credit money is poured into, for example, the institutional capacity of a certain country, it is invisible to the average viewer, but when china comes in and builds bridges, people see it, and in this way it builds a certain loyalty in post-conflict environments, especially, as i said, in africa, this tactic was actively used by china, and now they are doing the same, they are trying to reserve a place for themselves at the negotiating table for... they are offering, if anything, well, they are already actively offering, but the further they go, the more they will offer their participation in reconstruction, in order to become an active actor in post-war ukraine and an actor of influence, and at the same time it is not important for them, unlike our western partners, no, it is not important, unlike ukraine, that in this process we do not have even a hint of a new war with russia, that is, it is not the real end of the war that is key for them. thank you. thank you for

your analysis, maria zolkina, head of the regional security and conflict research department of the democratic initiatives foundation, researcher at the london school of economics, we are analyzing it in this way on the eve of the summit on the air, so in the comments i encourage our viewers to join in and share their thoughts and whether you share what was said on the air. but what about the peace summit, which was initiated by ukraine and where they did not want to see russia, are the russian state media writing on the eve of this summit, and what are they saying in... my colleague oleg galliv asked our colleagues from the russian service of radio liberty about this, whether they feel putin a threat from the summit itself and the decisions that can be made there and whether the russian president is even ready for negotiations and at which conditions, let's listen. if we talk about the official media, russian propaganda, then it tries to belittle the significance of this summit, and what is called in such a somewhat contemptuous spirit about... is responded to as

an event doomed to failure. this, of course, fully corresponds to the kremlin's official position, which was first expressed by seven putins. back in may, during a visit to china, he spoke about the summit as an event in which russia does not intend to participate, which, according to him, does not mean that russia is not ready for negotiations. but it is not ready for negotiations on the terms of the ukrainian peace formula. and there he mentioned more than once the istanbul agreements mentioned by the russian side, which were not adopted in the spring of 2000. on the 22nd, he said, it would be possible to negotiate on these terms, but in the form in which this summit is going to be held in switzerland now, it is for russia unacceptable, then the same thing was repeated by lavrov, who said that he had nothing to add to what his president had said, and further on at different levels, including the ambassador to switzerland, mr. harmonin, who also said that they would gather representatives of the countries are here, but russia is not interested in this, because not only was she not called, but even if she was called, then... she would

not go on such conditions, that's what it all boils down to, and these motives are constantly repeated in one or another variation official russian media, official russian mass media. so, what are the expectations from the peace summit, in the comments under this stream, under this video, we also talk about it, there are opinions, a lot of opinions, i can’t quote them all, some should remain only in the comments, probably but there are also remarks about the role of china, and there are also... remarks that the comments that so really the western partners, they will bring closer, it will bring peace closer, because the western partners will unite, and will be together already to adhere to this opinion, to support ukraine, to support, it is not only in words, and they will declare it, we understand that there are some questions, for example, there is an open question, but will the us leader joseph biden be at this peace summit, a few weeks ago, for example , western media... wrote about what

he will probably not be there, that is why several meetings were planned with president zelensky, two meetings that have already taken place, at one of them yesterday, a security agreement was also signed, yes, is this how biden compensates for his absence from the peace summit, or after all whether he will come there, it remains an open question, oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy from european solidarity and member of the ukrainian delegation in paris, president of the committee on migration and refugees in paris, joins our broadcast, i welcome you to our broadcast, thank you for joining. i congratulate you, what are your expectations from the peace summit, i will even start with a question from russia, because they oppose this event in every way, both at the state level there, and what is said in the russian media, and russia and china are taking steps to refuse even the countries from participation, which reuters wrote about, how this meeting in switzerland can threaten moscow and beijing, in fact, i quite know that.

i treat the entire history as a peace summit, in that sense, of course, we all want peace, and of course, the more countries we unite, the better, at the same time, it was clear to me from the very beginning that this would be a rather difficult task. well, when today we understand that china will not be there, brazil will not be there, south africa will not be there, we do not understand a number of other countries, it looks like ukraine's allies will gather there again, and well, once again they say that there putin has to go and this one, well, unfortunately, if it worked so easily, then putin would have left a long time ago, well, at the un general assembly, 140 countries would have voted that this is russian aggression, it should be stopped, but it is by no means stopped. it's true, that's why i 'm so cautious about it, that is, it's not bad, obviously, but i wouldn't expect any breakthroughs from this summit, and as far as i'm concerned, the main task today is to bring western troops into ukraine, not in order to

