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political regarding granting the status of crimea, crimean tatar territorial and national autonomy, so don't be afraid of this issue, crimea can become the most beautiful city on earth, as we all see it, but before that we need to do a lot of work, first of all , regarding decolonization. the history of crimea, regarding the decolonization of the territory, regarding the reinterpretation of the history of crimea, including that which is part of the history of ukraine, regarding the reinterpretation of certain historical personalities, certain historical events, and then, perhaps, we will form that, that is our new vision of crimea as inseparable. part of the state of ukraine. thank
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you. chokhsagum, savirokhan, elmira blyalimova cheygos , an expert of the crimean institute of strategic studies, was in direct contact with us, and indeed to make crimea the way the leader of the crimean people, noman chilibihan, together with his colleague jafer tseidamet, dreamed of making it, and to make such a second switzerland in crimea. and finally, we will show you how russia day was celebrated. in crimea, if possible, but there are our people in crimea, and they do not surrender, we see a symbol partisan movement, and also the burning russian flag, i hope for such a positive note, and yes, yes, hope that this is the fate of all russian flags on the peninsula. this concludes our program, beraber together, a project jointly produced by the espresso tv channel and the first crimean tatar tv channel. and the two of us
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are hosted by andriy yanitskyi and gulsum khalilova, koroskenju, koreskenju, events, events that are happening right now and affect our lives, of course, the news feed reports about them, but it is not enough to know what is happening, it is necessary understand. requested experts soberly evaluate events, analyze them, modeling our future. every saturday at 13:10 with a repeat on sunday at 10:10. studio zahid with anton borkovsky at espresso. every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world. if you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday political club. every saturday at espress. on the air saturday political club andriy
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smoliy and vitaly portnikov, good evening everyone, and by the way, we just listened to the speech of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi on the global peace summit, we will also talk about it today, and about the global summit and , in principle, all agreements and negotiations. which are currently ongoing between ukraine and other countries, and a lot of other interesting and important things that happened during this week. and now, let's start with the traditional topic, with what is happening in our country at the front, and we already have our first guest. oleksandr kovalenko, a military-political spectator of the group of information spratsiv. congratulations, mr. alexander. good evening. well, then, let's go let's try to start with where the most tense situation is now, where it is possible
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to stop the russians, where they continue to slip, let's try to sum up the week like this. the most dangerous zone is , after all, the pokrovsky direction, it is the most extremely dangerous, because the russians continued this same movement there, and they, at the same time, their main goal, let's start with this, after the capture of ocheretyn, their main goal became not so much advancing along the route 0.511 . in the direction of pokrovsk, how much to first of all form a completely safe one the zone south of ochereton, that is , the southern flank, which means that they intend to actually go to the left bank of the vovcha river, and they are now implementing this very plan, to go to the left bank of the reservoir and close it all. to the line of karolivka
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netailova, i.e. in this way, to completely er-er secure yourself on the southern flank, and then the appropriate decision will be made, or advance... 05:11 to pokrovsk, or through vozdvizhanka, which is quite likely, that precisely through the lifter will have an output of 0.5-04, this is included in their plans, or in the future, this is when there is a protected southern flank, this is the opening of the turkish direction, that is why it is the most dangerous area now in the combat zone, and the second most dangerous is yar, the area of time. yaru, because the russians have significantly increased their assault activity there, and it already applies not only to the canal sector, which is located east of chasova yaru and is a kind of entrance gate to the city itself, and the russians succeeded in the canal sector
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to the east in some houses and on to gain a foothold in the streets, and besides everything else, they they are pressing from the north, this is in the direction of bohdanivka-kalinivka. with the aim of capturing chasivyr from the south and entering the zhopnev sector, as well as advancing from the south in the direction of the hub and thus already exiting the south into the new sector, and from this it can be concluded that the main task of the russian occupiers is now at the time of the ravine, it is not as much as the urban battles and the exit a... to the city center in the future, as much as the coverage from the north and the south, that is , they will try to create a kind of encirclement of the city. mr. oleksandr, what is happening now at kharkivskyi i the vovchan direction, in principle, the directions
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that are talked about very often, if not often. we saw, according to the deep state maps, that there is some small advance there somewhere in the direction of vovchansk, on the other hand, we see that... our armed forces are quite actively pushing out the occupiers street by street in vovchansk itself, as is the situation there now, which are prospects? well, i would say that it is more of a kind of stagnation, because where they had an advance to the eastern locations in the direction of the quiet, then this is it, then it is not, it is such a swing, in vovchansk itself a very... interesting situation arose recently, when their assault unit, their assault unit, was surrounded at the factory, and on the one hand, apparently, if you look at the maps, there is control there, on the other hand, it is a unit , which is completely surrounded, it receives ammunition
