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and caring people in the evening over espresso. the beraber program continues on your screens, in the studio of gul sum khalilova andriy yanitsky, we talk about crimea, crimean news, the second block is devoted mainly to the humanitarian aspects of the stay. the kremlin on the peninsula and because of what is happening there, we have a guest, ms. ilmira ablyalimova cheygos, an expert of the crimean institute of strategic studies, should be in touch by now, ms. elmira, congratulations, greetings to aleyka, greetings, greetings to aleyka, glory to ukraine, we will talk about the khan palace, for those who do not know, the khan palace, for those who do not know, it is the only

preserved palace complex in the world, a sample of crimean-tatar palace architecture and the residence of the rulers of crimea khanate, heraev dynasty. so, let's start with this light news: the lego company is a world-famous toy manufacturer presented a constructor in the form of the khan's palace, and this constructor, of course, popularizes the crimean one. culture and, in general , the history of crimea throughout the world, i hope that children all over the world will be able to play with these toys and learn more about crimea, the crimean tatars, but we know that there are also realities, now the palace is under occupation and not in the best condition, as far as i know, well, they really appear recently very exciting during illegal excavations, as

it became known, a previously unknown building was discovered on the territory of the khan palace of bakhchrai, the foundation was discovered in the harem garden of the palace complex of the glorious herays. russian propagandists claim, citing their own the diggers, the so-called archaeologists, promise to dig until they reach the layer of earth that the owners of the khan's palace used to walk through. elmira khanovna, how risky it all is, how all these actions of russian diggers, archaeologists, they are illegal, and they are harming our, our palace. ugh. well, first of all, i wanted to thank you for raising this question. this is extremely important, especially for the crimean tatars, because you are absolutely right, the bashchysrai khan palace is the only monument that really confirms our existence, ethnogenesis, statehood on the territory of crimea, so preserving

this monument is our number one task, uh, regarding the works that we fix on the territory. of the bagchasarai khan palace, then from the point of view of international humanitarian law, they are illegal, because all these works must, firstly, be authorized by ukraine, and secondly, they must carry such a restoration function. today we see everything but restoration. first of all, it is very similar to repair work. reconstruction, as a result of which we lose the authenticity of the monument, unfortunately, and a striking example of the fact that we are losing this authenticity is, first of all, the fact that the great khan mosque, where the so-called, yes

, restoration work, from the point of view of the russian authorities, the occupation authorities began back in in the distant year 2016, uh, uh, they, unfortunately, it is not open to the audience today, that is, these works that they started, they brought, led to certain consequences, consequences, and these consequences are still impossible to overcome, so, and as for lego, i also wanted to reflect a little, if perhaps you know, unfortunately, in the ukrainian environment there are a lot of such... stereotypical ideas that have been imposed on us since the time of the soviet union, the russian empire and so on, and the first object that the lego campaign made regarding crimea , it was like that, swallows, swallows on the nest, yes, you remember, here, and

unfortunately, unfortunately, well, the first such, their first attempt to show crimea and associate it with this landmark. well, she caused such indignation in society, including me, i wrote many posts about this, that's why spoke about the fact that i believe that crimea should be associated among ukrainians with the crimean tatar culture, with the unique crimean tatar culture, and i am very glad when the khanate really appeared this year. well, finally, elmira khanum, and regarding the khan’s palace, i still have a few questions, you said that we are losing, unfortunately, the authenticity of the khan’s palace today, and indeed, if you look at these pseudo-restoration works of the russian occupiers, we what they saw was that they

were removing our old roof tiles there, and they they brought another from spain and put it there, well, it's really just a loss. of all authenticity, but this old roof tile, it was lying somewhere under the rain and so on, it was simply destroyed, as far as all these processes are concerned, they are irreversible, well, that is, when we already de-occupy the peninsula, come to crimea, we will be able to do it all correctly - to restore, return all this, how irreversible and risky it is, well, it is difficult to answer here, because we do not have access. to this object, it seems to me, from the fact that, and based on the fact that we we can see in the photos or videos that we will receive from crimea, indeed certain works, they are already irreversible, it is almost impossible to return the authenticity, we can reconstruct the object, but to return it to the authenticity, well