they fought with us together in bukop, at least now, but at least there are constructors, such as observation missions, auxiliary, police mission on the border with belarus and so on, in my opinion... this is a more important task and it will rather us lead to our goals than regular summits. oleksiy, well, you really mentioned it, you do, well, not that skeptical, but there are no great expectations, let’s say, from this summit, but the efforts that official kyiv, the partners of official kyiv, put into this meeting over the last year, they obviously quite big, it was announced a lot, the singer madonna even supported this summit, all this can live up to the hopes, that is, what is the goal anyway? well, it is obvious that even the organizers, while organizing it, understood that russia would not lay down its arms there immediately, due to the fact that the peace summit is taking place in switzerland, but nevertheless, what important steps can be taken in the official final communiqué there, for example, so that it still begins to build that path to peace in ukraine? look,

what was the idea, the idea was that , roughly speaking, the whole world would gather, well , of course, north korea. iran, there venezuela, occupied belarus, syria, no one expected, but that the whole rest of the world would gather, and the key was china, india, such countries, brazil, large countries, but not of the western world, and thus, if it was shown unity around ukraine and around the ukrainian vision of world peace. objectively speaking, it has already failed, well, because those countries that we named... but will not be there, so today it will be repeated by the meetings of the allies of ukraine, in the communique that we see, it will be about the three points of president zelenskyi's plan, first of all, are nuclear security, food security, the return of captured child hostages, these are

very important tasks, and in principle, the fact that we can raise them to such a high level is also good, but the idea which of the i invested in it at the beginning, well, it didn't work out and... and this is an objective reality, so i would now repurpose it more, use it as a platform, i think that this will be done most likely to carry out changes regarding issues, about which i'm talking about, namely the introduction of troops, other things, well, yes, food security, nuclear security, the return of our hostages, these are super important things, if this summit even brings one step closer, brings them closer, then it will be good, but.. . the big idea that was put into it at first, it seems to me that well there is nothing special to expect here. oleksiy, are there any threats, the wording, at least that we know from the media, that at the beginning of the communique there were potentially dangerous statements that could

harm ukraine, mr. sydorenko wrote about this in the european truth, now it has been added , as if it was corrected, that a clause about russian aggression was added, it is clearly indicated there, the wording that opened... the way to territorial concessions to ukraine was removed from the text, the requirements for alternative peace plans were changed there, the terms of russia's involvement in the peace process, etc., that is, this is a positive moment, already with such changes there will be no harm to ukraine after this meeting? yes, this is a good question, indeed, by the way, i would like to thank mr. sydorenko and european pravda for raising this topic, in fact it is very important, what else could have happened that this summit did not bring, did not bring ... of great benefit, could still bring some harm, this would be the worst, because as you know, my first education is in medicine, and the main commandment of hippocrates is nonocere, do no harm, and the main commandment of the doctor, so the main thing is whether there will be a plus, then such a story, i want it, but the main thing is that it gets worse, now it

definitely won’t get worse, with the stones that we see now, there are no pitfalls , there are no no cheating, it's normal. absolutely pro-ukrainian theses, which are embedded in the ukrainian context, and that's all, well , we'll see in the end, what will be the number of countries that will sign it, and... maybe there will be some seven eight 10 k among them new countries, which before, hello, sorry, please, it's simple here on the street, people greeted each other, so perhaps there will be some five or eight new countries that will join, that is also good, a certain expansion may take place. oleksiy, regarding the negotiations, does this peace summit open an opportunity before the start of negotiations, so it is possible that the next summit will already be attended. russia, which will be confronted with the fact and will be presented with some points, and there will be some, well, some attempt

, maybe there, of sanctions pressure on russia in order to force it to negotiate there, or without it on the terms, probably russia there or china, or moscow, in your opinion, are they ready to start this process? moscow is ready to negotiate, but not with us the united states of america, the problem is that they don't know who to talk to in the united states of america, so...my personal view, i don't expect any negotiations and no movement at all before the elections in the usa, everything will be decided to a greater extent on the battlefield. i do not believe that there is any format of a summit of international pressure that will force russia to leave. i am skeptical about all this. to me i want to be wrong, but let's go, well, i don't know, today is june 14, let's meet in your studio in 3 months and let's go. the results, then it will be clearer whether this summit brought anything or not, let's summarize, well, what about us, is there any progress,

are there any changes or not, as you can see, i am very careful about this, we need to change the balance forces in directly in ukraine, everything is decided on the battlefield today, it is real, in order to do this we need more weapons one, and we need more human resources two, no one send the french to fight for us, or the latvians, they won't come here to fight for us, but to come here to release our troops, to show putin that we won't let you go too far in any case, that would be super important signals, and honestly, i would put all these colossal efforts, which were really invested into this summit, into the summit, in this, in my opinion, one battalion from a nato member country on the territory of ukraine, but officially, which officially visits and starts carry out... an official mission, well, for example, even just guarding the border with belarus, it weighs more than this whole

