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of ukraine without capitulation of putin, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you don't have a clear answer, please write your answer in the comments below this video. if you watch us on tv, there are two options, also the answer, if you think that the victory of ukraine is possible without the capitulation of putin, 0800 211 381, if this victory is not possible. of ukraine without putin's capitulation 0 800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program and we will sum up the results of this vote. we have our first guest on the phone, this is oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran russian-ukrainian war. mr. major, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. mr. major, how often do we ask our viewers and tv viewers whether in...

in their opinion, whether the victory of ukraine is possible without the capitulation of putin, how would you answer this question? i think that it is impossible, because what then, what can be considered a victory? there can be victory only if russia, well, putin, russia surrenders, or makes a decision, well, to withdraw the troops, well, this can be a bogus version of surrender, recognition defeat in this war, war, well, maybe the word here is capitulation. it is more voluminous, well, if there was another word, then it would definitely be no without this word, but capitulation, i think that not everyone will answer that, like me, because the word capitulation is hard to imagine , for russia to capitulate, admit defeat, withdraw the troops, well, this is not exactly capitulation, well , you know, the question is posed so complicated in the grand scheme of things, as it were. simple, actually

quite difficult, i think it will be very interesting to see how our viewers will vote, yes we will look at the results of this vote at the end of the program, we will start our conversation with tonight, when russia launched a combined strike, another combined air strike on ukraine, launching 30 missiles, one weapon, of which 14 missiles and 17 kamikaze drones were destroyed by ukrainian air defense seven enemy... missiles and 17 drones, according to ilya yevlash, major of the armed forces of ukraine, spokesman for the air force of the armed forces of ukraine. russia uses the tactics of combined air strikes with regrouping and changing the direction of movement of missiles and drones. let's listen to ilya yevlash's assessment. they can add different. type,

for example, the combat unit, yes, increase or decrease it, depending on the task at hand, in addition, this night we saw how, for example, three groups of shaheed united in two, then ceased to exist, that is, this regrouping, and as we can see, this is also a change in the direction of movement, for example, cruise missiles today flew to western ukraine, to kolomyia, after which i will turn around. and flew back in the direction of starokostyantiniv, that is, such techniques with the use, change of heights, yes, they constantly occur, and from time to time, each attack is unique in its own way. mr. major, how have the tactics of the russians changed during shelling, massive shelling of the territory of ukraine during these two years of war? well, she, they, in the beginning they just did.

let's say so, linear e-e attacks were used , they did not combine different for different ballistic missiles, they did not combine them with cruise missiles , they did not combine them with shaheds. the missiles were not maneuvered, they launched them like this, confident that our anti-aircraft defense would not be able to cope with them and that they will hit the target, these attacks that they are doing, well, these are things, well, the spokesman of the air force says correctly, but this, well, we need, we need him to say this, but although from a visceral point of view these are obviously things, well, it is a cruise missile and that is why it is winged and not ballistic, that it is maneuverable, it is not fast, unlike ballistic, but it is maneuverable. and this is exactly its advantage, a change in height, a change in direction, a full turn, just like shahedi, that's what he said, it was worth paying attention to, that they separate and connect, by and large, the shaheds have, well, not

the shadys, unmanned aerial vehicles have to attack according to a certain tactic, and the tactic should be precisely grouping them into a certain combat battle formation, which will be as difficult as possible for... the impression of air defense means or our mobile in groups, well, if it flies one after the other, then the second one may fly, or the third may fly by, they may not be able to catch it, well, there is a lot to do, this is all in the grand scheme of things, it is a tactic, well, i am not sure that the statutes of war in the russian federations and prescribed tactics eh air attacks from incorporeal aircraft, but the tactics that used to be used before ... when airplanes were used, this is exactly what is known in russian as a star strike, that is, at the same time, when not the same city at the same time , which was chosen as a target, is attacked by different, well, in the combat statutes

it is written about planes, different planes from different heights, from different directions, at different speeds, and it is the most difficult to repel such raids for the counter. for defense, now they are acting in the same way, only not airplanes, but winged aircraft and cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, well, shaheds, and well, that’s the icing on the cake, as they say, ballistic missiles can also be added, the main thing is that they arrive, well, almost simultaneously or in certain waves, this is also an overload against us, well, whatever what kind of anti-aircraft defense we have, so to say that this is some kind of know-how, this is some kind of tactic, well, i use such a tactic. studied, studied, when i studied at an anti-aircraft missile school a long time ago, but it was the 80s, i.e. 40 years ago, to think that this was the newest tactic, then it was not the latest, but there is no other, it's just that sometimes many people start saying that there is some know-how, well, we love these

