under this video, support this video on youtube, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote, if you feel that the situation of freedom of speech in ukraine is deteriorating, 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, and we have our first guest on the phone, this is oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. president of the paris committee on migration and refugees, mr. oleksiu, i welcome you, thank you, that you are with us today, i congratulate you, well , first of all, mr. oleksiy, i wanted to ask you about this sentencing of you in absentia for 10 years in the russian federation, what are the details of what happened in russia and whether they tried to officially inform you of this, did you learn about it from mass media propaganda. them from russia, well, the press service

of the court of the russian western district military court of the city of moscow spread this information, well, that was it, before that they first opened a case, declared me wanted, well, now it means they have already sentenced to 10 years, i found out about it from the mass media, er, well, of course, this is an award for me, it means that everything i do, i do it right, that's right. .. is very hard on russia, i am the first people’s deputy, the first people’s deputy, convicted by the russian federation, that is, yes, someone there, well, i was declared a terrorist, extremist, there are many of them there, sanctions were introduced against various ukrainian figures, there are also many of them, but a ukrainian politician convicted by russia, i am the first, well, i believe that this is a serious first and a serious assessment of my work, well, what i read in the russian propaganda media.

10 years, the first three years a person convicted in absentia must spend in prison, the next seven years in a general regime colony, in addition, you are banned from administering websites for three years, well, to be honest, i don't know how they can implement this whole story, after all, this is not a warrant from a criminal court, like putin's, why do you think the russians took such a step... a rather strange sentence, a sentence in absentia and for spreading fakes about the russian army, there and also for justifying terrorism, it seems that there are three or three articles, if i am not mistaken, inciting hatred, justifying terrorism and something like that, why, because i am very annoying, i see them, two, well, on the one hand, you and i are laughing, on the other hand, russia has a number of cutting agreements.

countries on mutual extradition and mutual assistance in such matters, for me the world has now narrowed down a lot, there are many countries in the world now that i cannot go to, because once i get there , i can already be sent from them in only one direction to russia, so this certainly pressure and efforts of such moral and psychological pressure, well, this is not news for me, over the last 10 years, russia, well, besides the fact that it announced me, whom it did not announce. they ordered my murder twice and abduction once, the security service of ukraine warned about this, and they did not hide, there, for example, probably the most serious attempt at this kidnapping, i think it was 2017 or 2018, then the organizers of this were replaced by russia, then exchanged for ukrainian prisoners of war, it's simple to understand, that is, they didn't even hide who they were is behind all this madness, but... yes,

russia is trying to increase pressure on ukraine, it all fits into their theses about the illegitimacy of the ukrainian government, about all this other stuff, and you see that their deputies, leading politicians, it's just criminals who have been convicted, and so on, that's why it's such a story, well, i think there's still maybe a line here, given that i'm saying directly that i think putin should be hanged, and he deserves... and this death, no other, before against me, by the way, a case has been opened in belarus for threats to kill lukashenko, that's why i think that there may be a personal desire here, so, leader, they are trying to show that they are, therefore, persecuting the enemies of the reich, you know, those of their kind, well, everything is definitely intertwined here, thank you, mr. oleksiy, well, let's actually watch how the events in russia will develop, as the russians, well, obviously,

they will continue to take some steps against ukrainian politicians, because you are right that russia is trying to prove the illegitimacy of the current ukrainian government, they say there is none. with whom to negotiate, neither with zelensky, nor with those in power, instead, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, andriy yermak, after the end of the peace summit , stated in an interview with bloomberg that ukraine is open to russia's participation in the next peace summit, preparations for which are already underway, i quote mr. yermak. we think that it will be possible to invite a representative of russia, yarmak quotes and adds that ukraine's peace plan is always. envisaged the presence of moscow at the negotiating table as the ultimate goal, but only after the involvement of world leaders in kyiv's demands for the withdrawal of russian troops from the occupied territory and recognition of ukraine's borders. in your opinion, should we even enter into peace talks or invite russia to a peace

summit, given the status that putin has and, in general, what the russian federation is doing on the territory of ukraine, and this has been proven. international criminal court, or should criminals from russia sit down at the table of negotiations with the ukrainian leadership? look, of course we want to accept russia's capitulation, that's the only thing we want, at the same time it's obvious that it's not happening yet, i want to believe that for now, well, but it is not known how long it will last, so i was not talking about, you know, we have a discussion all the time, and here it is strange, i will remind you that it is... president zelensky himself forbade himself to negotiate with russia, there was already a decision of the nsdc prohibiting it from negotiating with putin, and the nsdc is actually the president, that is, he forbade himself, and now he is trying to open this gate for negotiations himself, well, it’s a little strange, i myself the fact

