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in general, worked in five regions, and they flew for quite a long time. and, well, do they fly too long and far, and something with this can be done, in general, if we compare it with previous attacks, has this situation with the defense against the shaheds worsened, improved, how do you assess the nuances here, and if we are talking about countermeasures against. strike drones of the shachet type, here it should be noted that mostly mobile groups work, which search for them according to certain systems there, i.e. they are already transmitted by mobile groups and worked out by mobile groups of destruction, of course, that a certain part, if they are planted along the route, for example , there is about working out the points in the western direction ukraine, then they will accept in that direction, and here we are talking about the fact that already then mobile groups are connected. which

is located, for example, in the lviv region, but here it should be noted that the creation, the main task now facing the defense forces, is the automation of these processes, because we see that for the most part... that mobile groups work against the shaheds, and we must install automatic destruction systems and create a low-altitude radar field that will allow us to work more actively on these means. again, it is clear that with by receiving more aviation, which our western partners promise us, it will be somewhat easier for us, because due to the presence in the air space, for example, of airplanes, and due to the radar equipment that is on the airplanes, we will be able to automatically... destroy them , for example, even with the same 20-millimeter guns that are on the f-16, but it is definitely necessary to move in the direction of the development of small ground systems that would counter uavs, because in principle , uavs will currently be the next challenge for any country, and we see how active

strike systems are being modernized and created on the basis of uavs, unmanned aerial systems, or just ordinary bopols, so in fact here we have to talk about the construction of some systems that could destroy and we can already see, for example, when rain metal says that they will work together there to make certain systems based on the leopard that will destroy such and such air targets. in principle, we have our own ukrainian developments, we are currently working on the creation of a radar system of firing relays that will help us this issue should be resolved, and therefore it should be noted here that ukrainian engineers are actively involved in this, and the destruction will be both at the expense of, for example, interception by other small uavs, and at the expense of, for example, a cannon or a cheaper version rockets well, yes, after all, it’s not patriots to shoot at them, it will somehow be too irrational, but look, well, it’s chess, it’s

one story, but there are also russian reconnaissance drones, and with them somehow recently, somehow everything i would say yes, well, ambiguously, because first of all they are arrive inconspicuous enough and far enough away, if earlier they guided there in the district of kharkiv, now it is already somehow recorded that such a drone flew to kyiv and guided there, and the russians , in principle, have built a fairly effective system, when this reconnaissance drone transmits sufficiently quickly information about literally a car that slowed down, well, a little bit not at the roadblock, and iskander flies there quite quickly, and it's not... security, what is the difficulty of destroying, well, first of all, first of all, detecting these reconnaissance drones, then their destruction, because well, i say that they, they remain invisible for quite a long time, there are two key points here, why there are

more russian uavs of the reconnaissance type, it is due to the fact that ukraine has carried out a certain number of operations that made it impossible to work long-range radar devices to look towards ukraine from the russian side. this is the destruction of aircraft such as the drelo a50, and strikes on such radar systems, such as , for example, the same container, but at the same time, and russia has previously worked with uav deicing, but these were, well, close front and border lines. now we see, in fact, that the activity of the russian bepalats has increased a little, but at the same time we say that there are certain developments regarding the destruction of these bopols, we already see, for example, even videos on telegram channels, when a knocks down, for example, the the most reconnaissance bopolat, therefore, in principle, there is work, but here you need to understand one essential point, no less important, that in principle these systems are unmanned aviation, or unmanned, for example, an ordinary classic bopolatom with electric electric engine, even without an internal combustion engine, and they

are inconspicuous for conventional classical radar systems, so we are talking about the creation of a low-altitude radar field system, where there will be a large number of ... in the air at low altitudes and which is small in size, so it is hardly visible to classical radar systems. that's why we say that, for example, israel has three air defense systems there, it's david's sling, arrow, arrow david and there, well, there and more, that's why we are talking about the creation of a fourth system that would help, for example, to detect less visible signs. but here it must be understood that a large number of such means of detection will be needed, because they are not designed for long-range work, they can see, for example, within a radius of 100 km, so here it is necessary to work on the main roads, to install such systems that would allow us to find out, now

ukraine is working on this, we are also working, our company is working, it is currently engaged in these means, but there is a certain time for this and therefore, well we understand that we need to speed up and are actively working now, but nevertheless there are systems. western-style, which help us work in some directions, and which, for example, are these systems, what is it, what are you talking about, well, let's go back to the usual cheetah, which can also see the air there at certain distances. goals, that is, our systems are also redesigned, the soviet systems that were redesigned, the question here is that the price of shock weapons is actually going down, due to this it is not profitable to use more expensive systems, for example countermeasures, that is why there are, for example, the same vampires who help work on these air targets, and if we talk about the use of the same cheetahs and vampires, that is, how many of them are needed to close the territory of ukraine, well, now i am, well.. . that you won't tell me everything, well, at least the order, well,

