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those delays in deliveries that we have seen in the previous months, so ms. ivano, jen stoltenberg said an important thing about predictability and ukraine, and that this accountability is there, does anyone have any doubts about what, what our western partners say, or he just decided preventively about it to say? well, believe me, politicians of such a... level as the secretary general of nato, they do not speak preemptively, something from themselves, and precisely express a political component right there, agreed with the vast majority, at least of the member countries of the alliance, and at least those key players who provide us with this military aid in a serious amount, so ukraine should take these bells seriously and behave accordingly. so
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that we can ensure this uninterrupted supply of weapons where we cannot produce them ourselves, cannot buy them ourselves, cannot purchase them in some other countries, but you also know, this is a good thing that now it is said that it is 40-50 billion, this amount sounds as if the countries should agree among themselves and provide annually as part of rammstein. us weapons, but i would like to to remind that stoltenberg's initiative was initially about 100 billion, we see that there is no such readiness, no such appetite, and here we still need to work very seriously on this, it is not a given, the help of our partners, despite the fact that it is really real very serious, despite the fact that for the first time in the history of our general struggle we are not alone in this struggle for... for many, many centuries,
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and we are seriously and systematically helped, but in order to maintain the level of support and increase it, we you have to have trust, that the defining currency that ukraine should operate with today, and when it comes to constant, well, constant corruption scandals, any obstacles to the work of this or that agency. or about the impossibility of building this or that system of work or about issues with anti-corruption bodies, it is obvious that this trust is being lost every day, it is very easy to lose, but very difficult to gain. the ukrainian people have gained this trust, so the government's task is not to erode this trust and not to fail the ukrainian society, which is so, so... left and right
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sincerely fights for his own survival, for his freedom and for his opportunities to have and decide his own future. mrs. ivano, today the meeting of the big seven is taking place, the leaders of the group of seven countries have reached an agreement to allocate 50 billion dollars to ukraine by using frozen russian assets, and we are not talking about the confiscation of russian assets abroad, but about about interest from these assets, and why do you think our western partners are so cautious about this with regard to russian assets and do not arrest all russian assets for the benefit of ukraine, or is this interest the first step to this? well, i really want to calculate that these percentages from frozen russian assets, this is really the first step, there are a large number of lawyers, foreign, western... lawyers who prove
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that there are options for confiscating these assets entirely within the framework of international law of the russian federation, and this should not lead to the undermining of any financial system in the same european countries, or to break the trust of other countries that keep funds on the territory of the european union or in other countries of the western world. but at the same time , we have a large number of those who are re-insuring and who, well, maybe somewhere is counting on the fact that somehow it will be resolved somehow and it is not necessary for us to risk such a serious decision when sovereign, for example, assets of the state, terrorists, it seemed would just be a black and white situation, can be... witnessed and
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transferred for use for the needs of a country that is a victim of a country that suffers from the aggression of a terrorist country, but also some very. i am worried about how our western companies that have remained working in russia will feel, and for some reason they have, as they say, the russians will then start confiscating them, and for some reason no one is talking about the fact that the russians have long, long ago or they confiscate, or they put pressure on them in such a way that they are forced to sell them on the spot or hand them over to the russian federation for no reason, well, in fact, this is again a question of money, of course, but also of morals, why these... companies are in conflict they continue to work there with sanction restrictions decide for themselves to stay in the aggressor country, pay taxes in the aggressor country and thus support its military economy. there are many questions, but i really want
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to expect that when we see already such a greater willingness of the united states to take the lead in this process of confiscation of assets, that they will still manage to find. a common language with the countries of the european union and move from purely using percentages of frozen assets to the assets themselves in favor of ukraine. among the issues that president zelensky is solving today in italy, where the meeting of the leaders of the group of seven summit of the big seven is taking place, this is the signing of security agreements with japan and the united states of america, with the prime minister of japan. "fumio kishidou has already signed the security agreement with zelensky, he announced this on social networks, which president zelensky writes: during the 24th year, japan will provide ukraine with 4.5 billion us dollars and support our state throughout the entire ten-year
