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they will liken zelensky to uncle putin, but in fact they behave like this, and moreover, as my colleague did not prove, yes, let's name heroes, such as advisers of advisers, yes there, or positive bloggers who say, if you say, that the only marathon is bad, you are doing ipso, you are a swindler, that is, if you say that the state of ukraine is stealing, then you are... playing for putin, or maybe you will stop stealing simply and that's all, you will stop living on kickbacks , that is , there are two versions of what is happening, yes there that is, this or that, well, now i’m traveling around all the front-line communities, there along the front line, yes, there, well, in a certain project , we are distributing kits for the affected households, yes, such a volunteer project, and also... i see
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all the buildings in that number, well , including a banal banal example, there i bring two guys there to the nearest community and they simply ask how much they pay you, they say they pay thousands in cash every day, do we work, do we not work or are idle, that’s all, my output on conditional work of 10 hours somewhere workers there with delivery from home to home, there are hryvnias, but how is cash, how is cash, and how are you, if you are not officially working? how do you get smeared from the tsk there? well, i don't know , they don't touch us, that is, it's not corruption, what do you want to say, and if i tell about it now, and seryoga will say this dog, he works for putin, and well , seryoga will also be eaten, give two more rides, they will they will tell you the same thing, that is, they accuse others of their sins, that is, profiting during a war is the norm, but talking about it is treason, right? this cannot be, that's why we are
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in the end, we have to say what we say, that it cannot be bad to say that they, uh, actually do not profess democratic values, that the office of the president acts, well, at best like the orban regime, at worst like lukashenko's parents, ihor absolutely right, we immediately understand what this is for, to later... manipulate a certain part of the electorate and hold power forever, yes, because the loss of power, at least if not for zelensky, then for yermak, may end with him being caught up by them and cling to it and violate and violate the standards and thus they simply destroy our relationship with civilization.
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they will be told about this, and not only that , they will use it against them, but they should not complain, not be afraid, not talk about treason, but simply stop doing unsightly things, but they don't know how to do it, because they don't know how, because they, be that as it may, they are still ideologically, they are closer to dictatorial regimes than to civilization, such is the paradox of ukraine, the paradox of ukraine is that it's... it's like a new political generation, that is, relatively young and new, yes, but it is more prone to authoritarianism and dictatorial regimes, gentlemen, you mentioned corruption, the level of corruption in ukraine, and of course without mass media, well , we probably wouldn't have known about deputy prosecutor general dmytro verbytskyi, who became a figure in one of the journalistic investigations, in general. prosecutor of ukraine
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andriy kostin did not come to the verkhovna rada to provide explanations regarding the origin of the wealth of his deputy dmytro verbytsky despite an official challenge. in a letter addressed to the chairman of the verkhovna rada, ruslan stefanchuk, the prosecutor general suggested postponing the discussion in the parliament until the results of the official investigation are received. based on the facts published in the media regarding the property of deputy prosecutor general orbytskyi, i have ordered an official investigation. which continues today. subject to the above-mentioned circumstances, it seems appropriate to postpone the discussion of this situation by the verkhovna rada of ukraine until it is received results of official investigation. actually, what it is about is that my colleagues, journalists, recorded that the girl, deputy prosecutor general dmytro verbytskyi, has wealth, great wealth, she bought a house during the war, and for 48 million uah, and hers. on
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a fancy car, she explains that she earned it all before meeting dmytro verbytskyi, there are different explanations, but the fact itself remains a fact. that the deputy prosecutor general of ukraine, well, cannot explain the origin of these fortunes, andriy kosti does not come to the verkhovna rada, neither explains what is happening with his deputy. the public investigation just came out, the deputy director of the state security bureau lives in an apartment for 900 thousand dollars, although he declares a rented apartment, we are talking about oleksandr udovichenko, the head of the main investigative department of the state bureau. investigation, he lives in an apartment in one of the most elite housing complexes in kyiv, and the official's declaration mentions real estate, there is no information at all. at the same time, there is also information from the american chamber of commerce, they wrote an article and calculated,
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that shadow trade in tobacco products in 22-23 led to budget losses in the amount of 42.5 billion hryvnias, that is more than 1 billion. dollars, and the chamber calls on the state authorities to start a real fight against the shadow economy, and they say that 30 f-16 fighter jets could be purchased with the funds from the shadow trade in cigarettes. well , all this information and publicity, or rather this information indicates that if there was no freedom of speech, if journalists did not work, maybe we would not know about it, but since there is freedom of speech. and even in a limited or censored version in state media, private media still provide this information, and mr. igor, how is this information perceived by our partners, and do they
