says, you know, but we need the european integration of ukraine, let's join the berehiv district to horshchyn, well , this is our demand, you admit that this is the territory of hungary, the same thing does not occur to anyone, however, not a single hungarian prime minister to the minister, and if it falls, then it will be the last day of this prime minister's stay in the european union, in nato, everything will end in a few days, here is the talk... it is simply about neutral status, about the demilitarization of the country, about such here are things that are also absolutely outrageous, here and there along with this, they can look like topics for negotiation, because we can demand the same thing from russia, demilitarization, say, of the russian-ukrainian border, etc., neutral status of belarus, that is , no... no one said that these conditions of ours

will be fulfilled , but this is what diplomats discuss at conferences, but when it comes to the territory of another state, all negotiations end immediately, by the way, notice how the text of such an agreement, which was discussed in istanbul in 2022, looked like, the occupied territories were also removed there from under the influence of this agreements, there are special articles where it is written that in crimea there are some... other territories of such, such, such, such, such, such articles do not apply, that is, even there it was clear to putin that no one would recognize russian status territories of ukraine, here he decided to go even further, this indicates that he is not going to conduct any battles, that is, russia, but now we are talking in the context of summits, in the context of meetings, in the context of... possible communiques, this means

that russia to participate in any peaceful there will be no conferences, well, maybe, if and if we do, then according to these, as they say, the result will be the same, well , of course, they won’t, they, they can come with putin’s program, if they think that they have there is no military force behind... drinking these territories and others, they may consider the ceasefire that i told you about, the ceasefire on the line of contact of the parties, as a compromise, here we are, let's say, in zaporizhzhia, they are in melitopol, we are in kherson, they are located in novy kakhovtsi, ceasefire, everything, at the same time they will continue to consider zaporizhzhia and kherson as russian cities occupied by ukraine. and we will consider,

of course, all these regions, which will be, which they will be located, as ukrainian land occupied by the russians, but this is simple, i say, this is the logic of the middle eastern conflict, why it cannot be resolved, because, let's say, there the main idea of ​​the palestinian movement, and this brings it closer to russia, is not the denial of israel's right to exist, you can sit down, that's how it is there were a million times to draw some maps. to do something there, there will be so much here, there will be so much here, there will be such control, here there will be all kinds of control, then a simple thing is proposed, let’s recognize israel’s right to exist, well, no one is for such political power, this is the peaceful palestinian population of the so-called will vote, she will lose the election, and because there is no way to solve this, just to achieve a ceasefire, which is currently happening in the near future, and don't you think that putin

is actually trying to make it happen with such ... statements ceasefire, that is, he raises the stakes here, look, we claim that part of kherson region, zaporizhzhia, donetsk region that is not occupied, but listen, let's go to some kind of peace conference, and let's suppose we agree on i think that's not quite the case, andrei, he creates a platform for such an opportunity, if he has the necessary. he does not believe at all that he should conduct any negotiations with ukraine, he believes that he can dictate a certain decision if he has this need. ukraine is not a subject for him negotiations, but simply some territory there, conditionally speaking, which is under the control of the west and the west, he can offer such an option, if he has a need at the moment, if he decides that there will be a further war, it is not, he cannot from..

let's say that the war should be frozen, i say president zelensky, we can't afford to freeze the conflict, putin can't either, but this is not a case when he decides that he can, that the conflict is possible. freeze and that in this situation of freezing of the conflict on the contact line, wherever it may be, would be a better case for ukraine than the continuation of hostilities. that 's all. how should the west react to this? how will the event react to these statements? well, how should ukraine react? and we see the west. how does it respond to any statements: the measure raises rates, the measure tightens sanctions against russia, the measure allows ukraine to strike with american and other western weapons on the territory of the russian federation. the west supplies v-16, the west is thinking of increasing the supply