, it is almost impossible for some objects of the complex, you you know that the khan's palace is a complex that consists of several. monuments, well, here, and on some of them, the works have already led to a certain partial loss of authenticity of the object, and it seems to me that... even the question of including the palace in the list of the world heritage of usk will be a big problem, because the first factor of inclusion is the authenticity and authenticity of the monument, but it seems to me that there is something that we do not talk about much, but it is also a big problem, the fact is that the monument, any , it... is also a historical material, a source of future scientific research, and it is by restoring, not,

oh, sorry, by carrying out reconstruction, and not by restoring a monument, that we lose certain, well , sources of knowledge that can be used as a source of research, future research, because even construction and... construction techniques are also a source of knowledge, how the productive forces were developed in a certain period before the crimean khanate, we know that russia still imposes such a thesis that the crimean khanate was allegedly such a weak state in which did not exist, the economy was not developed, there were no certain attributes of statehood, yes... it was a state that lived only on begami and so on, but the practice and technologies of construction, they

show the development of the production forces and is a source of certain knowledge, and losing precisely that such sources, we almost lose the future er-er where mythologizing research that would give us additional knowledge, i was... yes, you know, i was amazed when the roof of the great khan mosque was dismantled, such a complex structure of the construction of the roof of the great khan mosque, without a single nail, structures were built there that were not even understandable to modern engineers, because the only thing they were able to do, the only decision they made was... dismantling this particular roof, but that is, the construction was so complex

, the roof itself at the great khan mosque, but on today we have lost this structure, we have a modern one, you are absolutely right, modern materials, modern technologies, modern tiles, which do not correspond either to the era of construction or to the technologies of that time. and it seems to me that the integrity of the complex has even been lost a little, when one part of the complex is under one department of construction and materials and technologies, and the other part is under another. elmira, you mentioned unesco, and we know that the khan's palace, it was included by ukraine in the previous lists. for inclusion in the objects of cultural heritage of world importance, but not

finally included, but unesco can somehow influence russia, stop this misery and still force the occupier not to destroy the khan's palace, but to carry out exclusively restoration work, not repair work. and did we, as a state, address this issue to unesco? yes, we are from... the state of ukraine has done everything in its power to preserve not only this monument, but all objects that are under the influence of the occupation authorities today, yes, the fact is that russia not only rebuilds the bagchesarai khan palace, conducts illegal archaeological excavations in the occupied territories, relocates museums. from the territory occupied to the russian federation and even from the newly occupied territories, certain museum

values ​​are transported to the territory of the occupied crimea, and russia appropriates cultural values ​​and objects of cultural heritage together with cultural institutions, it uses them for military purposes, to date certain are already known the facts use of archaeological monuments of crimea, which are located in the north of the peninsula as fortifications, of course. it is rebuilding certain monuments, and we have recorded all these facts and are passing them on to the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, the ministry of culture and information policy. as a result of such work, there is a decision by unesco to conduct annual monitoring of the state of protection of objects of cultural heritage, science,

culture, religion, i.e. in all areas of unesco's mandate, but... the problem is that international law, in particular in the matter of protection objects of cultural heritage during of the armed conflict, the issue of responsibility is very easily spelled out, and it is extremely and extremely difficult to hold russia responsible for these objects, and i think that this is exactly the case... it will be such a task for ukraine in the future to become at the forefront of the processes of a more thorough consideration of the norms of international law, regarding the prosecution of people involved in

crimes against cultural heritage, by the way, on july 4-5, our organization crimean institute of strategic studies, together with the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, together with the ministry of culture and information policy, as well as our partners, all-ukrainian organizations of international law, are holding a conference dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the hague convention and the 25th anniversary of the second protocol, and in focus. of this conference will be the question of criminal liability for crimes against cultural heritage. well, unfortunately, unfortunately, it is not some kind of news that empires steal cultural values, even old empires, which seem to be civilized now, still keep a lot in their museums cultural values ​​from other countries, it would be