let's start with the fact that, in principle, we are talking about these systems of small radio activity, but here i will repeat that, in principle , the system of work of mobile groups, it is unique and it is of higher quality, that's why we talk about that the creation of systems of mobile groups, it will continue to be effective, but here it is necessary to increase the detection systems directly, that is , when we see a group of bpols moving along a separate route and it is done. the calculation is approximate, where they are moving, and their mobile groups are already waiting there, but there will already be work, for example, an automatic system of destruction, targeting and destruction, that is , summarizing this, i understand that we are now talking about creating such a four-level protection, one - that's what concerns there, well iskander, there's a caliber, something like that, something more powerful, something else, it's shahet, yes, and what else... that is, sum up just one, two, three. starting simply by classification, we take ballistic missiles,

aeroballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and, for example, bepols of various types, and, for example, unguided missiles of short medium range, that is, we are talking about the fact that a number of equal systems are being created, which will be intercepted at the expense of the work of new modern radar systems, because it should be noted that again, this is completely a new direction here as well... but we need more high-quality and high-tech weapons. tell me, is it theoretically possible to turn off these drones, well, with some kind of directed radio signal or something ? there is such a possibility with pulse signals, when a certain problem is created, and this means is simply blown up in the air both by laser systems and by electromagnetic pulses. and how much it can, but it must be developed. that is, we have not developed it now, as i understand it. well, we have the british. they took us to hand over the laser system, but for now there is informational silence about this, but nevertheless it should

be noted that there are a number of developments in ukraine that are currently advancing, that are currently being worked out, well, we just wish you great success in this, advancement, because it is very necessary, this is exactly what i believe, tell me something like this, what is the difficulty in closing the pre-frontal territory from strikes? well, you, for example, bombers of the ussr, what are the biggest problems there? the front-line zone makes quality work impossible, for example, air defense systems, because due to the radar equipment included in them, they are very visible to the enemy and can be hit, for example, from the same artillery or there from other means of close range. therefore, in principle, we are saying that in the front-line zone it will be better to work with aircraft on air targets, which will be. try to drop either air- guided aerial bombs or, for example, launch short-medium-range missiles, and therefore

it is more effective to work from the air, but nevertheless, as we can see, our military guys and they work very well even with portable manpads, which allow them to destroy russian planes, well, when these planes fly to a certain distance, when they drop 40 km from a distance, then i think manpads, of course. won't help here a little bit, again, our guys work for us, they go to the territory and practice, so we see such results and it is very positive, but in fact it is very difficult and it would be much easier to deal with it, for example , aviation at the expense of that the same f16 aircraft will be able to operate at a distance of up to 185 km, shoot down any enemy target. but you know, tell me what we can solve in general, what problems can we solve in case of the arrival of the same planes? 16, and what, after all, should not be counted on that it will allow

to solve? well, again, let's start with the fact that the receipt of f-16 aircraft is a significant strengthening of the forces, the air force of ukraine, er, because due to the receipt of more modern, modern aviation, we must not forget that ukraine is given not just f16 , and are transferred along with the planes, long-range relocation detection of swedish saabs, it is essential. strengthening the capabilities and improving the tactical and technical characteristics of the aircraft, because we, for example, in combination with the work with such aircraft, command aircraft, we can say that our f-16 will be... 4 plus generations, again, due to the fact that that they can work with exceptional radar systems and receive tasks, target guidance from the aircraft itself, radio detection data, and here we are saying that due to the work of these aircraft, which will do reconnaissance, they see not only air targets, but they can also see ground targets, that is, we are talking

about the air of the anti-aircraft defense of the enemy, about the movement of military equipment, and again here is the ... accurate targeting and target identification for the f-16, that is, we we are talking about the fact that our soldiers will be able to work more safely on the front line or near the border and work on important objects both on the territory of the russian federation and on the territory of temporarily occupied ukraine. therefore , in principle, there are many advantages here, it is clear that i want, say so, say, i hear you, a large number, but nevertheless we will rely on what we have now. and you know, the last thing we heard about the planes was that they would still be there sometime this year, but we remember that they once said that they would definitely be there in the summer of the 24th, well, the summer is already going like that, now, well, as if this year, it is not known when, you know, is there not such an impression that somehow this transfer of planes is being delayed, is everything

