now passes the state border of the russian federation, it passes along the administrative borders of the kherson, zaporizhzhya, donetsk, and luhansk regions with ukraine. thus , no real political settlement of the russian-ukrainian conflict is possible, because any president of the russian federation who will follow putin. course, it will not be possible to get your country out of the war with ukraine, no matter how political a solution is sought, there can only be, conditionally speaking, a cessation of hostilities between russia and ukraine of fire, this is approximately how the cease -fire between israel and the arab countries took place in 1948 on the island of rhodes, and the first peace agreement, which in principle fixed. well,

at least this, i would say, the external border, was signed only after 30, almost years, between israel and egypt, which means that it is necessary to prepare for a multi-year cease-fire agreement, which will not guarantee anything to anyone, and will pass along this line , where the troops will be located, and it is simply necessary to understand this, whenever this agreement is signed 25th year, 35th. of the forties, if the very essence of russian statehood does not change, it will only be a cease-fire agreement, which, if we are not accepted into nato, will doom us to the next military conflict after a certain time, for which it will be necessary to prepare for this conflict from the first day after the cease -fire , not to peace, but to war. unfortunately, this is unpleasant to say. can there be a legal solution? i can tell. the decision should not be

from our side, from the russian side, we, the country whose territory is recognized within the framework international law. russia must absolutely clearly emphasize that the accession to it of the republic of crimea, kherson, zaporizhzhia, luhansk, and donetsk regions contradicts the constitution of the russian federation, that this accession took place. in a non-legal way, this should be the conclusion of the constitutional court of the russian federation, i mean, after putin, that is, the president of the russian federation should turn to the constitutional court of the russian federation with the question of whether the annexation of these territories to the russian federation took place in legal way, if the constitutional court comes to the conclusion that it is not, then the president of the russian federation must... appeal to

the federal assembly of the russian federation with a demand to bring the constitution of the russian federation back into compliance with the international obligations of the russian federation and the decision of the constitutional court of russia. it is possible that an all-russian referendum will have to be held on this matter. and don't you think that on the part of any russian kermanych, this will be a political shot in the head. we do not know what russia will look like. in in the future, uh, i mean, if we're talking about russia that wants to return to the civilized world, that wants to have normal relations with the west, that wants no sanctions against it, that wants its assets back, well everything, if she wants all this, then it can be so, if it is not so, if you think that this is a shot in the head, then in this way, you understand very well, andriy, that there are no legal... began to believe that

the russian federation will end the war with ukraine, there is no political agreement. we can say: what if we agree? i i think that many viewers are now saying, well , if they don’t agree, and they are a nuclear state, they can grind us to powder, then maybe we should agree, god bless them, these kherson zaporizhia, donetsk, luhansk regions, let’s withdraw the troops from our . unoccupied, to take away people who want to leave there and stop the war, i will tell you what will happen the next day, the next day russian troops will enter the territory of kharkiv region, hold a referendum there, well, maybe the next day, in a month, ugh, and they will demand from us , i.e this is a salami tactic, as soon as you agree to such an idea, you just have it again, under a simple pretext, now the kyiv regime is terrorizing the population. zaporizhzhia region or, committed

a terrorist act, you heard how putin said, we didn't intend to capture kyiv, we just wanted to get there, that they stopped shelling donbas, it's logical, well, yes. may be in kharkiv oblast, kharkiv oblast, then poltava oblast, and the question arises where it will end, the next-last time the president of ukraine will sign an agreement, in to which he admits that the transcarpathian region is an integral part of the russian federation in bratislava, or in budapest, i don't know where the closest point is, this is how it will end, because it's just not in a year or two, but in 10, ugh , that is, it is a direct road to liquidation. ukrainian statehood and to the transformation of citizens living on the territory of ukraine into citizens of the russian federation, into residents of russian regions, and this is simply the recognition of five subjects - this is the first step, the next will follow, remember how putin once said

