will contribute to the establishment of a multipolar world justly, which is based on the un charter, on the rejection of threats to use force, especially the use of force in the world, that is , he says the right things that are written in the un charter, but in fact we understand that neither he nor you , with whom he signs such documents are certainly not those who follow the letter and spirit of the un charter, sir. oleksandr, today at the end of his visit to vietnam, putin spoke a lot, including about ukraine to journalists and commented on his so-called peaceful initiatives with which he came out on the eve of the global peace summit, and what he said, he said that the reaction of western countries was predictable, and russia's proposals regarding the future of the russian-ukrainian war will change depending on the situation on the ground, this is the first, second , that for russia a strategic... defeat will mean the end

of its statehood, if the west wants, then they will fight to the end, because there is nothing to fear and we must go to the end. and thirdly, what putin said, that if ukraine is counting on what russian troops will leave the territory of the ukrainian state, then this will never happen, well, in fact, he specified his so-called peace plan, which actually means a war plan. well, that is, what he said a week ago was simply a challenge to our western partners and ukraine, and his conditions, they were unacceptable, does this mean that putin has enough strength and opportunities to participate in the russian-ukrainian war for a long time, to wage this war, and most importantly to temporarily keep its large military contingent on the territory of the ukrainian state. by the occupied

territories, well, you know, i think that he himself does not know whether he has enough forces, because we understood from the fact that when he made the decision for a large-scale invasion, that he does not have adequate information and understanding, about his own forces, about ukraine, well, they miscalculated the reaction of the world, first of all, of course, the free countries, the second point, it is clear that he will pretend to be someone who has set himself up for the long haul. conflict that he can mobilize all available resources to continue the war, but this may be an illusion, because of course there are opportunities examples, examples from the history of the same soviet union that fought in afghanistan, the efficiency of the economy, as it was, is absolutely not enough for all those, let's say, support costs.

of the eastern bloc to participate in various projects in other parts of the world, and all this undermined the soviet union, together with the fact that the ideology itself was rotten. in today's russia, there is actually no ideology, it is such, you know, you could say, an eclectic collection of different things from the empire of the soviet union, and plus they clearly borrow, even in the rhetoric from nazi germany, how much... this construction is so, you know, strong, and what it can withstand in the long run, no one knows, so he can say anything, the situation could be different , but it is very good that he says these things, it is such, you know, a cold shower on , especially for those europeans who have not yet said anything about compromises, that ukraine must make a decision, because this war has reached a dead end, it there is one... a reminder that this

war has a genocidal, exceptional character character for ukraine, that if for europe, for the west as a whole, it will be acceptable for ukraine to lose and cease to exist and cease to exist as an outpost of the free world on the european continent, then of course you can push ukraine to compromises or reduce aid, and then of course that putin will be pleased. well, it is clear that these are his speeches, they are based on... his calculations that the political situation in europe may change based on the results of the elections to the european parliament there national parliaments, let's see what will happen in france, but trump's visit to belyagodom next year is also important, and it is clear that then the situation may be a little better for him. i don't know about trump's reaction, no one can predict now, because his horse is so unpredictable, he thinks that this is... very

good for negotiations both in business and in politics, no one guarantees that he will, let's say, turn away from of ukraine immediately, or not through certain calculations, through advice. military and diplomats, tsruushniki cannot change its own opinion and start putting pressure on russia, especially if he feels that he can win this war and go down in history as a person who, like reagan, actually led to the collapse of the evil empire, so all these factors, of course, they will to play such a negative role for us, it would mean that he would throw whatever powers he has, but from the other side. we still have time to prepare, we still have time with this administration in washington to work with our european partners, making sure that we have no other option to, let's say, to remain a sovereign state and preserve our nation, our identity, and for this

we need first of all conventional defense assistance, but also long-term commitments of our partners, well, this is actually included in formally included in the idea of ​​security. bilateral agreements that we sign with our partners, which give us some understanding for the future, how our partners will support us. mr. oleksandr, immediately after the end of the global peace summit, the ukrainian side announced that work on the global summit was beginning of peace-2, and zelensky and yaermak did not rule out that a representative of the russian federation could be at this second peace summit, at the same time, as they write in their own. in the telegram channel, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, preparations for the second peace summit continue, and again, again the enemy is trying to disrupt this summit, the russians are upset by the support of ukraine