of air defense systems, and what can allow another event? he cannot recognize the fact that the regions of ukraine are occupied by the russian federation and are the territory of russia, how can he do that? even. for someone to have a huge desire, it is impossible, because it undermines international law, you can see that even those countries that are in better relations with the russian federation, let's say a country of the global south, they don't talk, let's talk about, let's ukraine recognizes its occupied regions as part of russia, even china does not say so, does not say, it says what we want cessation of hostilities and further negotiations. but here is this idea, even china will never say it, because for china the very idea that it recognizes the annexation of foreign territory is dangerous from the point of view of its own territorial disputes with other countries, that is, no country, only some country that is completely

dependent on moscow can afford the luxury of recognizing the occupied ukrainian regions as russian, but then again, what kind of country should it be? this is oleksandr lukashenko, he was in crimea, he was the whole time. says: invite me to the crimea, i will go to the crimea, i will fly to the crimea through the russian airspace, but i will not fly there, uh, it has been 10 years since lukashenko, who can be driven across the table with his face, but not even him, he was even forced to meet with the president of abkhazia, he met in private, though in a private manner, with the president of self-proclaimed abkhazia, aslan bjania, who accompanied him... he went to minsk, but abkhazia is a type of self-proclaimed sovereign state, and a meeting with its leader, it can look like within the framework of peaceful ones there was an effort, a search for a dialogue, anything, but he did not recognize its independence, he

just held a private meeting, but unofficially, did not meet with the head of state, there were no flags there, you understand, and he still did not recognize southern abkhazia. did not open belarusian embassies there, it would seem, lukashenko, then the question arises, who can be forced to admit this? north korea, well north korea, is not something to force, north korea may have recognized the independence of the dpr, lpr, but it did not recognize their joining the russian federation, they i didn't make any statements about this, well, as they say, that's all, everything is in the future, apparently , but you see, even they don't do that. the republic of south ossetia can afford such a thing, they recognized both that and the other somewhere, but it is also not a state, at the level of states that have seats in the united nations, it is very difficult to do everything, and putin is knows very well, and that is why it is very

important to him that ukraine itself, if ukraine recognizes its regions as russian, this opens up an opportunity for a wide recognition of others the borders of the russian federation, as you say, from an international point of view, but it is also unknown, you know, this is also a question, because many countries may believe that ukraine did it under duress, and still will not recognize it, if we are talking about sanctions , an interesting thing, i asked mr. volodymyr orysk about this, and here we come back to the sanctions pressure, and this week, this sanctions pressure, it has increased significantly, because the united states of america ... is putting up with sanctions against a number of legal entities, and what they make a whole series of different decisions to to show that they will act more harshly. that is, if you are not able to listen to us, we will act without any consideration of the consequences of our actions. this is not only the basis , i am saying, it is not only a sanction, it is permission to strike

on russian territory, and by the way, what was said in berlin about the need to supply more air defense systems and so on and so forth. i think it's all in esc's logic. you understand, these two and a half years are already almost, yes, it will be 2 and a half years in august, they took place in as part of the fact that russia raised rates every day, and... the west kept saying: let's be careful not to allow a serious escalation. now there is no such thing. this, by the way, started two years later. two years of the great war have ended, and french president emmanuel macron, in fact, the first among western leaders, said that he wants russia to live in a situation of strategic uncertainty, because until that moment the west itself lived in a situation of strategic uncertainty. and now we can say that they have all changed roles. now in the situation strategic uncertainty. lives, by and large, so does russia, the russians do not know what

will be used against them next, whether some western missiles and bombs will fall on their heads, whether foreign troops will appear in ukraine, probably not, but again, what is not, when they could have said before, probably not about western weapons, the truth is, if you asked putin his generals, they can hit us with some western missiles, but no, well , they will be afraid of each other, that there is nothing to even think about here , it turned out that there is something about and this happened because the west stopped being afraid of russia, right? i don't think he was afraid, i think he believed that the russians would come to understand that they could not fulfill their goals, that these goals that putin had set for himself in terms of taking over ukraine, they were unattainable, and therefore we had to agree on some positions that... will record this fact, let's say this, and putin is not ready to understand it, well, if he is not ready to understand it, he