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term of the agreement. assistance in the field of security and defense, cooperation in the humanitarian, technical and financial spheres, working together for the sake of implementation of the clauses of the peace formula, sanctions against. the aggressor and bringing him to justice, this also secures the condition signed today, and we are now waiting for zelenskyi and biden to actually sign the agreement, such a ten-year security agreement, and a joint press conference of zelenskyi and biden is to be held, but on the eve of the washington publication the post, with reference to officials of the united states of america, wrote that since the ten-year security agreement between ukraine and the united states, which zelenskyi and biden are planning to sign, will not be ratified by congress, any subsequent president of the united states can repeal it. well, this last, the last point and the last statement, apparently, from the first days
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of signing such agreements, it was written, and it was written about in the international press, in the western press, that these agreements, since they are not ratified by congresses and parliaments. that they are not so legally precise in terms of implementation, we will not ratify these agreements in the parliament either, right? yes, we will not ratify these agreements in parliament, and yes, unfortunately, well all the time we see the issuance of the desired implementation by our leadership of our country, these are not security agreements, these are in... about interaction, about cooperation, about providing support, really this and that element that they are not ratified means that on the condition of a major change in public sentiment within a country, politicians
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will follow that public sentiment if they do not show their leadership and readiness, and there their beliefs will not correspond to what they themselves have... for support of ukraine, therefore, you know, when i hear that in the security agreement with the united states, or rather the so-called security agreement with the united states, it will be written that when, or in the event of a new attack by the russian federation, ukraine will hold consultations with the united states, in order to decide how to act further, well, this is a direct reference to the budapest memorandum, in the budapest memorandum it was written on... that if any country violates something in relation to ukraine, to its territorial integrity, the countries will hold consultations, so we in 14- mu year, in march 14 of the year or at the end of february, these consultations were held and gathered, obviously the russian federation did not come there,
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well, they consulted and as a result received very weak sanctions, the first, the first sanctions, which are in response to the annexation of crimea. applied by the free world, and we remember how long we had to explain that this was no civil war, and no, no, you know, the miners didn't know. weapons in the mines in order to fight against the ukrainian armed forces, in fact we are dealing with aggression of the russian federation, so it seems to me that we should not engage in self-deception, and finally focus all our efforts only on what is and can be the only guarantee of our security, this is membership in nato, this is membership in the north atlantic alliance. thank you, ms. ivano, for you. for the conversation, it was ivanna klympush tsintsadze, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue
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subscribers. mr. roman, i congratulate you and urge all our viewers to subscribe to your channel, i am glad to see you on the air. thank you very much for this promotion, it is very, very nice. roman, let's start with the good news in moscow, how it is today, actually. what was the reaction to the sanctions of the united states of america, great britain in the capital, in the russian capital? yesterday, more than 30 individuals and more than 200 entities from russia and china were added to the us list of sanctions against russia, the united states department of the treasury announced that as part of the expansion of sanctions, the united states prohibits the provision of software and it services to any person on the territory of russia and, as us treasury secretary janet yellen said, we are increasing the risk to financial institutions
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institutions that deal with russia's military economy and eliminate avenues for tax evasion and reduce russia's ability to benefit from access to foreign technology, equipment, software, and it services. in addition, mosgorbank, sberbank, financial and insurance institutions were on the list there. horses, well, the shares of these companies fell, the dollar fell to 100 rubles, queues lined up at exchange offices and the yuanization of russia began, that is, how do you perceive the technology of our western partners, this principle of salami, you know, during the soviet union, when everything was cut off, cut off, cut off, and in... as a result, the united states of america actually got the result, well, here, perhaps
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, it is the sanction regarding the moscow stock exchange that is important, after all the story is cool, the cool thing is that the american battering ram comes out, it was strong, heavy and painful, and everything remains, the question is how the american government uses it now. everyone is objectively hurt, here the question arises, of course, what are the people who vote 146% for putin rushes to buy up the currency of enemy states, well, this is a very cool story in general, agree that everyone says that it is necessary to burn the united states with a nuclear bomb and , in fact, europe in the same way, but when it comes to babuletics, then for some reason this desire disappears and... so that to save their savings, they are going to buy something not in yuan, globally, this
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situation looks to me like putin, well, you know, well, in reality, it seems that he was recruited somewhere in beijing at some stage, that is, to make a fairly large state completely like that, well, i don’t i know, completely subordinated comrades, it's just a fantastic... thing, and i like the propaganda part, how they started to erase this place where vladimir putin is sitting, only not for him, but for china. in general and accordingly, comrades, all these are all phrases about the fact that the 5,000-year history of china is under the hood, that they are so cool, that they conquer everyone, whoever they want, and it looks very, very like that, well, it's just humiliating to me in principle, because they