to oleksandr lukashenko, when the latter discussed with him the unification into a union state, he told volodymyr volodymyrovych that belarus would like to join russia, in parts and regions. they are joining russia, they are joining territories to russia by regions, crimea, donetsk region, luhansk region, kherson region, zaporizhzhia region, they are not even ashamed, you know, their constitution does not provide for joining the territories of other states at all. this is prohibited by russian constitutional law, and that is why they are holding a referendum, which, by the way, contradicts the constitutional law of ukraine. let's say, do you remember the last annexation, they declared zaporizhia oblast an independent state, they didn't even become a people's republic, guess what? so, this

independent state, zaporizhia oblast, as well as the independent state, kherson oblast, were joined to the russian federation as states, well, you know, that's how you can declare a state. any district within ukraine and join it, which, what is important, the region, this district, the city, whatever you want, it’s just, by the way, the city, the city-state of sevastopol, was annexed to the russian federation as a state, and this is not a joke, this is a legal document, the constitutional court of the russian federation, the federal assembly and the president of russia approved the annexation of the state of sevastopol to russia, it was like that. a few days, and in this state, as you remember, there was not even a leader, the document with putin on the accession of the state of sevastopol to the russian federation was signed by the people's mayor of sevastopol with the surname chala, a surname that was simply shouted at the rally, not even by anyone was not

elected mayor, imagine a person who simply i went to the city hall from the street, took some documents and went to sign with the president. some other country 's city annexation agreement, you can imagine the level of arrogance in general, but they're doing that, so the fact that he's saying that, i think that's even more important than anything else, because you know, to discuss any changes in the constitution and laws are possible at any peaceful conference. here you are, we want you to change such laws, and we want you to change such laws, you have to change such texts in such articles, because we are concerned about, uh, rights of national minorities in your territory, well, how

is hungary doing this, we are concerned about the rights of transcarpathian hungarians, we want you to change this and that, but imagine that hungary you say, you know, but we... need it to be european integration of ukraine, let's join the berehiv district to hungary, well, this is our demand, to recognize that this is the territory of hungary, the same thing will not occur to anyone, however, not to any hungarian prime minister, and if it occurs, then it will be the last day of his stay this, the prime minister in the european union, v nato, everything will be over in a few days, here, it's not just about neutrality. status, about the demilitarization of the country, about such things, which are also absolutely presumptuous, and together with this, they can appear as topics for negotiations, because we can demand

the same from russia, demilitarization, say, of the russian-ukrainian border , etc., neutral status belarus, that is , no one said that these conditions for... that will be fulfilled, but this is what diplomats discuss at conferences, but when it comes to the territories of another state, all negotiations end immediately, by the way, notice how the text of this agreement, which was discussed in istanbul in 2022, looked like. there , the occupied territories were removed from the scope of this agreement. there are special articles where it is written that such, such, such, such, such, such articles are not distributed in the crimea, in some other territory. that is, even there it was clear. putin that no one will recognize the russian status of the territories. country, here he decided to go even further, this suggests

that he is not going to any victories to hold, that is, russia, now we are talking in the context of summits, in the context of meetings, in the context of possible communiques, this means that russia will not participate in any peace conferences, well, it can take, if and if it takes, then... according to this they say, as they say, the result will be the same. well, of course they don't, they, they can come with putin's program. if they believe that they do not have the military power to seize these territories and others, they may consider the cease-fire as a compromise i told you, the ceasefire is on the line of contact of the parties. here we are, let's say, in zaporizhzhia. they are in melitopol, we are in kherson, they are in nova kakhovka,

ceasefire. everything, at the same time, they will continue to consider zaporizhzhia and kherson as russian cities occupied by ukraine, and we will, of course, consider all these regions in which they will be located as ukrainian land occupied by russians, but this is simple, i say, this is logic of the middle east conflict, why it is not possible solve? because, let's say, there, the main idea of ​​the palestinian movement, and this brings it closer to russia, is not to deny israel the right to exist, you can sit down, as it has happened a million times, draw some maps, do something there, there will be so much here , there will be so much, there will be such control, there will be all kinds of control, then a simple thing is proposed, let's recognize israel's right to exist. no one from the so-called peaceful palestinian population will vote for such a political force, it will lose the elections, and therefore