summit, with all respect, with all understanding, well, that's why, well, that's my opinion. oleksiy, the very end, i will mention the security agreement that ukraine signed with the usa, there, by the way, it is said that an american soldier will not fight on the side of ukraine, nevertheless, there will be training and all kinds of help for ukraine, here you are also a skeptic of this agreement, because here cnn writes that trump will come and in a few hours simply cancel this security agreement. there are no obligations, well come on, yes, it's not, it's no danger guarantees, it's good, look, security, is it good that we made the us a security agreement, it's good, because president biden has made certain political commitments, and president biden, well, it's the president the usa will either be biden or trump again, that is, in at least 50% of cases, we have taken a big step forward, which is good, but it must be understood that way, this treaty is not subject to ratification. aggression, it is not binding on subsequent american administrations, and if trump decides that this agreement is not for him

like, he'll forget about her the very first day he becomes president, and that's the end of this deal. i absolutely do not want to give pessimism, again, it's good that it's there, well, we've taken some steps, but it's in no way a substitute for nato membership, it's in no way a substitute for real security guarantees, and it's in no way does not replace the need for western troops here in ukraine. but on the other hand there was no choice, there was no choice, either nato or security agreements, such as they are, and, with on the other hand yes. oleksiy, thank you for joining. oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy from european solidarity, was a guest of svoboda ranok. i will also add that we invited people's deputies from the servant of the people and representatives who are close, well, the power there from the president's office to this conversation in order to comment on the eve of the peace summit, but so far we have no answers. you see, no, they did not volunteer to come to us today, but already on monday, based on the results of the peace summit, we

will also make a final such an important broadcast, where we will analyze it, i hope in a wider circle of representatives of various authorities, including the opposition, it is important, in the meantime, write in the comments your expectations from the peace summit, your assessment of the security agreements, whether you are happy with it, or nevertheless, you also have questions about... these historical events, as volodymyr zelensky said about it, as he said, it is about the security agreement. thank you to our viewers for being with us, for supporting our resource by liking, sharing this content, this very important. i'm in trouble. in particular, i and the svoboda ranok team wish you a peaceful day and see you on monday on youtube, on the radio svoboda channel and on the espresso tv channel.

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on the air, lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, let me remind you, we are working in this studio for you today until 12 o'clock, it's an espresso marathon, join us viewing and also join the donations for our army, we are collecting for the 100th brigade of the armed forces of ukraine for artillery reconnaissance, so be with our military, with your hryvnias, you can donate by scanning this qr code, or by writing down this card number, as of now, you and i have collected 16,000, and we are 13,000 away from the half-million mark, at least on one of the monobank accounts, in total we need to collect as much as 2.5 million, so do not waste time, the collection is needed, drones are needed on the front line, and we continue talk and invite yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics, to the conversation, we will talk about what

is happening in the world, but of course what concerns ukraine is ongoing. g7 in italy, and can we already talk about some intermediate results, mr. yevgeny? congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory, i think that the very participation of volodymyr zelensky in the g7 summit is a good sign, and it is evidence that the ukrainian issue remains on the agenda, on the agenda of world leaders. i have it, i won't hide it easily. skepticism about that decision about 50 billion dollars, which was passed with quite a lot of noise yesterday, but you know, well, still, i rely on the fact that the leaders of the most powerful countries in the world at the moment, they are clearly aware of what they

are promising, and they are aware that this amount , it is extremely important for ukraine, because it will allow us to plan the budget for 2025, that is, we can talk about the fact that this is a timely decision, first of all, the security agreement with the united states signed on the sidelines of the summit is also important, well the same as well as the security agreement with japan, but i think they are different in their format of the agreement, although, by the way, japan after the beginning. of a large-scale invasion took a number of steps, which i would say were unprecedented, that is, providing ukraine with military equipment for... a state where even the army is called a self-defense force, this is an unprecedented step. the united states, i think, we have actually

documented on paper what already exists today, and the provision of military aid, and the training of the ukrainian military and other things. there is a little bit of it here a spoonful of breath in the sense that ... the future administration can cancel this agreement, well, i am quite skeptical about the prospect of it, its ratification in the house of representatives, because there is a majority of republicans, they , accordingly, before the election, will not give such a gift to joseph biden, but in general , the fact itself, in my opinion, is positive. that is , ukraine remains on the agenda, it is important, and the west also supports us, but we must understand that the countries of the west and for them this is, i would

say, an imperative, they are ready with us sharing, supporting us with resources that are quickly or relatively quickly renewable, such as... let's say, money, ammunition, for individual positions, this is combat equipment, but sending their citizens to fight in ukraine, for them, is, well, on today's moment of the decision, which, i think, is still the red line that even emmanuel macron's statements cannot cross, well, the 50 billion that will be transferred to ukraine from frozen... russian assets is also such a super red line, i understand correctly, olaf scholz said that it is already a historic decision, and why do you have skepticism about it, this is money that is located