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by drones, and food is received by drones, water also by drones, that is, it is an unreliable logistical element that can help them. hold this position, so in the near future, i think, there they will either surrender, or be two hundred, but if we speak in general about kharkiv oblast, then yes, a lot of attention is really paid to lipetsk, a lot of attention is paid to vovchansk, although, again, the most dangerous zones, locations where the russians have a situational, but still advancement, this is precisely the pokrovsky direction and kramatorsk district of chasvoyar. the situation in kharkiv region is more stable and controlled by the defense forces of ukraine. by the way, it can be assumed that the russians would really like to focus on the issue of occupying those territories, which they consider, according to vladimir putin, to be inalienable
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part of the russian federation. it is not for nothing that he says that let's end the war, as long as they withdraw their troops from the territory of donetsk region, luhansk region, kherson region and zaporizhzhia. it can be considered that it is not easy. political statements, but also part of military goals. well, looking at where they are really concentrating their main efforts now, then yes, we can say that the main goal for them today is donetsk region, that is, the performance that they staged in may, in kharkiv region, it is not so much a tactical goal or at the operational-tactical level, it is more like a political goal to start negotiations so that there is an opportunity to put pressure on ukraine. format we can open new ones, look, we can open new fronts, now you have two locations, but in a week sumyshchyna or chernihivshchyna will appear there, we can afford it, although in fact it's all the other way around, they can't they ca n't afford it and they don't have enough resources to
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fully use the contingent they have concentrated in the belgorod region to capture even such two small populated areas, such as vovchansk and leptsi, but... but it is in the combat zone along the battle line that donetsk region is the most hellish location, and the same can be said about the south, they became active, for example, in the robotyn area, and they have long became more active there, but now systematic, stable, constant assaults are taking place in the area of the robotansky ledge in the south, and similarly in the vremiv direction, that is , the border between the donetsk region and the zaporizhia region, and in the staromayorsky region, they catalyzed their offensive actions and even had situational advancement in the area of the village itself, so it can be said that for putin these territories are still a priority, and not the opening of new fronts. but i saw, by
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the way, in one of the periodicals that if the russians will advance at such a pace in order to capture the whole of donbas, khersonchik and zaporizhzhia, they will need 14 years, but you agree with this, with this assessment, and you can would agree if it were all standard, that is, if their promotion, it would be a constant, but we see that sometimes arises enough. unforeseen situations, and one of these situations was a series, this settlement could hold its defense for several months, several months, but for one reason or another, we will look at it according to the results of the investigation, which i hope will take place and will be proven quite fundamentally to the end, but the turn itself was lost for a few. days, instead of months, several days, so the advance was much faster than
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it could have been. on the other hand, during yar, yes, a small settlement, which is even smaller in terms of size, than bakhma, and the storming of temporary yar began simultaneously with the offensive campaign on avdiivka, at the beginning of october 2023, and avdiivka, which is also larger in area than... during yar, it is already occupied, around avdiivka they have occupied the territory of the russians is a buffer zone, and bakhmut as well, its occupation took place much faster than the current hostilities during the yar era, that is , it is also not an average static example of how the russians can seriously slow down near a populated place, it would seem that a lot of resources are being spent, but which is smaller in area than... the same avdiivka and bakhmut, but continues to block their advance, that is
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, a non-standard approach here, and about the last air attacks, we had several large-scale, if you can call them that, air attacks attacks during the current week, it's starokostantynyv again, it's vasylkiv, so how can we evaluate it, should we expect something near kyiv or in kyiv? we saw yesterday 's quite incomprehensible, incomprehensible such attacks, including by drones devices, and i’m interested in your opinion about this fake, one could say large-scale air alert, when rockets were allegedly launched at night, it was reported, yes, but it turned out that, relatively speaking, it was just a fake wasteland, should we expect also... like that, maybe the next nights, it's possible, because they
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're now going to the level of these kind of constant constant simulations or launches with small ammo, or simulation launches, and for what? in order to distract our attention, in order to fixate in this way where, what are the corresponding complexes, well, for example, the same radar stations and so on. in this way, they can expand the range of their intelligence on the location of air defense facilities. because of this, they are not always able to conclude which complexes are located there, but the presence of a radar already indicates that an air defense device is located in this location, so they can adjust the trajectories of flights, strikes, missiles and routes of even drones for drones kamikaze chess 136. thank you, mr. oleksandr. oleksandr kovalenka, military-political observer of the information resistance group, and we will literally take a break for a few minutes, but
