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we have a minute left, zelenskyi in berlin said that ukraine has such plans to build up to a gigawatt of generation this year, how realistic is it, i will ask you to be very brief, well, i have already commented on this, i am sure that the president of ukraine, no i know who introduced vamana, unfortunately, it is impossible to build a new generation for 1 g, what did he mean.
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yes, i am thinking there on trypilskyi, at which other power stations, on brushtynskaya , dobrotvor, and so on , power units with a total capacity of 1 gw will be repaired, which by the winter season will be put into operation, and not new power plants for 1 g, it is impossible to understand, they understood you and heard you, thank you, ivan plachko, minister of fuel and energy in 99 2005, 2006 and chairman of the all-ukrainian union council. the assembly was with us, dear friends, we still have an hour and a half marathon ahead of us, please stay with espresso, we still have a list of interesting guests, and we have many more topics we want to discuss, meanwhile our colleague, maria gurska, and her program close to politics, close to the world, so stay, traditionally she conducts her conversations with pawel koval, a polish politician. it's about politics
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, about the world maria gurska, journalist of the ukrainian tv channel espresso and editor-in-chief of the eu sisters portal, we talk with the head of the committee on foreign affairs of the polish sejm and the head of the council for cooperation with ukraine pawel koval. i congratulate you. good day. an incredibly active week. the international events that we will analyze in this program are important for ukraine, poland and the whole world. switzerland is a global peace summit. and before that still italy. that's right, in the meantime, italy and the g7 meeting. we can say that if... the term diplomatic
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offensive exists in politics, then, dear, it will look exactly like that in the textbooks. this is a diplomatic offensive by zelenskyi and his team, and they should cover the most important topics for ukraine everywhere. but at the same time, it can be said that this week is decisive for the situation for several months ahead, regarding what support will look like, how the world will help ukraine. this weekend is when our program in switzerland is released global peace summit. we can already say that from 160 invited countries. the summit is attended by about 90 people, several key political players are missing, and we understand that this summit will not end in peace. what is the meaning of this event? the significance of the summit is obvious, it is known that these are not peace talks, this summit is only called peaceful, because it concerns the conditions on which this peace will be established, when it is already possible and fair. and in my opinion, it is very good that ukraine is the first to discuss this issue secondly, it attracts to this discussion of others, and
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thirdly, these others also include those countries that are difficult partners in this discussion, because they are not enemies of ukraine, but often simply do not feel these problems, namely the countries of the so-called global south, therefore, i believe that this event is important, at least for the reasons i have listed, but it is also about mobilizing the event, ukraine needs it, because this is how diplomacy, the international order, and diplomatic traditions work all the time. this is not about what could have been there peace would be declared, because there were no peace negotiations. it is important to have a discussion with countries that, as it is now customary to elegantly formulate, have a different perspective, that is, they do not support russia, but at the same time they do not directly support ukraine, after all. they don't know what to do,
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or they are playing a double game, many of these countries came to the summit, i had a similar experience during my visit to new york, i asked our ambassador to organize a lunch with those... we and the representatives of such countries in un, which do not have a clear position. i didn't suggest to talk with iran, because iran is part of the axis of evil, but for example with india, maybe with some african countries, and with countries in the middle east, and with south africa, or with the holy see. there are countries that need arguments, we are talking about political and international forces that should receive convincing signals from us every day. our role is to say. we actively demonstrate this against russia's policy, to give reasons. and you know, i think from that perspective, this summit makes a lot of sense. week the diplomatic offensive began with the recovery conference in berlin. the goal of this
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annual recovery conference is to find funds, opportunities and investments to address the aftermath of the war in ukraine caused by putin's missiles. i would like to say three aspects: the first very general one is that this conference has been prepared with great difficulty, it is a very important annual conference, a continuation of previous such events in lugano and then in london. now it was berlin, next year it will be italy, this is the most important conference on issues of reconstruction of ukraine with participation. this is the first point, i believe that ukraine demonstrated its commitment, important statements were made, and now we are approaching the second point of the political results
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of this conference, probably the most concentrated in the speech of ursula fonderlajen, the president of the european commission. the key points from her speech at the conference were that russian money will be used to restore ukraine, to arm ukraine, first of all, because, let me remind you, there was a discussion whether to use money or only interest, whether to cut them for recovery, i.e. sometime in the future, sometimes for weapons, i.e. now this second dilemma was already solved in promowinder, she has no doubt that the money must be used now, hence the information about russian money, plus the second message that 25 negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu will begin in june, which hungary has so far disputed. and now this is a publicized fact, so there was a powerful political charge at the conference and the third point - the polish delegation. it's no secret that we were also there, you maria, were at this conference, could see how the polish delegation, it seems to me, demonstrated the high involvement of poland, it was the largest
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such conference to date. there were about 20 local self-government bodies from two dozen business entities and banks, there were experts, there were poles in positions in international organizations. in my opinion, in total, there were more than 100 people who participated in the events in various ways, for my part, as the head of the council for cooperation with ukraine, i acted on behalf of prime minister donald tusk, and tried to organize as many events as possible in parallel with the official program, this polish-french breakfast to help ukraine, where our joint steps were announced and the polish-slovak meeting with the vice prime minister of slovakia and the polish-german meeting of local governments and very solid talks with...
