and not fail to fail the ukrainian society, which so, so bravely and so sincerely fights for its own survival, for its freedom and for its opportunities to have and decide its own future. mrs. ivano, today the meeting of the big seven is taking place, the leaders of the group of seven countries reached an agreement on the allocation of 50 billion dollars to ukraine through the use of freezes. russian assets, and we are not talking about the confiscation of russian assets abroad, but about interest from these assets, and why do you think our western partners are so careful about this with regard to russian assets and do not seize all russian assets for the benefit of ukraine, is this interest the first step to this, well, i really want to calculate that these... from frozen

russian assets, this is really the first step , there are a large number of lawyers, foreign, western lawyers, who prove that there are options for confiscating these assets of the russian federation within the framework of international law, and this should not lead to the undermining of any financial system in the same european countries, or well, break it. the trust of other countries that keep funds on the territory of the european union or in other countries of the western world, but at the same time we have a large number of those who are re-insuring and who, well, maybe somewhere , are counting on the fact that somehow it will be solved somehow, and not necessarily us to risk such a serious decision when sovereign such as assets.

terrorist states, it would seem like a simple black and white situation, can be confiscated and transferred for use for the needs of a country that is a victim of a country that suffers from aggression terrorist countries, but also some people are very worried about how our western companies that remained working in russia will feel, and for some reason they have what they say... the russians will then start confiscating them, and for some reason no one talks about the fact that the russians have been confiscating them for a long, long time, or pressurizing them in such a way that they are forced to sell them on the spot or hand them over to the russian federation for no reason, well, in fact, this is again a question of money, of course, but also morals, why these companies are contrary there and there sanction restrictions continue to work and decide to stay for themselves. in

the aggressor country, pay taxes in the aggressor country and thus support its military economy. there are many questions, but i really want to expect that when we see already such a greater willingness of the united states to take the lead in this process of confiscation of assets, that they will still manage to find a common language with the countries of the european union and move from purely using percentages of frozen assets to the assets themselves. in favor of ukraine, among the issues that today president zelensky decides in italy, where the meeting of the leaders of the group of seven summits of the g7 is taking place, this is the signing of security agreements with japan and the united states of america, with the prime minister of japan, fumio kishida, zelensky has already signed a security agreement, he announced this on social networks , which president zelenskyi writes during in the 24th year

, japan will provide ukraine with 4.5 billion us dollars and support our state throughout the ten-year term of the agreement. assistance in the field of security and defense, cooperation in humanitarian, technical, financial spheres, joint work for the implementation of the points of the peace formula, sanctions against the aggressor and bringing him to justice, this is also confirmed by the condition signed today. and now we are waiting. zelenskyi and biden actually signed a ten-year security agreement, and a joint press conference between zelenskyi and biden is to be held, but on the eve of the washington post, with reference to officials of the united states of america , they wrote that since the ten-year security agreement between ukraine and the united states, which is planned to be signed zelensky and biden will not be ratified by congress, then any subsequent president of the united states will be able to. to bind, well, this is

the last, the last point and the last statement, probably from the first days of signing such agreements, it was written. it was written about in the international press, in the western press, that these agreements, since they are not ratified by congresses and parliaments, that they are not so legally precise in terms of implementation, we will not ratify these agreements in the parliament either, correct ? yes we won't to ratify these agreements in the parliament, and so, unfortunately, uh, well, all the time we see, ah... the issuance of the desired implementation by our leadership of our country, these are not security agreements, these are agreements on interaction, on cooperation, on providing support, and indeed this and that element that they are not ratified,

means that if there is a serious change in the public mood within this or that country, the politicians will follow those public on... moods, if they do not show their leadership and readiness , and there their beliefs will not correspond to that they themselves should form this public opinion in support of ukraine. so, you know, when i hear that in the security agreement with the united states, or rather the security agreement with the united states, it will be written that when, or in the event of a new attack by the russian federation, ukraine will consult with the united states in order to determine... how to proceed, well, this is a direct reference to the budapest memorandum. in the budapest memorandum it was written that if any country violates something in relation to to ukraine, to its territorial integrity, the country will hold consultations, so in

2014, in march of 2014 or at the end of february, we held and gathered these consultations, obviously the russian federation did not come there, well, we consulted and received in resulting in very weak sanctions. the first, the first sanctions, which, in response to the annexation of crimea, were applied by the free world, and we remember how long we had to explain that this is not a civil war, and no, no, you know, miners do not find weapons in the mines for that to fight against the ukrainian armed forces, in fact we are dealing with... the aggression of the russian federation, so it seems to me that we need not to engage in self-deception and finally focus all our efforts only on what is and can be the only guarantee of our security, this is membership in nato, this is membership in the north atlantic alliance.