will be made to understand it by various means, from economic to military. father and the whole story. and china, we see what is here gradually, very carefully, with very small steps, after all, the united states of america, not europe, namely the united states of america, not the european union, are trying to put pressure on china, that is... with such small microsteps, such small, small movements, to send the message that, well, listen, you don't need to help russia, china will react to this somehow, at least now we don't see that there is such a reaction, it will mean that the united states, maybe the allies of the united states of america will increase this pressure on china, i think it's in the creek the same... the attitude towards moscow that you and i talked about, you know, when

united states secretary of state anthony blinken was in beijing, he publicly warned the president of the people's republic of china, xizen ping, that if chinese companies continued to do business with moscow , then the united states will do what china is not doing, which is to let china itself put an end to the cooperation of its companies with the russian federation, as far as i understand. the american secretary of state was not heard, was not heard precisely from that point of view, of which putin has not heard, the west does not hear, the west will not dare, they will not be able to, it is not profitable for them, they will be careful, these are not exactly sanctions against china, as you understand, well, yes, these are sanctions against chinese companies that cooperate with russia, but it was the same with russia at first, of course, in the 14th year, 15th, 17th, even 22nd, this is a signal, by the way, if we follow the communique of the group of seven, there about cooperation between russia and china mentioned in the part

that talks about the war in ukraine, and mentioned in the parts that talk about china. and by the way, there is one more very important decision, this is the introduction of a european tariff on chinese electric cars, to the 10% tariff that existed until now, another 38% tariff was added, well, now imagine that you are shizenping, what do you feel, how much ? billions of dollars are floating past you on the river on the yangtze river there, even there, there is even a blow to companies that are residents of the european union, for example, germany, we know that in germany, what is dumb, that german car manufacturers are in china, that is, they have their own factories, and there, too, although not so significant, but customs too and by the way, olaf scholz tried to do his best. to oppose this decision, why he had a birthday, they sang olaf to him there, everyone there stroked his

fox, everyone was very nice, but at the same time they absolutely did not agree with his proposals, to postpone this decision, and now, as you see , he also has to block sanctions against russia in the european union, now germany is blocking sanctions, not hungary, because she is again afraid that the introduction of new sanctions may... hit her own business, but i am sure that this german resistance will be overcome, because we live in a completely new logic, if we talk about the peace summit. the action that is happening right now and, by the way, you can watch now in our half-window a live broadcast, from switzerland, the speeches are taking place, the heads of various states, yes, the event is important, extremely important, and we have already identified it, but we are well we understand that the peace summit will not lead to peace,

well, i think that terminology is important here, you see, how can we not... call security agreements, i will guess about security guarantees, because these are not security guarantees at all, these are agreements that provide that the states that sign them with ukraine, they will help ukraine in the event of future wars with the russian federation, and this is not bad, because it is better , than not helping, because we understand that in the future, again, if we don't join nato, there will be many, they will be destructive, they will be brutal, and the more weapons and aid we have, the more chances that russia or these... actions will not be localized, or will not hold them, because again the russians do not attack the strong, the same is true of the peace summit, if it were called a support summit, maybe it would not cause conflicting emotions to anyone, it is absolutely obvious that the peace summit in switzerland cannot lead to of peace, it seems to me, explained in this program why a peace agreement between russia and ukraine is

unattainable, and the idea of ​​peace as a political solution should be discarded in... our own heads for the next decades of the 21st century. there will be no peace between russia and ukraine. peace between russia and ukraine has not been achieved. but the greater the world's support for ukraine, the greater the chance, firstly, of turning a high-intensity war into a low-intensity war. and that means fewer casualties in the years to come, and that means fewer bombings, and that means fewer casualties, and that means a return to more normalcy. life in the 20s and 30s of the 21st century, and secondly, it may mean an end to low -intensity warfare, it is clear that nobody likes the logic of freezing the conflict, but when we all come to the conclusion that freezing the conflict may be the only chance for survival for both ukraine and russia, in principle we can see that in the situation