normal, maybe, well, can you clarify a little this situation? if you know, well, actually, let's go back to the fact that the training of pilots involves not only training pilots to fly these planes, but the basics of conducting combat operations, that is, we are talking about the possibility of practicing as part of both the aviation unit and aviation, certain tasks that will be standing in front of our pilots, again, now we are talking about the fact that we are being transferred two long-range detection aircraft, saab command aircraft, so here we also need to ... train together with these aircraft, and i think that there is a need for more prepared and well-trained teams that are currently taking place, that is, we are talking about the fact that even telepilots who have already undergone certain training, they are now practicing certain exercises and are already preparing for, for example, some combat operations or combat tasks,

taking into account the territory of ukraine or on the territory of the russian federation, that is, we are saying that there is a need to work out future ones, for example, some tasks that will be done on the territory of the russian federation or on the territory of temporarily occupied ukraine, so in fact we are saying about the fact that here, well, i do not see any delay here, there is an understanding that in principle there is a gradual acquisition of certain opportunities and an increase in opportunities, and due to this there is simply an understanding that it is necessary to train pilots more deeply in some direction or, for example, to get some additional knowledge, well, we should not forget that, in principle, the infrastructure of ukraine is already ready to receive aircraft, moreover, we even have training facilities, ground training facilities, we are talking directly about simulators supplemented realities that will allow, for example, pilots to perform certain exercises first on the ground, and then in the air, and we must not

forget that there is already a trained group of engineers who are ready to meet planes in ukraine. well, i literally made a statement today. the american spokesman, i just don't remember who exactly, that after all the planes will be based on the territory of ukraine, that is , it is not about the fact that they will be there from some there, well, i don't know the romanian bases to take off there or something, that's all well, it will be on the territory of ukraine, i understand that it is also some kind of essential, you know, preparatory, well, how to say clarification, well, maybe there is a general one. the atmosphere, the preparation, and speaking of the approach, the planes are actually approaching, you know, i would like to discuss one more such aspect very briefly, this is actually about radio-electronic warfare on the front line, that is, directly, well, that is, our drones are flying, russian drones are flying, and now for now well, a lot of people say that

the russians seem to have the upper hand in electronic warfare. in this regard , they manage it easier than us, how do you evaluate this one the situation directly at the front? well , again, the situation with the presence of anti-electronic warfare equipment both at the enemy and at ours is different in different directions, so it should be noted here that in principle, if we talk about russian electronic warfare equipment, then i constantly say that they are overestimated, because these means of radio-electronic warfare, which are in a classic design, what russia has been actively developing recently, are means that for... signals of both navigation and mobile communication or, for example, the communication of a conventional classic radio, and therefore what is now needed in... large numbers is countermeasures against classic civilian uavs, which are now actively used as combat and, in principle, that ukraine and russia are faced with

the lack of such means in the armed forces, so now development is actively underway on our side, and the russians are also trying to somehow replace it, but china is actively helping them in this matter, and regarding ukrainian means, i should note here that there is a much increased number of companies engaged in radio electronic warfare means and... for example, on our own experience, we already work with our own developments, with our own systems of creating interference and amplifying the signal, that is, we say that most of the components that we, we purchase components, but we do not purchase, prepare solutions and develop our own systems that help our military defend against strike or reconnaissance drones, so... in principle, in perspective, i would say more ukraine, because, tell me, do we have a connection with a guest, because something is a little unclear, you

can you hear me, i'm sorry, yes, there's just something here, then something breaks the connection, maybe there's a light somewhere, well, now you can see normally, so in principle you can continue, you know , that's why, yes, yes, please, well, ask . i just heard the other day, well, the russians were bragging that they had now developed some kind of shock uav that doesn't work at the same frequencies or something as the mavik, and this would supposedly allow them to somehow jam the mavik without being afraid at the same time to drown out one's own otsey ot pela, well, first of all, as far as it is possible in general, is this a reality, is it this is some kind of... boasting, and secondly, well, actually in this context, what are the possibilities at all? well , let's not reveal a lot of details there, but

let's note that, for example, most of the systems that are purchased by russians, and we know the process for a long time and understand what frequencies they will switch to, so if they are happy with some frequencies, then it is them can rejoice, but they must be prepared that we already have a countermeasure, because in fact. we are actively working in this direction as well, we need to understand where he plans to move enemy, so again, we have a ready-made solution on all ranges that can use y. and how to make sure that these ready-made solutions do not jam our own uavs, because as i understand it, this is also a serious enough problem that someone constantly starts working with electronic warfare, and as a result, ours also fall, questions... communication, in fact, here we are talking about the fact that, for example, we have some systems that we can already implement artificial intelligence, which will allow us to check and detect, for example, the possibility

