complicated enough because of this layering, i think we need to find a compromise on this issue, we need to find a compromise on many issues, because this is not one issue, there are a number of issues here, er, i think we will sit down at the table soon time with the government and we will look for other questions that need to be answered, well , let's say on the 16th-17th, according to the cabinet of ministers' decision , the right of citizens of ukraine abroad who left before the war ends. who need to update their data, otherwise what is included in it the repressive mechanism, those who left and got permanent residence there, permanent residence for 5, 10, 15 years left long before the war, but they are citizens of ukraine, they came here, some of them have to process their data, as the cabinet of ministers says, the resolution, they say, and the tsc says we can't process you, we need an infection code, but they don't have one, not everyone has an infection code, not everyone has an id, because they've been living

abroad for 10, 15 years... and we're losing citizens of ukraine , so that it does not turn out that we will lose even more citizens of ukraine due to such approaches, which today demonstrates whether it is our government, that is why we are waiting for a rather deep, i think, even a tough discussion, all in the parliament and in the agreed councils, which when we will analyze the various documents that will be presented to us, therefore the issue of reservation, economic defense is a deeply discussed question, and so far i am not sure that there are votes for... it is in the parliament. we have heard the politicians, but we want to hear mr. plekhov. well, what do you want to point out? well, first of all, why do you need a mobilization system at all? yes, there is a system mobilization, reservation. that is, we need, first of all, according to our principles and tasks, to ensure the formation of the personnel of the armed forces of ukraine. the first goal. the second goal is to ensure smooth production of everything. what is needed for

the armed forces of ukraine. the third issue, we need to revive the economy of the country so that the economy does not just die, we need taxes so that we have some sustainable development and the ability to also produce what is needed for our defense, and the fourth, we it is necessary to satisfy society's demand for justice, but there are four main issues that we express during mobilization, during reservation and other things. the first question, well , i say that in principle. the very term economic harrowing is a failure of communication by society in general, that is, it looks simply like a redemption from any mobilization, yes, that is, if we take it in fact, what it is, it is a military levy, and then the first question that i have arises, that is, what is a military levy and where does it go, do you think it goes to some special fund for the account of which we pay the salaries of military personnel, no, it goes to the state budget of ukraine, yes, for military purposes, well, to the general budget. of ukraine, and we know

what can be done with the state budget in our country today, yes, therefore, if we try to answer this question at all, let's say what we want, we want to receive additional funds, or start the economy today, because it can in order to obtain additional funds for the needs of the armed forces of ukraine, let's reduce the expenditures on the state apparatus, a huge amount officials, ministers, assistants of people's deputies, and we will simply find the funds in other places, if we... want to revive the economy, then the issue of mobilization must be clearly and legally demarcated, it is indeed necessary, but not in the case that we can ban anyone who pays 20,000 . let's take a small business that employs 12 people, yes, which conventionally generates an annual turnover of 50 million there. what is this, the gross domestic product, this is the economy, yes, it has income. let's say what on this one amount of domestic product'. we can

allow you to book one or two people there, yes, depending on the total number of employees and the number of products produced, yes, so please, we take a company, we formalize 500 people, it is zero, and it just books all its people for 2000, then we take another group, we are conditionally taking suppliers of organizations that are contractors of organizations that work in the defense industry, and we will reduce the quota by roughly 5 million to one. booked, yes we can also consider booking by defenders, i can say that it really looks wild sometimes, you know that today, you can easily take the company today, get the contact of the ministry of defense, officially kick it out, but it is transparent about the supply of anything from china, there are socks, relatively speaking , and after all, you are a supplier of the ministry of defense, you have the right to reservation according to the full, one hundred percent quota, yes, that is, we do not analyze the issue of inclusion. in state contracts, the word manufacturer

is ukraine, but we are the same, that is, from my point of view, if we use it reservation, it should be, on the one hand, available to almost all enterprises of ukraine. times, depending on the gross product and the benefit they bring, while indeed this tax, this, the military tax must be directed to a separate fund, at the expense of which can be used only for the payment of military personnel, and only for this, for the sole purpose, only for the payment of military personnel, yes, at the expense of which to raise their payments on the first line, well, at the same time, this tax must be paid by everyone, including defense companies, i will tell you this, if the biz... can generate an internal product, gross product, it's efficient, it's efficient, and it can pay these additional taxes, well, i think the business is okay with that, if the business isn't efficient, yeah, it doesn't have a product there in general, someone quietly deposits financial assistance into the cash register, yes, that is, then such