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certainly haven't gotten that far before this, although it was expected, let's face it, that is, we... that's all they were waiting for china to get its dividends, and here it is just in the current situation, the yuan is replacing the dollar, i think that the russians have finally seen through and understood what is happening, although your good friend maria zakharova, the spokeswoman of the russian ministry of foreign affairs, promised a decisive russia's response to new sanctions from the west, let's hear what maria said. such a step will not lead the event to anything good, it is an illegal initiative related to pumping the kyiv regime with money at someone else's expense, threatens the final imbalance of the financial system and devastating crises. in addition, european property and monetary resources of russia, as you know,
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representatives of our government have repeatedly said about this, are enough, and there will be inevitable retaliatory measures for brussels. here, maria talked not only about this, but also about 50 billion frozen interest from russian assets, and when maria zakharova says that this is an illegal initiative, you just want to sob, because the country that destroyed the entire world order that was established after the second world war world war, which was waiting for... all international conventions, on the right of people in ukraine, and simply turned into a murderous state, they still talk about some illegal initiatives, what, what else can they say, what, what can they do, roman, well, given the hysterical nature zakharova
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and the unpredictability of the same putin or medvedev, and they don't have that much. steps, this is, firstly, in principle at the state level, and secondly, zakharova and i, well, yes, we are acquaintances, but we have not been friends for a long time, and with great advantage we have never been, but what she says, it's just once again, in my opinion, it should demonstrate to the western world that to transfer its production, to expand the demand there, knocked down there and so on, you have to think very well about where you are doing it, what she, they , they are threatening to take away the western factories that have been built over the years, you can be calm here, it will work for a while, then without renewal, without appropriate service from the westerners there, including it specialists, it simply will not
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return to one great point, but i still wonder how uh... how much they are well, the decision regarding the war with us was made impulsively, that is, putin, and his decision, attention, was to place more than 300 billion dollars and euros in the west, that is, in nato, and it doesn’t seem to you, serhiy, that this is somehow illogical, on the one hand side, again threats, threats, threats, then a significant part of the russian reserves is placed right there in the european one. union, it seems to me that they are a little bit crazy in their heads, to be honest, and i like these cries that this is the money of russian grandmothers and grandfathers, but russian grandmothers and grandfathers want let's just say one thing, pray that you are not killed during hostilities, and money, well, excuse me, well, this is again
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vladimir putin's superior aerobatics when the war against russia is being waged. money, yes, for this money, which will be transferred, of course, under the control of international institutions, its salaries will be paid to our military, well, and on and on and on, why am i focusing on the military, there, well, of course, there is more of this outstanding article , because they are the ones who destroy russians and kill russians for russian money, well to a certain extent, it's... it's like that in the geopolitical aspect, well, you're just convinced once again that putin is just a crazy idiot, sorry, beyond any doubt, i have that too. this impression is created if two people have the same impression and the same opinion, obviously it is so, let's talk about ukrainians, there is a survey of the kyiv
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international institute of sociology that was made public, and it says that according to this survey, 60, 60 % of ukrainians believe that russia's ultimate goal in relation to ukraine is genocide and the destruction of the ukrainian nation, only 7% believe... that the aggressor seeks to keep the already occupied territories for himself and does not actually claim all or most of the territories of ukraine. frankly speaking, i cannot understand why, during a full-scale war , only 60% of ukrainians believe that russia's ultimate goal in relation to ukraine is genocide and the destruction of the ukrainian nation. it would seem that these are obvious things that should be clear to 99% of ukrainians, why do you think 40% are hesitant or, let's say, not yet convinced that the russians have come here
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destroy us? well, you know, for all these years, what has been happening since the 14th year, and if a person did not understand something, then he is an idiot, but again, in any society there is a certain percentage of people who, well , that is, so that it does not happen, you know, this is even the case with political technologists, when they promote a certain candidate, they are known there, they always know that there are 10%, they are the ones who, so that it does not happen, they will always be in favor of it candidate, and there are 10% who will be against it, even if it doesn't happen if he there, i don't know, there will be either honey to eat, or children, anyway, well, their position will not change, well, i still... i think here too, well , up to 10% of people, well, they are like that, they eat them russian soldiers will hang them on a lantern and