words so much, there is some meaning that we do not understand, there is a gigawatt, nanotechnology, something like that, know-how, what know-how, that's all it's known, it's... it 's known, and it was already, as they say, as one said but, but, but mr. major, with the advent of drones, the nature of war has changed, since the beginning, the nature of it has not changed, yes, now, now you can to create a very powerful starburst, the so-called, well, i was studying russian then, but not a bunch of planes, let's say so, there are 10, or maybe fifty shaheds and combining with missiles, ballistic treasures, and if it is one target, well, like some... i don't want to name the city or any target on our territory, then it will be the most difficult, the most difficult it cannot be defended and 100% repulsed, well, there are no interket systems that destroy 100%, we already have an indicator for the destruction of missiles and shaheeds, well,

shaheeds are almost 100%, here in general this is a unique situation, but the ballistic high percentage, well, it fell a little, well, not because we became worse to work. combat calculations, because there were no, well, there were no missiles, for a certain time we have, our percentage, it corresponds to the tactical and technical characteristics and even exceeds those that are laid in various anti-aircraft missile complexes, well, to be clear, according to the tactical and technical characteristics the zenith of the patriot missile complex, it has a probability of impact of 0.7, i.e. 70%, simply put, out of ten missiles, it shoots down seven, this is a patriot, and well, it is with one missile, so often the air... the destruction increases, well, almost there to 90 and more percent, so there is nothing to be expected here, well, we know how to fight against

such raids, we know what to do in response, this is also written down, and so it was also written down quite a long time ago, there is already someone who will use their technique better, who , more precisely... will she adhere to the tactics that are prescribed, well, let's do it again, well , let's say about this that the army does not fight according to know-how, it fights according to the protocols according to... prescribed by the combat statute, because they are prescribed, as it were they say, with blood, and you don't need to invent something, you need to use it in a timely and correct way what is prescribed and to act according to the situation and to use the exact tactics and the exact weapons which, well, if there are any, which are the most useful in the given situation, no one is sitting there and no, let's not, we haven't tried that already, no need there is no need to try, it is necessary to carry out what is prescribed in the combat statutes and... the main thing is to carry out clearly so that each, every link of this chain performs its functions, well at least 90%, then, then

the goal is achieved, mr. major, that’s how it is , it looks like this, unfortunately or fortunately, the rule there is a rule, a statute is a statute, everything is clear, you speak absolutely clearly here, let's talk about the situation that is developing at the front, because the new york times writes that the russian army is preparing for a significant on... offensive in the coming weeks to disrupt any military successes of ukraine and spoil the celebration of the 75th anniversary of nato during the alliance summit in washington next month, at the same time in may russia lost up to a thousand soldiers in the direction of kharkiv with casualties every day, but russia was never able to create a buffer zone in kharkiv oblast, as stated by putin, and ukrainian pravda writes about it with reference to an unnamed nato official. editions of the spoils in the kharkiv region seem to have reached russia at a rather high price. russia probably

suffered losses of almost a thousand people per day in may, which is quite an astronomical figure. thus, in the end , russia's victories in this direction will be limited. how do you, mr. major, assess the current situation, after ukraine was allowed to hit western weapons on the territory of the russian federation, or did it... curb appetites the russians and their offensive, in particular in the direction of kharkiv and near kharkiv or around kharkiv, they fired with s-300, s-400, some installations were destroyed there, after our western partners actually told us what is happening there now ? well, the appetite has not decreased, they, let's go so that it is possible to win. well, first of all, well, no , first of all, maybe you can’t say that, first of all, we need to understand that the war

will not end quickly, and we must gradually squeeze, overwhelm the enemy, will they try to do the following waves, well, now we want positive relations again, vydyksia is suffering big losses, but these are not big losses for him, he can mobilize a large number of people, they lost a month in may, we counted e... about 39 thousand military personnel were added of their reserves , 41,000, that is, we killed 39, and the dry zalushka, as they say, plus 200, well, 39 were destroyed, 14 were added, these are huge losses, if, if you even look at it for us, on official data, even how much the soviet union on official only losses, if you count, then this three years, three afghanistans, conventionally or four, in... it is necessary to compare this war with the second world war, it cannot be compared with afghanistan, and if we take the second world war, then

these are losses such as, well, the second world war there were losses, if to count on a daily or monthly basis, they were no less, even more, this is a war, a full-scale war, it is more similar, nevertheless, it is closer to the second world war than to the afghan war or any other war there. to hope that it will be easy and simple, well, it is not worth it, whether they will have it, whether they will be able to will be able to increase offensive actions. there is not very good news from north south korea that north korea has seen, from south korea

has seen, north korea has shipped up to 5 million shells to russia, well, i very much doubt that this is true, but even if such information is not very good, maybe it is less, but we know that north korean shells, artillery shells are meant, they are not of very high quality, not everyone there is certified, but if at least there are... a few million shells, russia is so superior in number shots, there are also additional shells, this can double, maybe even triple their shelling for a certain time. then it can be considered as exactly part of that offensive , the strengthening of that offensive, which, well , they say the same russians say, analysts say that the west is not ours, what they are grouping, it is quite possible regarding kharkiv oblast, well, they did not plan to capture kharkiv because the forces