of changes with russia, well, it is not treason in itself, we are already in negotiations with russia, but about we are negotiating with prisoners of war, and we are negotiating about... the grain corridor? led, that is, the issue is not in the negotiations as such, in the issue in the subject of the negotiations, that is, if the subject of the negotiations is russian capitulation or the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine, well, i think that no one in ukraine will object to such negotiations, if the goal of the negotiations, well, as putin said, give me kherson and zaporizhzhia, that is, to what he has now seized. plus give it away, that means all regions to the end, well, well, they are like that negotiations, to which no ukrainian government should ever go, that is, it depends on the subject, there is only one answer to such ultimatums, i sent putin three letters from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada, because this is

the only thing he understands, only this language , and that 's why it's possible here volodin already said something, like, zelenskyi is illegitimate, and we turn to the ukrainian deputies, well, as a ukrainian deputy, and putin, and volodin, and their courts, which condemn there, i sent there, as on me, where should they be sent, but eh, but in general, i would like to say something about this summit, i don’t really understand, well, they say, we are already preparing the second summit, i apologize, but about what, i don’t really understand, no, that ukraine was on the international agenda there , the fact that the leaders of 56 countries, it seems, met and supported ukraine, and 70... nine countries signed this communiqué, that's good, but what's next? well, as far as i'm concerned, today our main task is to bring western troops into ukraine, this is a battalion of estonians or lithuanians or poles or french on the border with belarus, not even

without directly participating in hostilities, about that there, well , there is no question about it today, but at least on the border with belarus, which is liberating us. the battalion also guarantees security there, it is 100 times more important than any communique today, well, believe me, today everything is decided on the battlefield, and without success and without results on the battlefield, we, we will not have good results and in negotiations, and in general we will not have a good result of the war, but with successes, we can do without many communiques. again, i don't want to say i don't i want to say that this summit there is bad, it did not bring anything bad, it gathered. again , our friends, somewhere the circle has expanded a little, supported ukraine, well, but to see in this some kind of breakthrough, a way to victory, well , i think it is strange, and in general, there is no such thing here, in general, the timing of the summit is very

unfortunate, i will say this, and this summit a year ago, before the start of our unsuccessful counteroffensive, would have a completely different weight and representation today. the world is looking at the battlefield, unfortunately, ukraine has no success there, and the whole world is already immersed in the elections american, and against this background, well, they held, they held, but... when i hear talk about the second summit, about something else, i don’t really understand what they are talking about, and here is petro poroshenko, during his speech from the podium in verkhovna rada, stated that it is expedient to hold the second peace summit within the framework of the un general assembly, which will increase its effectiveness. let's listen to poroshenko. therefore, i fully support the self-critical position of the authorities regarding the need to hold a second summit immediately. i strongly recommend that it be held in new york

during the general assembly and take a position that will ensure peace. we strive for it. in spite of everything, the secretary general of the oo did not come to the meeting of this summit, the global peace summit, but returning to whether the ukrainian authorities should negotiate with the russians, on the eve of this global one. at the peace summit in switzerland , documents, drafts of this so-called istanbul agreement were published, and apparently the ukrainian authorities agreed on something like that, because on the other hand, well, arakhamia and other members of the ukrainian delegation could not sign or to see at least some drafts of these agreements, that is what these agreements testify to, mr. oleksiy, you have read and seen, well, to be honest , i have not read them yet. completely completely with the new york times publication, it's definitely interesting, but still they

were never signed these so-called agreements, what i know there, what i saw about the demilitarization of ukraine, well that would definitely be the way simply to the destruction of ukraine. the only thing standing between ukraine and death is the armed forces of ukraine. therefore, any condition on the demilitarization of ukraine is actually, well, if only simple. let's disarm before they kill us, so this is the first act of the finale, so there can't be such negotiations and such agreements, and you know, i think it's quite difficult to evaluate istanbul, because the authorities can say that this there was a certain diplomatic game, diversion of attention, when the goal was to remove the threat to kyiv, for example, or something else, i am this, this, this is what the government likes. to talk a lot about the fact that the minsk agreements were not like that there, one more thing, i want to say

that i am very careful about this, because i i remember the conditions in which there were agreements in minsk, i remember the conditions when the negotiations were held in istanbul, it was a super difficult situation, a super dangerous situation, super dangerous, so i am not inclined to give assessments now, we do not know yet many details, i think we will definitely learn them, rather after the war, of course. we will give all our assessments, but i will repeat once again, it is not the fact of the negotiations that is important, in fact, you even mentioned that in fact there were negotiations between ukraine and russia, and no one renounced them and there was nothing wrong with that, but what will be discussed, here is what, this is actually the key, and i would pay attention to it, considering the fact that mr. oleksiyu's last week was so full of foreign policy... meetings and some certain decisions regarding ukraine, can we say that last week there was

