maybe with china, maybe something will be mixed between the chinese-brazilian option, because let's be honest, china is our enemy, it openly shows that it is our enemy, and for it ukraine is food, from the point of view of brazil, if you live somewhere in brazil, in the favelas, you are absolutely purple, what is happening there in that ukraine, you consider all white european people to be colonizers a priori, without understanding the intricacies of history, that we, for example, are the same white people who suffered from... colonial policy of the russian empire, it is very important because politics, it consists of nuances, and excuse me, when journalists from france approach my colleague tetyana nikolayenko, they say that we are all at once, we are all there, we were at this peace summit, but we did not quite understand what kind of peace summit it was , you need a war summit, how to improve your position in the fact that you have won it, well, this is a correct remark, literally half an hour ago on the air we had... yuriy lutsenko, just as he

was talking about the need to hold a war summit , not a peace summit, or a victory summit, how to defeat russia, well, accordingly to articulate all these issues, well, maybe in the process of preparing for the world-2 summit , an idea will arise to hold a victory summit or a summit on how to win this war, rather than agreeing with the russians, but at the same time, when we talk about these... negotiations with russia, then we have to understand the context in which ukraine is now, as well as the international context, and the demands that our western partners have on the ukrainian authorities, in particular, regarding the fight against corruption , this week the publication of the washington post came out, and in principle, the publication, an influential american publication writes that zelenskyi was disappointed by blinken's attention to corruption in ukraine during the last meeting, according to the media. ukraine and the united

states of america, where relations in the fight against corruption are further strained, which creates a constant threat to aid to kyiv, and it is clear that in this situation, obviously, the issue of fighting corruption will become relevant. we see the journalistic investigations that came out just this week about the deputy prosecutor general verbytskyi, about the deputy director... of the sbi, who lives there in elite real estate worth more than or about 900 thousand dollars, and declares that he lives somewhere not there, that is, these issues will be clearly articulated to the ukrainian authorities one way or another, and here the question is how the ukrainian authorities will react to this, because in the usual manner of violating all diplomatic canons and norms, which zelensky is now demonstrating, is not you. simply goes to talk

neither with the americans, nor with the british, nor with the germans. kateryna, what do you think, whether the ukrainian leadership will still dare to fight corruption, and i remember very well what olympian zelensky asked poroshenko at the stadium, he said, why do all your friends have two hands? well, they say they have to be chopped up, because they were involved in corruption. are involved, but probably the same question should be articulated now to zelensky or all your friends with two hands. we will see how you would react, or how they will react. i am referring to my colleague's previous thesis that there is a peace or war summit, what are the partners ready for? well, we clearly understand that, for example, there is no such thing as ukraine has in america or in germany to win, but ukraine must endure, we will be there with ukraine, supporting so that it endures, this is the moment, for this partners.

maybe they are not ready to subscribe that ukraine should win, and russia should collapse there, well , no matter how ukrainians there dream about it, for example, but regarding corruption topics and issues, here is an important point, it is obvious that ukraine's partners, they help and support , but they are paying attention, especially since it is already the third year of a full-scale war, it is not the first half of the year or the first year, but when everyone can we thought about whether ukraine would really survive, and now these questions are timely, as we understand, they are standing. as the washington post writes, and that the conversation here was difficult and unpleasant, obviously unpleasant. today i was at the ostrich farm in the kyiv region, and there, well, we know about ostriches that they bury their heads in the sand. i would like that even if there is some kind of corruption scandal, or there is a question for an official, that he lives, well, in such a fortune, very large, and when the investigators do it and show it, it really shocks ukrainians, who are used to corruption, but during the war it it doesn't come to my head,

but i wanted it to be communicated here, so that there would really be a reaction to it, and then, probably, it would satisfy the ukrainian society and western partners there, right there and then... the question and the reaction, as first, at the time of the investigation, let's figure out why this official lives, and has such wealth, and where he lives, and why he does not declare and so on, if the investigation has any questions, i want to see a transparent investigation, i want to see, even at the moment, as there is still no verdict or conclusion of the investigation, that these people there or their bosses, they came out and commented on it, communicated, we saw this week that they did not come to the parliament to communicate important issues. this is what i want to see openness, it seems to me that it is not cool here and there is a cool example of communication, when even a person who obviously has some certain questions for him, has problems, some indisputable evidence for society of this or that guilt, can there is

a moral and ethical one, but it comes out, for example, and communicates it when the hero of a certain investigation, he doesn't communicate it, doesn't come out or does some such dry unsubscribe and doesn't answer questions. to critical questions, this gives rise to new questions, mistrust, not trust, but whether there will be an investigation and so on, that is, you want , first of all, quick communication, even if you do not yet know what happened there, tell , that we follow this, we really do an investigation, the person is already there, for example, goes on vacation of his own free will, so as not to interfere with the investigation, and then, probably in society, and also in western partners will have more trust in these matters, and then, of course, if there are any suspicions of corruption. so that there would be an investigation, a verdict, again, so that society would not forget, because we now have some kind of news in telegram channels, some kind of investigation is being carried out and this fact was remembered, but did this, this news, this journalistic investigation lead to to the fact that guilt or guilt was actually proven there in the courts, this is another question that is in

