issues of nuclear security, russia somehow, wanting to continue the dialogue, will still transfer zaporizhia to ukraine under control, but it seems to me that putin has decided to blackmail even more with this occupied nuclear plant, so here is the most important thing, what can be said that representation gives an opportunity... to say that changes are possible in the un, in the un charter, and in the structure of the security council, if we pa, if in parallel with this , the topics of un change, un reform will be discussed on the sidelines and, of course, that this is not enters in the block of proposals or initiatives of zelenskyi, but i believe that an additional result of the summit would be let's say, speaking about

the readiness of most countries, members of the united nations organization for a serious reform of the un, because the un is not you today, it does not fulfill its main role, and it is interesting, gutierrez should be at this forum, but where is he, he refused to go, that's the most interesting thing, it's good that the saudi...ravia sent quite, well , quite an authoritative representative of the royal family, and i think that's enough, let not even at the level of the first person, this is quite enough, that is, in any case, it can be said that this is a continuation of the previous experience of joseph biden, who at one time in the 21st year convened the e-e forum. of democracy,

then most of the participants of the democracy forum, well, the entire list of the democracy forum, then voted for the resolution in favor of ukraine at the un. so, with the next democracy forum, which took place already in 2023 in march, the initiators still tried to reach a joint resolution, and there was a problem, because somewhere out of 120, in my opinion, six countries. 50 countries refused to sign a joint resolution, that is, there may be an intrigue on the joint resolution of the peace summit, but i believe that in any case the framework of such communication and the set of tangential interests of each of the participants of this summit gives a perspective, first of all, the next... stage

of such a peace summit should be held more effectively, the most important thing is to reach the reform of the un and the un security council and the creation of a un peacekeeping corps, that is, we remember the ukrainian war parallel with korea, i want to remind you that it was the international contingent that protected korea then. another event that took place this week that is of great importance, well at least... this event is called historic by president zelensky himself, is the signing of a security agreement with the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, and what about this agreement that he signed yesterday with the president of the united states of america, says the president of ukraine himself. and this is the strongest agreement with america in all 33 years of our independence. there is

a legally binding part of the agreement, there is absolutely useful details on air defense, on planes, we recorded that america will help ukraine in the supply of squadrons, fighter jets, as many fighter jets as ukraine needs. what is important is that the agreement with america now stipulates that ukraine will be supported both during wartime and during peacetime. true, mr. volodymyr, some western experts say that this agreement, they say, if it is not ratified by the congress, the next president, well, for example, trump, he can simply cancel it, but, well, hardly, president trump , or who will be next, who will be the successor, biden, will take such a risk and so cut off the shoulder in order to abandon this security agreement, because it is also ... part of the domestic

policy of the united states of america, as well as foreign policy? mr. serhiu, now the convention of the republican party is being planned, because we mentioned trump. petro poroshenko has been invited to the convention, the chairman of the verkhovna rada has not signed off on this trip for more than a month, so how will we then be friends with the republicans so that this agreement is not revised? actually, we have ratified agreements are interstate, this agreement is not ratified, but there is the experience of france, for example, president macron has submitted the same agreement to the parliament. for the parliament to approve such an agreement at the level of a resolution, so it is obvious that this ukrainian-american agreement is very often called an analogue of the american-israeli security agreement, which essentially began with

the same declarative norms, but with a declarative form, but i would said that it's a kind of... more of a conceptual agreement, it's a confidence-building agreement, and here, when it's done publicly in front of the whole world, one does not back down from one's word in the principle of democracy, let's remember how much noise there was about the budapest memorandum, and those who rush to call this agreement the budapest memorandum, really, well, it has not been ratified in... the parliament , but even the budapest memorandum, being unratified, it encouraged ukraine's partners, in particular great britain and the usa, at the time of russia's attack on ukraine, to stand by ukraine, that is, in a democracy, when