they have there the forces and means of people and equipment were used, it was, well, approximately the same as during the storming of avdiyivka on... the city, well, of course, that they couldn't and didn't plan, because they're not stupid, we always want to think of them as something, yes, the orcs are there and so on, all the words, but they, they are also in the chaka and they wouldn't plan military actions to capture the city using force , which are not enough for this, or will they be? to continue in kharkiv oblast and sumy oblast, i think they will, uh, they are raising reserves for both sumy oblast and kharkiv oblast, what will happen in sumy oblast, it is difficult to say yet, it may be something similar to kharkiv oblast, but in kharkov yes, they, they want move up as close as possible to this city, at the distance of an aimed artillery shot from the barrel artillery in order to, well, try to turn the city into a gray zone or

simply keep it under tension and provide, well , the city to function normally to all structures, to all... well, to all that , that is in the city, in order for it to function, the entire infrastructure, they will try, if not to destroy, then to keep it under tension, because during artillery shelling , no one even announces an air alarm, because, well, an air alarm, a rocket flew, maybe saw there is not much time, but the artillery shots can be out of the blue, at any time, they can discover this wagon, so they will try. will they succeed or not, well , according to official sources, well, those who have acquaintances also know that behind the front line of the front line in kharkiv oblast , a few kilometers away , relatively good fortifications have already been built, and most likely, if they will climb, then let's not

just cling to some tree or some dilapidated building in the field, but let's go a few... kilometers to our fortifications, which have been built, and there it will be convenient for us to hold the defense, and i think the number of destroyed orcs will increase, losses from our side will decrease, because well, hold, be in the defense, if these are reinforced concrete structures , well, since they say that it is really well done, it would be good, and here again we really need f16s, as if not unrelated things, but these fortifications can be... destroyed by kabs, we can shoot down kabs with means we can't air defense ground, only air, i.e. phantoms, you hear, f16, eh, well, maybe we’ll wait for phantoms too, well, you may have been wrong, f4 is, well ho, well, fantom 2, yes, f4, a very good plane, but mr. major, i wanted to ask you about this, when we talk about the losses that the russians suffered in

may, and we understand that these are large losses, as you say, by the standards of the second world war even, and what losses for russia will be painful, which will force to cancel the war with russia, or they will never deal with anything at all, they will simply put as many people as will be needed, well, it's them, they can want it that way, it's as they want, they don't want it, the fact is that there are losses for units that are critical, well, this unit... becomes, well, not very functional when at a loss of 30%, at a loss of more than 50%, it is already everything, it must be changed, because it can no longer conduct combat operations, because a unit is not just a bunch of people there, there is a company of 100 people, there there is also a communications department, and when it is lost, then half is lost,

then the connection is lost, that is, it is just people, as they say, like a movie where there's a guy with a gun, it 's not... not a military unit, it 's just people, there's a certain number of people with weapons who basically don't communicate, don't manage themselves the way they should, well and this already needs to be taken away, replenished and only after that applied again, it is critical, now half a million, they plan to reach somewhere up to 700-800 thousand by the month of september, so in order for them to start paying we need... we need for e - this is the time to destroy another 1300-400 by the fall, well, something, i think that it will not be hard to do sir major, when we talk about autumn there or about winter and about the duration of the war, one way or another we understand that the russian federation is preparing

for a long war, although today the same putin started talking about the fact that let's stop hostilities, and there will be peace, and it won't be a truce, but we, let's exchange peace in ukraine for the four regions that we have already annexed, plus... the autonomous republic of crimea, ukrainian troops will withdraw from the territory of donetsk, luhansk, and zaporizhzhia , the kherson regions, i.e. those parts that the russians do not control, must leave, yes, the armed forces of ukraine must leave, nuclear-free status, neutral status of ukraine, demilitarization, denazification, well, that is, in fact, what putin said today, should it is perceived as... matum and in his mouth peace means war. yes, orel wrote correctly, he thought it was a novel, and

it was an instruction for putin, i understand, this book. the fact is that when putin is afraid of something, he is afraid of our nuclear status, well, all he demands is means that he is afraid of it, and here it is already possible to predict. uh, when he starts healing, it's... he's not doing very well, things are going well and he's not very sure that everything will turn out the way they planned, that is , when he feels that it won't turn out that way , as they all wanted, because the intimidation begins, because we need to do, well, i am sure that it is necessary immediately in washington, so that there is at least some decision on our movement in nato, well , it is written in our constitution, we do not we can change it, and i'm sure we must... without canceling the nuclear status, we must regain our nuclear status, i think that we will be able to come to an agreement with our partners, if it is not our domestic nuclear weapons, then