primarily on the territory of the european union, it can even be specified that it is located primarily on the territory of belgium, that is, this is also a kind of very, very interesting political decision, because. .. the confiscation of the aggressor's funds in this way without a court decision is a truly revolutionary approach, and it shows that the world is changing, changing right before our eyes. in this way, the measure solves the problem of aid to ukraine, while not turning on the printing press machine for issuing additional funds and not using their own. funds from the state budget, state budgets, because it is no secret that at the moment, aid to ukraine

is an issue that, on the one hand, is a consolidating issue for the west, and on the other hand, it is an issue that is often a stumbling block, because western leaders are far are not always ready to... discuss the prospect of existence, if not a world without russia, then a world in which there is russia without such a political superstructure as today's putin's kremlin, and this, in my opinion, a significant challenge, and we must work with it as efficiently as possible, that is, we must not only be... recipients, recipients of money, we must formulate a new agenda, take an active part in its formulation, of course there must be some hopes

for a peace summit , which starts tomorrow in switzerland, but that's only on the one hand, because we're going to face, i think, that the expectations of the peace summit will be a little bit higher than what we're going to be able to get there, well actually... about peace summit, let's also say a few words, until the end, not yet we know what the actual number of countries participating in this will be, the bbc reported yesterday that their number may have already decreased to 78, due to the fact that with reference to radio liberty, to radio liberty, and in principle it is explained by pressure from russia, but the second an explanation that is also found is that the very, very, very agenda is not completely agreed even among the key ones. participants, since, say, the host side, what the bbc writes about, in particular the minister of affairs, ignacio cassis, the swiss

says that... this summit should be considered only as the first stage of the peaceful peace negotiations of the following ones, and it is necessary to proceed to the second step, after it, by which switzerland understands the direct involvement of russia in the negotiating process of transition, there can be no peace process without russia, we must say this very clearly, said inazio cassis, instead, as the bbc writes, such comments provoke the president. i do not see an opportunity during the peace summit to create either a group of negotiators with russia or a pressure group on russia, to be honest, that is, we should rather prepare for the fact that the request for the peace negotiations that exist in the world today, it will intensify, and we

need to add ... moments so that we can explain why we consider direct negotiations with russia unacceptable, and why we believe in a certain, perhaps a framework with participation mediators, and which ones, and the conditions under which we can go to negotiations, that is, if it is exclusively a cessation of hostilities, then it will rather be a respite for russia, but it is obvious that these should be different... options, because to count that ukraine will be able to push its agenda and its format negotiations are just here and now, well, i think it is difficult enough, so let's wait for what will happen this weekend in switzerland, let's see what statements will be made and look at the final text of the joint communiqué, let's look again at the number of countries and the quality of their representation,

because i think that... russia and china not only refuse to participate in this summit, but also work to reduce the level of representation of its participants, that is, so that they are not presidents and prime ministers. well, for us , the key marker is that, for example, this one was successful summit, whose presence and at what level do you think it is? i think that for us now, in the current conditions, the content of the document will be a marker. ugh, if it calls things clearly enough by their names, let it be in diplomatic language, it will already be a success, it's just that we initially had inflated expectations from this summit, and now we are under the pressure of circumstances approaching a more realistic perception and the fact that the process of finding peace in a war with a nuclear power that has the largest territory in the world will be

quite difficult. thank you very much, we said about, we evaluated our own results, intermediate results, the first results of j7, with evgeny magda, a political scientist, and we also looked a little ahead, the long-awaited peace summit in switzerland will start tomorrow , by the way, we will talk about this summit further on our air, there are still two hours left in our participation in the marathon, lesya vykulyuk, andriy saichuk, we will remind you of this honor. we are leading, and now our colleague kateryna shirokop is appearing on your screens, this means that the news time is approaching, what happened there in ukraine and the world, katya, tell me, we will talk about the consequences of the night attack on ukraine now and listen, as well as the main events that happened in the world about it, wait.

kateryna shiropoyas works at the news channel espressu in the studio. at night, the enemy launched 14 missiles of various types, including three iskanders and a dagger, over ukraine. our defenders of the sky destroyed seven kh-101-kh-555 cruise missiles. this was reported in the air force. also, anti-aircraft defense shot down 17 shaheds. in total, the strength of the anti-aircraft defense... 24 air targets in khmelnytskyi, odesa, zaporizhzhia, dnipropetrovsk region and kirovohrad region. three women were injured as a result of an attack on the esmensk community in sumy oblast. the russians fired drones at a passenger bus. this was reported in the regional military administration. there were 20 people in the vehicle.