and foreign policy, whether the prime minister wants it or not, yes, of course, there may be some disputes, but the line that is taken by the president, it will be drawn, and here no no no no one must be too great a prognosticator to understand that the foreign policy, if it will be the one that macron is currently forming. then it will not change without regard to who will be the prime minister there, well, we hear now, in principle, about the prime minister of france, well , to be honest, i forgot a long time ago, to be honest already as his last name, well, because he does not play the role that the president plays, well, also in other countries, although

look, well, it would seem like italy, well, the head of the government, as if from the right-wing party, but she mine is one of the most... active political figures who help ukraine, that is, everything depends on many factors, i think that this is another attempt by the kremlin to present something that is not really there. by the way, hungarian prime minister viktor orban said in an interview with the m1 channel that he was satisfied with the results of the elections to the european parliament. because, in his opinion, it will help to slow down or stop the increasingly rapid slide of european politicians into war. let's hear what orbán said. it was possible to slow down this train, and it is possible to stop it, because in france, which was the country that most decisively advocated the war, a real political earthquake occurred. early parliamentary elections have already been scheduled there, since the supporters of peace won with such a huge force and a large number of votes.

if the pro-peace parties can win the parliamentary elections, then i will i think we will win in the first half. orban is here. clarified those, as he said, parties that advocate peace with putin, and there can be no peace with putin, because putin is a great criminal of the 21st century, a thief who commits his crimes on the territory of ukraine, and orban is trying to to say black, simple. well, mr. sery, i think that we should gradually forget about the chosen one, by the way, although his party became the first, in my opinion, it won 46% of the votes, but he is already on his heels, he is coming competitor, there is such a young politician, until recently, a member of his team, who knows everything that is done inside, that's how he got 30% of the votes, and

this despite the fact that his party was formed literally a few months ago, so i think that the next parliamentary elections may be the last for orbán, at least there is a possibility, if this mr. magyar and the rest of the opposition unite, then i think that orbán's chances would be... less and less, that is, you know, this public, which is dependent on moscow, it cannot be otherwise, but well, that stoltenberg has now agreed with him that he, oman, will not interfere with ukraine's accession to nato, and i think that the same and the same formula will now be agreed with regard to the european union, and we, of course, are not angry people. yyatny, but such a friendly position in quotation marks... we will really remember hungary, by the way, we can now listen to what jens stoltenberg said about

how hungary will not participate in nato's decisions regarding ukraine, but it will not to block them, let's listen to the secretary general of nato. prime minister orbán made it clear that hungary will not participate in this nato effort, and i accept this position, no hungarian... will participate in this activity, and no hungarian finances will be used to support it. at the same time, the prime minister assured me that hungary will not be against these efforts and will allow other allies to move forward. well, you know, the formula that hungary will allow, well , it seems kind of abnormal to me, well , to be honest, next to orbán, he couldn't say that orbán would go for coffee on... well, you know, well, but, but anyway some, well, i'm not

i know, impetuousness, if you like, before it is unknown, it is not known who, or rather, i think, everyone knows who, but you still have to have your own dignity in the same way to the same general secretary and the like, that is, some formulas after all, it is better to choose those who are self-affirming and really worthy, because it is about... about a huge number of nato countries that agree with one, far from more powerful country that it will not block, well, they agreed, thank god, but i think that it is necessary in nato to think, because the very formula that orbán is promoting says that we are in nato, but only a little, that is, here we work here, here we don't work, here i want, and there i don't want, well , excuse me, well, in the european union the same. that is, you either work in a team according to team rules, well, or then you leave this team,

well, you cannot play in this team in the interests of another team, moreover , criminal teams, well, you have to talk about it just as frankly, but you know , our european friends, they are so delicate and intelligent that they cannot help themselves allow us to put such a clear , well... clear hand of the kremlin in its place, to be honest, it surprises me, i don't know, it seems that this will have to be put an end to in europe someday, stoltenberg, excuse me, said that , that hungary will not take part in nato's decisions regarding ukraine, but what nato decisions regarding ukraine may be adopted, well , it is obviously about tomorrow's meeting of the council of ukraine. and about the upcoming alliance summit in washington, what does stoltenberg talk about, what are the decisions? on

attracting personnel, on military aid, about the financing and training of our, well , representatives of our defense forces and so on and so forth, that is, it is a huge job, but hungary defiantly says, no, i will not help ukraine, i say, well, somewhere there... we will leave it in the notes this position, and when ukraine becomes a member of the european union and nato, well, i think we will remember. stoltenberg says that every year nato helps ukraine to the tune of $40 billion and will continue to do so. let's listen to the gensak of the alliance. from the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia in 2022 year, the allies provide annually. military support to the country in the amount of about 40 billion euros. we must maintain this

level of support for as long as it takes to secure additional funding each year. strong, long-term support sends a clear message to president putin that he cannot wait us out. mr. volodymyr, will the nato summit in july send a clear signal to putin that he will not wait? nato, and nato will do as it wants, firstly, as an alliance, and secondly, as an independent one wants a state that applies for accession and starts with... the path there regarding nato accession, because, to be honest, last week i was somewhat touched by president biden, who said that he is against the natovization of ukraine, although in fact the natovization of ukraine has already has been happening for a long time, and we see that we are now probably much closer to nato than we were all these