a long and distant box, unfortunately, well, obviously the current government uses them, which you don't have to answer all the questions, that is, there are... some corruption scandals, thank god that we have investigators, thank god that we have schemes, thank god that we have public, thank god that we have bigus-info, tetyana nikolaenko and yurii nikolov, people who work thoroughly enough with investigations. marina, how and why in ukraine with such a number of anti-corruption bodies do they exist, first of all there is corruption, to which there are complaints. and why does it exist? because the fish rots from the head, and see if the director of nabu thinks that it is not necessary for him to go and comment on high-profile stories, high-profile journalistic investigations, at the specialized anti-corruption committee, this is a sign of unhealthy

processes in the state, because i will remind you that in the last convocation of the anti-corruption committee, it was one of the most visited committees, there were always events there, something was always being sorted out, there were always some meetings, and so society, the public, journalists could get some prompt answers to sensitive questions, and now we see, for example, in the investigation denys bigus, when he meets with this comrade heorhiy berkadze, and heorhiy berkadze starts, and you and i'm writing there and that guy, that's what he says to the investigative journalist. with a name, with a reputation, and whether a word is very important for public opinion, i think this is not quite adequate. when the story comes out that our potential minister of infrastructure, the man who literally fills all the holes when you need

to fill a vacancy somewhere in the government, ah, was involved in probably corruption stories, but because of the agreement with naboo, she was not searched . well this is probably not a very healthy signal for our western partners, who will give money and control the reconstruction of ukraine precisely through the ministry of infrastructure. it is obvious that they will not just give money like that without control, because, for example, more and more their society, their citizens internally ask: why are we forced to endure, for example, another increase in taxes, and i would not mind helping ukraine. but it is important for me to know that my money really goes to the reconstruction of ukraine, to the ukrainian army, but not, sorry, to a brand new chanel handbag, which appears in some 1,500th girl there, the deputy attorney general, this, by the way, is very confusing to our western

partners, and when there are intergovernmental meetings, when there are meetings with the public, these are all handbags, love for brands, cars, it is thrown into the eyes of our western friends, and it confuses them that a warring country turns out to be fattening here as on the last day of the plague. well, obviously, the weakness of law enforcement, anti-corruption... the political influence on that is being replaced by what we saw yesterday in dnipro performed by mykola tyshchenko, that is, when the law enforcement agencies do not work, when the prosecutorial system does not work, then mykola tyshchenko comes out surrounded by guards and begins to beat the former fighter of the krakin battalion, dmytro pavlov with the call sign son, and this is how it was, let's see, because this... such a revealing story and yet another scandal of mykola tyshchenko. please accept the application.

he is on military registration. we have information. i am on military registration. we work within the framework of the mission. we have a resource. and what are you doing with a weapon? now we beg you, please accept the statement, the person does not appear on the military register, inflates the documents, please do not remove the documents, well, this is the performance of the bully bodyguards

of mykola tyshchenko, the godfather of the head of the office of the president of ukraine andriy yermak and his explanation about that they are fighting with some call centers there, someone is doing some kind of coup d'état, well, that is, some typical delusion, well, as of tonight, i did not see any reaction of the law enforcement system of ukraine. what, what, what actually, what is the reaction, i.e., why does mykola tyshchenko take over the powers that no one gave him, and secondly, what call centers do they catch, catch, well, it's just a hop-stop. kateryna, in this story, when law enforcement agencies are inactive or deliberately try not to react to it. what, what exactly am i, how will it affect society and what can be the reaction of the society of which i am a part of... precisely the vets of the russian-ukrainian war, which actually we have seen even now, when the man

who fought in the kraken , liberated kharkiv oblast, was forced to come into contact with these people. well, let's face it, i wasn't there, just like we weren't there, we saw the video footage, and that's why i don't want to immediately hang labels on who is guilty, who is not guilty, and here, by the way, it's interesting about the issue of communication, mykola tychenko, he already started commenting on oleksiy goncharenko right away, in principle, there in the council at the tv station. he was included on the air, but how he communicates, i will allow myself to express myself in such a bold way, and because journalists ask there, for example, a question of a female journalist and she wants to receive this answer, and why does the people's deputy do what he does on the streets of dnipro, and what kind of security is this, or is it security, he did not give direct answers to these questions, so i really really want an investigation and an explanation of this video, so that this video is terrifying, well, you and i understand what people say and what we ourselves think there. being there when ukraine is in a state of war, well, first of all, there is danger, and we already see such examples of weapons there, maybe