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with roman tsimbalyuk, my colleague, journalist, former vlaskor unian in moscow, a person who runs his own large youtube channel with 1,200,000 subscribers. mr. roman, i am you. i congratulate and encourage all our viewers to subscribe to your channel, i am glad to see you on the air. thank you very much for this promotion, it is very, very nice. roman, let's start with the good ones news in moscow, since today, in fact, what was the reaction to the sanctions of the united states of america, great britain, in the capital, in the russian capital, yesterday more than 30 individuals and more than 200 structures from russia and china got into the american of the list of sanctions against russia, the ministry of finance of the united states of america announced that as part of the expansion of sanctions , the united states prohibits the provision of software and it services

to any person on the territory of russia, and as stated by the head of the american ministry of finance janet yellen: we are increasing the risk to financial institutions that deal with russia's military economy and in... ways to avoid paying taxes, and we are reducing russia's ability to benefit from access to foreign technology, equipment, software and it services in addition, the list included mosgorbank, sberbank, financial institutions, insurance companies, well, the shares of these companies fell, the dollar fell to 100 rubles, queues lined up at exchange offices and the yuanization of russia began, that is, as you perceive it, otaku technology of our western partners, that's it. the principle of salami, you know, during the soviet union, when everything, everything was slowly cut off, cut off, cut off, and

as a result the united states of america actually got the result, well , the sanction regarding the moscow stock exchange is probably important here, in general, the story is cool, it's funny that the american batik comes out, he was as strong as yours... no matter how much he hurts, everything remains. the question is how the american government uses them, but now they are objectively hurting, here the question arises, of course, why are these people who vote 146% for putin running to buy the currency of, ah, enemy states, well, this is a very cool story in general, act like everyone is telling that the united states should be burned with a nuclear bomb and actually. and europe is the same, and when it comes to babuletics, for some reason this desire

disappears and, in order to save their savings, they go to buy something not for yuan, globally , this situation looks, in my opinion, so that putin, well, you know, well, in reality, it seems he was recruited somewhere in beijing at some stage, i.e. to make a large enough state in such a way, well, i don't know, completely subordinated to a comrade, it's just a fantastic thing, and i like in terms of propaganda, how they started to clean up this place where vladimir putin is sitting, but not anymore not to him, but to china as a whole, and, accordingly, comrade xia, these are all phrases about the fact that this is a five-thousand-year history. that they are so cool, that they win over everyone they want, and it looks very,

very, well, just, in my opinion, humiliating in principle, because they are certainly not that much yet rushed to this, although it was expected, agree, that is, we were all waiting for china to get its dividends, and here it is simply in the current situation that the yuan is coming. in exchange for the dollar, i think that the russians have finally seen through and understood what is happening, although your good friend maria zakharova, the spokeswoman of the russian foreign ministry, promised a decisive response from russia to the new western sanctions. let's listen to what maria zakharova said. such a step will not lead the west to anything good. in addition, european property

and money of russia, as you know, about this is what our government representatives have repeatedly said: enough is enough and the inevitable retaliation will be extremely painful for brussels, so they will have to pay for their madness out of their own pockets. here maria spoke. not only about this, but also about 50 billion frozen interest from russian assets, and when maria zakharova says that this is an illegal initiative, you just want to sob, because the country that destroyed the entire world order that was established after the second world war which pissed off all international convention, on the right of people in ukraine, and simply turned into a state murderer. they are still talking about some illegal initiatives, what, what else can they say and what, what

can they do, romany, well, given the hysterical nature of zakharova and the unpredictability of the same putin or medvedev, and they do not have many years, this firstly, in principle at the state level, secondly, zakharova and i, well, yes, we are acquaintances, but we have not been friends for a long time, and with great advantage. we have never been there, and what she says is just repeated, as far as i'm concerned to demonstrate to the western world that the transfer. you your production to expand the demand there, knocked down there and so on, you need to think very carefully where you are doing it, the fact that she, they, threaten to take away the western factories that have been built over the years, here you can be calm, somehow it will work for a while, then without updating, without corresponding

maintenance from the westerners there, including it specialists. it just won't all come back in one great moment, but i still wonder how much they are made a decision regarding the war with us impulsively, that is, putin, and by his decision, attention, more than 300 billion dollars and euros were placed in the west, that is, in nato, and it does not seem to you, serhiy, that this is somehow illogical, on the one hand with... again threats, threats, threats, then a significant part of the russian reserves are located right there in the european union, i think they are a little crazy in their heads, to be honest, and i like these cries that this is the money of the russians grandmothers and grandfathers, but russian grandmothers and grandfathers want to say only

one thing, pray that you are not killed during hostilities, and the money, well... sorry, well, this is again the aerobatics of vladimir putin, when the war against russia is waged with russian money, yes, for this money, which will be transferred , of course, under the control of international institutions, her salaries will be paid to our military, well, and on and on and on, why am i focusing on the military ? and they kill russians for russian money, well , to a certain extent, to a certain extent, this is what it is on the geopolitical aspect, well, once again you are convinced that putin is just a crazy idiot, sorry, beyond any doubt, i also have the same impression, if two people have the same impression and the