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hello, mr. volodymyr, i would like to start a conversation with you, probably, from these yesterday's speeches by putin, his conversations yesterday, messages about the fact that russia itself is ready to negotiations, but we know under what conditions, the rejection of the course to the north atlantic alliance to nato, and the de facto recognition that russia controls how many five regions of ukraine, in full, which are supposedly written in its constitution, what is this? a farce, an increase in rates, or the real position of putin, that he will fight, as they say, to the last, no, well, this is just a further exacerbation of the disease, there is no need, there is no need to exaggerate the significance of all this political delusion that sounded yesterday, you know, yesterday, i spent the same hour and 20 minutes to
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to listen and made sure that this disease is really getting worse. well, remember, he used to be a world-renowned historian and used to speak historical nonsense, yesterday he became a world-renowned constitutionalist and spoke nonsense about the constitution of ukraine, and it looked so shameful, so school-like, so unconvincing that even the public , who was sitting listening to him, you know, also an interesting moment by the way, she was listening to him with, if you paid attention, with such petrified fear eyes and physiognomy, because the people who gathered there are actually people who are capable of sometimes thinking, so when they sometimes think, they understand the catastrophe into which russia and they themselves are being pushed by this
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wretched wretched emperor, that is, well , look, you now also show some. and people are simply frightened by what they hear, well, because this delusion was already more than what could be imagined, or skepticism, or fear, and these are people, sorry, this is not from the street, this, these are diplomats higher level, these are people who have seen a lot on their way, so i'll tell you frankly, there's no need to respond to these so-called messages, it's an aggravation of the disease, and you know, as a person who does deal with this country, i see that it's turning into a kind of, you know, festering appendix of world civilization, and here comes the question of what to really do, because if nothing is done, it will rupture and blood infection will begin, and the body can
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simply, well, simply die, or it must be removed, and here already... only surgery can help, here i am it seems that we have to explain to our western friends that the situation just like that, already with conversations, declarations and everything else, well, it is impossible to do without, here we need a real surgical operation to remove this, well, appendix, which threatens the whole body, and we can come to the point that, after all, the west... will realize your words that surgery is needed, that it is necessary to solve this issue not simply, relatively speaking, as it is now. is solved, but really by some kind of dismantling, perhaps, of this state entity? well , not yet, mr. andrii, while i was crossing the bridge
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to today's event, i was listening to the speech of the president of switzerland before the opening, she is just there, well, it seems to me, well, she is giving passports to russia, which you simply cannot give, she says that the main purpose of this meeting, this conference today... today and tomorrow will be to prepare the ground for for ukraine and russia to sit down at the negotiating table, well, you can imagine, what kind of child, what childish naivety, well, just a level, well, really a percentage, no no no more, after that children also become a little smarter, that's what switzerland sees as to the meaning of all this... work, well, there are other countries that look at the situation a little differently, and which have just demonstrated
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at the summit of simka, and at the decisions on the european integration of ukraine and moldova, that there will be other ways of proving to the mind of this er... war criminal, well , as for surgery, so far it's difficult, so far it's not, it's not becoming mainstream, let 's talk about it sincerely and objectively, well, but someday and getting the patriot system was considered a flight into space, at the same time unrealistic, everything is simple. it is necessary start talking, we need to start discussing it, and gradually putin will help our western allies and partners to come
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to the right conclusion, i am convinced of that. and in principle, now you see some real changes in the position of the west, something is shifting not only from the military point of view, but also from the diplomatic, political, economic point of view, you read the communique of the group of seven summit, which was made public yesterday. do you see in this very document suva? well , mr. vitaly, i see the point in what is happening in general, well, look, what it is agreed that russian money will be used in the war against russia, it is soup. the fact that the european ambassadors agreed that ukraine, despite hungary's denials , is starting negotiations on real negotiations is no longer talk of negotiations, but negotiations on joining the european union
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are the whole point, that the americans finally gave 60 billion dollars, it's a soup, and the fact that we get modern weapons is a soup, sorry, so if you add all this to the ... pile, then it's a soup. if we are talking about a global peace summit, it started today, at least its first stage, 56 heads of state, in fact, are present, there are the first statements, the first negotiations, if we evaluate it, how are these first steps, your assessment? are they positive for ukraine or less positive, and in this case, what do you expect from the following days, from tomorrow and from the final result of this summit?