some insolent behavior, many people in military uniform, you sometimes someone already just tells a real story, that someone is afraid, and someone is there something else, here we saw a stroller, a child, it is not clear who is approaching whom, because , for example, there is a policeman, who was a policeman, it is not very clear that he is a policeman , and there may also be legal issues, i don’t know if the case will go to court there, in fact, whether the person who was stopped there by a military ex-military from krakin, whether he understood that it was the police at all, or whether it was just some young men who these people in military uniform around mykola tyshchenko, or is it really his bodyguard, if so, why is she in a military uniform, there are a lot of questions, it all doesn't look very civilized, to put it mildly, and it's really scary, because even a small child here didn't bother anyone at all in this situation, what did you... it was necessary to take such measures, how dangerous this person was, that it was necessary to break him there and tear the cart out of his hands,

well, i mean, i actually have a lot of such questions after watching this video, and that's why i really want , so that some analysis is appropriate, i don't know this situation and the analysis is actually with specific answers, and not with mutual accusations, because mykola tyshchenko, he just starts accusing that this is a military man, and why is he already an ex-military man? he has some kind of personal situation there, that because his mother is disabled, he is not serving there now, well, that is, mr. mp is starting to accuse the former soldier of the fact that he is not at the front now, although legally... er, for sure there is a justification for this, so there are a lot of questions, and a lot of no i want ukrainian streets, especially in cities that suffer so much from russian attacks like dnipro, to have a situation where citizens will be afraid to go out, they will be afraid of people in military uniform, which is not normal, and in our situation, when the military are the first

to protect the ukrainians there from russian aggression, and here i am looking at mr. zhorin's post there with the third assault unit, he says about that, well, he spoke about the uniformed military that it is enough to wear a military uniform, because really it is not clear how much justification there is for those people around tyshchenko to wear this military uniform, i don't know how much justification there is or not, but such questions arise, so i would like the deputy to answer this openly, and indeed, so that the investigation would somehow react to the police, she told in detail what happened there, whether the man who seemed to be a policeman really was, and if so, why he didn't look like one. properly. thank you, kateryna, marina, is mykola tyshchenko's behavior like this, let's say yes, er, illegitimate, i would say so, let's speak in such a language, that is , in general, which goes beyond the limits of his powers, is it part of the practice of the current government in general, when the head of

the president's office, his best man, he also goes beyond the limits of this authority and does something. something that actually he should not do, and since there can be such a thing at the bank, then accordingly, those who are close to them behave in the same way. well, i watched almost all the videos that were on this topic to evaluate everything from different angles. so, look at what immediately jumps out, of course, mykola tyshchenko is a very elite best man, in a very good position, in addition to the fact that... he is the best man of andriy yermak, he still has a very high position among the servants of the people, it is worth remembering this an old interview of andriy bohdan, where he told gordon that mykola tyshchenko had such strong positions that he almost had no influence on general politics there, and volodymyr zelenskyi bankova listened to

his position, well, that is the level, why kolya tyshchenko can afford to do everything, the second i really don't like that the place is dnipro, we all understand that dnipro is a military city, now russian propaganda, russian special services have thrown a lot of effort to discredit the armed forces in this very place, where there is a huge number of soldiers, where there is a military hospital , where there are a number of military units, this is a strategic front-line city, and you know, against the background of these stories, when the russians specially hire teenagers to set fire to cars for... we see a disgusting situation with a people's deputy, when the people's a deputy with a group of incomprehensible healthy men, by the way, why are these men not mobilized in our country, why are they roaming around the city and attacking veterans who are walking with a baby at this time, the third point, i really do not like the rhetoric of the people's

deputy who says: oh, i'm sorry, who knows what kind of soldier this is, and it's unclear how he got fired. look, while this gentleman, son, yes, with a winter sim, was liberating kharkiv oblast, our politician was resting in thailand and told in all seriousness that he was meeting with ukrainian voters, so you know, here a priori you will be on the side of a real veteran who was in the kraken unit, and knowing what the kraken unit is, it is actually a special unit of suicide bombers, they really perform such complex functions. frontline, so sometimes tyshchenko tells a veteran who to serve, to demobilize, and he says: oh, his mother is sick, yes, if his mother is sick, a person can demobilize on completely legal grounds, i don’t see any complaints, and let’s be honest , this young man, he was walking in his place with her child, who was just born, that is why a person deliberately chose to live in his

native place, then such a moment, these people are incomprehensible, the position of the national police is incomprehensible, because until now i have not seen any conscious statement that what happened there in the dnipro of any official the positions of the security forces, and one more moment, on one video, there is a young girl, as far as i understand, mykola tyshchenko’s pr assistant, filming the video, you know, i myself worked for a long time in political pr, and if my boss did otaku is a disgrace to the public... with the military, i would twist him myself, i would close his mouth and we would leave this public place, and there people deliberately came into contact, but by the way, it is very unpleasant already... biographies are not they all were found, it turns out that this mademoiselle is also a figure of a peacemaker in our country, who used to glorify the russian federation and the occupation of part