a tax is paid, well, why isn’t it a business anymore, it’s just a buy-out mobilization, so let’s just have our main directions, we have our goal, let’s somehow... let's sum it up, let's not just say that we will collect 300 billion from people simply in some incomprehensible way, it will simply be a bribe to the state, the legalization of corruption, somehow we wrote that in the comments, there are also such opinions, mr. pavlyuk, look, there is a problem, as we said before, that mobilization and reservation , we can't- we can't understand, i, for example, can't understand one thing, we have a regional military administration, representatives of the cabinet of ministers, the head of the administration, a person who was not... not called up to the army yet, he goes through the vlk there , goes through all these procedures, he is a civilian, he is not military duty, he is not a military duty, but not a military man, when he took the oath, he already becomes a military man, he is subject exclusively to all laws and all instructions of the military there, why should not

the head of the regional military administration deal with mobilization and reservation , they have to do it, and when they are so prescribed by the law, it should be like that, friend taras, it should be like that, because from where can they give too much money. they grab people, it shouldn't be like that, it should be done by at the moment, until a citizen becomes a soldier, civilians should deal with it, and the police should deal with it, and this should also be corrected, the same with booking, he looks at what he has in the region, what enterprises he has, who he needs in this, so that this economy, decides its divorce, friends, i understand that, but there are others for that. law enforcement agencies, which will control these things, but can't, can't someone there, let's say a military man, know that he, what he needs, shouldn't be like that, the military is doing its work, and the civil administration must do its work, and then we will have order, we will not have this chaos, and we will not have those, beatings on the streets and the

like, and from the reservation there will be no such thing, then this this is a very stupid idea, they said it correctly, as in america, mr. klizhivskyi said, i will make it, what will people do tomorrow, i have money? i have redeemed myself, and you have not, you will go and fight for me, we must all fight, if necessary, all of us, but it must be reasonable, competent and according to the law, everything is done, let me, look, when we have the question of mobilization, when we have the question of reservation right after that, people may also have their own questions, because one thing followed the other, maybe it coincided, but... let's look at the philosophy of war in general. war is mathematics, economics and the ability to shoot the enemy. just a few days ago, i spoke with my colleague who is in the kharkiv direction. from their

battalion, which was formed in 22, 117 people remained, i.e. they were transferred to another brigade so that they others were supplemented. if we do not have people at the front, as requested by the armed forces, then our economy will fall into the hands of the enemy. on the other hand, we also have to understand that those who are on the front lines, if they don't... will get whatever the economy produces, they won't be able to shoot, again, a foreign army will come, and it's a very difficult balance, you have to to understand very clearly who should be defended first of all, who, well

, last of all, well, i am saying very cynical things now, but there are those without whom the economy, and the state will function without anyone , but if... we generally include such a mechanism: you give 2,000 per month, well then, well, when i heard it for the first time, i immediately thought about what it means... there is qualification for security, and this qualification is monetary, well, the fact that such a mechanism can be used, and it will bring, i don't remember who already said here in the studio, about 300 or maybe more billion hryvnias, and this is a resource, because we already lack money, i understand that, but there is no adequate communication with society, you know it, you remind me, if i remember the former... soviet monetary reform, where people were told to exchange what they could in three days,

and when the hryvnia was introduced, everyone believed in the hryvnia, because there was good communication that how much money you have, you can bring them, exchange them, there is no such logic of explanation, and this is where the problem is, and this is where people are afraid, i would like to support mr. podlisny. in the fact that we really have a catastrophic lack of communication, which leads to all the chaos that we see with mobilization, i listened to ms. kalmykova's speech today, the deputy minister of defense, and she told a very interesting figure, she said that through the recruitment centers, every third person voluntarily left for us, this is a lot, and she herself was surprised at how much it is, look, there are, there are recruitment centers, people were told , you can come, choose. profession, choose a part, and people left, these are not people who were forced there, and these are not people who were caught on the street,

right? social sociology shows that 50% of ukrainians are ready to defend their homeland, well , they mean those of a suitable age, men, although women are also ready to defend it, in poland it is 15%. that is, our society is ready to defend the homeland, but for this , it is necessary to explain to society that they are not being thrown at us, as people here say. on the streets, they took them on the street, gave them a grenade and threw them on a tank, you understand that we have a normal educational process, it exists, it must be explained, it must be told, that this is a normal duty, that people can calmly come and register , to prepare, what they are, when, if they are called to the army or are mobilizing, people must give each other some time, come home, collect things, calmly go to the people, we must treat them like citizens, we treat people like the occupying power. and that is why our government is failing mobilization because of this, not because of the state of society and not even because people