30 years ago, well, you see, this was a statement made when uh... biden allowed american weapons to be struck on russian territory, i i think it was a kind of, you know, pill-popping, with sweetener, that is, well, we allowed it, but we don't talk about ukraine in nato, well, my god, you can say whatever you want, as long as the frog doesn't croak loudly and stops swinging his nuclear stick once again and... saying that tomorrow we are going to burn warsaw or berlin or paris there, so i think that these statements should be treated quite calmly, and the main thing is to get powerful additional support in washington at this jubilee anniversary summit and, well, at least some certain formal things related to however

, as it was in the context of the european of the union, here you are... the guys there, well, there are a few 3-4-five points that you should bring to the fore and after that we will start negotiations, well , i think that somewhere it will go in the same way, so to speak , that no, we, we, we, we, no, we do not start negotiations, but at the same time to say, well, literally do one more time, two or three times, what has probably already been done a long time ago, and then we we will start these processes in six months, and in these six months, i think, mr. serhiy, a lot will... change, but i have already spoken and written about it several times, there is a feeling that in these six months, somewhere until october november, we will be happy for one big, one big event that will take place in the south, and now we are witnessing that this process is happening

point by point so far, and with each subsequent day it will have a more and more systemic character, i mean crimea, which... will gradually be cut off from russia, and then the question will arise before this criminal, well, either release him, well, demonstrate a gesture of goodwill once again, or cross him on this whole, on this whole grouping of troops, because it will be destroyed, and if or rather when it happens, then... questions about all the following political things, i think, will be taken much faster, another event that is happening literally before our eyes, this is the formation of the so-called sanitary zone, but already on the other side of the border in the territory, he wanted a sanitary zone, so let him, that's what he says one day about the fact that we allowed the ukrainians to strike 200 miles deep, that is

320 km, and obviously that too. one of the options for how security can be arranged later ukraine, as for the russians, well, we will not get anywhere from these neighbors, they will always be by our side anyway, maybe this is a 200 or 300 km zone, maybe this is one of the options for arranging this, here i do not agree with you, although you and i always stick to the same line, i think that security will be when this country does not become, let me be criticized for this and considered too radical, but as long as this country is from the baltic to the pacific ocean, and it will be have nuclear weapons, neither we nor the west will have 100% security, so i think that the best option is the disintegration of this

country under international control, its denuclearization, demilitarization, and the creation of a certain number of countries on... the post-russian territory, which will eventually , certainly not immediately, gradually transform into something similar to the civilized world, maybe a couple of generations will pass, well, but for history it is a small, small, as they say, time intervals, so if the geography also becomes the same, then muscovy will be formed, which this war criminal putin talks about with horror, so it will be muscovy, because that is what it is... exists, but there will also be opportunities for other peoples understood by this muscovy to say that... we want to live an independent life, we have all the economic and other opportunities for this, why no, that is, you believe in a black swan that will fly in and destroy there

, no, i believe in the objective course of history, the same objective course that buried the soviet union, the same objective course of history will also bury russia, because it is a spike on clay feet, and you just have to find a pain point now to hit and... you know, like a bridge, they say that there is one point in the bridge that holds the whole structure, but this structure will collapse as soon as we find this point, i think that the liberation of crimea will be the beginning of the end. well, i think the liberation of crimea will be accelerated when the f-16s get to us. the minister of defense in the netherlands, kaisa olongren, said in an interview with ukrainian pravda that her country... will already hand over the first fighter jets to ukraine this summer. let's hear what she said. there will be more and more planes, and this will strengthen yours

air force i can't name the date, so i say: this summer. we are following this plan now. at the same time, first you will receive planes from denmark. we will be after denmark, but this is a joint plan. well, actually, answers to the question of when crimea will be. the peninsula will turn into an island, because if f-16 aircraft and long-range weapons appear 200 miles by 320 km, this is just the crimean bridge, and in fact history will repeat itself, because the russian army and the russian navy have more than once fled to the sea and drowned there, well, i don't know mr. serhiy, will the heroic sinking of russian ships be repeated in the war , many have already been sunk there. drowned, well, i don’t know if they will succeed now, maybe there simply won’t be anything to drown, that’s why this heroic drowning may not even happen, but i think that the combination of all

these things is really a plus, well, at the first stage , the implementation of the concept of sanitary zones only on the other side of the border, all this will have devastating consequences for russia, and despite the fact that now there... well, this criminal kharahori is talking there about his plans, about the fourth russia's place in terms of economic development, listen, it's not even funny anymore, i think that the combination of all these things, and it's very good that our colleagues, well, actually, this is the point of no return, it's just october-november 24th, well, you know, once a big russian in the pews... scientist lomanosov said that the power of russia will increase in siberia, so here i am, if

you rephrase it, you can say that the collapse of russia in crimea will increase, and this is true yes, because it's sacred to them, it's fantastic to them, and so on and so forth, as soon as crimea will fall, there will simply be a chain reaction when this happens. today no one can say exactly how many post-russian countries there will be, but the main thing is that the process begins. on this optimistic note, mr. volodymyr, we will end our conversation. thank you for the conversation, it was volodymyr ogrysko, politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-9. friends, during our broadcast, we conduct a survey, we ask you about whether you support the idea of ​​economic reservation from mobilization. let's look at the interim results of the survey, please on the screen. yes 59% no, these are the results of a television survey, the same survey will be in the second part of our program, news from

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