there is no way to solve it, just to strive the cease-fire that is now taking place in the near future, don't you think that putin is actually trying to make a cease-fire happen with such statements, that is , he is raising the stakes here, look, we are claiming that part of kherson oblast, zaporizhzhia. daughters that are not occupied, but listen, let's go to some kind of peace conference, yeah, and let's say we agree on, i don't think it's quite right, andrew, he's creating a platform for that possibility if he has to, he does not think at all that he should spend with some negotiations with ukraine, he believes that he can dictate a certain decision if he has this need, ukraine is not a subject of negotiations for him, but just some place there... conditionally speaking, which is under the control of the west, and the west can to offer such

an option, if he needs it at the moment, if he decides that a further war, no, it cannot take place, let's say, the war must be frozen, that's what president zelensky says, we cannot afford the freezing of the conflict , putin is now too cannot, but this is not a case when he decides that he already can, that the conflict can be frozen. and that in this situation, freezing the conflict on the contact line, wherever it may be, would be a better case for ukraine than the continuation of hostilities. that 's all. how should the west react to this, or how will the west react to this, to these statements, and how should ukraine react? and we see how the west reacts to any statements. the west raises rates, the west tightens sanctions against russia, the west allows ukraine to beat the american and

other western weapons for the territory of the russian federation, the west supplies v-16, the west is thinking of increasing the supply of air defense systems, and what can the other west afford? he cannot recognize the fact that the regions of ukraine are occupied by the russian federation and are the territory of russia, how can he do that, even if someone has a huge amount. desire, it is impossible because it undermines international law, you can see that even these countries that are in the best. relations with the russian federation, let's say, a global country south, they don't say, let's talk about , let's let ukraine recognize its occupied regions as part of russia, even china doesn't say that, doesn't say, it says that we want an end to hostilities and further negotiations, but here is this idea even, and china will never say that, because for china the very idea that it recognizes the annexation of foreign territory is

dangerous in terms of its own territorial disputes with other countries, that is... no country, only some country that is completely dependent on moscow can to afford luxury, to recognize the occupied ukrainian regions to russian, but again, what kind of country should this be, oleksandr lukashenko, he was in crimea, he is the one who keeps saying, invite me to crimea, i will go to crimea, i will fly to crimea through russian airspace, but lukashenko, who can just be driven across the table with his face, won't make it in any way, he won't make it for 10 years, but even he... he was even forced to meet with the president of abkhazia, he actually met privately with the president of self-proclaimed abkhazia, aslan bjania, then he came to see him in minsk, but abkhazia is a type of self-proclaimed sovereign state, and a meeting with its leader

may appear to be part of some peaceful efforts there. searching for a dialogue, whatever, while he did not recognize its independence, he simply held a private meeting, but unofficially, not with the head of state, there were no flags there, you understand, and he still did not recognize southern abkhazia, did not open belarusian embassies there, it would seem, lukashenko, then the question arises, who can be forced to admit this, north korea, well, north korea is not something to force, but... it seems to me that north korea has recognized the independence of the dpr and lpr. but she did not recognize their fact of joining the russian federation, they did not make any statements on this matter. well, as they say, everything, everything, everything is possible in the future, but you see, even they don't do it. the republic of south ossetia can afford such a thing, they seem to have recognized both, but it is

not a state either. at the level of states that have seats in the united nations, it is very difficult to do everything. and putin knows this very well, and that is why it is very important for him that ukraine itself, if ukraine recognizes its regions as russian, this opens the possibility for wide recognition of other borders of the russian federation, as you say, from an international point of view, but it is also unknown, you know, this is also a question, because many countries may believe that ukraine did it under duress and still will not recognize it. if we are talking about sanctions, an interesting thing, i asked mr. volodymyr orysk about this, and here we come back to the sanctions pressure, and this week this sanctions pressure, it is significantly intensified because the united states of america imposed sanctions against a number of legal entities and individuals in russia, and by the way, against the moscow stock exchange, we saw what