in the west and among the countries of the global south, however, the reality is that a just peace, according to the charter the un will still defeat the enemy's attempts to change the world order and the rules of the game will prove them. to accept, is there the prospect that the enemy will accept the world order and the rules of the game before the second peace summit and become one of the participants of this peace summit, as zelensky and yarmak once said. well, is it possible to become a participant of the summit, probably yes, there may be such a situation when our partners will insist on this, and we... saw the reason why the chinese did not attend the first peace summit, because they think that if if russia were there, there would be some positive result, and i also understand why the president and the head of the office say that it is not excluded the possibility of the participation of russian representatives,

in order not to discourage, not to reduce the support for us from our western partners, here it is absolutely clear whether the russians will be there. the next summit with the participation of russia or not, of course yes, and they are of course partly satisfied with the fact that a certain number of countries were not present, first of all, of course, this is china, and a certain number of countries did not sign the final communique, which, by and large, is not so too anti-russian, everything in this communiqué was in principle from an international point of view rights, first of all... here he wrote everything correctly and there is nothing to argue with, and it is clear that the next summit, he will consider other points and more inconvenient for the russian federation, but i want to agree with mr. putin on one thing, whatever - what are the parameters for the end of this war, i

am not talking about negotiations or does it mean any agreements, any compromises, any parameters depend on what is happening on... on the fronts, and it is clear that the most important diplomats now are not ukrainian diplomats and not our partners, but ours the military, who create the basis for this war to end sooner, i do not believe in diplomacy with the russian federation, since we have no room for compromise, since this war has an absolutely clear geno-national character, diplomacy is never for it.. . stopped genocides, it could certainly help the victim of such genocide in some way, in our case it is defense, economic, humanitarian, diplomatic aid, as well as the introduction of sanctions, limiting the resource base for the aggressor to lead

further this war, so diplomacy is diplomacy, but it will definitely not lead us to peace at the end of this year, wherever this summit will take place, the most important diplomacy is on the battlefield, and for formal diplomats it is to support, let's say, the engagement of the same the same level of support, god grant more so that everyone has everything necessary for... for our military to defend the state and liberate the territory, they had it. thank you, mr. oleksandr , for the conversation, it was diplomat oleksandr hara, and friends, we continue our work in live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please don't forget to subscribe to our pages, like this video and vote on ours. do you see an increase in the fight against corruption in ukraine? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no,

if your answer is more extensive than two answers, either yes or no, please write about it in the comments, it is important for us to know your opinion, and if you see us in tv broadcasts, pick up your smartphone and phone and vote if you think there is a strengthening of the fight against corruption in ukraine (0800-211-381), no. 700 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we have viktor shlinchak, chairman of the board of the institute of world politics. mr. viktor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations sergey, thank you for inviting me. so, let's start with corruption, because we ask our tv viewers whether they see it or not see the strengthening of the fight against corruption, and here is washington today. the post already writes that zelenskyi was disappointed by blinken's attention

to corruption in ukraine during the last meeting, according to the publication, between the authorities of ukraine and the united states of america, where further strained relations in the fight against corruption pose a constant threat to aid to kyiv. i will quote the publication. many in zelenskyi's camp say in private conversations that while corruption remains a problem, anti-corruption efforts will be a distraction. from what they think should be the main victory over russia, writes the washington post. mr. viktor, in your opinion, does the current government make enough efforts to fight corruption, or rather, not even to fight corruption, but to remove corruption risks from various transactions and at the stage of various other transactions with money. with tenders about, well, just take away this corrupt component? well, this is

a very philosophical question, obviously this question should be asked not to me, but to the representatives of the authorities, do they even do this, but i i understand why this question is constantly asked by our western partners. well, look, not a week goes by without some kind of information about actions of this or that official, we know that there are some proceedings against more than 100 people's deputies in the parliament, and actually this also clearly does not beautify ukraine. we know that there are proceedings against government officials, a whole series of government officials, moreover , sometimes it happens that the last name of the government officials. we will find out only when they begin to appear in some criminal cases chronicles, and of course that all this cannot

help but worry our western partners, because money is allocated to support the budget, money is allocated to support the army, and actually, if you look, think about how these people, whose decision depends on the allocation help, perceive this information from'. parties, it looks like no matter how much they give to ukraine, the money will still come here and disappear somewhere. accordingly, the motivation is lost, why give money to the country? moreover, arguments are given to those opponents who do not want ukraine received money, and we saw it very clearly, even in the speeches of the republicans, when they categorically dismissed the question. support of ukraine, of course, some representatives of the republican party in the house of representatives, but nevertheless, this