same opinion, obviously it is so, let’s talk about ukrainians ? the survey of the kyiv international institute of sociology, which was made public, and it says that according to this survey, 60, 60% of ukrainians believe that the ultimate goal of russia in relation to ukraine is genocide and the destruction of the ukrainian nation, only 7% believe that the aggressor seeks to preserve by myself already occupied territories, but in fact does not claim all or most of the territories of ukraine. i... frankly, i can't understand why, during a full-scale war , only 60% of ukrainians believe that russia's ultimate goal in relation to ukraine is genocide and the destruction of the ukrainian nation, it would seem that these are obvious things that should be understood for 99% of ukrainians, why do you think 40%

are hesitating, or let's say, still not sure. in the fact that the russians came here to destroy us? well, you know, because, over these years, what has been happening since the 14th year, ah, if a person did not understand something, then he is an idiot, but again, in any society there is a certain percentage of people who, well , that is, so that it does not happen, you know, this is even political technologists, they are like that when they promote a certain candidate, they er... it is known there, they always know that there is 10%, these are those who, no matter what, they will always be for this candidate, and there is 10% , who will be against it, no matter what happens, if he is there, i don't know, he will either eat honey, or children, all the same, their position will not change, so i still think, here too, up to 10% of the people, well, they are like that, they, they will, they

will be hanged on... lanterns by russian soldiers , they will think, well, this is probably a mistake, there is nothing in heaven, they will figure out what is where, where is our place, and to talk about social polls in this way, you know that 40% of our population does not perceive the situation inadequately, well, i do not think so, these polls, you know, this is also such a thing, it was possible. then ask a few more questions about this and we could get a different answer and it won't be so rediculous. well, i believe that there are other polls that say that 90% are in favor of the return of all

ukrainian territories, and actually this says that we are all right with the information, that it is such a mix of these and our problems, and there is also mobilization, well, the war, the time is scary, for some these fears are a little bit, well... somehow, some kind of moron is in the head, but at the same time, no one wants a russian occupation boot to be in his city, if we this question, about which one we are now discussing a social survey, we added this, for example, here it seems to me that these numbers were more adequate and relevant, but absolutely, what if... in the same survey there are such astronauts who even want to de-nazify militarization of ukraine, yes, there are only 5% of them,

so this theory of mine, it seems to me, corresponds to that, so it is a little strange in the survey, i understand it, but i don't think that we have any hair to pick here, and it's just necessary for us, journalists... to tell what they are doing, and of course, against the background of the support that putin had in ukraine at the time, remember, in the mid -2000s, his level of support in ukraine was somewhere around 56% or 60, well, quite high, considering that this was, well , literally 20 years ago or 19 years ago, it looks like ukraine made a big... from russia, from putin, because we also had a party supporting putin, remember, in 2006 they ran elections, and they got 0.32%, or 1, 0.32,

they got in sevastopol, only in sevastopol they got, but this party was officially registered in ukraine, and this is also , in principle, an indicator of the current state and the past, how far we have gone from them and moved away from them, yes, yes, actually, understand what, what we have as a result, i even the figures are all clear, you can discuss here, you can not discuss, the fact remains that vladimir putin and the russian people, that is, all russians, are conducting a policy of de-russification of ukraine, that is. it is happening before our eyes, yes, the destruction of cities with people who, well, in theory could, and the elections have always shown, they were loyal

to the russian federation, what russia is doing to them, it is killing them, well, not only them, they are absolutely systematic in this regard, they still want to kill ukrainians in mariupol who speak russian, or residents of the ternopil region or lviv region. we all know the difference between them and these definitions for us in russian sociology, well, excuse me for this phrase, but they still periodically try to publish some figures, but today i came across a figure that 58% of russians understand what putin is for conducts a special military operation in ukraine, and to be honest, this figure surprised me, the russians could... write 88 or 98%, nevertheless, how is the attitude of russians to the war against

ukraine changing, because russian sociology, it well, she is as lying as the current leader of russia, and like everyone who is trying to publish some numbers, whether russian society is changing with the war, and the main criterion is the following. the fact that they do not mind killing us, it is clear in the overwhelming majority, of course, there are 10% of russians, i think iron, who are there now, who do not perceive all this, well, you can also discuss, well , within the framework of this concept that i spoke about, and the rest, they, let's say, occupy such a place, they look down, do not look up, do not look anyone in the eye , my friends tell me, it means that when russians meet at the table, there are different topics, there is no war at all, they simply ignore it, they pretend that it does not exist, but the criteria... which,

why they change, here more and more such bells that the russian army does not have there is enough meat, and more and more they are talking about the fact that there will be mobilization among them, putin says that there will not be, and the russian kirmanich, well, very often lies, i will say so diplomatically, whether it was wanted differently, that's why they do change, the question is that the russians, they do not in any way... influence the decisions that are made there, because they think to themselves there, well, i think we should broadcast such a thesis, and we you, dear temporarily, not dear, temporarily aggressive neighbors, in ukraine you have two options, leave or die, this is where i start to reach, well within the framework of everything, if someone does not leave quickly and starts flying over russian

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