they make public promises, they just it is not easy to refuse public promises, because it... destroys trust, and democracies are just that, coexistence based on trust, that's how democracy differs from autocracy, where everyone suspects everyone. in a joint press conference with zelensky, biden said that the united states of america will not send troops to ukraine, but will help with the provision of weapons and economic support. let's listen to what the president of the united states of america said. our goal is to strengthen ukraine's defense capabilities in the long term. ukraine will have the ability to defend themselves now and deter any aggression in the future. the united states will help ukraine do both. we will not send american troops to fight

in ukraine, but we will provide all necessary weapons and ammunition. we will also provide intelligence and continue to train brave ukrainian soldiers at bases in europe and the soviet union. states. we will invest in ukraine's defense and industrial base, as well as support economic recovery. in addition, biden said that the white house is preparing for the congress of the united states of america. plan victory, in accordance with the previously adopted law on aid to ukraine for 60 billion dollars. mr. volodymyr, do these statements and this agreement mean that... the states of america make it clear to putin that russia's victory over ukraine will never happen, because the americans, the british, the canadians have enough tools besides the military , economic instruments, which in principle can strangle russia and prevent it from continuing

to wage war in ukraine. here the question is not only to strangle russia, but also to turn ukraine into... such an economic tiger, because let's see, step by step, and the just-approved elderberry agreement gives a chance to take the next steps and transform ukraine, let me remind you that similar agreements exist in israel, in the philippines, in japan, in south korea, that is what in one the day a security agreement was signed with japan and the united states, makes... it seems so symbolic, but president biden loves symbolic gestures, let's remember how he signed the agreement, or rather the lend-lease law, on may 9, 2022, so it is very symbolic gesture, and signing in one day with japan, this is a subtle hint

that ukraine will be transferred to such a central european status as a central european economic tiger, and its country will be made self-sufficient in terms of its security, especially since ukraine itself is developing a large number of modern technologies that are of interest to the world. let me remind you that systems are systems. management of the delta battlefield, which was developed in ukraine, it was very interested in many nato countries and, well , in general, the nato military committee, that is, we have a lot of our original developments, which give us a chance not to feel like a poor relative in the circle of developed countries. well, even yesterday zelenskyi said that he is ready to consider an alternative chinese peace formula, and also assured that the leader of china xi jinping... gave him his word not to give weapons to russia, let's hear what

zelenskyi said. i had, had a telephone conversation with the leader of china on the phone. he said that he will not sell any weapons to russia. this, this is the first. we will see, you and i will see, but he told me this, if he is a respectable person, he will not do this, because he gave me his word. they can prepare an alternative formula for peace, if we share common, common views on this, as globally with the whole world, it seems to me, so if they share this path to peace, then we will find a dialogue, an opportunity for dialogue. mr. volodymyr, very briefly, do you mean that kyiv is ready to hold a dialogue with beijing, well, a dialogue is being held with beijing, but not too intensively. this is the first, after all, we know examples when china together with belarus produced a joint

missile system polonaise, and these polonaises on there are no russian weapons, by the way, that is, they are armed with azerbaijan, which, mr. volodymyr, we have to finish our program, forgive me, the time of our program is coming to an end, it was volodymyr tsibulko, friends, i would like to remind you that we are conducting surveys throughout the broadcast and asking you about whether victory is possible. without putin's capitulation, let's look at the interim results of the poll on the screen, please display. 42%, yes 58%. there are discounts that represent unbreakable discounts on tablets, citramon darnytsia, 10% in travel pharmacies to you and savings. vasyl zima's big broadcast. my

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putin demands. to give him four regions of ukraine, for whom the dictator's appeals to nato countries are intended, to build a new system of global security in eurasia together. reconstruction without those responsible. the berlin conference on the restoration of ukraine took place against the background of personnel scandals in the ukrainian government. how to restore the trust of partners? mobilization tension. society, scandals between the tcc and citizens do not subside, whether economic reservation will help to resolve the internal conflict. we will talk about this and other things in the next 45 minutes with mine colleagues, i want to introduce them, this is olga musahirova, correspondent of the new newspaper europe in ukraine. olga, i congratulate you and andrii