at least as in germany, as in turkey, let it not be american, because it is sometimes difficult to agree with them, well, it is a big country, there are many different opinions, and with the british, i think there are no issues, we, if we, it is according to international law, if... well, we give permission, and we have certain agreements, military agreements, military alliances, various formats, with some country, and it wants to keep nuclear weapons on our territory, and we are not against it, then this is not a violation of any international laws, well, yes, for example, how the russians can legally keep their nuclear missiles in belarus, the same way, and this, well, it does not violate anything , we may not like it, but it doesn't break the law, so... we can keep, well, british or french nuclear missiles on our soil, or renew our nuclear status, i think that would be just what , that we need

to exchange the so-called measure for the return of the regions, well, what kind of fright do we have to give up our regions, let's come up with counter-proposals, let's create a demilitarized zone and create a kursk republic there separately. what is there, my god, oh, bryansk, belgorod, the word stuck, well, you can, well, i’m joking, of course, a sad joke, well , you can offer something like that to such a shahina as an answer, you know, when a person says stupid, frankly stupid, and we start seriously to react and respond to it, and he is trying, we are trying to prove that it is not necessary to do so, he is not going to, he... was going to insist on this and he needs to it was the overton window to start a conversation about this, that there is

some kind of reaction to their complete nonsense, and then they can, well , in russian, well, let's not four oblasts, i'll go to meet you, three oblasts not give it away, that's why it is necessary to answer very simply with such people, with such statements, or keep silent and say that we are not commenting on hinia, or the same kind of ... stupid, so that their brains will turn over there, we, let's, well, for example , let's give us the kursk region, as it is in that movie, yes, the kursk region volo there, well, hand it over, that’s what we decided, why not, and accept it, please hand over the nuclear weapons, i don’t know to whom, well, burundi, we’re making such demands on you, hand over all the nuclear weapons to bor, well ahineya, taka, they say the same ohineya, from what fright? you tell us what alliances we should enter into, what we should do, under what fear we have to reach for the arrow of victory with you to agree that in order to give you some of our territories, well, what is this,

and we are for it... there is no need to react to it, this or to say that we do not respond to stupidity, or to launch the same stupidity in response. thank you, thank you, mr. major, for the conversation, this was oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms, please subscribe to our pages on these platforms and. also take part in ours survey, today we are asking you about whether a victory for ukraine is possible without the capitulation of putin, yes, no, two options for answers, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you think that victory over putin, is the victory of ukraine possible without the capitulation of putin, 0800 211 381 that this victory is impossible without the capitulation of putin 0.800 2

11382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, several large world forums at once meetings took place this week in europe, a large forum on the restoration of ukraine was held in germany, yesterday it started, today the meeting of the big seven ended, the big seven decided. to give ukraine 50 billion dollars at the expense of russian assets, the prime minister, prime minister of italy giorgia meloni said that the g7 leaders have reached an agreement to give ukraine this amount, and for this all at the expense of frozen russian assets. let's hear what georgia maloney had to say. i can confirm. that we have reached

a political agreement to provide additional financial support to ukraine in the amount of about 50 billion dollars by the end of the year, through a credit mechanism, for repayment of which excess profits from russian assets, which are frozen in our jurisdictions, can be used. we are not talking about the confiscation of these assets, but about the interest that accrues over time. it's a pity that they are still only talking about the accrued interest. on assets , russian assets are frozen in europe, because the russians have already started to panic, because they say that they will confiscate each other's assets western companies located in the russian federation, and in the meantime, the g7 made another statement that russia should pay damages in the amount of 486 billion

dollars caused in... and this is also quite a serious statement, we see that how our western partners are beginning to treat putin and his henchmen more harshly, because only numbers, only money, only opportunities, and the limitation of these opportunities can affect the one who sits in the kremlin, the one who starts again... to talk about that he is not against peace talks, but on his terms. what mean peace talks in the understanding of vladimir putin, this is a mandatory capitulation of ukraine, because what the master of the kremlin is proposing means that ukraine must voluntarily give up four of its regions, plus the autonomous republic of crimea, that is, kherson, zaporizhzhia, donetsk, luhansk regions and

autonomous the republic of crimea, i.e. from five oblasts, or the autonomous republic of crimea has a special status, i.e. from four oblasts of the autonomous republic of crimea, and to abandon the prospects of acquiring nuclear weapons, to abandon a large army, abandon the movement towards the north atlantic alliance, that is, the proposals that putin is making now, they are unacceptable for the ukrainian state, it is clear that... that this week putin received many greetings from our western partners, first the united states of america, then great britain, then canada introduced another round of sanctions against russians and russian companies. the moscow city stock exchange came under sanctions, and as a result, the ruble, the russian...