do not want to serve, but because people are put in such conditions, humiliating them, and it is absolutely pure, we do not need so much it takes a lot of people to invent something in the army, a squire once said 500 00 per year, umerov said that for the next three months there and other military leaders 150,000, with our mobilization resources, this is not so much as if there was a normal information company. which would show the effectiveness of training centers, recruiting centers, people would leave on their own, no one would catch people on the streets, because i am sometimes asked, and those who are fighting the fast in tsk, maybe some russian spies, they are not spies, were not put in each tsk of spies, although it looks like this, is a stupid and ill-conceived government policy. in short, i, too, i will simply react to the fact that mr mykola said, and they said to mr. myntsykh, you know, we really, you, mr. mykola, touched the living, in our... videos, they very often say that if russia comes here, no one will ask you whether or not you will

mobilize, and in fact we screwed ourselves with this, and well, here such a double information move is not in our direction, sneaky, you know, you noted it very well, do you remember levko lukyanenko, and also rafail yukhnovskyi used to say how the soviet army came, well, when they were already advancing, they came... they took no one they asked, will it be the same if we don't have that, well, a wild word of mobresurs, but look, the topic of those who left abroad was mentioned here, you know, those who left abroad a long time ago, they have some businesses or settled there, they send billions here, did they send euro-dollars to ukraine, this is our big financial resource there, let's say, and it's very good, but i would like to pay attention to those... which are not women and children, those men who will ram the net there, there are 32

people in transcarpathia, or in some other way even they approached me, listen, you are the former deputy head of the regional state administration, you probably still have connections, help in some way, you know, i want to send people and give them a compass so they don't get lost, but dare... the government, when the deputies start saying that this category should be refused consular services, and something else, if you think that this is not your country. you haven't been summoned yet, you haven't been given a summons, but you're already running away, and then you get angry, i've already been told by some people who have been living for a long time since 2008 border, they say, listen, they walk here, they are indignant, they ask our public organizations to go out and picket the consulate with us, because there will be such a thing that they will not

give us any service, and it seems to me, well, if you are not a citizen, you do not consider yourself a citizen, and the old idea... of madness, which arose in ancient times, meant that you take up arms, very often at your own expense, and go to war, then you are a citizen, and if you are a citizen only when you services are needed, and not a citizen, when there is danger, well, don't complain then, and then, you know, i want to say, here are my students, the department of political sciences, who voluntarily went to fight. the girls went to fight, the girl is 20 years old, she actually went to the front, and she also has a question, wait, i am a citizen, who is he then, that is, the question, but here is another question, why was it not possible to tell these people, not to treat them with respect and say, we need you, we give you

a month to come, check the data, mobilize if you are needed, huh? or they returned, if they were not needed, but no one told them this, in one day, moreover only a small part, because not everyone needs consular services, others already have their passports issued a long time ago, they are needed by those who want to renew their passports, this applies to the minimum, what it led to, it led to the fact that when we were told that it is possible remotely to update the data through the reserve system plus how many people from abroad updated them, 14 thousand, while 1.5 million did it in ukraine itself, because the actions of the state... i agree with you, i also think that they citizens, but they are citizens, and the state should treat them as citizens, and not like cattle, who, i’m sorry, were summoned from distant cities, because there are not everywhere konskolitsky centers to redo the documents, mr. knyazhytskyi, i mean those people who, let’s say, storm the yew there or in some other way, i’m talking about these , and these are definitely, here i completely agree with you, mytsik, we

promised you a long time ago, you were already so sad waiting for the word, eh... eh spoke, you correctly said the qualification for safety, eh, why is the majority of people in love she wants to leave the price, she cannot get it in any other way, she would never leave ukraine, she can't get it here legally, and she uses every illegal means possible. er, the reservation that exists today is decided by someone through corrupt structures, because it is fashionable now to get a job where there is a reservation. i recently heard that vodokanal booked a semshchik, well, you understand, that is, it happens, it all happens, after all, it happens by filling someone’s pockets and without communication, agrees with society, who among the people knows what the salary is set for entrepreneurs who book, the average salary in the state at the end of the 21st