was also one of the arguments. in addition, when we are now talking about pro-social polls, once again the issue of corruption became dominant in these polls, and even overtook the issue of war. accordingly, this means that these are all. facts starting from the issues there that concerned the central committee, military commissars and so on next, i'll finish. or issues of mistrust of specific anti-corruption bodies, all this is put into one such, well, we can say basket, and accordingly carries a very negative, in principle, trail for those of our partners who continue to support us, well, it cannot be that when we say , that we

need money so that certain people... there explained corrupt actions by the fact that we don't steal international aid, we steal from our budget, well, it looks funny, isn't it, because the ukrainian budget directly depends on direct infusions and from international organizations, from our donors, western aid, etc., so it’s okay to be a fool here... it will work, we need to really deal with this issue, and for two years, it seems to me that after all, there was such a common consensus that journalists, especially experts, did not focus on the facts of corruption in order not to give

arguments to those who understood that it would harm the reputation of ukraine. now it has turned into such a full-scale full-scale germination or full-scale laundry , well, let's just say it's dirty underwear, and indeed every day we have some certified facts, if it is not corrected. you can be angry with our western partners, say that they are not looking in the right direction, you can also blame western journalists, but do you remember that even simon schuster wrote a very sacramental phrase a year ago, they are stealing like the last, and

this phrase then did not like it very much, including in the president's office, they refuted it. but instead, you can refute only what is false, in this case there is still a rather large part of the facts, which, unfortunately, have confirmation, and the united states of america is well aware of what is happening with the tenders, what is happening with the use of funds, what is happening with the use of funds... of western aid, so you should not think that when the funds are found to ukraine, they simply dissolve somewhere and no one sees where they are going, well, if, in fact, the fact that our high-ranking officials do not live on their salaries, but

feel quite so well during the war, they even see ukrainian journalists, of course, our western partners are ready to see it too. the latest story is with deputy prosecutor general dmytro verbytskyi, there is already an official investigation into possible illegal enrichment of him and property owned by his girlfriend, they bought an expensive house there during the war , this deputy prosecutor general drives expensive cars together with his girlfriend, the prosecutor general of ukraine andrii kostin was summoned to the verkhovna rada and... did not appear in the verkhovna rada, although the prosecutor general's office had a deputy prosecutor to report on the accusations against verbytskyi, there began an official, official inspection, then a public investigation into the deputy director of the dbr , oleksandr udavichenko, who lives in an apartment in one of the most elite housing complexes in kyiv, but in

the official's declaration about this property, which i ... which costs 9,000 dollars, nothing is said, well, that is, during the last few weeks, many such stories appear in the ukrainian press, i remember very well how in 2016 this law of anti-corruption laws was adopted and created anti-corruption bodies, how everyone was proud of the fact that finally such bodies of justice appear in ukraine, which cannot be influenced, which these... these bodies will fight corruption in ukraine, what, mr. viktor, went wrong? well, first of all, excuse me, here i will say, perhaps, my subjective opinion, as a member of the commission. who elected the first composition of the national committee of the national committee, i stated even then that this division

of responsibility into various anti-corruption structures will lead to the fact that we will have a problem with those responsible, that is, we now have the national committee of the national committee, nabu, a special anti-corruption prosecutor's office we have an anti-corruption court, we have a security service, we have a web, we have, what is more, the general prosecutor's office, we have a tax office, we have a bunch of now some bodies that, by and large, should be responsible and should to report to the society for his work, instead you see how cases are transferred from one body, he... certain cases are pushed out and somewhere there they are hidden and accordingly then

you cannot find the extreme and in the 16th and 17th years i said it could lead to that we will indeed spawn a great many such bodies, but there will be more... chaos than good, and i have even convinced, including our european partners, our western partners, that this is clearly not the best model, which can exist, because there really is no main thing, there is no order in all of this, it is already now suspected that they have merged some cases there, the nzk were on this issue, db. it is not clear how he does what things and how it ends, and therefore it all rests only one thing, that in general, this entire