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understand it and know about the scale of corruption in ukraine, because when we we start talking about corruption in ukraine, and i have people's deputies in the studio, especially from the servant... the servants of the people, they say that we exaggerate when we talk about the level of corruption that exists in ukraine, and this, they say journalists they specially emphasize the fact that corruption is not so great in our country, no, i am here, unfortunately, probably for the people's deputies from the servant of the people to agree with them, i cannot agree, i can agree in the sense that some data, which are given, for example, about ukrainian corruption in some western media there, this is even before the beginning of a large-scale invasion. they were really exaggerated to some extent, that is, it was such, well, you know , a topic that was very well dispersed, warmed up, and this created a very unfavorable image in ukraine of almost the most corrupt country in the world, but this does not change the facts that exist today, and which , unfortunately, only intensified during
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the war, especially in the last one and a half years, and how our partners react to it, well, i first of all convinced that they are absolutely aware of everything... what is happening, secondly, they draw certain conclusions for themselves, and these conclusions are not only of such, you know, theoretical nature, there are already practical, let's say, consequences that concern the creation of additional bodies that check, for example, assistance which is coming to ukraine, and there are talks about the fact that when it comes to the real reconstruction of our state, then most likely some specially created body will once again take care of the funds for this reconstruction. in the form of a commission or an agency, it doesn't matter what it will be called, which will again be fully controlled by our partners, they will control where these funds will go, this is certainly not a very positive moment, because it says that individual institutions in ukraine, institutions, they actually do not work, despite the statements about very significant
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reforms there and so on, and the responsibility for these failures lies primarily with the government, i am saying now impersonally, if on the other hand, if you recall... people's deputies from the people's servants, then i will simply remind our dear tv viewers, as of the beginning of february, the beginning of february 22, well, that is , a couple of weeks before the start of the large-scale war that russia started, ah, so it was opened in nabu, in nazk, in nazk more were opened 100 cases, there are 104, cases of 104 people's deputies from sluga are submitted of the people, which concerned, well, let's say, correspondences in their de, and this is just the tip of the iceberg, that is, this is what was done based on the results of a minimal elementary check of some kind there, then the declarations were closed, then they were opened relatively recently, and we see that now there are already criminal cases opened there because they cannot explain the correspondence
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of their actual rates to the income they received, the situation, for example, with the deputy general prosecutor, it is blatantly out of order, of course this is a court, there is an investigation. .. it should be and so on, maybe it won’t even reach the court, we understand all the specifics there, but it is blatant in the sense that, unfortunately, may the people’s deputies forgive me, who really work from morning to night, but about oberkhov . well, once again, the council simply wiped its feet, because this is not even disrespect, it is a demonstrative rejection of the key, well, right and duty of the verkhovna rada to exercise proper parliamentary control, including over law enforcement agencies. i don't think the prosecutor general had, well, it wasn't a problem yet, long ago to receive the results of some official investigation, because this information is in zmi, it is not the first day and not the first. a week appears, and in principle, he does not need much time there to bring this investigation to some
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logical conclusion, if he is not going to give it a go, he should have come to the verkhovna rada and said: we have already checked everything, everything is fine, but he doesn't do that, because he hopes that the whole situation will somehow, you know, continue to just fall out of this information flow, it will no longer be so relevant, perhaps he will no longer have to come, report and tell what is happening there with his deputies, although now in... the verkhovna rada, in principle, there is an opportunity to summon him once again, only in such a more rigid and certain format, if not, then make some decisions, including those of a personnel nature, turn to the president, because this is an absolutely unacceptable situation, there are facts made public by journalists, at least come and publicly report on the state of this official investigation, about some materials that are there and so on, the prosecutor general should, of course, if he didn't do it, well , what does this indicate, it indicates that... the problem is again, including in the presence of political will to deal with such issues, so that our guests who
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come to our studio or join the deputies from the servants of the people do not think that only corruption exists in the heads of the presenters of the espresso tv channel and our experts, i will provide one more fact: the council of the european union created the anti-corruption commission and embezzlement of western aid to ukraine, according to the post. the new one will function until june 30, 2028 and will be based in brussels, while an auxiliary body will be located in kyiv. mr. viktor, the fact that the council of the eu created a commission to combat corruption and embezzlement of western aid to ukraine, does this indicate that they do know about this corruption and embezzlement of western aid? well, of course, they know, they keep their finger on the pulse, i'll say it in simple words from my own experience. yes, if, well, here i am regional, well, an expert who
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lives there in the region will return, i’m not from kyiv, yes, and if some ambassadors come to sumy, then they, well, of course, of course, what’s their business, they make an official official visit there to the the regional military administration, somewhere to the mayor, then they will be shown, somewhere else, what the authorities can show, they usually show some or potemkin. or there is the beauty of the ekibanu, what do you see, here it is cool, here it is cool, cool, cool, but then, of course, the ambassador or there are representatives of the big international organizations there, they are here many yes who work in ukraine, they want to meet with scientists, with the media, with some, well, journalists, investigators, with public activists, in the end they go there, make several... such meetings, including there, for example, lunch or dinner, and where everyone just talks, if