was happening there, and against a number of legal entities, china. turkey and a number of other countries there, which, as third parties, supplied russia with certain parts, certain products, which are now prohibited for supply precisely on the territory of the occupying state. the new sanctions, how do you evaluate them and what can be the next such powerful blow against russia, what can it cause? well, if not devastating damage, then at least significant, i think there may be many more such steps, they are clearly in the american arsenal, and in general, the introduction of sanctions against the power exchange says that the americans are not just getting impatient little by little, but that they are making a whole series of different decisions to show that they will act more harshly. that is, if you are not able to listen to us, we will

act without any consideration of the consequences of our actions. it's not only, i'm basically saying, it's not only sanctions, it's also... permits to strike on russian territory, and by the way, what in berlin talked about the need to supply more air defense systems and so on and so forth. i think that all this is in the logic of escalation, you see, these two, well, almost two and a half years, yes, it will be 2.5 years in august, they took place within the framework of the fact that russia raised rates every day, and the west all the time said, let's be careful not to allow a serious escalation, there is no such thing now, it started, by the way, after... two years, two years of the great war have ended, and the president of france emmanuel macron, the first, in fact, among western leaders to say that he wants russia to live in a situation of strategic uncertainty, because ... until this moment , the west itself lived in a situation of strategic uncertainty, and now you can say that they have all changed roles now

, russia also lives in a situation of strategic uncertainty, because the russians do not know what will be used against them next, whether some western missiles and bombs will fall on their heads, or whether foreign troops will appear in ukraine, probably not, but again, what? no, when they could have said before, probably not about western weapons, the truth is, if you asked putin his generals, they can hit us with some western missiles, but no, they will be afraid of each other, that there is nothing to even think about here, it turned out what is about what, and this happened because the west stopped being afraid of russia, yes, that is, i don't think he was afraid, i think he believed that the russians would come to understand that they could not fulfill their goals, that these goals that... putin has set for himself regarding the absorption of ukraine, they are unattainable, and therefore it is necessary to agree on some positions that will record this fact,

let's say this, and putin is not ready to understand it, well, if he is not ready to understand it, he will be made to understand it by various means, from economic to military, and here you are the whole story, and china, we see that here gradually, very carefully, very... small steps, after all, the united states of america, not europe, namely the united states of america, not the european union, are trying to put pressure on china, that is, such small microsteps , such with small, small moves, to send messages that, well, listen, we don't need to help russia, china will react to this somehow, at least now we don't see that there is such a reaction, it will mean that... that the us, maybe , allies of the united states of america will increase this pressure on china? i think it's because of the same attitude

towards moscow that we talked about with you, you know, when the united states secretary of state anthony blinkin was in beijing, he publicly warned the head of the chinese people's republic of xizen pines, what if chinese companies continue to do business with moscow. then the united states will do what china is not doing, which is to let china itself put an end to the cooperation of its companies with the russian federation. as far as i understand, the american secretary of state was not heard, was not heard from precisely this point of view, from which putin did not hear, does not hear the west. the west will not dare, they will not be able to, it is not to their advantage, they will be careful. these are not exactly sanctions against china, as you understand, yes, these are sanctions. against chinese companies that cooperate with russia, but it was the same with russia at first, of course, in 14th year, 15th year, yes, this is a signal, by the way, if we read this

communique of the group of seven, there about cooperation between russia and china , it is mentioned in the part that talks about the war in ukraine, and it is mentioned in the part that talks about china, and by the way, there is one more very important decision, which is the introduction of a european tariff on chinese electric cars. yes, to the 10% duty that existed until now, another 38% duty was added, well, now imagine to yourself, who are you sizenpin, what do you feel, how many billions of dollars are floating past you on the river, on the river, there is even, there is even a blow to companies that are residents of the european union, for example, germany, we know that in germany, which is dumb, that the german car manufacturer... is in china, that is, they have their factories there too, although not so significant, but the customs duty too, and by the way, olaf scholz tried to do everything possible