anti-corruption vertical is ineffective, and the fact that this vertical is ineffective is evidenced in particular by the law that the verkhovna rada passed today on restarting the bureau of economic security (bep) with... the independent selection of a new head , which is provided by this document: an independent selection director, mandatory re-certification of employees, personnel selection with the participation of international partners and independence of institutions. well, actually, let's hope that this whole anti-corruption machine nevertheless, it will be the right way and will not depend on any political decisions or political influences, because they, all these structures were supposed to be independent. in relation to the authorities and act proportionally to all authorities and do not pay attention to anyone. another topic

is short enough, we don't have much time on the air, mr. viktor, putin continues to destroy the ukrainian energy industry, and following the meeting with government officials on energy security, president zelenskyi said that this issue will be dealt with by one of the first groups to implement formulas of peace. let's listen to the president. and ukraine, we must restore real energy security in all its aspects and overcome the russian attitude to energy, to energy resources, as to weapons. this also applies to protection against russian energy terror. the world can help in this as well. already in july, we are preparing the first steps in this direction. also, today i held a meeting with government officials, the office team and the secretary of the nsdc regarding the energy situation, we are preparing solutions that will make the heating season more reliable and give people have more opportunities to get through this

extremely difficult period in terms of energy, shortages and blackouts now. i instructed to present all the details of what the state can do and the details of what specific directions in the field of energy should continue to mobilize partners. mr. viktor, how can the world help ukraine and in what way? well, first of all, equipment, ordering equipment, it takes about a year. everyone perfectly understands that what was broken by russian missiles, it will take months to restore it, no, no, no, no, and maybe even years. and accordingly, we have. unfortunately, the stock of what we bought there last year to change the blocks, all these

blocks, respectively. is in a very small amount, i don’t know who wrote speeches to the president when he said that we can reach large capacities there by the end of the year, now all the energy experts say that it is simply not impossible, uh, here is the most important thing now, so that our partners, including western ones, in the current conditions, in the current realities, help us plan what we need to rebuild first of all, and which energy, we want to see the energy system in, let's say, 5 years, because

it is obvious that the war in perhaps it is necessary to focus on something else entirely. by the way, today president zelenskyi said that schools and hospitals should be equipped with solar panels, that is, there are some points that, in principle, we are now trying to solve in such an emergency manner, of course, that it will take months, and of course... that the winter will be extremely difficult, everyone states this and everyone warns about it, but so far there is no single, let's say, recipe, how to minimize all these challenges that will face us in the winter, well, but this is a question of a question not only ukrainians and ukraine, but also obviously international structures, such as the un, because... what

putin is doing, it inevitably leads to a humanitarian disaster and the destruction of civilian infrastructure. of course, the un should have reacted to this a long time ago, but in the current situation, it seems to me that this is exactly the case is there a reason now to say or somehow influence russia, because they are actually creating a humanitarian disaster in ukraine? well, they are not only creating a humanitarian disaster. in this way, they will artificially create an influx of refugees, new refugees to european countries, because if ukraine freezes in winter, it is clear that some ukrainian families will try to go to the countries of the european union at this time, where everything will be fine with energy, respectively in in this case there are... tasks,

which putin puts before himself. thank you, mr. viktor, for the conversation. it was viktor shlichak, chairman of the board of the institute of world politics. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel and on our platforms in youtube and facebook, but we are already summing up our television results of our survey. let me remind you that we conducted a survey throughout our broadcast and asked you about whether you see an increase in the fight against corruption in ukraine. so 6% yes, 94% no, these are the results of our poll today, friends, i am finishing today's program, on friday we will traditionally meet at 20:00, in our studio will be the prosecutor general, the former prosecutor general of ukraine yuriy lutsenko, we will talk about everything, there will be a big broadcast, and plus there will also be my female journalist colleagues, kateryna nekrecha and maryna

danyliuk yaermalayeva, don't miss it. broadcast until tomorrow, abnormal heat has gripped the world, the air temperature is breaking records, hundreds of dead and thousands of people in hospitals, what to expect in ukraine, we will analyze in today's issue. bbc: i am olga palomaryuk. summer has just begun temperatures are already high. extreme heat in saudi arabia. the air temperature rose to over 50° in zatinka. at this time , the khadch, an annual pilgrimage, takes place there. muslims from all over the world come to mecca. this year there are almost 2 million of them. but people die because of the heat. more than 1,000 dead are reported.