a turning point in the current situation in the perception of those countries that previously did not support us or supported us, somehow indirectly from the side, so that we attract more countries and more support due to a series of summits that took place and conferences regarding the restoration of ukraine. the signing of the security agreement with japan and the usa, it was a super busy week, definitely, super important, in it, of everything we listed, i think the peace summit was just the weakest link, in my opinion, did we manage to expand the circle of countries , not really, in principle these signatures are all the same countries. who were on the battlefield of ukraine, and this is precisely the problem. such key world players as

china, india, brazil, we could not involve them, well, in any case, as of now. so it was a good week for of ukraine, but it was not some kind of gap and fracture and something else. and in general , i want to say about the negotiations, you and i spent a lot of time talking about whether we are ready for negotiations with russia or not, there is more. one nuance: russia doesn't really want any negotiations with us, it's just absolutely necessary to understand, and this ultimate rude, so-called putin proposal is proof of that. that he does not want any negotiations, because it is obvious that this is unacceptable, and in general putin wants negotiations, if he wants to with someone, then with the americans, he does not want any negotiations with ukraine in principle, he wants to negotiate with the americans, what stands in the way of this is that it is not clear who to negotiate with, because the usa is a democracy, and he does not know who will be elected president there in november, as of today absolutely

nobody, that's why i think that such a fork will be very important... the elections in the usa, their result and the position of the re-elected or newly elected president in relation to ukraine and to russian aggression against ukraine. that is, the main events are still ahead? absolutely, and the american election will be pivotal. thank you, mr. oleksii, for the conversation, it was oleksii goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook, for those who are now. us on these platforms, please subscribe to our pages, be sure to like this video so that it is trending on youtube, and take part in our survey, today we ask you the following: do you feel that the situation with freedom words in ukraine? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, your own, your own opinion, if you have one that goes beyond

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is helping. we see how the determination of the world opens new ones. efforts to restore our security, among other things, it concerns the security of kharkiv, the destruction near the border by ours forces, our soldiers, positions and launchers of russian terrorists really matter, it works, and exactly as we expected. and we already have our next guest on the phone, this is mykhailo prytula, colonel za. security service of ukraine, military counterintelligence expert. mr. colonel, good evening and thank you for being with us today. good evening. mr. colonel, president zelenskyi says that thanks to the help of our western partners, it is possible to destroy the enemy on the territory of russia. thus, this is the buffer zone that putin dreamed of

on the territory of the ukrainian state appears on the territory of the russian state. biden says that... american missiles can fly deep into the territory of the russian federation for 320 km or 200 miles, does this mean that ukraine can create a buffer between ukraine and russia in this way, and maintain this buffer, this buffer zone in such a lively state, destroying the enemy and preventing them from approaching the ukrainian border. well, today we see that a lot of trouble is caused by cabs, that is, guided aerial bombs or, they are called differently, which are dropped there from a distance of at least 40 km, at an altitude of 10 km, and accordingly, in order to neutralize them, it is necessary to destroy

the carriers of these bombs, aviation bombs, otherwise it is simply impossible to shoot them, accordingly, for this you need certain the technical means that our partners have given us, or are giving us now, because so far the bombs are flying, and in order to secure our troops, we have to at least provide this forty-kilometer security zone so that russia cannot strike our positions, except besides, the technology... it is being improved, so the russians can come up with something else there, including attacks on our positions with s-300 systems. with 400 old anti-aircraft missiles, respectively, in order to secure, it is necessary to increase this zone, in which there will be no launchers of the russian federation. can it be called the security zone

that putin dreamed of, well, it is probably so, it is a really security zone for uh, that there are no russian troops there. what will happen next, well, it's hard to predict, but in any case in this case, it depends on the amount of weapons that we will receive from our... partners, because weapons only work when they are in sufficient quantity, that is, it is not a matter of single launches, as it was, for example, with the a50, but this is exactly the issue of a sufficiently large amount of weapons that would provide the entire perimeter of the ukrainian border, both now and in the future. mr. colonel, against the background of how our defense forces destroy... the enemy on the approaches to the borders, in ukraine itself, representatives of the fifth column of the russian column feel safe, well, at least

the opz deputies, whose leader medvedchuk just a few days ago announced that putin should occupy odesa and, in general, speak out against the so-called nazi regime, as he says, deputies of various levels, not only the verkhovna rada. of ukraine, and not the levels of the local level, they feel absolutely at ease, although they were elected from this pro-russian force, which is banned in ukraine. the branch of the russian orthodox church continues to work, which threatens the existence of this fifth column for ukraine, and what can she, this fifth column, do in the current situation, well, having an indisputable connection with moscow? the fact is that the enemy, he will try in any case, to break ukrainian unity and will harm our uh our people, in the fact that we