of the territory of ukraine, well, that is, if there are no pitfalls, the campaign in kol tyshchenko is just perfect, and to be honest, i understand that these are the difficulties of ukrainian democracy , who chose kolya from us tyshchenka, voters of the capital district, voters who were attracted to the green brand, so you have to draw conclusions and not vote. more such people's deputies so that it would not be so embarrassing. thank you marina. i will add very briefly, because i see that here on the air , ms. bezugla has not yet listened to this conversation, on svoboda live, she said that yermak had already blocked tyshchenko in all messengers a long time ago and that tyshchenko is a typical rascal. i haven't listened to this conversation in its entirety yet, but it's very interesting, because maybe you told serhiy that he was on duty there zashkvar, maybe there will already be some kind of point put there publicly, if there are already deputies, colleagues from the people's servants telling such things, such details. zugla, as yarmak's spokeswoman, says this, then you can believe it. and kraken, by the way, published a statement and confirmed that their former fighter was attacked in the dnipro, what

the gur special forces say. in view of the public publicity of the incident, we inform you that the man in civilian clothes, who was injured as a result of the clash, is a former soldier of the special forces kraken. we do not interfere in the course of the investigation, but we carefully monitor its course, consequences , etc. incidents, there must be real justice, and about one more justice, very briefly, in just a few words we will talk with you, colleagues, military correspondent anna kalyuzhna reported on threats from the third assault brigade commander dmytro kukharchuk and his subordinates. the conflict arose because of a post-journalist in which she criticized politicians and their media friends from the third separate assault brigade, commented on the exit ukrainian troops from avdiivka. all the key people. who exactly threatened have been identified and all this data will be handed over to the law enforcement officers, because this is a crime, and in response to the accusations, combatant dmytro kukharchuk published

a post on facebook with a list of journalists with whom it is not advisable to do business, in the first place he indicated kalyuzhna, he also included in list maria malaevska, serhiy kostezh, anastasia fetchenko, iryna baglai, diana butsko and nadia blomkvist. but how to generally perceive what is happening and where is this limit when journalists can talk about something or write during the war and when they cannot do this, well , for us as viewers of this story, because again we are not participants there, i am not a military journalist in any way, ukrainian military journalists are a separate topic, they are a separate such field, a separate profession, and so with a cold head, and in fact it is very very ... very, very, very big dangers, basically in these facebook fights in all that are happening, and as we speak and about the work of military journalists who are under stress, and about

of the military, who are also in a completely different reality than us civilians there in the body in the cities, which are not so close to the front, so here is the lady journalist , the lady, she files there, she wrote a statement to the police, and of course that to this statement , i would like the law enforcement authorities... not to react properly there, whether there was this situation and this conflict, well, it arose there from the comments on facebook, was it somehow possible to make the communication so closed, maybe there is not on facebook, it is possible to call, talk, all the subtleties to clarify some, this is another issue, so i want an investigation and of course i don’t want such unfortunate conflicts, thank you marina, of course in this situation it is difficult to judge one side, the other side, but well, we see a conflict... media workers and a combatant, and he names there and with whom he would not like to do business, this is also ultimately a matter of kombat, he is not not he is fighting, he is not not not

in contact with journalists, although it is clear that journalists are also doing their job, how can we judge in this situation , who in this situation is right, who is wrong, or everyone has just to cool down and just talk calmly somehow. look, there is such a sensitive moment here, i know anna kalyuzhna very well, yes , by the way, she used to work for us on the espresso channel, and she is a talented journalist, and i also know dmytro kukharchuk, as a person for whom ukraine is absolutely indifferent, and this is a man who grew up in the military since the revolution of dignity, and very clearly stood his ground for all these 10 years and... when the full-scale invasion began, this man went to serve, showed himself to be a very good soldier, and you know, to me not i really like that some kind of interpersonal

confrontations are pouring out. in ugly posts on facebook, then it snowballs and ends with the fact that we are essentially fueling these unhealthy movements, which are only for the joy of russian propaganda and real russian ipso, because look, the armed forces of ukraine are such an institution that has the highest rating, it is an institution that unites people and provides opportunities, if we speak. about the third assault brigade, they are well done, they put their image in such a way, we have literally 30 seconds on the air, and i would i don't want to, i would like kalyuzhna to call the cook first and they would solve these issues between themselves, because honestly, i don't have anyone here, i'm not for anyone, i just really dislike this situation, and you know, if you sometimes get tired as a war correspondent, i strongly advise those people to step away from this profession for a while, because

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