we are in, we can achieve our goals, but freezing can also be on different terms, you know, freezing. in which we receive security guarantees, this is not at all the freezing in which we do not receive them, because what is the freezing of the conflict with security guarantees, ukraine is invited to nato, the security guarantee for these territories, which we currently control, is important, to make them bigger than they are now but this too, during the war, no one can say what will happen in the future, but this basically means that we are going to... return our territories by political means, and we are part of the defense alliance, and our allies will also do everything so that these territories are returned politically, which means that the pressure on russia will continue even after this ceasefire, or there is another freezing of the conflict, which simply stops the fire and we will get nothing except these agreements, which promise us that next time,

when you are attacked in half a year or a year, then we will give you weapons as soon as possible. that is, it is a matter of survival, because we understand that this is a war - a war that will answer the question of whether in the coming years the ukrainian state or the russian federation will exist on the political map of the world, will cover all its borders and will begin to embody the project, the soviet union 2:0, that's all, a very simple thing, a thing that can turn into new millions of refugees, and new hundreds of thousands of victims, this is also a reality, so the bigger the support for the world... nevertheless, russia will have a chance to freeze the conflict on its own terms, this is a very simple formula. 56 at this peace summit of heads of state, presidents, prime ministers, some of the heads according to the constitution of this country are determined, so we are now seeing the speech of president macron, which

means that in fact only those have come. who consider themselves to such a civilized world, to the western world, right? but if we are talking about a part of up to 30 representatives there, these are ministers of foreign affairs or of a lower category, by the way, this is also what belongs to the civilized world, there are allies of the west in various regions of the world, we saw president kenny, well, i think he spoke second or third, or the president of argentina, or the head of ghana, they are the first, well, let's say that... . now argentina is trying to relate itself to the civilized world correctly, the civilized world is not geography, it is values, that is, we are not really talking about the fact that everyone west of ukraine is there. but less so, we talked about the fact that some of the representatives who are now at the global peace summit, may not agree, not sign, this

is possible, that is, that is, after all, a certain number of countries, conditionally speaking, will be limited only to presence, but presence is support, depending on what documents will be there signed, nothing, these documents do not mean anything, they do not mean anything, of course, because it is important for russia. not what will be signed there, but who will come there, russia absolutely uninteresting content of any documents of the summit in switzerland, russia, can only consider the fact that someone is there present, by the fact of supporting ukraine, because if ukraine organizes a peace summit and you come there, and russia says that you did not go there, that it is not a summit, that it does not decide anything, that there is no need to go there, that zelenskyi is illegitimate, but you go there, so who do you support? of course, if you lower the level of presence, then you can

make such a bow to russia, as the presidents of brazil and south africa did. well, in general, the president of south africa was taken over today, i'm sorry, i don't really understand how he would come, even if he wanted to, he should at least become president again and then go somewhere, well, the current president, for now... well, he is already in place, he was re-elected today for a second term, but why did i mention the president, cyril maphosa, of south africa, that also an important point that we may not notice, but today the re-elected president of south africa, whom you know, has always treated putin with more respect than western leaders, but he was re-elected in exchange for the creation of a government of national unity. with the party whose leader was in ukraine during the war, he came on his own initiative, he met in lviv, he came, i think, met with the head of the lviv regional administration,

with the mayor of lviv andriy sadov, and he said that it was an unjust war, that russia was occupying ukraine, that south africa should support ukraine more seriously, and this man was then the leader of the opposition, and now the logic of the government of national unity, of course, leads to... to the fact that the politics of south africa itself will begin to change, it's just must be realized towards a greater understanding of our vision of war, because cyril ramophosa, if he wants to sit in the chair of the president of the country, in the chair of the president of the country, i assure you that he wants, who does not want, they say, if you have already been the president, then he will take into account such moments, and this will happen in many places, because the political process itself, it dictates a change in priorities, here we are with... now we are talking, marine le pen can win the parliamentary elections in france, her party, the national association, but earlier it would have been accurate the diagnosis of the fact that the pro-russian