yanitsky, my colleague, a journalist of the tv channel. friends, before we start our conversation. i suggest you, those who watch us on youtube, vote in our poll, today we ask you about whether the victory of ukraine is possible without the capitulation of putin on youtube, everything is quite simple, yes, no, or your own version, if you have one, write in the comments, if you watch us telecast, get your hands on it smartphone or phone and vote if you think victory for ukraine is possible without capitulation of putin, 0800 211 381, no 0800 211-382. these calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, well , on the same question, and in the blitz poll we will now find out what my guests, my colleagues think about whether ukraine's victory is possible without putin's capitulation, olga, well, if the russian elites promptly nullify putin,

then it is possible without his capitulation, that is , putin's death can, let's say this. speed up victory of ukraine over russia, the processes will simply go faster, andriy, i think it is possible, but with the support of western partners, if they can guarantee ukraine real protection from russian missiles, close the sky, help with weapons, then it is possible to go to the borders of 91 year and at the same time stay away from putin, protecting your sky. from missiles, this will be the israeli version, when the missiles will still fly and they will go astray, but putin will remain a dictator in his country and create a sanitary zone kursk, bryansk and belgorod and rostov regions by 300 km, but it is unlikely, of course, such a story, we see how our western partners are constantly

late, and with help, so there is no faith in this scenario, but today that is why... why we actually ask our tv viewers, i will explain that today the russian dictator once again repeated that he is allegedly ready for peace talks, but for this ukraine must withdraw its troops from all regions occupied by the russians, that is, it is not the russians who must withdraw from these regions, but the armed forces must come out, which the kremlin already considers it its territory. let's listen to what putin said. and these conditions are very simple. as soon as kyiv will declare that they are ready for such a decision and begin the real withdrawal

of troops from these regions, as well as officially announce the rejection of plans to join nato, and from our side. immediately, literally the same minute, the order to cease fire and start negotiations will come. well , putin's translation is much more emotional and was done correctly than how boring putin voiced it, but if we are serious about it, then this is another ultimatum for world peace and a peaceful ultimatum in public. the world and ukraine, because we remember how putin also issued an ultimatum on december 15, 2021. how does this ultimatum differ from the ultimatum of 20. in the first year, well, i would say that this ultimatum, this speech before, if i am not mistaken, the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation, in my

opinion, is caused by the fact that a summit is being held in switzerland to the world, it is clear that russia was not called and could not be called, but before the summit, well, that is what happened, and i think... that it did not happen by chance, a whole series of significant events took place, and i think to myself, if all these events were connected with real sanctions, with those things, there are bilateral security agreements, everything else, if all this happened two of just a few years ago, did it develop? the situation has reached such a tragic point that we and the world are currently at, well, this is a false start on my

part, putin took it because, of course, he says, this summit is worthless, why is it worthless, because it won't be there russia, and everyone, that means, is gathering, those who... actually do not seek peace, but seek the continuation of the war, the death of the ukrainian people, which he is very worried about, and here he is proposing real measures, but when you look at all these theses that he expresses, then i can agree with those colleagues who are already making assumptions on social networks. that today is a reference point, when the real agony of the kremlin regime began, i rather agree with this, because of

such concentration, categorical statements, and at the same time, the readiness is repeated all the time russia to peace talks, with one hand he threatens, almost... not with a nuclear baton, but with the other he says: but we are open to peace talks with ukraine, well, it’s true, zelensky is not the president, he is illegitimate, well , the truth is, we have such and such conditions, but all the time he breaks through, well, that's enough, humiliation every day. on june 12, on the day of russia, the states introduce sanctions, well, this is not possible. it was conceivable even a year ago, yes, that is, indeed, that all these old principles

of international partnership or cooperation, they no longer exist, and therefore he is practically, practically hysterical, that you will gather tomorrow without inviting russia, so i will tell you how it will go on, well, the perception is appropriate, well, there is... already information that it is the day before the global peace summit is taking place, there will be 100 delegations, 57 heads of state and government, 29 foreign ministers , six countries have sent their plenipotentiary representatives, that is , the conference and this summit will be so solidly representative tomorrow, but andriy, performed by putin, peace and peace initiatives, this the sign of equality is war, that is, what he says if... he says: give us the four regions of ukraine that we have already taken, and give us guarantees, and give us guarantees that you will be a neutral state, a nuclear-free