oppression by certain means that belong to our defense forces, therefore, in principle, there are certain developments here that will allow us to work actively and not harm our own disembodied systems, but again, at the moment , while it is still being implemented, we need to. .. the military knows that the key to success is good communication between units. thank you. we spoke with anatoly hrabchinsky, deputy general director of a company engaged in electronic warfare, an aviation expert. thank you very much for having him with us joined and explained everything in sufficient detail. i remind you about our collection for the repair of armored vehicles, be sure to join it, because it is very important in the combat zone , to restore the equipment, it is very important when our... fighters have the opportunity to use it, that it, you know, is restored and actually goes into battle again, well, we will meet with you in a week, stay with us

on the espresso tv channel, we still have a lot of interesting things for you, ten years. sofiy kasaveleva. this girl lived before the start of a full-scale invasion on the left bank of the kherson region in the village of nova mayachka. as this territory was occupied from the first days of the great war, the connection with the child was cut off, and for more than two years, nothing is known about the fate of little sofia. perhaps the child still remains in the territory not under the control of ukraine, or maybe he, like many children, was taken to russia. therefore, it is important to know even the smallest details about the girl's disappearance. if suddenly anyone has seen sofia savilieva or knows where she might be, call us immediately on the hotline of the service

search for magnolia children by short number 11630. calls from all ukrainian mobile operators are free. you can also contact us using the telegram bot of the child tracing service. and this is 15-year-old dasha myroshnychenko, also from the kherson region. information about the girl's disappearance was also received on february 24, 2022. the child lived in the kakhov district, in the city of tavriysk. i believe that thanks to your care. the girl will be found. look carefully at the photo. perhaps someone has seen dasha and knows at least something about her. each one is important trifle. and here is another girl who also disappeared in the kherson region and about whom there has been no news for more than two years. this is 14-year-old yulia ivashova. she looks her age, has an oval face and light blond hair. the girl lived in the

village of skadovsky district of the region. cardeshinka if anyone has seen yuliya ivashova or knows anything about the child, immediately call the short number 1163. the hotline of the child tracing service works 24 hours a day, calls from all ukrainian mobile operators are free. and now i want to tell about the missing children in the occupied donetsk region. look at the photo. this is 13-year-old dmytro horovy. nothing is known about the fate of this boy for more than two years. unfortunately, details about his disappearance are scarce. i only know that when the war started, the child was in mariupol, and on the same day the boy disappeared without a trace. perhaps he, like many others, was taken to russia, or is still being held somewhere in the temporarily occupied territories. therefore, i very much ask you to look carefully at the photo of dmytro gurovoy. he looks about 13 years old, he has light blond hair and dark eyes. if anyone has seen the boy or knows where he

can... try now, don't delay and call us on the magnolia children's helpline on the short number 11630. calls are free from any mobile operator. and this is 15-year-old ilya polishchuk. he is also from mariupol, and nothing is known about the fate of this boy since the beginning of the full-scale war. contact with elya was lost on february 24, and no one knows where he may be now. therefore, i appeal to everyone who sees me... now, and especially to the residents of mariupol, who may be watching this program on social networks. look carefully at the boy's photo: he looks 14-15 years old, he has light blond hair and dark eyes. if anyone has seen idlya or knows where he may be now, do not delay and call us on the magnolia children's search hotline at the short number 1163. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free, if

there is no possibility. call, write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram, any information is important. i told you the stories of just five children who disappeared due to a full-scale russian invasion. in general, the number of missing boys and girls in the occupied territories is many times greater, and everyone can help find them. it is worth spending at least a minute of your time for this. go to the website of the magnolia children's search service in the missing children of ukraine section. here you can view the photos of all the missing persons, perhaps you will recognize someone and eventually help to find them. we have created a resource through which you can report any crime against the child anywhere, anytime, just go to the site and report, and we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stopcrime ua.

we are starting an information day on the spresso tv channel with a news broadcast. khrystyna porubiy works in the studio. this night, russia once again attacked the ukrainian energy industry with drones. ukrenergo reported that the objects were damaged in vinnytsia, donetsk, kyiv and dnipropetrovsk regions. previously, there were no casualties. one woman died, another man was injured as a result of the russian attack on an alder tree in the kharkiv region.

a fire broke out at the site of the attack.