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the head of the administration says: everything is cool with us, we are the whitest, the fluffiest, and then we show the facts, look, the first, second, third, fourth, plus they they read something in the embassies from open sources they make a picture from the activists, and not necessarily, well, that is, i think that... they draw conclusions not based on a single marathon, yes, including on this one, on this program, yes there is a tip, and they make some conclusions, prejudices, of course, they, as intelligent people , check whether it is true, the true factor that that journalist said, whether bigus has it, whether boberenko said something, of course, it is from many sources, but if they have information from many sources and everyone and everyone says that something is wrong there, and then the deputy will return, there is some woman,
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the deputy prosecutor general, who cannot explain where she got such beauty, and there are such cars, such houses, such apartments, and the same with 104 people's deputies, then the conclusion suggests itself, then there is something like in an old russian film where you will be tried, but you will not be... but it cannot be otherwise, and that is why, of course, when they make a decision that we will have a special commission that will keep you there until the 30th... on june 28, he constantly monitors, and they will have a permanent office in kyiv, then it’s like, well, how, how you don’t turn around, that is, you either have to change yourself, because this eternal thing will not pass there , like, what, what will you do to stop helping us, because what is the problem of ukraine ,
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by and large, that a certain misha kodalyak comes and says, volodymyr oleksandrovich, and what will they do to us, they will help us... anyway, they will help us under any conditions, because we are fighting for civilization, so there is a kind of vaska cut, there is no god, yes, this is something from dostoevshchyna, yes, we got the type there, we we can do what you want, because there will be no responsibility anyway, we will not be ordered, because by ordering the people of ukraine, the government of the state of ukraine will return by ordering, they order the people of ukraine, they order the nation, they will do it, no, and therefore we can to do whatever we want, but... this will change as soon as the war is over. it is clear that there will be money there only in exchange for anti-corruption and money in exchange for reforms. as it was already there, say, there in the 15th, 16th and so on years, when most of the reforms were carried out in ukraine. for now, while the war our government uses its right of inviolability, because it represents
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the people of ukraine, the people of ukraine limit money and weapons and the armed forces of ukraine. yes, no one will. friends, i would like to remind you that we are working live, and today we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you the following: do you feel that the situation with freedom of speech in ukraine is deteriorating? everything is quite simple on youtube: yes, no, or please write your own comment under this video. don't forget to like this video to keep it trending youtube well, at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of voting and television. you can now see phone numbers on the screens. 0800-21381, if you feel the deterioration of the situation with freedom of speech in ukraine, no, 0,800, 211, 382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i will remind you once again that today on the air, viktor boberenko and ihor reiterovych, political
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experts, talk not only about domestic politics, but also about foreign policy, and the end, actually on... our program , gentlemen, we will talk about the results of the global peace summit, well, actually for me the main result of the global peace summit is that it took place and that today yarmak has officially confirmed to bloomberg that ukraine is ready for negotiations with russia under time of the second global peace summit, well, i don't really know what ermamak wants to hear. from the representatives of russia at this summit, at the second summit, where the ukrainian side would like to invite the russian side, perhaps i am too picky about this issue, and i treat this absolutely as a ukrainian who, like all of us, suffers from
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the aggression of the russian federation, and so far i do not see a place for the aggressor next to the one... whom he wants to kill, that is, next to yarmak and zelenskyi. mr. igor, how do you perceive this idea, and to what extent it can be implemented under the current conditions, and the result of these negotiations, where the representative of russia will sit at the round table, what can it be? it seems to me that some subsequent summit, at which russia may be present, may be present. yes, it is possible primarily due to the change in the situation on the battlefield, this is a key moment for today, because what this first summit actually demonstrated was a good representation, they returned the topic of the russian-ukrainian war to the global information space, enough countries spoke there at support for ukraine, made the right statements, er, but we did not see
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any concrete practical steps, although the president, closing the summit press conference... he hinted that in the near future we will take these practical steps we will find out, maybe they will, but i saw the information literally before the air, it is difficult to verify it yet, because it comes from russian sources, but we are talking about the fact that some very large exchange of prisoners is being prepared, there are more than two hundred people, and as the mediator is saudi arabia, that is, the one that was at the summit, whose representative spoke, but they did not support the final communique, so the key moment is related to practicality. implementation of the provisions that were made in this communiqué, and if we saw whether we'll see, let's still give it a chance, maybe the president's office knows a little more and until he starts this process, we 'll see some... and the way it sounded from