political force is winning, and now marin lifen makes pro-ukrainian statements, says that russia has carried out the occupation of ukrainian lands, makes practically not such decisive statements as president macron, but roughly the same statements that macron made 2 years ago and... which were considered decisive at the time , so everyone realized that this is such a path, that russia is not on the right side of history, and those who want to be with it are also outside this side and outside the possibility of a civilized cooperation with the west, the majority of economic potential is still concentrated in the west, these are the people who met with zelenskiy at the summit near brindisi. they are exactly the people who control their governments, most of the world's economy, despite such a large population in china, india,

still most of the world's economy is the seven, not china, and for now, it will have to be reckoned with, even those who have other political values ​​and priorities. oleksandra talks about her father, who went to defend ukraine from the invaders. oleksandr kovton, with the call sign a student , almost never had anything to do with the army before the great war, he worked on the railway. the woman says she didn't talk much with her father because her parents lived separately, but the war changed everything. despite all the refusals of his relatives, he firmly decided to go to war. even a head injury he received in his youth did not stop the warrior. the man came. i didn't get in touch for a month and a half, he called me back and said, "daughter, hello, i'm fine, i'm alive, those were the very first words, and then i said to him, dad,

you know what's wrong with you, i say , was born i say, the fourth granddaughter, and he says, no, he says, no one told me, i say, yes, i say, you, i say, have four grandchildren, two grandsons and two granddaughters, he was so happy, he says, sasha, are you serious ? connection the man fought in the area of ​​the village of urozhayne of the volnuva district, served in a separate presidential regiment named after hetman bohdan khmelnytskyi. the daughter remembers that the most terrible moments were those when dad did not get in touch for longer than he promised. at the front, the student did not lose his positivity and did not even show his inner excitement. always said: "i will come soon, we will all be together" and everything will be fine. on march 15

, 2024, he went to the position and was supposed to... return in a few weeks, but the woman did not wait for an answer, later she began to independently search for information about her father, but without results it seemed to me that either he was captured or he was very badly wounded, these are the only two versions i have, but i could not even think about the fact that he died, and literally 40 minutes later someone knocks on me at the door, i open it, and my mother is standing all... in tears, i say what is it, i say what's with dad, she says, dad is not there, i say, why is he not, what are you kidding, she says, to joke with such a person, she says, you can't, i say , are you serious, she tells me, yes, i'm here in the taco hall, i spat on the wall. oleksandra could not believe that this is the father of identification itself, later it became known that the brigade was covered by tank shelling, and it is difficult to accurately learn the details of the event, because the comrade who witnessed the tragedy is in a coma to this day. defender. served

two weeks to a year, and his older brother, oleg, cannot recover from the tragedy. he remembers a relative with tears in his eyes, because there was a close connection between them. they were at zero for 12 days each, and they only rested for three days at most, or even less. the last time, especially before this, how he died when they arrived only to relax, then on the second day he immediately called in the morning. said that my brother was going, i don’t know how long, anxiety, we are all going, for 20 days exactly, well, it turned out that way, my brother was always a fighter, he was a strong, strong guy, he was respected by all his friends, nowadays the family often comes to the walk of fame to his the hero, the grandchildren bring flowers, the youngest kisses the photo every time he sees his grandfather, and the daughter made a tattoo

on... in memory of her father. everyone believes that alexander is watching over them from heaven and is proud of his family. lyubov gerashchenko, oleksandr kuga, espresso, bila tserkva. greetings to all viewers of espresso, i am anna yavomelnyk and the news editorial office is ready to tell you about the main thing for this hour. the first global peace summit is ending today in bürgenstock, switzerland, where 100 delegations from all regions and continents are looking for ways to establish a just and lasting peace in ukraine. espresso correspondent tetyana vysotska follows the course of events. my greetings, my friend. so what is happening now?