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i i would like to dwell separately on some of the facts mentioned by you and talk about them in more detail. let's start with energy, which was one of the most important topics of the conference in berlin. energy crisis, and it is currently unknown how the situation may turn out in a critical winter, how the country will survive this winter in general. there were many discussions about energy, the main theses were voiced in berlin: ukraine needs investors, western loans and insurance guarantees. how quickly can it be implemented? energy supply, which means that the situation of two years ago will repeat itself, but to a greater extent, because the russians have again
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focused on attacks on energy, on sources of energy production, we are talking about problems with the supply of heat in ukrainian homes, and the question is that we are now we can... the answer is probably clear: west sees this problem and knows that it must be solved, because if not, then we will be threatened by the movement of migrants who will simply go to the west for warmth or. electricity, no one wants it. it would be catastrophic, it would put ukraine and the west even more, because we simply had to accept the next groups of refugees, who can be called energy refugees due to the war, such a specific group. we, of course, want to avoid this, each of the eu countries. on the eve of the conference in berlin, there was another conference of great importance, although little was discussed. such internal conference of the g7 countries and their.
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logistics, i said on behalf of poland that we can additionally invest in the european energy community, it is able to settle matters qualitatively and quickly, buy the appropriate generators and equipment, secondly, we collect some more money from polish companies that could support ukraine in the energy crisis, thirdly, we are preparing a plan with... the support of kharkiv, if the situation in kharkiv worsens, especially in the context of energy and heat. it's tactical question, but each country promised something. i left in a very optimistic mood, because i saw that the process was going on. in the energy context, it is also important to look at the perspective, it is said that ukraine is rebuilding its energy system to a different one. this is not just a repetition of what happened before the bombing. in my opinion, ukraine will eventually be a very... modern country in terms of energy, because everything that is happening today is based on
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modern technologies and green energy. i know it sounds a little strange today, because there is a war going on, but i know the country is going in that direction, and after the war it will be a very added cost. of course, this is faint consolation during missile attacks, but i bring it up because it's interesting. so that the ukrainians don't freeze, so that they can resist? i think our viewers would like to hear that in berlin there was talk of a specific plan for this winter, i often criticize international institutions, but i saw international institutions that understand that we are close to a crisis, you need to have a plan, and this plan there are very important words, it is also about protection of ukrainian. german chancellor olaf scholz said in berlin that ukraine will receive patriots, cheetahs and new iriste systems. and
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when, in your opinion, is it possible for ukraine to receive taurus, and what should be done so that putin does not expel ukrainians from their land with missiles? one political fact that seems to me very important for this week is the result of the european elections in france. it may seem that it has little to do with ukraine, but it is not so. the election showed great. as a result , president macron called an election, well, we let's see who wins in the end, the center left or the parties associated with le pen. sorry, sociology clearly speaks about the second option. not to the end, this position of the united left is not so bad, plus the party of president macron revival, it can once have a good effect, well, it depends on how they conduct the campaign, that's right. 50 on 50, real half and half, with bated breath, we will follow what
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is happening in france, it is closely related to the general situation in europe, because recently the french president macron put pressure on federal chancellor scholze, as well as the entire west, so that ukraine receives long-range weapons. federal chancellor scholz got a very bad result in the european elections, but he still hasn't decided to hand over the tauruses to ukraine, but i believe he will because he is under international pressure and will eventually. of russia, as well as the decision on frozen russian assets, how painful is the news for russia? there is key bad news for russia, and russia now caters only for bad news, i am talking about the authorities in russia, that the west is mobilized more than ever.
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sequence of events: normandy took place without putin, we still remember how putin visited normandy after 13-14 years.