to oppose this decision, moreover , it was his birthday, they sang to him there poor olaf, everyone there stroked him on the fox, they were all very friendly, but at the same time they absolutely did not agree with his proposals to postpone this decision, and now how... you see, he also has to block sanctions against russia in the european union. now germany is blocking the sanctions, not hungary, because it is once again afraid that the introduction of new sanctions may hit its own business, but i am sure that this resistance of germany will be overcome, because we live in a completely new logic . if we talk about the peace summit, the event that takes place just in these minutes, and by the way, you can watch now in our. in the window live broadcast from switzerland, speeches are taking place, heads of various states, yes. the event is important,

extremely important, and we already are. defined it, but we understand very well that the peace summit will not lead to peace, well, i think that the terminology is important here, you see, why don't we call security agreements, security guarantee agreements, because these are not security guarantees, these are agreements that provide that the states that sign them with ukraine will help ukraine in case the next wars with the russian federation, and that's not bad, because it's better than not helping, yes. that we understand that he will continue to do so again, if we do not join nato, there will be many, they will be destructive, they will be brutal, and the more arms we have, the more chances that russia or these wars will be localized, or will not hold them, because again the russians do not attack the strong, the same is true of the peace summit, if it were to be called a support summit, maybe it would not cause anyone conflicting emotions, it is absolutely obvious that the peace summit in switzerland cannot lead to

peace, it seems to me... explained in this program why a peace agreement between russia and ukraine is unattainable, and ideas about peace, as a political solution, should be rejected in one's own head for the next decades of the 21st century , there will be no peace between russia and ukraine, peace between russia and ukraine is unattainable, but the greater the world's support for ukraine, the greater the chance, firstly, of turning a high-intensity war into a war. low intensity, which means fewer victims in the following years, which means less number of bombings, which means fewer casualties, which means a return to more normality of life in the 20s and 30s of the 21st century, and secondly, it may mean an end to low-intensity warfare, it is clear that nobody likes the logic of freezing the conflict , but when we all come to the conclusion that the freezing of the conflict may be the only chance to survive both... for

ukraine and for russia, we can in principle see that in the situation we are in, we can achieve our goals, but freezing can also be on different conditions, you see, the freeze in which we get security guarantees is not at all the freeze in which we don't get them, because what is the freeze of conflict with security guarantees? ukraine is invited to nato, security guarantees for these territories, which we currently control, it is important that they be larger than now, but that too, in... a war, no one can say what will happen in the future, so, but this means, in principle, that we are embarking on the track of returning our territories by political means, and we are part of it defense union, and our allies will also do everything to return these territories politically, which means that the pressure on russia will continue even after this cease -fire, or there is another freezing of the conflict, which

simply... we will not get anything except these agreements , who promise us that the next time you are attacked, in six months or a year, we will give you weapons as soon as possible, that is, it is a matter of survival, because we understand that this is a war, this is a war that will give an answer to the question is whether there will be in the following years whether the ukrainian state will exist on the political map of the world, whether the russian federation will cover all its borders and start implementing the project of the soviet union 2:0, that's all. a very simple thing, a thing that can turn into new millions of refugees and new hundreds of thousands of victims, this is also a reality, which means that the greater the support of the world, the less chance russia will have to freeze the conflict on its own terms, this is a very simple formula. 56 at this peace summit of heads of state, presidents, prime ministers, some of the heads according to the constitution of this

countries. defined as such, we are now seeing the speech of president macron, which means that essentially only those who consider themselves to such a civilized world, to the western world, have come, yes, but if we are talking about a part of up to 30 representatives there, it ministers of foreign affairs or of a lower category, by the way, this also applies to the civilized world, there are allies of the west in... different regions of the world, we saw the president of kenya, i think he spoke second or third, or the president of argentina, or the leader ghanaians, they are the first, well, let's say that now argentina is trying to classify itself as a civilized world, the civilized world is not geography, it is values, that is, we are not really talking about the fact that everyone west of ukraine is there , but less so, we talked about what...