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the mouth of the head of the president's office, it seems to me that it's very similar, just an attempt to intercept the initiative and stop ukraine in general this idea of holding some kind of next summit, by the way, the president spoke about this again during the meeting in schweitz. why is this happening, because look, there is a danger, there is a danger that this second summit could theoretically be about we could start talking, we could announce it, and we could even begin to collect it, well, other countries without ukraine playing a leading role, and here in the office of the president, well , they are very meticulous about it, maybe they decided now to simply emphasize that we can theoretically to do this, but on the condition that the ordinary russian federation will be... ready to give answers to the key questions and will be ready to discuss them during the next meeting, although i, like you , do not see any reason to
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to think that russia will change its position in the next, well, at least 5-6 months, and will not, on the contrary , try to raise the stakes as much as possible in order to enter into some negotiations there, well, from a position of strength and from a position that will be as well , favorable and, accordingly, not very favorable for us, but... let's hope that it is the armed forces that will change this idea to them, and after all, we will be the initiators here, and we will dictate certain conditions. permanent representative of the united states of america at the un, linda thomas greenfield, during the meeting of the councils without the un, regarding the results of the global peace summit, called the peace proposed by russia at gunpoint unfair and criticized china's peace initiatives. let's hear what they said. we regret that china has published its own peace plan, formulated without any participation from ukraine itself. if china is really
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interested in supporting the peace process, we will welcome its help. it can begin with the termination of support for russia's defense and industrial base. without a significant number of machines, microelectronics, optics, uavs and cruise missile technologies provided by china, russia would be difficult to maintain its... mr. viktor, putin's peace plan is actually the surrender of ukraine, or the so-called putin's peace plan, there is no ambiguity here, and how, how with this peace plan, as well as china's peace plan, among other things, because it is about what is not about the return of the sovereignty of ukraine and ukrainian lands, how events can develop in this situation until... this year and whether or not it is possible come to at least some understanding what should peace be like in ukraine? well, the first thing that zelensky said was that if, in the coming
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months, but let's clarify, before the elections in the united states or after, i think that everyone will postpone any peace initiatives there, peace initiatives, until then... time until we find out who will be the next head of the white house, whether biden will stay, whether trump will come, whether there will be someone third, yes, for example, yes, and there can be such an intrigue, but, clearly, before that, if what , who did not want, er, russia will not go to any negotiations, where ukraine will be the initiator, and ukraine will say: "let's not raise three points from zelenskyi's plan, but 10. yes, and russia, that we are somebody." in their right mind they can say that putin himself will not come, but he can send his war horse lavov and say, for example, that there are guys like that, but we are
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like that, but we really like the idea that we are paying reparations, it’s generally great , this is a cool initiative, well, someone in their right mind will probably accept it, or that russia, which is now attacking and the strategic initiative is in them, what else will they say, okay, we... agree with your thesis, the borders of 91 , well, this, i call it, this, i'm sorry, that you have a serious transfer, but we are in sums, that's what they say, pantherese , yes, on yermak and others from the president’s office, these are panty for prietik, eh, and, i tell you that nothing will happen until the new year, conditional on what putin is counting on, he expects that we will fall and the world will fall, we are from a blackout, that we will not survive this this winter, that we will sit like now i am by the candle with you, yes. and it will not be four minus four yes, but what is it it will be there for 4 hours, and there will be no light for 20 hours, which means we will be sprinkled and our
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economy will be sprinkled. society will collapse, and the army will panic, and the west will panic, and he can ultimatum dictate his own terms there, or we will surrender, and he will go there, well, wherever he wants, even to transcarpathia, and it is clear that putin will be ready for negotiations only when we survive the winter, conditionally in march, yes, conditionally there, like when the inauguration of a new president can be, it is not yet a fact that trump will be, i... i tell you, that is not the case at all, but, for example, putin thinks he's rich, yes, like a fool, i think he's rich, that it will be just somewhere there, like on january 25, there will be an inauguration, then trump will negotiate with him and xi jinping there about ukraine without ukraine, 30, 30 seconds on the air, mr. viktor, 30 seconds, if you can, okay, and i will conclude that any negotiations will only take place when the winter is over, and the winter will be over, let's say, that we ...
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endured, and then we will dictate the terms, and putin will agree or disagree gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program, viktor boberenko, ihor reiterovych were guests of our program today, during the entire broadcast we conducted a survey, friends, and asked you about the following: do you feel that the situation with freedom of speech in ukraine is deteriorating, let's look at the results of today's television survey 91% yes, 9% no . that's it, friends, i'm putting an end to it, it's... the program verdict welcome serhiy rudenko, tomorrow i'm waiting for you at 8:00 p.m. there will be a new verdict, there will be new guests, there will be new topics, goodbye, slovakia, ukraine, only on mego, on kona, the fate of the national team is on euro, it's time to take revenge for the past and win,
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