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well, you know, my expectations are not exaggerated, i see the main point here is that 100 countries and organizations, and that's all. so the majority of the modern world clearly and clearly responded to ukrainian proposals, and this is a great positive, it means that ukraine managed to unite the majority of the civilized world around its ideas, that is, in political terms, this is an obvious success, and i would not in any way belittle what ukrainian diplomats and ukrainian diplomacy have done in overall at all levels, it's... something that's just not done like that, i'll tell you as a professional diplomat, it's a colossal job, it's a colossal effort, but today there is a beautiful political...
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result, that is, if you go from the reverse, from what we just talked about, relatively russia, this is a diplomatic disaster for moscow, because all that it wanted to do in order to disrupt it, actually turned against it, because the thesis that the rich will gather and speak against the poor does not work at all here. because there are representatives from all ee... everywhere, as they say, from latin america, from africa, from asia, from oceania, from australia, from the nordic countries, that is, the whole world is represented, yes, some came, some did not, but believe me, i don't remember such a gathering for the last time years, maybe even decades, for such gatherings to take place, about the... continuation
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of these things, and how it will end, will end with a declaration, will end with the fact that the countries that will want to join immediately will do it at a conference, those what they will think, they will do it later, but in this part, i think that it is not worth waiting for something extraordinary, because, look, the general assembly adopted it last year and the year before last. resolutions that have been supported by more than 140 countries, all the absolutely right things are written there, i think that in this statements, well, many of them will simply be repeated, and that, because of this, the russian federation stopped the war against ukraine, absolutely not, so i would not hope for anything from the text of this conference.
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the russian position will change, absolutely not, i will tell you more, the russian delegation will not come to the next summit, well, because you have to be very naive to imagine that now we will write down what needs to be done here, and then the conditional lavrov will come there or someone else will take it from our hands, take a visor and say: i went to fulfill, well it is simply not understanding the essence of what is russian... mentality, what is russian practice and so on and so forth, so let's not rush ahead, let this summit pass, let it show that the civilized world and the world that wants to live according to the normal rules of international law, the majority of them, we will see what can be achieved, but i repeat once again, to think that this will be a prologue to comprehensive peace, well...
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for some reason, i have great doubts about this subject. well, by the way, before this summit already they said that russia would try with the help of china to conduct something alternative, to gather someone. well, there was a meeting of foreign ministers of brics member countries. but it turned out that there is no unity in this organization regarding such an issue, which could, which could foresee some joint document, some joint serious position, and even lavrov started saying after this summit that russia does not have an alliance with china. korea, yes, mr. vitaly, do you understand how, if you take a russian classic, the non-commissioned officer’s widow carved herself, well, because what was the main thesis of russia, you see, it’s not quite a russian classic, it’s gogel, maybe he just mocked them like that, well, well, maybe so, let’s, let’s be like this , what am i leading to, russian the idea...
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what is it: now we will gather half the world under the brics cap and show these damned, damned imperialists kuska's mother and have shown kuska's mother to themselves, because you are absolutely right, they cannot achieve unity, well, because, well, how can you achieve unity between china and india, well, you have to be a brilliant strategist to drag out such countries under one roof and to think that after that you can achieve something, well, that's brilliant. well, i think that the initiator of this idea should be given an order for stupidity, if they, if they think about some of their interests of a global nature, that's why here, in fact, this is a stillborn story from the very beginning, there will be no common currency, there will not be no common positions, this is absolute absolute delusion and delusion, but...
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