state outside of nato, it still means war, because hardly anyone in ukraine would agree to it at all? well, of course, he offers such conditions that are not even worth discussing, because he lost the only regional center, which after the 22nd year captured kherson, and now... well, stupidity on one thing and that in the same place for more than a year, unfortunately, during the counteroffensive to crimea, the ukrainian troops did not push back, at least the russian troops, so the situation is deadlocked, but in my opinion, time plays into our hands, because the military forces of ukraine are increasing, we are waiting for planes , and putin, of course, he is trying to somehow protect himself, that is, it is rather a sign of his weakness. in my opinion,

the late dzhokhar dudayev, the president of tichkiri, said very well about such statements of his, well, not putin specifically, about russian statements and calls for negotiations in general. what when russia feels weak, then it offers negotiations, after that it regroups, looks for weak points in its opponents and attacks again, so it is clear that there is no point in going to any negotiations there, well, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine made a reaction, i would expand it, to be honest, i will quote the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, as it responded that all these initiatives are aimed at disrupting the participation of the country's leaders in the global summit. peace in switzerland and the appearance of putin's statements exactly a day before the start of the summit shows that russia is afraid of real peace. i would in response putin would make a list of what we offer for peace, that is, you release four, that is, he did the opposite. the parties voiced their respective positions, denazification of russia, demilitarization of russia, denuclearization, deputinization, that is , i would turn this whole story upside down, i

would say... well, we are ready, but our conditions are like this, and maybe our diplomat, well maybe they don't want to global peace summit to troll putin and make statements like that, but it would be fair because when he talks about give me the four regions that we have already captured it, you just throw up your hands, and what is it all about, and what kind of peace is this, if you have already bitten off four regions, you want... we don’t have an army, so that we, we don’t have nato, and that we accept all your concessions, because he believes that this is peace, well, but it is interesting that peace talks actually began in the public sphere, that is, the parties voiced their positions, well , ukraine will voice tomorrow, and well, in principle, we know , what are the ukrainian positions, this is not what happened in istanbul, when no one knew, and what, what there is happening, and the text appeared later, already after the change attempt, it seems to me that...

such open public diplomacy, it is much more fair and understandable for citizens , this diplomacy of ulya, it seems to me that it gives an answer to why russia is not involved the global peace summit, because what is there to agree on with them, that is, he made a false start, in principle, actually, and i wanted to say about this that, apparently, i do not agree with you, serhiy, that our foreign ministry has nothing to do with him in controversy yes, everything putin says he imagines that he is present at the summit in switzerland, where he was not invited, baba yaga came anyway, and i will tell you what to say, say whatever you want, you are illegitimate as a president, well, that is known, yes, putin is simply a usurper of power, eh, and ukraine does not enter into

negotiations with putin, unless... there are no negotiations about the capitulation of russia, what can we talk about, well, with this person who calls himself the president, let him call anyone, that more that those packages of sanctions that, fortunately, both the states and britain have given russia, well, it has something to do to think, and a person starts talking about ukraine. regions where russian troops entered, and on this basis they have already become russian regions, well, well, well , what kind of polemic can he be free or not crazy, because it turns out that he proposes that the entire world community agree and record in agreement, in the treaty on security for russia, that putin did the right thing when he took away a part of the state,

and this part... world recorded and put his signature and said that okay, everything is fine, and then, then different stories begin all over the world, because there are many such stories, when one state claims the territory of another, chaos begins, because international legal relationships stop working, well, andriy, it seems to me that he doesn’t think so deeply, that he’s a bit like a bandit, he always shouts that he’s a lawyer and graduated from the law faculty, there are gangsters and those who simply criticize the laws are there to the letter, but no they think about the spirit of the law, not about justice and not about a fair trial, but look for hints, how to use these norms to their advantage, so he is rather such a legalist, and a literalist, but as for what