good to actually return them and, after all, to get rid of the consequences of this imperialism in general, but i... if we talk not only about the khan palace, not only about directly cultural values, in general about life in crimea, here now is the season, we see , for example, in kyiv that the beaches, on the rivers , are full of people, and here are the shots from the crimean beaches, which are unusually empty, why is this happening, has russia stopped sending these right-wing activists to sanatoriums? the military no longer risk even them, me i understand that a tourist by himself, well, he is unlikely to go to crimea, well, is he a very risky one, who is ready for adventure, to put it mildly, yes, but we know that the russians developed this organized tourism, now the beaches show that even this organized there is not so much tourism anymore, do you have any data

on what is happening with tourism in crimea now, well... you know, i have always been quite skeptical of the russians' efforts to create a tourist region from crimea, as it seems to me that all people who understand russia's intentions regarding the possible seizure of certain territories, we understood that all this was done for military purposes, and sooner or later this story with crimea, an alleged tourist region, would have ended, but today we... it seems that this is the situation that i now see in your footage, it very clearly shows the intention of ukraine regarding crimea, and the citizens of ukraine who are in the territory of crimea today, they are happy to perceive such a wonderful picture, it seems to me. yes, let me remind you of this

sacramental phrase of a russian tourist, mamochka mamulya. it is necessary to get out of here, it is necessary let's get out of here, let's address this phrase to all russians who are illegally staying on the territory of the peninsula and let's return to other issues, the prime minister, mr. shmegal, made a statement about what crimea will be like after the liberation, he called what exactly will happen there to develop, and in particular , it was also about tourism development, you say that you are skeptical of russia's attempts. to develop tourism in crimea, but ukraine can turn crimea into such a tourist mecca? you know, this is a difficult question. i think the first thing we have to do is to resolve certain questions about the protection of our borders, because this

crazy neighbor, crazy neighbor, yes, she will not go anywhere from us, and we must do everything so that any of her efforts, even looking in our direction, are accepted. as an intention regarding the seizure, you understand, so first of all, what we need is to ensure such security of our borders, regarding further actions, then i think that yes, indeed, because crimea is wonderful, you know, yesterday i literally thought a little bit about that , what can be in crimea and about itself in crimea. personally came to this conclusion, that, first of all, you can study history, world history through the sights of crimea, it is

unique from this point of view and from the point of view of world history, including the history of humanity, and we have a lot of different sights, starting with the neanderthals and ending with modern history, the crimea is wonderful from the point of view, it is picturesque, extremely. was such an inspiration for poets, and for writers, and for artists, and he can be like that, this is a health center, this is the homeland of the crimean tatars, and it seems to me that if we return to the political issue, regarding the granting of status crimea, crimean tatar territorial and national autonomy, that's it... don't be afraid of this issue, then crimea can become the most beautiful city on earth, the way we all see it, but before that we need

to do a lot of work, first of all, regarding the decolonization and history of crimea, regarding the decolonization of the territory, regarding the reinterpretation of the history of crimea, including which is a part. history of ukraine, regarding the reinterpretation of certain historical personalities, certain historical events, and then, perhaps, we will form that, that our new vision of crimea as an integral part of the state of ukraine. thank you. gos was in direct contact with us, an expert of the crimean institute of strategic studies. and really make crimea the way the leader of the crimean people , noman chilibihan, together with his associate

jafer tseidamet, dreamed of making it, and make such a second switzerland in crimea. and finally, we will show you how russia day was celebrated in crimea, if possible, but there are our people in crimea, and they do not give up, we see the symbol of the partisan movement, and also burning. russian flag, i hope for such a positive note, and we can see, i hope that this is the fate of all russian flags on the peninsula, this is how we finish our beraber together program, a project jointly made by the espresso tv channel and the first crimean tatar tv channel atr, and us two presenters, andrii yanitskyi and gulsum khalilova, see you in korushken, korushkenji. there are discounts that represent

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