year is uah 13, uah 700 of which are taxes, roughly calculated when they talked about 30 00 or 20 00 tax, it will be, it is a qualification for security, it is different, you will understand that on today it all happens like this, only no self-respecting person who is self-sufficient in his good, high-quality working city can get this, it must be obtained through some holes, ways, through this linden, oh my god, master's degree, graduate school, because of anything, and therefore these things the state... must openly to say: we cannot control this and that corrupt element, it exists, that is why we speak about it openly, we legalize it through the most expensive jobs of all these people, not every man is capable, not every person is capable of these issues, these get a question, no one will pay such a large tax for you, it should be, as i

said, high-quality workplaces, that's why there is a problem of communication and explanation, our government is afraid to explain it, frankly afraid of it... talking, yes, it's easier than anything to keep quiet and watch if i will win in the parliament, well, we are today, this is a very big problematic issue, and quite hateful, and in fact the audience, well, people, the audience, i mean, who watches us, and ukrainians watch us, they understand all this perfectly, that they write exactly what you are talking about, of course, they say that state officials must also serve, and the police, and all the rest. eh, and people are afraid that there will really be such an injustice, there will be a division, that someone will be able to, that it will all escalate and have some kind of corruption component, really. we started our broadcast with a topic. aid of the united states of america in the second part of the program, and we saw from the viewings that this topic also worried our viewers, they talked about mobilization, but we will still conclude

with an international one. pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for 14-19 years, co-founder of the center for national stability and development. lots of news today, the security agreement with the united states of america. joseph biden said that the weapons that ukraine needs and already has will be provided to ukraine. on just that we are talking about aviation not only about the f-16, president zelenskyy at the press conference, which took place literally during our broadcast, in particular noted that in a telephone conversation with the leader of china xi jinping, he assured him that he would not give weapons to russia , your summary of today, today's important and perhaps even historic day in the world context for our country, i congratulate everyone, friends, how about... this is not a day, it's the last few weeks, and i will remind you that the west began to raise the stakes very deliberately from the decision to beat in russian

territory with western weapons, although limited there with all the agreements, but this is, well , actually a decision that crosses one of the key red lines. today at the summit of the seven, a decision was made to use the profits from russian assets, and this is money that will be provided at the expense of future profits, this is also the same key red line, these are american sanctions, both primary and secondary, and the mess there on the moscow stock exchange because of this, that is, in fact, the russian... financial system is not yet completely, but almost finally cut off from the civilized and western one, besides, our security

agreement with the states fits, which is of course the center of this network, and without it, everything else functions, of course, but the states are the central story, only the states can provide us. .. those weapons that you actually need and in these terms, although they also have a problem, as you can see, but nevertheless, they are such weapons that they cannot be replaced either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, but that is also logistics, this is support for intelligence and many other important things, which they cannot do now the europeans, well, of course, the japanese agreement is not either... by the way, i reminded you today that only the japanese, in addition to the americans, make interceptor missiles for the patriots, the japanese have other interesting things that, in

principle, only they can do qualitatively are doing and this is what the western world specializes in, that is, the last few weeks there, well, 2.2 weeks, this is the most massive surge after the decisions were made, i also see that... gradually our western partners are moving, well , for now mentally and again very careful with the logic that we don't give what we can, when we can and under what conditions, and what is needed, for example, in a similar approach with israel there is such a concept as a qualitative military advantage, we cannot copy the same in relation to nuclear ... russia, but we are already talking about and the qualitative and quantitative escalation of weapons in a reasonable perspective, i

mean the numerical one too, that is, i agree with you, really the last two weeks, they are the most saturated from the point of view of what we are doing together with the west, raising, raising the stakes, as on me, from the decision on af-16... and even against the background of this decision, if we speak comprehensively, this is the tightest two weeks. mr. pavle, this is an important summary, we now say goodbye to all viewers of the espresso tv channel, traditionally next thursday at 21:15 we will see you, but velikiy lviv is speaking on the youtube channel, after a short break, we will summarize this broadcast.

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my congratulations, this is svoboda live and me. my name is iryna sisak. ukraine's armed forces are likely conducting a targeted campaign to weaken russian air defenses. if successful, this could allow ukraine to more effectively use aircraft, particularly the f-16, in the long term. the institute for the study of war writes about this in its latest report. as an example, analysts cite recent successful strikes by ukraine, which may be part of such a campaign. in particular, last night ukrainian forces attacked russian air defense, namely one s-300 and two s-400 batteries near belbek and sevastopol in occupied crimea. such data was made public by the general staff. in the conditions of war, radio liberty cannot promptly confirm them. analysts of the institute for the study of war also refer to geo-location images published by osinter, which show damaged and destroyed russian s-300 and s-400 near occupied yevpatoria and dzhankoy. this, according to them , confirms the message.