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they will think, well, this is probably a mistake , nothing in heaven, they will figure out what is our place to talk about social polls, but in this way , you know that we have 40% of the population. adequately perceives the situation, well, i don't think so, these social surveys, you know, it's also such a thing, you could ask about it later to several questions and we could get a different and different answer and it would not be so striking, but i believe that here are other polls that say that... 90% are in favor of the return of all ukrainian territories , and actually this says that we are all right with the information, the fact that it is such a mix of these and our problems and there is
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mobilization, well, the war, the time is scary, and for some these fears are a little bit, well, somehow some kind of moron is in the head , but at the same time , no one wants... to have a russian in his city occupation boot, if we were to add this to this question, about which we are now discussing the social survey, for example, here it seems to me that these numbers were more adequate and relevant, but absolutely, well, if in the same survey such people-cosmonauts who even want denazification there. of the militarization of ukraine, yes, there are only 5.5% of them, so this is my theory, it seems to me, corresponds to this, so
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it is a little strange in the survey, i understand it, but i do not think that we have any hair on our side here collect, and simply it is necessary to tell us, journalists, what they are doing, and of course, against the background of the support he had at the time. in ukraine, remember, in the mid-2000s it was there, the level of support in ukraine was somewhere around 56% or 60, well, quite high, yes, considering that it was, well, literally 20 years ago or 19 years therefore, it looks like ukraine has taken a big step away from russia, from putin, because we also had a party supporting putin, you remember, in 2006 they... took part in the parliamentary elections, and they got 0.32% , or 1, 0.32, they got in sevastopol, only in sevastopol they
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got it, but this party... was officially registered in ukraine, and this is also, in principle, an indicator of the current state and the past, how far we have gone from them and moved away from them, yes, actually, you understand , that what we have as a result, i even, well , the numbers are all clear, you can discuss here, you can not discuss, the fact remains that vladimir putin and the russian people... and that is, all russians, they are conducting a policy of de-russification of ukraine, this is happening on before our eyes, and the destruction of cities with people who, well, in theory they could, and the elections always showed, were loyal to the russian federation, what russia is doing to them, it is killing them, well, not only them, they
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are absolutely systemic in this regard, they don't care. in russian sociology, well, excuse me for this phrase, but they still periodically try to publish some figures, but today i came across a figure of 58%. russians understand why putin is conducting a special military operation in ukraine, and to be honest , this figure surprised me, russians could write 88 or 98%. all the same, how is the attitude of russians to the war against ukraine changing, because russian sociology is just as lying as the current leader of russia, and like everyone
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else. is trying to publish some numbers, is russian society changing with the war? and the main criterion is the following: the fact that they do not mind killing us is clear in the overwhelming majority, of course, there are 10% of russians, i think ironically, who are currently there, who do not accept all this, well, you can too to discuss, well in within the framework of this concept, which i spoke about, and... the rest of them - let's say, occupy such a position, they look down, do not look up, do not look anyone in the eye, the war, my friends tell me, that means when russians meet russians for table, various topics, there is no war at all, they simply ignore it, pretend that it does not exist, but what is the criterion, why do they change, here it is more and more bells and whistles that the russian army does not have enough meat and... more and
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more people are saying that there will be a mobilization in them, putin says that it will not happen, and the russian kirmanych, well, very often disagrees, i will say diplomatically, whether it was wanted differently, that’s why they change, the question is that the russians, they do not influence the decision in any way , which are adopted there, because they think to themselves there, well, it seems to me that we should broadcast the following thesis: ah, we are your dear, temporarily, disrespectfully, temporarily aggressive neighbors, in ukraine you have two options: leave or die, here, this is where i begin to reach, well, within the framework of this, if anyone does not quickly left, starts flying over russian territory, well, let's just record that even for us ukrainians,
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we have to finish burning some plane, thank you. roman, i'm sorry, it was a verdict program about serhii rudenko, goodbye. frozen russian billions, security agreements, money for the restoration of the ukrainian energy industry. the summit of the g7 started in italy . the war in ukraine is in the center. meetings and what to expect, we will analyze in today's bbc issue, i am olga palomaryuk. the largest part of the world economy, that's how the countries are called group of seven gathered in italy, there are many issues to discuss, the summit will last two days, there are many participants, the leaders of the countries and governments of the g7, italy, france, germany, great britain, canada, japan, and the usa, joe biden also flew in, this and the president.

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