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and he loses money for the war. and at the same time, he loses funds for the war, because he conducts it very intensively. i am constantly reminded of the kharkiv moment. my thesis is that this is a pivotal moment in this war and please look what is happening. finally, we see in kharkiv that putin does not have enough strength, not only to conquer kharkiv, but also to advance as he wants. of course, the russians are pressing, but not by much on the scale that putin would like. french president emmanuel macron wants to create a coalition of western countries. to send military instructors to ukraine, dievelt writes about it, what is the current position of poland regarding this coalition of instructors and how effective do you think this decision can be? we will wait for the details of macron's proposal. poland is obviously one of the countries that help the most militarily, but how exactly this will technically work out,
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who goes where, where the training takes place, from my point of view, it is almost not at issue here about a political decision. this is a very expert decision. is it no secret that poland has always helped in the training of the ukrainian army? this is already our tradition, but how all this will work technically, well, we'll see. the european commission continues the temporary protection of ukrainian refugees in the eu from march 5 , 2025 to march 4, 2026. it is about the fact that due to putin's attacks on ukrainian infrastructure, europe recognizes that currently in... we are speaking too generally, you, maria, have personal experience of everything that is happening in ukraine. in large cities of ukraine, daily problems with energy supply, it's cold in winter, if it was winter today, houses would
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n't be heated, if it were winter today, many cities wouldn't be able to boil water, with you every week the situation looks a little different, we have a different approach to her, every day everything depends on the specific situation at the front, and this situation depends on the extent to which the russians are able to attack, and the west to support ukraine militarily and politically, i generally believe that this is a single whole, military support also means political, and political, seriously, also means military support, and
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ukraine has this support, you mentioned the statement of ursula fonderlyen, the president. ukraine has taken all the necessary steps to start negotiations on eu accession this month. so what's the next step, what happens next? this is a decision to start the next stage of negotiations, because de facto negotiations have already been prepared. after all, this is not a secret, it is said that this should happen before the hungarian presidency begins. this hungarian presidency falls on the second half of this year, then goes. let's see how it will be with hungary, we never know until the end. at this time we will also see changes in the european commission, as the new european parliament will meet and there will be many changes at the highest levels of government in the eu. there will be a new commissioner for enlargement, it will be a new matter, it will happen in this half year, and then the polish presidency will come. i assume that
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the new eu government has already stabilized and we hope that these negotiations will be accelerated in any case, but... let's not create illusions, ukraine is already the fastest by. i don't think anyone in history has gone faster, it's much faster than poland, that's obvious. there is a war, but even in this version everything will last 2-3 years, the maximum, in my opinion, can be three or four years. what exactly will happen at the very beginning of these negotiations? some work has already been done earlier, because it is already known what the positions of individual countries are. the commission is collecting everything, preparing for the negotiation, it is in separate sectors. negotiating groups are created: the ukrainian side plus the commission, i.e. the european union , and one by one begins. in the case of ukraine, on which sector the discussion can start first. but they will be discussed at the same time, and then they will be closed one by one, and this difference, which exists in the european union, in
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the case of small and large countries, will be felt here. for example, we understand that there are some small countries that are negotiating, like, for example, moldova, but smaller countries naturally have fewer problems, usually around two or three, and let's say, in moldova, for example, there may be a problem with winemaking, because european countries will decide in which degrees, on what conditions to let in on... even after the war, every element in the case of ukraine will probably be difficult, because no matter what we touch, ukraine is in some sense a competition, there will always be someone who will have certain interests, and moreover separate countries will try to solve their own small interests, for example, someone has a problem because this someone wants to squeeze out of ukraine more rights for the hungarian minority. the hungarians will definitely raise this topic as a condition for various elements of the negotiations, even not related to them. there will be a conversation about something else. and they will say, we
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will give in, but only after you give in, so a difficult negotiation marathon awaits ukraine. let's talk about the results of the european parliament elections that the world learned about this week. you briefly analyzed the situation in france, where first we saw the victory of the far-right, and then the dissolution of the parliament. poland, how will it affect our countries? there is good news in poland, because in poland the centrist liberal forces are achieving the greatest success, i.e a civil coalition, a strongly pro-european party, as well as the third way and the left. from the polish point of view, this is good news. now i turn to the ukrainian point of view. i believe that this... is also good news, because these are the parties that advocate negotiations with the eu and the development of cooperation with ukraine, there is a third good news, it is that globally, despite the ominous forecasts, there are
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complaints of what the future of europe will be, so in fact, if you count the result across europe, similar to what happened before, namely the main parties, the european people's party, socialists, and liberals passed with almost the same results as they had, that is, the majority will be similar, and realistically. not much will change and the fourth news is a bit bad, especially for france, where le pen's national front got a good result, and if it happened again in the election, it would mean trouble. i am talking about the presidential and parliamentary elections in france, and also not the best news from germany, because here the alternative for germany achieved a good result in the part of the country that was once part of the gdr. in the confederation was also successful in poland. in poland, many believe that
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this is a lot and dangerous, but again, if we compare it with what is happening in germany and france, then this is a rather insignificant result, that is, how to look at it, in the context of poland, the confederation is mainly nationalistic, there is a very anti-ukrainian and anti-european party,
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svobody, the national association of the defense industry of ukraine, once again at the highest level acquaints western allies with the potential of our country's weapons. this time, the appeal for joint implementation of projects is aimed at american projects partners hundreds of industry representatives came to washington for a defense conference. the event will be opened by the former special representative of the us state department for ukraine, kurt walker. he is convinced that the joint implementation of innovations will help ukraine win the war. for this defense industry conference , many people with a great deal of practical experience and knowledge have come here to virginia. they are also defense companies that are interested in helping ukraine attract more of our know-how and technologies to build partnerships with ukrainian companies. a lot of useful things can come out of such cooperation. ukrainian representatives also talk about their interest in the development of close industrial cooperation with the usa. this is serhii skoryk, commercial
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