simply cannot even understand that we are one people, and this is his directed actions. well, we see that it was not very successful, however, the remnants of this hydra, they remain, they are not always enemies of ukraine. as experience shows, just people who were members of this party there for a certain time, but that it was not there have nothing to do with ukraine, they could have no ganks, therefore the very fact of being related to this party is not a crime there, the crime is supporting russian aggression against ukraine, if a person does not help ukraine, on the contrary , helps russia, then of course he is already subject to criminal . there are completely different articles, and not the very fact of belonging to this party, however, among the leaders of this party , of course, there were those people who understood what

it was about, what they were doing and why they were doing it, uh, however, one of values, for which you and i are fighting, is our democracy, and there is a very thin line between democracy and law. russian mercenaries to do whatever they want, we need to understand this very fine line, how to overcome it, and of course there is also a certain religious community that prays for russian russia to win, being in ukraine, while rockets are flying directly at these communities, well, in this case, it is a question of religious education. of our society, because someone has it too engage in, and when people are religiously literate, then they will not succumb to

these tricks, cunning tricks, when, under the guise of god, people commit aggression against ukraine. well, it is clear that there is democracy, there is freedom of religion, but it is during the war. the concept of national security, and if some political forces or political figures or religious organizations work against the ukrainian nation, against the ukrainian state, then under these conditions, is it not possible to use the national security council as a tool and defense, which can collectively determine whether or not. to make certain decisions, and then these decisions can be implemented by presidential decree, i mean that this, this long chain, when there is the verkhovna rada,

it makes decisions. there are various forces in the verkhovna rada, including those affiliated there with the russian orthodox church. in your opinion, in extraordinary or ordinary cases, as was the case, by the way, with medvedchuk's tv channels, at that time the verkhovna rada of ukraine or some other court did not make a separate decision regarding the closure of tv channels that worked openly in russia. there was a decision of the national security council, and this decision of the national security council was put into effect. why not now in such extraordinary conditions in which we are. make all decisions through the national security council? the fact is that it is a very delicate game, and if we talk about solving this issue, then we have to talk about complex, comprehensive measures, that is, simply ban some religious community there, we will make a martyr out of it, and the number of its apologists, there are some witnesses churches, then it is the number

just increase. and that's all, and they will shout that here we are being beaten and everyone is wrong and so on, that is, this issue is not resolved in this way, the issue is resolved through criminal cases, regarding those persons who may belong to any denomination, but violate the criminal laws of ukraine, the criminal code, this is on the one hand, and on the other hand, there should be a rather serious religious education in ukraine, i emphasize this again very, very much... it is important that a person can consciously make a choice and the freedom to consciously understand where the community is, what it is for itself represents, because without a religious education, well, nothing actually will happen, a person is very easy to look for, especially against the background of faith in god and faith in those in something more than the material world, therefore, of course, this

plane... it always is and has been such an arena not only for the light forces to act, but for people to be deceived, and accordingly now we have to explain to people, to do some rather serious things, so that people have a choice, and while they are there under the influence of foreign churches, they, accordingly, do not have such a thing benefit they just don't know that there can be something else, which actually uh, there is the moscow church, it uh, well, has nothing to do with the canonical ecumenical patriarchate there and so on, well, i'm taking this as an example, or maybe more common things brothers, but uh, again, we have to understand here that freedom of conscience is one of the basic freedoms and... and a person

can believe as he wishes, as it is more convenient for him, but one should not confuse faith with god with the approval of armed aggression and war, this has nothing to do with god. and one more a short question, mr. colonel, to you as a professional, russia is currently recruiting ukrainian children to set fire to the cars of ukrainian armed forces servicemen, for which they offer several thousand dollars. obbutsman lubinets reports about this, how to protect yourself from the recruitment of russian special services, not only children, but also adults, and how it can be prevented, well, first of all, you need to understand what they are doing, that is, you need to educate people again, because when the russians

offer $300. to children, as it were a hooligan act, then in fact it leads to more serious articles, for which you can sit for a very, very long time for this 300 $, so it is education and clarification of all these things to people, they are absolutely necessary in order to ensure the safety of adults as well and children from the influence of foreign special services, in addition, it should be explained that the russian special services like to use disposable agents, a disposable agent is some fool who cooperated with the russian special service, received some 30 silver coins there, then his arrested, he sits and himself is not happy that he did that, but the fact is that he thought that someone there would stand up for him...